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2021-09-16 Europe
Biden finds himself at the center of another international storm: France says it has been 'stabbed in the back' by US-UK defense pact to take on China by building Australia's nuclear-powered submarines
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Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-16 06:59|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [336071 views ]  Top
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#1 Read ex-PM's blistering 200-word rant about American nuclear submarines - warning 'if the US can't beat a bunch of Taliban rebels in pick-up trucks, what chance would it have against China?'
Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-16 07:01||   2021-09-16 07:01|| Front Page Top

#2 No mention of how they will be armed. Nerf tipped missiles if the left here has any say.
Posted by Grunter 2021-09-16 07:35||   2021-09-16 07:35|| Front Page Top

#3 China reacts with fury after Australia signs a security alliance with the US and UK and vows to build nuclear-powered submarines - amid fears Beijing will ban MORE Aussie exports
Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-16 07:38||   2021-09-16 07:38|| Front Page Top

#4 We have become a laughingstock.

How far we've fallen under these treasonous shitheads ... Now the French are making nasty jokes about our military prowess
Posted by Savoir Faire is Everywhere 2021-09-16 07:39||   2021-09-16 07:39|| Front Page Top

#5 France says it’s been stabbed in the back. That’s rich.
Posted by Grunter 2021-09-16 07:39||   2021-09-16 07:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Who is more authoritarian at the moment? China or Australia?
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-09-16 08:18||   2021-09-16 08:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Taiwan and Japan's joy at AUKUS submarine pact to take on China: Relief among the West's Pacific allies while furious Beijing warns it 'undermines peace', France fumes over 'stab in the back' and anti-nuke New Zealand BANS Aussie subs
Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-16 08:51||   2021-09-16 08:51|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm going with Australia from what I've been seeing around.
Posted by Chris 2021-09-16 08:51||   2021-09-16 08:51|| Front Page Top

#9 China threatens to sail its navy into Hawaiian waters as US and Australia announce defence pact - days after flotilla of four Chinese vessels sail past Alaska
Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-16 08:53||   2021-09-16 08:53|| Front Page Top

#10 ^Pearl Harbor redux?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-16 09:20||   2021-09-16 09:20|| Front Page Top

#11 Waiting for the very woke, very green, American Solar Powered Submarine.

Who is more authoritarian at the moment? China or Australia?
Australia. New Zealand as a proper mention.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-09-16 10:36||   2021-09-16 10:36|| Front Page Top

#12 ...This is the second big naval export contract that the French have lost (the other being the USN's FFX competition)- they ain't happy.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2021-09-16 10:49||   2021-09-16 10:49|| Front Page Top

#13 Back-stabbing, refined and perfected by Charles deGaulle.
Posted by Bobby 2021-09-16 11:05||   2021-09-16 11:05|| Front Page Top

#14 Evidently those French built AIP subs just weren't makin' it. You also have to wonder, if you loaded the Aussies up with Tomahawks, ...
Posted by ed in texas 2021-09-16 11:10||   2021-09-16 11:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Heavy discussion on Twitter. It came about when the Australians approached the US about building their own nuke subs to US design in OZ. They had a large contract for new subs from the French that they dropped when Biden said OKAY. The French are very upset.
Posted by 3dc 2021-09-16 11:35||   2021-09-16 11:35|| Front Page Top

#16 I wonder where they'll be built.
Submarine Base Subic Bay
Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-16 11:56||   2021-09-16 11:56|| Front Page Top

#17 When you're talking about submarine hull and nuke plant welding, umm, these are skills that aren't easily aquired, hard to keep up, and don't travel well. They've got to know this.
I imagine a bunch of guys from RN Portsmouth and Electric Boat are going to be travelling in the near future. First you've got to build the plant...
Posted by ed in texas 2021-09-16 12:20||   2021-09-16 12:20|| Front Page Top

#18 FUCK

FRANCE
Posted by Blinky Pholuling8616 2021-09-16 12:24||   2021-09-16 12:24|| Front Page Top

#19 BTW, the Aussies have been deep into Boeing's 'Loyal Wingman" development:

Posted by ed in texas 2021-09-16 12:52||   2021-09-16 12:52|| Front Page Top

#20 Link didn't come through:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39539/australias-loyal-wingman-air-combat-drone-has-flown-for-the-first-time
Posted by ed in texas 2021-09-16 12:53||   2021-09-16 12:53|| Front Page Top

#21 I don't understand how we can undercut the French price and still give 10% to the Big Guy.
Posted by Matt 2021-09-16 15:58||   2021-09-16 15:58|| Front Page Top

#22 ^ He's senile. "Dude, you already got paid, remember?"
Posted by Frank G 2021-09-16 16:00||   2021-09-16 16:00|| Front Page Top

#23 ^ LOL. Jen will have to circle back on that one.
Posted by Matt 2021-09-16 16:52||   2021-09-16 16:52|| Front Page Top

#24 I’ll go!
Posted by Rightwing 2021-09-16 20:32||   2021-09-16 20:32|| Front Page Top

#25 Australia is also a partner in hypersonic vehicles.

The French contract seemed awfully expensive when considering Virginia block 5 subs cost the US $2.4 billion + Gov Furnished Equipment and never need refueling for the life o the sub. Plus, they are scary armed and capable. The Aussies will get much more capable subs with better weapons and growth potential for less money.
Posted by Chirong Unomoter2947 2021-09-16 20:48||   2021-09-16 20:48|| Front Page Top

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