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2017-07-09 Government
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Posted by Besoeker 2017-07-09 02:54|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [771 views ]  Top

#1 But can someone please remind me what due-process is all about?
Posted by DooDahMan 2017-07-09 08:59||   2017-07-09 08:59|| Front Page Top

#2 Due process doesn't apply to captured enemy. See Geneva Conventions -- there are quite a few of them. Insurgents aren't "arrested" to be taken to court. They are "captured" to be interned until the war's over. While they're being insurgents and internees, they're also subject to the laws of the country they're being insurgents in.
that means they're liable for crimes of robbery, rape, torture, and that sort of thing. I'm not an international lawyer, but I think there are also laws of reciprocity: if they dont adhere to conventions the other side's bound only by its own laws.

Thank you fer yer interest.
Posted by Fred 2017-07-09 09:20||   2017-07-09 09:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Un-uniformed enemy combatants operate outside the protections afforded by the Geneva Convention - they do not offer any protections and do not deserve any. They do not belong to a nation state and most terrorists do not even fall within the definition of insurgent (rebel).

They are lucky to have the due process given to them by the military commissions.
Posted by Tennessee 2017-07-09 10:26||   2017-07-09 10:26|| Front Page Top

#4 In fact by extending GV protections to them we endanger our own men.
They (the enemy) have no reason to treat our people humanely and any future legal combatant (read: China, North Korea) would have no compulsion to do so either and would subject our people to ill-treatment, [real] torture, executions, etc...
That is why we need to enforce both sides: Extend protections to legal combatants and *not* extend any protections to illegal combatants.
Posted by CrazyFool 2017-07-09 10:43||   2017-07-09 10:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Due process for a pirate is still on the books for a lot of countries. It is immediate execution when caught doing or attempting piracy. Now consider a Jihadi.
Posted by Ulains Thuque6389 2017-07-09 11:23||   2017-07-09 11:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Low occupancy rates are bigly bad, overhead becomes a killer.
Posted by Shipman  2017-07-09 14:36||   2017-07-09 14:36|| Front Page Top

#7 People complained because we are holding these people without trial. Yet they complain every time the government tries to go ahead with court martials. So, yeah, these prisoners are being held indefinitely. Who's fault is that?

And, if we ever did get to go ahead with the court martials, and the prisoners were given the death penalty they deserve, ...
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2017-07-09 15:50||   2017-07-09 15:50|| Front Page Top

#8 Like Hasan Nidal in 2013
Posted by Frank G 2017-07-09 16:42||   2017-07-09 16:42|| Front Page Top

#9 There are some antifa financers and leaders that commit treason against the US that could go there.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2017-07-09 16:44||   2017-07-09 16:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Unfortunately, SCOTUS Kennedy decided to overturn Yamashita vs Steyr and extend 'due process' to war criminals rather than continue the precedent of the older military tribunals.
Posted by Procopius2k 2017-07-09 20:39||   2017-07-09 20:39|| Front Page Top

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