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2021-09-07 Science & Technology

Why in the World Is the Government Disrupting the Distribution of Monoclonal Antibodies Now?

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Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-09-07 08:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [336074 views ] Top
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#1 It's threatening their vaccine gravy train.

Posted by ed in texas 2021-09-07 10:23|| 2021-09-07 10:23|| Front Page Top

#2 ^1. Exactly. They have made it very clear they do not want a treatment.

Posted by Angstrom 2021-09-07 10:55|| 2021-09-07 10:55|| Front Page Top

#3 (a) A course of treatment with monoclonals costs a lot more than active immunization.
(b) Since it doesn't induce even temp immunity - that's why it's called passive immunization - it will have to be repeated with every exposure.
(c) There is evidence that existing monoclonals are NOT effective against delta variant.
(d) With De Santis' cheap publicity trick - since he's perfectly aware of (a), (b), (c) - the demand for monoclonals exceeds the supply. Therefore the new regulations.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-07 11:32|| 2021-09-07 11:32|| Front Page Top

#4 There is evidence that existing monoclonals are NOT effective against delta variant.

Or Mu.

COVID-19 variant mu detected in 49 states

Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-07 11:47|| 2021-09-07 11:47|| Front Page Top

#5 Two thoughts.

Monoclonals would be specific to a variant. So wouldn't you need ones tailored to the virus you have? Note this appears to apply to the vaccine too, and more boosters of an ineffective vaccine presumably won't do much good.

The monoclonals themselves would not confer natural immunity, but having the infection will. Anyone want to share a paper stating that use of monoclonals prevents or impairs a natural immune response? Which, in the case of Delta anyway, is something like 7x more effective than the vax.

Posted by Angstrom 2021-09-07 13:10|| 2021-09-07 13:10|| Front Page Top

#6 G(r)om, that's the point.
It can't possibly compete even with the (dubious) vaccines, but they had to go code red and see to it that it's stopped.
Why? Because you're not allowed to compete with the narrative.
Somebody might start saying things like 'divert some of the money to look at this'. Can't be having that idea be discussed.

Posted by ed in texas 2021-09-07 17:31|| 2021-09-07 17:31|| Front Page Top

#7 ^Let me reiterate. Due to increased demand there is a supply shortage. Thus, IMO, the regulation.
p.s. Don't expect them to increase production to accommodate De Santis' political stunt (= very transient rise in demand). In fact, don't expect anyone - except Republican pols - to move a finger to accommodate the anti-vaxxers.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-07 17:44|| 2021-09-07 17:44|| Front Page Top

#8 By making it exclusive, they can give away more of the vax that doesn't [no longer] work.

Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-07 18:32|| 2021-09-07 18:32|| Front Page Top

#9 (b) Since it doesn't induce even temp immunity - that's why it's called passive immunization - it will have to be repeated with every exposure.

Only if you're using it on people with no symptoms whatsoever, which as far as I can tell isn't the case; they're being used to treat people that are symptomatic but not necessarily on their last legs.

(c) There is evidence that existing monoclonals are NOT effective against delta variant.

Linking to a google search? Hmm. the fourth item to come up was Monoclonal antibody treatments work against delta variant when taken in first week of symptoms: doctors.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-09-07 18:56|| 2021-09-07 18:56|| Front Page Top

#10 Monoclonal antibody treatments work against delta variant when taken in first week of symptoms: doctors.

Groovy. How many get to docs in week one?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-07 19:04|| 2021-09-07 19:04|| Front Page Top

#11 Doctors?

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-09-07 19:32|| 2021-09-07 19:32|| Front Page Top

#12 They'e probably seeing Nurse Practitiones in week one if they start coming down with cold symptoms. As near as I can tell they're doing aggressive testing down here. (Disclaimer: I'm not in Florida but elsewhere in the South).

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-09-07 19:33|| 2021-09-07 19:33|| Front Page Top

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