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2019-07-04 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Judge ruled teen should get leniency in rape case because he "comes from a good family"
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Posted by Besoeker 2019-07-04 06:56|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [10801 views ]  Top

#1 There is much that is wrong with this report, of course from CBS...............

A teen age mixed gender pajama party? A drunk teenage girl? Two or more males? Was the girl not from a "good" family?
Posted by AlanC 2019-07-04 07:38||   2019-07-04 07:38|| Front Page Top

#2 None of those things actually matter. The girl shouldn't have been raped, regardless of how stupid she was being. If the boy didn't rape her, then the defense should handle that. But the Judge shouldn't show leniency because of some family ties or because he goes to a nice school.
Posted by Vernal Hatrick 2019-07-04 07:55||   2019-07-04 07:55|| Front Page Top

#3 ...this is how you get vendetta. If you are unwilling to give justice, get another job.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-07-04 08:50||   2019-07-04 08:50|| Front Page Top

#4 New Jersey, huh? I guessed Pakistain.

Do you ever get the feeling everything is spinning out of control?
Posted by SteveS 2019-07-04 10:16||   2019-07-04 10:16|| Front Page Top

#5 I'll say it again. Judiciaries need to be replaced with AI. Interpretation of legal provisions to affix responsibilities resulting from delineation of powers, providing justice to wronged parties based on simple rules, arbitrating on matters of dispute, referring to precedents and theories of jurisprudence, deriving proper parallels to a case - everything can be handled within reasonable expectations by a bloody microprocessor. The job is made so bounded by the hundreds of parameters that have been amended and re-legislated over the years, that it would be darn difficult for a system to make an error or over reach, as people worry.

politiciansDemocracy will also benefit as the legislature and electorates will not have to care for appeasing whimsical and petty personalities or partisan and mercenary judges anymore. They should introduce a bill to invest in research for AI that can be gradated empirically from "assisting judges in making impartial decisions" to overtly eliminating the need for a robed, un-elected arbiter completely.

Rather than waste money and intellect on tech and programming for human-like locomotion, targeting, recognition, profiling Of course , some administrative tasks not only necessitate that humans perform them, but are also necessary for citizens to be involved in , if they are to be worthy partakers of a State); governments should encourage research along the lines of assisted and autonomous arbitration of cases by AI.

In 2017 I made a proposal for this, with research worth three years of work by some of the best analysts, programmers, judges. Of course, my own government does not value justice or tech over status quo. I should sell the fucking thing to China and retire to Vietnam or something. But developed nations and their progressive governments, with better infrastructure and know-how can be convinced to undertake such a project.

The problem of arbitrary interpretation by fallible humans and whimsical, seemingly unjust application of the same laws to different cases with different outcomes is the one thing that has led to the majority of this world's populations' frustration with human government altogether. It is a justified angst but manifests in reactionary and stupid socialist, anarchist rebellion.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-07-04 12:06||   2019-07-04 12:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Indian fruit hangs lower than American in this situation, Dron66046. Here the major cyber companies lean strongly to the smug totalitarian left, no matter the libertarian, conservative or even apolitical attitude of some of the individual programmers employed therein; what odds we would be happy with their AI’s approach to judgement?
Posted by trailing wife 2019-07-04 14:09||   2019-07-04 14:09|| Front Page Top

#7 The 'algorithm suasion' question. Yes, the administrations that be may influence the outcome by persuasive, 'inclined' directives within the algorithms, but in the interest of transparency the algorithms themselves could be openly shared. And it would be a system to evolve, first runs could be only for assisting existing judges with parking violation, or even shoplifting or slander. It would be an evolving system, the leash getting slacker as people see it work. If it delivers injustice why, it would be evident from the get go and be shut down. Testing is paramount for such a thing of course.

Research should at least be initiated along the lines of eliminating fallible human control from matters already settled in the constitution. A ra¶e is a ra¶e. The girl was assaulted ? Yes. Did she want it ? No. Was she at the party willingly...What kind of future lies ahead for the boy...How much his mammy loves his angelic face...Is the girl a habitual s1ut ? The computer doesn't care. Ra¶e ? 20 years. Intimidation and confinement ? Add 6 years. He filmed it ? Add a p0rn0graphy (making) charge. 4 more years (or whatever it is there). All evidence in such cases and testimony is taken at face value anyway, unless of a markedly suspect nature. The system would have rated standards for reliability and wouldn't dawdle over legalistic 'maybes' , but deliver verdict only from the filtered incontrovertible data.

Then again, the subtil tendencies in most decentralized bureaucratic administrations that will involve themselves in the contracting of coders and analysts for such a system may still get the better of it in ways I cannot know. As I said, I'm a dunce.☺ It took me months to even learn what an algorithm is.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-07-04 15:28||   2019-07-04 15:28|| Front Page Top

#8 Sorry for the ascii letters, I was trying to let the Fred's p☼rn/spam/invective filter let the words through.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-07-04 15:30||   2019-07-04 15:30|| Front Page Top

#9 The filters do pose a bit of a challenge. Some of us do basic L33t substitutions, alternate spellings, or strategic asterisks to get around them. But my dear, if you’re presenting possible users with a well-researched proposal, you’re not exactly a novice. Whether you are a dunce is a different question, one that runs up the z-axis piercing the plane. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2019-07-04 19:48||   2019-07-04 19:48|| Front Page Top

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