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2008-12-07

December 7, 1941

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Posted by logi_cal 2008-12-07 01:56|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Sadly interesting.

Nearly 3000 killed and the world cheered the US engagement. 12/7/1941.

Almost 60 years later the US suffers another attack and we are reviled for acting as the world burns (Rome, France, Thailand, Denmark, et. al.)

Can the spirit really so weaken in two generations?

Posted by Skidmark 2008-12-07 10:08|| 2008-12-07 10:08|| Front Page Top

#2 My uncle was with the 72nd Pursuit Squadron at Wheeler Field. That morning he was waiting for a bus to take him to Honolulu and heard this song playing on a radio in the barracks. He saw Japanese planes approaching the field & wondered why there had been no publicity for their visit. Then he saw a bomb drop from one of the planes.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-12-07 10:16|| 2008-12-07 10:16|| Front Page Top

#3 No, SM, we are just waiting again.

The picture thar.... is a kinda good summation of Pearl Harbour... that's the destroy Shaw in what looker likes a cataclismik boiler explosion. It was..... not quiet....

she was too old for retention in the post-war fleet and was sent to the U.S. east coast for inactivation. Decommissioned in October 1945, USS Shaw was scrapped in July 1946.

Shoulda held on to that one... better lucky than good. And speaking of which.... Hai Lucky!

Posted by .5MT 2008-12-07 10:33|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-12-07 10:33|| Front Page Top

#4 Thanks for the pic, Steve.

Posted by logi_cal 2008-12-07 11:28|| 2008-12-07 11:28|| Front Page Top

#5 When we were attacked 60 years ago the world was already at war. Nanking had been raped, Korea had been occupied for 40 years, Marshal Petain was governing his piece of La Belle France from Vichy and Dunkirk had been evacuated. Norway had been occupied the previous April.

Had Europe and most of Asia been at peace, they'd have tut-tutted and sent men with high silk hats to conferences as their response to Pearl Harbor.

Posted by Fred 2008-12-07 14:05|| 2008-12-07 14:05|| Front Page Top

#6 [RickKF has been pooplisted.]

Posted by RickKF 2008-12-07 15:23|| 2008-12-07 15:23|| Front Page Top

#7 I found a you tube video on The Niihau Incident, a work in progress and I can never get links to imbed so here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FarIFRY5fqs

Seems the Zero pilot's plane was damaged by an American fighter. So this started as better plane vs better pilot.

Posted by bruce 2008-12-07 17:17|| 2008-12-07 17:17|| Front Page Top

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-12-07 18:06|| 2008-12-07 18:06|| Front Page Top

#9 We will see this again soon enough.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-12-07 18:08|| 2008-12-07 18:08|| Front Page Top

#10

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-12-07 18:18|| 2008-12-07 18:18|| Front Page Top

#11

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-12-07 18:20|| 2008-12-07 18:20|| Front Page Top

#12 Actually the American Spirit has not changed. In the 3rd year of WWII people were tired of the war as every town and city had lost sons and daughters. Many protest were going on and some in congress pushing for a deal with Japan. In many ways the raising of the flag by Marines at IWO sparked public awareness to continue the war. It was a secret that up to 1.5 Million casualties were expected in the invasion of Japan as the Military and Congress thought that the Americans at home would go nuts.

Then there was Korea - we used the Nuke threat to stop that one

Vietnam where we gave up to doing what was popular and not what was right - and lost.

Only G.W. could have kept the Iraq War against Terror going like it did. Everyone else wanted to fold and abandon the Iraqi people to their fate. I can just here faintly G.W. saying. "Not on My Watch !"

Posted by Chief 2008-12-07 18:34|| 2008-12-07 18:34|| Front Page Top

#13 The Japs attacked. Japan ended up looking like Charleston after Sherman got done with it, after someone else attacked America military installation. Come to think of it, someone attacked another military installation on 9/11 and seems to be living in as much luxury as the two aforementioned groups did towards the end as well. Seems to be a pattern there.

However, before the patron saint of the left can duck and cover, FDR himself would launch an unprovoked attack and invasion of French North Africa, while maintaining open diplomatic ties with neutral Vichy France, and no declaration of war or Congressional authorization. Lots of French died fighting defending their sovereign territory. Strategically necessary, most likely, but using the standards of today to adjudge the actions of people who lived in earlier times is a big lefty power game. That's why its sometimes entertaining to watch them twist and turn trying to rationalize their articulated 'standards'.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-12-07 18:59|| 2008-12-07 18:59|| Front Page Top

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