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Olde Tyme Religion
Father Zakaria Botros Confronts Islam on Arabic TV
Meet Zakaria Botros,

At 28 minutes before air time, an assistant is lint-rolling Father Zakaria Botros' cassock, polishing the pectoral cross...Botros, an Egyptian, will host the live show about to be broadcast via Cyprus-based satellite channel Al-Hayat, which will last 90 minutes and may have an audience of up to 60 million viewers across the Arab world and beyond—from the Middle East to Europe to North America to Australia. And most of the viewers who sit down to watch the televised ruminations of a 75-year-old Christian will be Muslims....Twice authorities jailed him for preaching the gospel to Muslims, once in 1981 for one year, and again in 1989. A judge sentenced him to life in prison but ordered him released on the condition of forced exile: He had to leave Egypt and never return. By that time he had ministered in Cairo for over 30 years but moved to England with his wife where he ministered in a Coptic church for 11 years before he said he "retired" to begin the television and internet ministry.
Posted by: mhw || 12/07/2008 11:13 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What a contrast between this man and so many of the current Christian church(s) leadership of all denominations.
Posted by: tipover || 12/07/2008 12:43 Comments || Top||

#2  In his last year of high school he had a Muslim teacher who regularly challenged him for worshipping "a dead God." Botros said he realized, "If I answered him from the Bible it would be no good. I had to read the Muslim books and the Quran itself." Throughout his university years, he said, he read all the teachings of Muhammad as a way to answer Muslim questions about Christianity.

Indeed. And then about Islam itself. A very clever and insightful man. Are the Muslim authorities still claiming six million are converting to Christianity annually?
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2008 13:48 Comments || Top||

#3  The guy's got some stones, you gotta give him credit for that.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/07/2008 23:00 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Will oceanic thermal gradients offer endless, cheap power?
Don't know enough about this to judge how promising this technology is, or how well researched the article is - but, this part caught my eye:

The US military has plans to build a plant off Diego Garcia, their base in the Indian Ocean, which should have an output of 8MW and be running by the end of 2011; another project is underway to build a 10-20MW plant off the coast of Hawaii. The US government granted $600,000 to Lockheed Martin, a company well known for their aeronautics research, in hopes that the technology will eventually lead to a plant capable of producing 500MW of power.
Posted by: ryuge || 12/07/2008 07:18 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Some years ago, the MMGW crowd were bemoaning that very deep, very cold water current patterns were slightly warming and changing, and beyond a certain threshold would no longer continue, radially altering world weather patterns.

Well, some ingenious individual came up with a brilliant solution to that problem.

There is a time bomb of sorts under large areas of the world's sea floors. Methane clathrate, or methane ice, if warmed just a few degrees, can explode, converting into hundreds of thousands of tons of methane gas, erupting into the atmosphere.

So, the theory went, why not start mining this undersea methane ice, and use its energy to chill coolant inside a large, metal pipeline that cuts across the deep sea current?

All it has to do is cool it a degree or two over the course of years, acting like a big stick of ice in a drink, and not only would be dangerous methane ice be dissipated safely, but the deep water current would be slightly chilled to its optimal temperature.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/07/2008 9:08 Comments || Top||

#2  This technology requires an enormous amount of pipes, all of which have to be resistant to corrosion. It also requires heat exchangers which are incredibly efficient and durable. It requires lots of other stuff too.

My hats off to any engineering group that can pull this off.
Posted by: mhw || 12/07/2008 9:16 Comments || Top||

#3  The science is well-known and used extensively in other applications. Once you build the apparatus to extract the power, the power is essentially free and very clean. Geothermal works on the same principle and with a much larger temperature differential and should be even more efficient. The question is economics. It seems like the costs should be able to be determined to a considerable degree of accuracy. So why don't we have a these things all over the place?
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 12/07/2008 9:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Geothermal requires high cost wells with even more extremely corrosive fluids. But you can drive your pick-up truck up to the bulk of the pipes and equipment to maintain them. The pressure and temperature changes associated with the energy extraction would simultanously 'exctract' minerals from solution, which should tend to plug up all the tubing with scale. Hmmm.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/07/2008 10:17 Comments || Top||

#5  So why don't we have a these things all over the place?

Because all the costs are up front. I have one at my house, but it added about 4% to the cost of the house and there is nothing you can see to brag about. It also required 1/4 acre of lawn. But I have about a $75 per month heating and a/c bill for a 4,000 sq ft house in PA. That will go to $100 or $125 when they dereg electricity in two years, but it will still be cheaper than oil.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/07/2008 10:29 Comments || Top||

#6  That's a geothermal thing in the ground, Mr. Spemble.

They're talking about these things in the ocean. Much more maintenance intensive.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 12/07/2008 10:58 Comments || Top||

#7  So, the theory went, why not start mining this undersea methane ice, and use its energy to chill coolant inside a large, metal pipeline that cuts across the deep sea current?

Thermodynamics 101

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/07/2008 11:52 Comments || Top||

#8  TFSM

So you pump water through a to the proper depth. Construction costs are higher. Where's the maintenance that's different from an oil well?

And maintenance costs should be easily defrayed (if the idea is practical, about which I am sceptical) from the high margin energy sales.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/07/2008 12:06 Comments || Top||

#9  The materials tech for such a project would have to be leading edge and the same for the tech required to maintain it. The petroleum industry has developed a lot of it already but are we there yet with the economics? Only the Engineers know.

Note that the two sites they are discussing are islands with a LONG logistics train and a requirement for power not subject to interruption. Cost is probably secondary. I wonder how they would defend the complex from underwater attack?
Posted by: tipover || 12/07/2008 12:53 Comments || Top||

#10  It appears that some of you didn't read the whole article before commenting.
Posted by: Darrell || 12/07/2008 13:14 Comments || Top||

#11  "OTEC is basically a large tube running one kilometre into the ocean off a floating power plant; but ocean currents put a huge amount of stress on the pipe and the power plant... A 100MW plant might require a pipe 30 feet in diameter, which would be very difficult to anchor and install."
30 FEET IN DIAMETER! Take it from this mechanical engineer, friends, it ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Darrell || 12/07/2008 13:34 Comments || Top||

#12  Low yield power energy production using vast amounts of labor, materials and upkeep. A sure path to slow ruin.
Posted by: ed || 12/07/2008 16:14 Comments || Top||

#13  So you pump water through a to the proper depth. Construction costs are higher. Where's the maintenance that's different from an oil well?


Immersion in very slightly alkalai salt water.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 12/07/2008 18:29 Comments || Top||

#14  Oil wells aren't in slightly alkali sale water?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/07/2008 18:47 Comments || Top||

#15  How about 6, 5 foot pipes, no make that 7, (Bundles easier, allows for friction)
That's doable.
Posted by: Rednek Jim || 12/07/2008 20:28 Comments || Top||

#16  It would take a bundle of 36. And the bundle's diameter would be a bit larger than 30'.
Posted by: ed || 12/07/2008 20:36 Comments || Top||

#17  long pipes are very flexible, a pipe-lay barge will make you realize just how flexible. Stainless Steel is even more flexible, but a project like this would warrant a new product, like a composite or a nano material. The theory is sound, but capitalizing it will cost someone a fortune, and nowdays people don't seem to want to tolerate the inevitable failures that would occur along with the successes to develop something like this.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/07/2008 22:51 Comments || Top||



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