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2016-05-05 Europe
Switzerland Proposes Barbed Wire Fence Along Italian Border
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Posted by Besoeker 2016-05-05 02:13|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6478 views ]  Top

#1 Barbed wire may work for cattle, but people have wire cutters. For effective people fences you need things like minefields and machine guns (a few people got through the Iron Curtain, but it was pretty effective.)
Posted by Glenmore 2016-05-05 08:41||   2016-05-05 08:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Useful in channeling people into corridors. Easier to plug a hole with a finger than cover an entire breach with the same.
Posted by Procopius2k 2016-05-05 09:52||   2016-05-05 09:52|| Front Page Top

#3 The immigrants would just throw their women and children on the wire and walk across the border on their backs.
I vote for an armed presence.
Posted by jvalentour 2016-05-05 12:39||   2016-05-05 12:39|| Front Page Top

#4 From 1990-1995, I was the Counterdrug Coordinator and then Task Force Commander for the Cal Guard supporting Counterdrug Operations throughout the state. When we were in discussions with the US Border Patrol in 1992 about the initial construction of the border fence in San Diego and eventually parts of Imperial County, we discussed a number of options to improve Border Enforcement for drug smuggling interdiction operations. Coincidental to that obviously was the impact on illegal immigration. Physical barriers like a wall, wire and anti-vehicle obstacles, as well as improved road network, all were planned to channelize the pedestrian and vehicle incursions into engagement areas to allow the USBP to concentrate resources and increase effectiveness.
In the end we transformed dramatically the nature of the 13 mile San Diego Sector, driving the vast majority of trafficking eastward into the Smith Valley and beyond.
I pains me no end to see the silly canard that a wall cannot stop immigration because people can climb over it, the implication being that a fix must be 100% or it is worthless. Its all about enhanced enforcement percentages at the border, to allow the interior enforcement options to handle the overflow, and not be overwhelmed with primary apprehensions above their manning levels.
Build a wall, enhance the use of E-Verify, link Social Security filings to enforcement by CBP, detail locals to handle the backlog of deportation cases, prosecute those who employ illegals knowingly, rid the public welfare and Medicaid roles of illegals (50% of whom are on some form of public assistance according to the most recent FAIR reporting), control remittances to Mexico and beyond, and a huge number will self-deport home, and the flow will stop when they see no advantage to overcoming the obstacles to coming here. (sorry for the long rant)
Posted by NoMoreBS 2016-05-05 12:55||   2016-05-05 12:55|| Front Page Top

#5 That rant is the other reason I love Rantburg, NoMoreBS: meaty comments by people who know whereof they speak. I'm going to save that for future reference.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-05-05 15:11||   2016-05-05 15:11|| Front Page Top

#6 #4 is spot on. I've lived in San Diego/Chula Vista and now East County all my life. The wall works.
Posted by Frank G 2016-05-05 21:20||   2016-05-05 21:20|| Front Page Top

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