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2022-05-20 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Stop The Denial: Ukraine Is A Proxy War That Will Lead To Wider World War
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Posted by Besoeker 2022-05-20 02:32|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [10807 views ]  Top

#1 In my my book.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-05-20 11:16||   2022-05-20 11:16|| Front Page Top

#2 He's right: it's a proxy war between Biden and Putin. Both their countries are losing.
Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 11:39||   2022-05-20 11:39|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't need to buy the book. It's been perfectly obvious from the get-go that the two primary belligerents are Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin. Of course you understand that by "Joe Biden" I mean whatever bunch of Deep State globalists are pulling his strings. They want regime change in Moscow just like the regime change they engineered in Kiev back in 2014...just like Kosovo, Iraq, Libya, etc. It's what they do.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-05-20 11:42||   2022-05-20 11:42|| Front Page Top

#4 If I had to guess right now, I'd say these globalists have about a 50-50 chance in their bid to depose Putin. But what then? Maybe Russia will end up like Libya. Who will end up with control of Russia's nuclear arsenal? Someone who is "better" than Putin or someone who is worse? Maybe the globalists have someone in mind but who knows? I guess we just have to trust them.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-05-20 11:55||   2022-05-20 11:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Regime change? I think there are many Red Diaper Babies furious at Russia's betrayal of the Communist Ideal.
Posted by magpie 2022-05-20 11:56||   2022-05-20 11:56|| Front Page Top

Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-05-20 12:22||   2022-05-20 12:22|| Front Page Top

#7 So Putin should end it.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-05-20 12:29||   2022-05-20 12:29|| Front Page Top

#8 Now the New York Times editors are calling on Biden to de-escalate , explain what the hell their strategy is (if any), and in effect, to initiate peace talks. Evidently, Tom Friedman's been getting lots of phone calls from his pals in the Administration and the intelligence community. They can see that Biden and Austin have been unbelievably reckless and foolish.
Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 12:44||   2022-05-20 12:44|| Front Page Top

#9 #4 I'd say these globalists have about a 50-50 chance in their bid to depose Putin.

Where'd you get that number? Based on what evidence?
Who would replace him -- Navalny? Navalny is a fervent Russian nationalist who was 100% in favor of annexing Crimea. So is nearly everyone in Russia.

Or do these deluded fantasists think the Pu$ sy Riot girlz will depose him? By killing with their qu!ms?
Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 13:08||   2022-05-20 13:08|| Front Page Top

#10 The whole idea is to trigger a wider war and invade Russia. Not just regime change, but the breakup of Russia into smaller states easily dominated by banks.

And then, the refugee airlift starts. Massive relocation of population from ME/Africa to the former territory of the Russian Federation. The replacement of the Rus people with immigrants. Russia will never be a threat again.

Then, Iran, Venezuela, China and any other leftovers. The way will be clear for a global governance. Bye-bye US Constitution!
Posted by Blackbeard Unereck7174 2022-05-20 13:31||   2022-05-20 13:31|| Front Page Top

#11 ^^^ The latest offering from the narrative engineers.
Posted by Nero 2022-05-20 13:34||   2022-05-20 13:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Hardly crazier than Biden's shifting narratives. "Defending 'freedom' and 'democracy' ... in a one-party kleptocratic dictatorship. Yup.
Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 14:26||   2022-05-20 14:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Evidently, Tom Friedman's been getting lots of phone calls from his pals in the Administration and the intelligence community. They can see that Biden and Austin have been unbelievably reckless and foolish.

Battle within the Agency. Old hands trying to rein in the neocon punks. Friedman leaks against the leakers:

"...from everything I have been able to glean from senior U.S. officials, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, the leaks were not part of any thought-out strategy, and President Biden was livid about them. I’m told that he called the director of national intelligence, the director of the C.I.A. and the secretary of defense to make clear in the strongest and most colorful language that this kind of loose talk is reckless and has got to stop immediately — before we end up in an unintended war with Russia."
Posted by James Jeebus Angel 2022-05-20 14:33||   2022-05-20 14:33|| Front Page Top

#14 ^ Biden's cracking down on "loose reckless talk"? He's the most reckless of them all. That is some world class spin right there.
Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 14:46||   2022-05-20 14:46|| Front Page Top

#15 Ref #6: Please Ab, never again.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-05-20 15:02||   2022-05-20 15:02|| Front Page Top

#16 There was that week when Brandon's meds were definitely not working; could be he doesn't remember it was him.
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-05-20 15:39||   2022-05-20 15:39|| Front Page Top

#17 So Putin should end it.

Oh, you mean like standing in front of a train or jumping off a bridge? Because that's the only kind of peace that Biden wants.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-05-20 17:24||   2022-05-20 17:24|| Front Page Top

#18 Ref #6: Please Ab, never again.

Sorry, B. That one got away from me.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-05-20 17:25||   2022-05-20 17:25|| Front Page Top

#19 I guess everyone's Out To Get Russia by throwing gobs of money at it.

"Italy exposed for buying FOUR times more oil from Russia since start of Ukraine war"
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-05-20 17:45||   2022-05-20 17:45|| Front Page Top

#20 EU Gives OK To Pay For Russian Gas In Rubles

Ruble: best performing currency of 2022... while our stocks crash and burn. Fook.
Posted by Astaire 2022-05-20 18:19||   2022-05-20 18:19|| Front Page Top

#21 Indian oil companies will buy out Shell and BP's assets in Russia, per the Economic Times
Posted by Astaire 2022-05-20 18:22||   2022-05-20 18:22|| Front Page Top

#22 ^ Way to go, Brandon!
Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 18:47||   2022-05-20 18:47|| Front Page Top

#23 #21 The Economic Times article is here. The title is "ONGC weighs raising stakes in Russian oil despite Shell snub". The article goes on to discuss various possible bids for the western oil assets, which is a long way from "will buy". The concluding paragraph is:

The departure of oil majors also means an erosion in capabilities for Russian projects.

"Western companies brought in a lot of technical competence to Russian projects and their departure might impact the progress of projects," said another person. "Without them, it might be challenging to maintain efficiency in some of the projects located in harsh geographical conditions."
Posted by Matt 2022-05-20 18:54||   2022-05-20 18:54|| Front Page Top

#24 They'll buy. The western majors are being forced -- not by the host country but by their own governments! -- forced to sell, and sell ASAP, at any price.

Fire sale of the century.
Posted by Astaire 2022-05-20 19:12||   2022-05-20 19:12|| Front Page Top

#25 Brandon thought he was hurting the Russians. He's not hurting them, he's crushing us. Typical Brandon, the stupid fuckwit
Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 19:14||   2022-05-20 19:14|| Front Page Top

#26 If you want to share that opinion with us, fine. But that's not what the article you cited says.
Posted by Matt 2022-05-20 19:16||   2022-05-20 19:16|| Front Page Top

#27 The last paragraph is an oil journalist's opinion. He's wrong. The oil majors need assets at scale and they scour the earth for them; big properties are extremely hard to come by. There are very few available. Re the harsh conditions, so what. When the oil price is sky high, Big Oil will find ways to turn a profit no matter what the obstacles.
Posted by Astaire 2022-05-20 19:27||   2022-05-20 19:27|| Front Page Top

#28 Can Rosneft and Gazprom operate the properties?
Posted by Matt 2022-05-20 19:35||   2022-05-20 19:35|| Front Page Top

#29 I mean, considering the resignation of 5 senior Rosneft executives?
Posted by Matt 2022-05-20 19:48||   2022-05-20 19:48|| Front Page Top

#30 Biden's oil policy is killing the US economy, impoverishing American households, enriching Big Oil, sending windfall profits to Russia, and building up Chinese and Indian oil companies. Biden is a foreign agent sent on a mission to destroy America.
Posted by Billy Budd 2022-05-20 20:03||   2022-05-20 20:03|| Front Page Top

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