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2023-06-10 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by trailing wife 2023-06-10 00:31|| || Front Page|| [15 views ] Top
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#1 ...First, you can be quite sure that the CCP leadership knows and understands this very well.

Second, never forget for an instant that Imperial Japan - knowing full well their chances of ultimately defeating the Allies were slim and none - went to war convinced that if they didn't, they were going to be economically strangled and defeated.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2023-06-10 09:05|| 2023-06-10 09:05|| Front Page Top

#2 knowing full well their chances of ultimately defeating the Allies were slim and none - went to war convinced that if they didn't, they were going to be economically strangled and defeated.

And President Putin went to war against the Ukraine, because without that actuality, future threats would be completely impotent. Not to mention that the Ukraine fought back against Russia, because whether they did or not the outcome would be the same erasure for them — but at least if they fought back the rest of the former Soviet Union would have a weakened opponent.

Posted by trailing wife 2023-06-10 11:35|| 2023-06-10 11:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Mike reads a different history. The militarists who ran Japan were all out on territorial conquest as amply shown by their invasion of China, taking advantage of the 'Warlord' period and internal preoccupation with ascendancy among the natives. The Japanese knew full well that the Europeans, tied up with another round of self destruction, were in no position to effect Japanese expansion and growth through territorial acquisition. The only 'threat' was that posed by America. The objective of the Japanese was the Dutch East Indies, where they were in fact greeted by the local population in removing their colonial overlords. However, that line of supply went by the Philippines and the militarists assumed the American would use that as base to intervene in their action, thinking the Americans thought like them. As much as FDR blustered about the situation, they had absolutely no grasp that the American public would not involve itself in protecting European colonies while at the same time had already scheduled the Philippines for independence in 1946. It was a major and fatal political calculation on their part.

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-06-10 12:19|| 2023-06-10 12:19|| Front Page Top

#4 A key point to Mike's look is that the Japanese felt they were destined to come into conflict with the Americans. The question then becomes do we fight now or later? Now when we are strong or later after we are starved for resources?

I think Putin made a similar calculation with regards to NATO. Hostile forces east of the Dniepr pose a threat to Russia. Having done the Battle of Stalingrad once, they have no interest in letting things get that far.

Posted by SteveS 2023-06-10 19:29|| 2023-06-10 19:29|| Front Page Top

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