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2016-07-23 Europe
Munich shooting update -- Saturday am
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Posted by Steve White 2016-07-23 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1200 views ]  Top

#1 In Munich?
Posted by Fred 2016-07-23 00:28||   2016-07-23 00:28|| Front Page Top

#2 In Germany? During cold or rainy weather, anyone with small children, who then can play while the mothers chat nearby. On a nice day ditto, because the children have developed a taste for it. And anytime, people who want inexpensive, trustworthy food quickly served and quickly eaten.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-07-23 00:46||   2016-07-23 00:46|| Front Page Top

#3 UG that is a bit rough - expect that kind of thing from the El33t5.
Posted by Bov Flimbers 2016-07-23 01:06||   2016-07-23 01:06|| Front Page Top

#4 The coverup begins?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-07-23 01:06||   2016-07-23 01:06|| Front Page Top

#5 No name so far, which would indicate if he's a shiia or not.
Posted by phil_b 2016-07-23 01:12||   2016-07-23 01:12|| Front Page Top

#6 Timing, place, and opportunity.

I was wrong about an attack, but that was a good "Training Exercise". And those Officers killed none.

I always knew the Polizei were at the top of their game first hand.

They wanted to know who we were and drew down as fast as they could stop the car.

The Germans were a very Gracious Country for US. Many Americans settled right there with beautiful Wives. It is such a Beautiful Nation.

So I get touchy about keeping them Squared Away from now on. Don't force the Hun's hand if you don't have to. So sayeth the Second World War.

The Media disconnect, the Police lack of timing, Were those Our LEO with "Long Rifles" - what time was that call out?.

The suicide report, the metro shooter report, the three location report, the 11 dead report,Alluah Akbar report, the videos? Same event in one place?

That check was my fault I guess.
Posted by newc 2016-07-23 01:18||   2016-07-23 01:18|| Front Page Top

#7 A note worth consideration is not only the fact that this was the epicenter of the 1972 Olympic massacre.

It marks a date. An "Anniversary"

Who eats at McDonalds? Everyone. Everyone. They are very consistent.

Who Else? Americans. Specifically Americans Anniversary at the Olympics.

The Messenger promptly shoots himself in the head as his mission as a SIGINT event, or not.

What say you Holmes?
Posted by newc 2016-07-23 01:32||   2016-07-23 01:32|| Front Page Top

#8 For that was his only purpose for Allah, or Stalan, Or Hezbollah or whatever.

Just a mental case.
Posted by newc 2016-07-23 01:34||   2016-07-23 01:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Who eats at Pizza Hut in Lebanon?

Who tosses an hand grenade outside of the Hotel housing Ambassador Stevens? And on 9/11 for such matter?

Someone on this board - in the Berg stated to essence

"They keep trying to tell US who they are, and We spend so much time denying it is them, I am beginning to wonder if they will intensify them"

Someone please tell me who was that masked man?
Posted by newc 2016-07-23 01:48||   2016-07-23 01:48|| Front Page Top

#10 Who Else? Americans. Specifically Americans Anniversary at the Olympics.

Newc, when we lived in Germany, it was the German mothers in our playgroup who insisted on meeting at McDonalds. The Americans were appalled by the idea, wanting to experience the real Germany, and in general having bigger apartments or even houses with gardens which had room for a group of small children to play.

Ditto when road tripping across Europe, my Czech au pair girl would insist on stopping along the way only at McDonalds for pit stops and quick meals, which drove the American soldiers she was travelling with bonkers. But she had been a professional tour guide, and explained that only McDonalds was consistently cheap, clean, trustworthy, and quick -- all important when heading toward the next adventure.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-07-23 03:34||   2016-07-23 03:34|| Front Page Top

#11 Who temporals the place when you do not have time to sort through the experience. I went to McDonalds in Frankfurt and had a familiar cheeseburger with Ein Beer on the second floor, it was special. See, we only had wolfburger or burger king. Taco bell was also greatly missed.

Posted by newc 2016-07-23 04:10||   2016-07-23 04:10|| Front Page Top

#12 Terrorists are counting on the American longing for a 'familiar cheeseburger.'

Make the terrorist task a bit more difficult. Lose the American flag T-shirt and don't frequent western chain eateries. Just basic survival steps.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-07-23 04:18||   2016-07-23 04:18|| Front Page Top

#13 Not ISIS, not AQ, confirmed he was Shia.
Posted by Unelet Protector of the Sith2424 2016-07-23 05:54||   2016-07-23 05:54|| Front Page Top

#14 Thanks.

I'm wondering if he was radicalized on a trip to Iran.
Posted by phil_b 2016-07-23 06:11||   2016-07-23 06:11|| Front Page Top

#15 McDonalds is always full in Munich. Many young people, many tourists.

The killer seems to have no Islamist background.

He had 300 rounds of ammunition in his backback.

German press doesn't give his full name - we are so considerate - but the Swiss press does: Ali (or David) Sonboly.
Posted by European Conservative 2016-07-23 07:10||   2016-07-23 07:10|| Front Page Top

#16 verbal diarrhea?
Posted by European Conservative 2016-07-23 07:55||   2016-07-23 07:55|| Front Page Top

#17 Hemingway.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-07-23 08:03||   2016-07-23 08:03|| Front Page Top

#18 Briefly awake. Will properly update later when I'm properly awake, but in the meantime Deutsche Welle is liveblogging the story today. Chancellor Merkel should speak about it shortly, if I have the time difference correct.

Vielen Dank, European Conservative. Glad it's over.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-07-23 08:23||   2016-07-23 08:23|| Front Page Top

#19 Dunno G(r)om could be mind-controll guy.
Posted by Shipman 2016-07-23 08:59||   2016-07-23 08:59|| Front Page Top

Hemingway deleted

Posted by Steve White 2016-07-23 09:40||   2016-07-23 09:40|| Front Page Top

#21 The cost of Facebook "free stuff" writ large. So sad.

Taco Bueno routinely offers some great deals on Facebook. Until last week, I hadn't been to a Taco Bueno since my first wife to have a half price Hatch chile taco (actually I had three). They even offered fresh green chile salsa, which I love.
Posted by badanov 2016-07-23 09:48||  2016-07-23 09:48|| Front Page Top

#22 Again, something of a sophisticated operation with a patsy left behind for cover.
Posted by Skidmark 2016-07-23 10:16||   2016-07-23 10:16|| Front Page Top

#23 Still a classic: "A Mosque in Munich: Nazis, the CIA and the Rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in the West", by Ian Johnson, 2010.
Posted by Whavise Wheque2596 2016-07-23 10:21||   2016-07-23 10:21|| Front Page Top

#24 The Merkel government will cover up the details much as Obama tried to cover up and sweep under the rug the Fort Hood shooting.
In Germany, there is a great deal more government censorship than in the rest of the West.
Posted by jvalentour 2016-07-23 10:35||   2016-07-23 10:35|| Front Page Top

#25 Who in the hell eats at fucking Mc Donald's?

I guess swimming in yer underwear (in a canal, no less) gives you moral superiority.
Posted by Pappy 2016-07-23 10:36||   2016-07-23 10:36|| Front Page Top

#26 Sorry G(r)om you called it.
Posted by Shipman 2016-07-23 12:39||   2016-07-23 12:39|| Front Page Top

#27 Incidentally, re McDonalds, I did a bit driving around US south west. One of the important lessons I've learned: in places that only have McDonalds and one local Mom & Pops: it's better to eat at McDonalds.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-07-23 14:25||   2016-07-23 14:25|| Front Page Top

#28 And I call it again.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-07-23 15:31||   2016-07-23 15:31|| Front Page Top

#29 McDonalds: when traveling. Cheap, consistent, excellent wifi, clean restroom, fast service, convenient to interstate, tasty fries. McChicken, small fries, milk $3. and back on the road.
Posted by KBK 2016-07-23 16:17||   2016-07-23 16:17|| Front Page Top

#30 Police Chief Andrae also told a news conference that the crime and the perpetrator had "absolutely no" link to the issue of refugees.

Except he was a 2nd generation refugee immigrant.

Illustrating how ghettoized non-assimilated immigrants are a problem for generations.
Posted by phil_b 2016-07-23 16:42||   2016-07-23 16:42|| Front Page Top

#31 McD's has decent coffee, too. Everywhere you go.

Not a St*rb*ck's fan, so the Golden Arches at the airport is always a stop before an AM flight.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2016-07-23 16:52||   2016-07-23 16:52|| Front Page Top

#32 No Islamist background, but seems to have been a typical loser fascinated by Breivik and the "hero" of the Winnenden massacre. Police has found revealing material in the apartment of his parents.

The other two guys never existed.
Posted by European Conservative 2016-07-23 17:43||   2016-07-23 17:43|| Front Page Top

#33 Daily Mail had the names of the dead. They were mostly Kosovars and Turks. Jibes with the theory of revenge for his fellow Muslims bullying him. A Sunni vs. Shiite thing?
Posted by Cravirt Flusong7056 2016-07-23 18:12||   2016-07-23 18:12|| Front Page Top

#34 My biggest problem with McDonald's is that they are now an openly 'progressive' company. Who wants to support that?

Now in Germany the reason you go is free bathrooms and wifi. In France they use local cheese and the result can be quite good. In China, well, it's probably the safest option.
Posted by Iblis 2016-07-23 18:34||   2016-07-23 18:34|| Front Page Top

#35 A Sunni vs. Shiite thing?

That was my thought as well. His ghetto school would have been overwhelmingly non-German and shiites would have been a small minority.
Posted by phil_b 2016-07-23 22:24||   2016-07-23 22:24|| Front Page Top

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