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Remember The Poor
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Posted by badanov 2013-11-10 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [949 views ]  Top

#1 Increasingly in modern society we do not see the poor in our daily lives.

Quite true. In the check-out lanes, they appear to be as well fed or better fed as the rest of us, and few pull away from the car parks in second hand F-150's.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-11-10 01:07||   2013-11-10 01:07|| Front Page Top

#2 And in the New Testament, Jesus said to sell what you have and give it to the poor. He did NOT say to take stuff from someone else and give it to the poor, which is what the government does.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-11-10 01:19||   2013-11-10 01:19|| Front Page Top

#3 True that Rambler. It is a call to the individual. Now the middle men become the insulation as an easy way to abdicate responsibility into others hands using others money. That is a purposeless inquisition other than to make more middle men.

Those middle men are taking half of all that is the Bounty right now alone, your 10% of tithe becomes 90% of your budget.

Resentment becomes natural by both.

I Pity the FOO that equates government with compassion.

Fix the world yourselves, starve the government, and get on with your lives.
Posted by newc 2013-11-10 02:52||   2013-11-10 02:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Remember The Poor

Cause you sure be joining them soon.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-11-10 02:58||   2013-11-10 02:58|| Front Page Top

#5 There have been poor, there are poor, there will always be poor. Free will means that there will be those who choose the self destructive behaviors observed for centuries as the seven deadly sins. You can't 'save' someone who chooses not to be saved. That's why the redistributionists don't waste their time about demanding change upon the poor. They just steal from others to assuage their own guilt.

Matthew 20:15
15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-11-10 08:54||   2013-11-10 08:54|| Front Page Top

#6 2 Thessalonians 3:10 (New International Version)
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2 Thessalonians 3:10

New International Version (NIV)

10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
Posted by BrerRabbit 2013-11-10 10:54||   2013-11-10 10:54|| Front Page Top

#7 So the last shall be first, and the first last.

Who is John Galt?
Posted by KBK 2013-11-10 10:56||   2013-11-10 10:56|| Front Page Top

#8 Jesus said, "The poor we will always have with us."

He didn't say anything about the DemoncRats gummint stealing from the rest of us to buy "the poor's" vote.
Posted by Barbara 2013-11-10 12:07||   2013-11-10 12:07|| Front Page Top

#9 I think rabbi's point was for those who are better off should have an increased spiritual regard for the poor, rather than separating resources from those who do to those who don't.
Posted by badanov 2013-11-10 12:11||  2013-11-10 12:11|| Front Page Top

#10 - John Galt (2 May 1779 – 11 April 1839) was a Scottish novelist, entrepreneur, and political and social commentator. Because he was the first novelist to deal with issues of the Industrial Revolution, he has been called the first political novelist in the English language.

Handsome Chap, say what?

Posted by Clomotch Tholuger 2013-11-10 12:32||   2013-11-10 12:32|| Front Page Top

#11 In the US poverty statistics are calculated BEFORE taking into account any aid. So, before welfare, medicaid, food stamps, etc. Given that we define the poverty level for a family of 4 at $36k/yr and that same family is eligible, on average, for $38.5k/yr in freebies I think it's fair to say that we have for all practical purposes already eliminated poverty in the US.
Posted by Iblis 2013-11-10 13:07||   2013-11-10 13:07|| Front Page Top

#12 Obamacare will restore that poverty for the middle class who won't get subsidies
Posted by Frank G 2013-11-10 13:27||   2013-11-10 13:27|| Front Page Top

#13 In the US poverty statistics are calculated BEFORE taking into account any aid.

The US Census came out with a second set of results based on people receiving federal and state aid. Poverty numbers jumped in many of the the 'blue' states.

I think rabbi's point was for those who are better off should have an increased spiritual regard for the poor, rather than separating resources from those who do to those who don't.

Also mentioned was the injunction against the tendency to "shut one's hand." Then there's the line about "we who have more gifts must show more gratitude."

More appropriate is this comment:

Sadly we know about the poverty half a world away and not next door. From this stance it's easier to pay taxes or deductible dues and expect the government or synagogue take care if it. We do not take care of issues of poverty directly and silently so even the receiver knows not the giver.

Posted by Pappy 2013-11-10 14:09||   2013-11-10 14:09|| Front Page Top

#14 Main poverty in the west is cultural poverty.

Need culture change, not hand-outs that support failed cultural standards.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-11-10 16:27||   2013-11-10 16:27|| Front Page Top

#15 When you define 'poverty' as the bottom 15% or so, then you can not eliminate poverty - there will always be a bottom 15%.
Posted by Glenmore 2013-11-10 16:57||   2013-11-10 16:57|| Front Page Top

#16 So that's who it is, why are people always asking about him?

Thank you Clomotch Tholuger for this timely information.
Posted by Shipman 2013-11-10 17:09||   2013-11-10 17:09|| Front Page Top

#17 What bible verses mention Obama phones, SNAP EBT, Section 8 Housing, farm subsidies for people who do not raise or grow anything, crony capitalism....?

My biggest expense (3 times larger than the next largest) is my total taxes paid: federal, FICA, state, property, sales, utility and fees (that I explicitly know about)
Posted by Airandee 2013-11-10 19:02||   2013-11-10 19:02|| Front Page Top

#18 As I've often said, Americans who bitch about poverty in America should go to a country like India - where you see real poverty.

I often joke that in America, the "poor" complain that they can only get 200 channels on their cable. In India, people live in corrugated metal shacks next to an open sewer. And India is by no means the poorest country.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-11-10 21:42||   2013-11-10 21:42|| Front Page Top

#19 #17 What bible verses mention...

Most likely falls under -

Exodus 20:17
King James Version (KJV)

17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-11-10 22:49||   2013-11-10 22:49|| Front Page Top

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