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2019-11-10 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Former Israeli Intel Official Claims Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell Worked for Israel
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Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-10 12:23|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [414 views ]  Top

#1 Should've looked up wiki article on Ben-Menashe before posting, Besoeker.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-10 13:08||   2019-11-10 13:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Amazing insight into intel background and context of who might be behind the execution. Read the whole article.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2019-11-10 13:44||   2019-11-10 13:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Wikipedia: Ari Ben-Menashe

Ari Ben-Menashe (Hebrew: ארי בן מנשה; born Tehran, 4 December 1951)[1] is an Iranian-born Israeli businessman, security consultant and author. He was previously an employee of Israel's Military Intelligence Directorate from 1977 to 1987 and an arms dealer.[2] He now lives in Montreal, Canada, and runs an international commodity exporting firm, Traeger Resources and Logistics Inc.[3]

He’s the one who leaked the Iran-Contra story to the press.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-10 14:51||   2019-11-10 14:51|| Front Page Top

#4 I did a name link search on Mr. Ben-Menashe — the results are now added to the article.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-10 14:54||   2019-11-10 14:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Ref #1: Should've looked up wiki article on Ben-Menashe before posting, Besoeker.

I don't believe we have the luxury of discounting anything at this point. Revenge as a motive?

I was betting on a US/GB bilateral, but it could have been an IC ménage à trois....but what do I know ?

It's on the 'possibles' wall. We can always chuckle and hit 'brain housing group' delete later. Let's see what comes of it, shall, we.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-10 15:26||   2019-11-10 15:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Hard to believe somebody who claims to be associated with half the sacred services in the world.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-10 15:27||   2019-11-10 15:27|| Front Page Top

#7 A little over two years ago I would not have 'believed' our own intelligence community would foment a US Presidential coup d'état.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-10 15:34||   2019-11-10 15:34|| Front Page Top

#8 I don't believe it even now - the clumsiness of it.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-10 15:43||   2019-11-10 15:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Well, you know the Bob Maxwell story, so she came by it honestly. Preacher's son the preacher, farmer's son the farmer, policeman's son the.....
Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-10 16:01||   2019-11-10 16:01|| Front Page Top

#10 It's not like he was a dedicated asset for a particular govt. Mercenary services of several kinds are employed by almost all apparatus around the world. Why, he could have worked for Russians, Chinese, Americans, anyone at any time and his immediate loyalties could have overlapped and intersected at any point. He was a service provider, plain and simple. He used his means to live this wild life, and wielded this power over compromised people and that's what got him killed. I assume there are several such service providers still in the US. They would enjoy the confidence of several bureaucrats and politicians.

Rich, powerful people need their indulgences and a safe space to enjoy what their power purchases. Men like Epstein supply that need and acquire information, favors, leverage etc over the years. Most of the time they do not even put it on the market at all.

I've read and heard about his stupid ideas of populating his estate with mini epsteins, spraying his sperm around. If the Israelis, or any credible agency was running him, mental instability alone would invite a 'termination'. The Farm people regularly choose to keep working with such unstable elements though.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-10 16:43||   2019-11-10 16:43|| Front Page Top

#11 He was a blackmailer. He had the goods on a Son of Windsor. That alone would have warranted MI6's close attention if not involvement.

Add his intimate connection to the House of Maxwell and it seems even more likely MI6 were involved.

Mais que scais-je?
Posted by Lex 2019-11-10 16:51||   2019-11-10 16:51|| Front Page Top

#12 Hmmm... I wouldn't put it past those guys too.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-10 17:02||   2019-11-10 17:02|| Front Page Top

#13 I don't believe it even now - the clumsiness of it.

If the modern intelligence agencies of the US were more than pale shadows of their former selves, both in a capabilty and a moral sense, Hugo Chavez would have slipped on a banana peel on an up escalator and had a fatal concussion when his head hit the ceiling.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2019-11-10 20:39||   2019-11-10 20:39|| Front Page Top

#14 Looking at the Zimbabwe story.. I think the guy is a cutout for spreading disinformation, kind of like Steele. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, but at most it's probably a half truth told with a lot of malice. Best to not believe anything if you didn't administer the sodium pentathol yourself.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2019-11-10 20:42||   2019-11-10 20:42|| Front Page Top

#15 Ref #14: Yes, deflection and the blaming of Jews, a possibility which should be strongly examined.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-10 22:11||   2019-11-10 22:11|| Front Page Top

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