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Hamas accidentally blows up hospital, kills 500. Israel gets blamed.
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-Great Cultural Revolution
Orwellian Irony: The Left is Now Trying to Cancel George Orwell
[Gateway] The left has pushed the world to nearly 1984 levels of authoritarianism, but apparently they don’t want people to know that there was a book that warned people not to do that.

Could they possibly cancel George Orwell? It sure looks like they’re trying.

You couldn’t make this up.

From the Telegraph, via MSN:

George Orwell was ’sadistic, misogynistic, homophobic and sometimes violent’

George Orwell was a "sadistic, misogynistic, homophobic, sometimes violent" man who wrote women out of his story, according to a biographer of his wife.

Anna Funder said that Orwell was a brilliant writer but a complicated man whose personal life was at odds with the "decency" of his writing.

She has produced a biography of Eileen O’Shaugnessy, Orwell’s wife — highlighting the contributions O’Shaugnessy made to his work, including helping him to write Animal Farm.

According to Funder, the darkness that runs through 1984 is a reflection of Orwell’s soul.

"Decency is such a core Orwellian value. He writes about it. It’s the quality of the ’proles’ in 1984 that is going to save us. He wanted to be decent, to be seen as decent, by which he meant a man of integrity, the same inside and out," said Funder.

"Also, he also used that word to refer to being heterosexual — he was enormously homophobic but deeply attracted to men, and I think not particularly interested in women sexually.

Does anyone on the left see the irony here?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/18/2023 02:39 || Comments || Link || [21 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I guess I missed it when I read that book. Could this be yet another case of left-wing projection?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/18/2023 11:13 Comments || Top||

#2  So Anna Funder had a mission: to exaggerate the Fem-importance of Orwell's wife? What better way than to trash the author/man
Posted by: Frank G || 10/18/2023 11:34 Comments || Top||

#3  The Trump of his time. Figures they'd make a backstabber out of his wife.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/18/2023 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  It’s almost like they are rewriting history to suit the new orthodoxy. Who could have predicted that?
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 12:37 Comments || Top||

#5  They're close. 1984 will be remembered for the now corrected reasons. Orwell won't be history for some time - that will need to be rediscovered along with Tolkien, Heinlen, CS Lewis...etc.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/18/2023 14:44 Comments || Top||

#6  Another house nagger splains irksome Eric [Solnit at Amazon].
Posted by: Thrumble Snumble4393 || 10/18/2023 14:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Old news. The left has hated Orwell for a long time. First for betraying them by revealing that English socialists despised and ridiculed the working class, and then by writing two classic novels that reveal exactly what socialism does when it takes over.

Did anyone seriously think they LIKED Orwell? WTF?
Posted by: Ulomorong Croting3271 || 10/18/2023 17:50 Comments || Top||


LA's latest homeless plan could turn hotels into squatter dens: expert
[FoxBusiness]
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/18/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under: Mob Rule

#1  They'd be better off using the empty office space in LA instead. Since office space is now next to worthless and the squatters are gonna trash them in short order, you can then tear those buildings down and start over.
Posted by: Raj || 10/18/2023 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  You get more of what you tolerate.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/18/2023 6:58 Comments || Top||


#4  Could?
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/18/2023 11:14 Comments || Top||

#5  This is pure communism, expropriating private property for the "common good". The bums will destroy those hotels. Anybody charged with cleaning and maintaining those properties should wear a hazmat suit.

Newsom will not compensate the owners. Beware if this man ever gets into the White House. He will do to the rest of the country what he's doing to California.

The bums need to be incarcerated, preferably in tent cities or barracks way out in the boondocks on government owned property where normal people won't have to deal with them.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/18/2023 11:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Land of lawyers out there. Poison pill it for the city.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/18/2023 11:43 Comments || Top||

#7  There is a lot of empty space at Ft. Irwin, MCB Barstow and Edwards AFB. FEMA tent cities and voila, problem becomes invisible. When the drugs and booze stop flowing, you segregate the unfortunate that are down on their luck from the mentally deranged and lost souls to deep drug addiction. Spend money to help the redeemable, and warehouse the rest humanely.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/18/2023 13:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Three years ago when a raised alarm could have prevented this, I believe Fox inc. was calling such people the worst of people, even advocating on account of Covid.

Squatter Dens. Polite speak for entire floors turned into various Sin Dens with bouncers and security. Until there is finally a fire and the entire building turns to a cinder because all fire precautions had been compromised.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/18/2023 14:01 Comments || Top||

#9  ^ Ghost Ship Warehouse party flat Oakland CA.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/18/2023 14:46 Comments || Top||

#10  Like a roach motel.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 15:41 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
War is the Dumbest Thing We Humans Do, But It's Coming to America
[News With Views] "War is the dumbest thing we humans do," said Captain Chuck Nash, U.S. Navy.

As I sat watching his interview with Shannon Bream, I thought back on my own time trying to survive the Vietnam War. Robert McNamara concocted the Vietnam War out of some insane idea that a country 10,000 miles away needed saving by America. He convinced President Lyndon B. Johnson to go full-out with 500,000 troops, bombers, napalm, Agent Orange, aircraft carriers and more bullets than grains of sand on the beach.

After Boot Camp at Fort Benning, Georgia in 1968, I figured I was a walking dead man. Forced marches, crawling under concertina wire, gas masks in huts filled with mustard gas, crawling along the ground with bomb craters blowing up within feet of me, drill sergeants crawling down my throat, fire watch, 18 hour days, shooting every kind of weapon along with grenade throwing...how do you live through war?

Then, in 1968 Life Magazine published a full issue with the 300 kids that died in Nam in one week. The whole nightmare made me sick to my stomach. The Draft grabbed my college roommate right out of our room and sent him to Nam. He died in a firefight. He’s on the Vietnam Wall in D.C. I cry my eyes out every time I visit. I run my hands over his name and wonder how his life would have been if McNamara hadn’t created the War. Or, if LBJ was bright enough NOT to enter it! Or, if Westmoreland wouldn’t have been such a moron to engage us further into that hell hole.

In the end, 3.3 million Vietnamese civilians and soldiers on both sides died. We lost 58,479 young men. Another 150,000 of our young men suffered from P.T.S.D., horrible injuries and drug addiction. The Vietnam War brought drug addiction to America. All of it for what? What was accomplished? Nothing but death!
Once the Viet Cong controlled the country, how many did they murder? We know 2.5 million (5% of the population) fled...
Now, Israel fights for its life. You’ve got a bunch of Hamas Muslim fanatics, in fact, all Muslims are fanatics
Nonsense. Too many, yes, but not all.
for Sharia Law and the Qur’an. There’s not another religion on this planet as deadly as Islam. "Convert or kill all non-believers, especially the Jews," commands the Qur’an.

Why the Jews? What’s the beef? What’s the reason?
Tradition. And the living witness that their vision of the one god is not strong enough to persuade all of those who bound themselves to the original contract.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/18/2023 08:19 || Comments || Link || [24 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why the Jews? What’s the beef? What’s the reason?

Jews of Medina
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 8:50 Comments || Top||

#2  I don’t think Iran intends to win a war; they just intend to trigger it as a path to Armageddon.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 12:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Drop the first bunker busters on the well the 12th Imam is supposed to emerge from. Then waste all the strategic sites in iran.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/18/2023 12:53 Comments || Top||

#4  some insane idea that a country 10,000 miles away needed saving by America

We did. However at the time McCarthy had at least scared the commies into keeping a low profile.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/18/2023 17:19 Comments || Top||


Let's Hear It For the Antipope
[Lifesitenews] Archbishop Viganò to Americans: Fight back against the Satanic globalist elite holding the US hostage.

Allow me to address you first of all to thank you for the witness you are giving to your fellow Americans. The awakening of consciences is the first step towards liberation from the subversive leadership that has usurped the highest places in both national and international institutions. Because opening one’s eyes and looking at reality is essential if you are to understand what is really happening, denounce the globalist coup d’état, and regain the national sovereignty and fundamental freedoms that have been taken away from you.

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Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Shy cannibals. Good people just need to kill all the bad ones
[Regnum - Google Translate]
A grown up from Russia of all places
For the second week now, I have been watching how the emotional perception of the conflict is developing, and, finally, I have decided to say something about which I have been silent for the second year.

First, Palestinians from Hamas carried out a massacre in southern Israel. And, of course, all the sympathies of ordinary people far from politics were on the side of the Jews. A person who had his own opinion on the Arab-Israeli conflict, different from the generally accepted one of that day, could be branded a cannibal. What are you, for THESE?

Then Israel launched massive missile and bomb attacks on Gaza and the same public recoiled from it: well, no, these are good too! The collective Eidelman was now wearing cannibals.

And then the charred corpses of headless children were found in the kibbutz. Well, no, the audience said, this is definitely too much, they deserved the bombs right. (Then the investigation begins: were there corpses, were they badly burned? Is it a lot or not enough beheaded children, if there are less than forty of them? And other fascinating fact-checking for gourmets).

And then he flies around the hospital. Three hundred corpses. Five hundred. Eight hundred. Thousand! Who is bigger?

You are here and I have bad news for you: if your choice of side in a political conflict and in war as its extreme phase is based on the height of the pile of children’s corpses, on which you can confidently lean your position, then the cannibal is not Tamara Eidelman or journalist Mardan, and you.

You're just a shy ogre.

But no, I don't blame you. Every person wants to be good, and the least expensive way to achieve this is to be on the good side. Where all the good people are. Unite against the bad ones.

By the way, good people against bad people usually also organize themselves, showing civic consciousness, horizontal connections and grassroots initiative. Like Hutu versus Tutsi. Or like the heir Tutti and his friends against the Three Fat Men. A sure sign.

But I want to upset you: in a political conflict there are no good and bad. There are them vs. us. And their own people can be "good too." But this will not stop them from being their own.

It's been ten years since this war turned my life upside down.
He means the Ukraine war
For me personally, it didn’t even begin on Maidan, but even earlier. But that's a different story. I have lost a lot and continue to lose. I broke many copies, convincing myself and others that I was right.

But never, never, my argument in a political dispute was a child’s corpse. I was against the Ukrainians before they killed the first child, and I remained against them after the first child died on the other side of the front.

...I am against Ukrainians not because they are bad, but because they are strangers. And the fact that I am against them does not make me good. It’s just that, due to many complex reasons, which I can argue convincingly for hours, we have contradictions with them on the land issue. They want to bury me in their land, but I don’t want them to walk on my land.

...And everyone we don’t like is Hitler. And everyone who doesn’t like us thinks we’re Hitler. Very comfortably. There is no need to look for a political way out of a political conflict. You just need to kill all the bad ones.

What is inconvenient is being responsible. For yourself and for yours. Especially if they did something without asking you. And not only a moral responsibility, but also having washed yourself with a bloody skin, it’s hard not to scream: "What are we for?!" It's inconvenient, but it's necessary. Because everything has its price. And for what goes beyond it, there is a tribunal and a military prosecutor’s office. Everyone just has to do their good work well.
Some conflicts don't have a political solution. You Russians didn't negotiate peace with Tatars - you ended Tatar raids by destroying their independent states over centuries
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 03:49 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Back in the day, hippie poet Kenneth Patchen wrote "Humanity is a good thing. Perhaps we can arrange the murder of a sizable number of people to save it."

I used to think that was overly cynical. Let's just say my viewpoint has evolved.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/18/2023 9:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Carthago Delenda Est!
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/18/2023 13:21 Comments || Top||


Don't be afraid of the sign of the cross
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
by Sergey Khudiev

[REGNUM] The appearance of a temple building without a cross on the new design of the 1000-ruble bill sparked an exchange of opinions regarding the symbols of Russia - and, in particular, symbols of religious origin. The banknote depicts the famous Syuyumbike tower in the Kazan Kremlin, which is crowned with a crescent. Next to it is the Museum of the History of Statehood of the Tatar People, located in the building of the former palace church. This combination of images caused different reactions - some say that the building of a former church without a cross, in combination with a tower on which a crescent moon is clearly visible, may be misunderstood. Others urge not to see a problem where there is none - since there is no cross on the building itself, there is no need to demand its image on the banknote.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: badanov || 10/18/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [17 views] Top|| File under:

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Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 7:43 Comments || Top||


Government Corruption
The Entire Premise Of Trump's J6 Trial Is An Affront To Free Elections And Rule Of Law
[The Federalist] A remarkable thing happened on Monday in former President Donald Trump’s criminal trial over his alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election. U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan issued a gag order effectively prohibiting Trump, currently the leading GOP candidate for president, from defending himself in public ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

The gag order means Trump cannot speak publicly about the trial, potential witnesses, court personnel, or Special Counsel Jack Smith, the federal prosecutor who requested the gag order and characterized it as "modest" and "permissible."

As my colleague Tristan Justice pointed out in these pages yesterday, that means Trump is barred from campaigning against his chief political opponent, which isn’t just President Joe Biden but the entire federal government, especially the Justice Department.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/18/2023 08:00 || Comments || Link || [18 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We are losing the Republic before our very eyes.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/18/2023 8:04 Comments || Top||

#2  A judge who is WAY too big for her britches.
Posted by: Tom || 10/18/2023 12:24 Comments || Top||

#3  If 2024 goes the way I expect, accountability for judges is definitely happening.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 12:53 Comments || Top||



Home Front: Politix
Rebel Farmers - How A Farm Family's Faith-Filled Political Spoofs Became A Social Media Sensation
[Federalist] Neither drought nor cancellation can stop the Didiers from doing what they love the most: farming the land and making you laugh.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/18/2023 03:07 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Granny is a stitch.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 12:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Yep! Funny and sadly accurate!
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 10/18/2023 15:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Good screen test for a Beverly Hillbillies reboot.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 15:54 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Why Is Biden Flying Into Israel ?!! (video)
[Still Report]
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"Biden brings back hostages?"
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/18/2023 08:24 || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Because he can't walk without falling?
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/18/2023 10:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Biden wants to tie aid for Israel to aid for Ukraine. If I wasn't so suspicious, I might wonder if CIA dropped the ball on the Hamas attack on purpose. That way, Joe could put the House in the position of rejecting aid for Israel if they reject aid for Ukraine. I know, I know. I'm paranoid as hell. I should be wearing my tin foil hat. Joe makes me that way.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/18/2023 12:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Because he needs the Jewish vote in 2024?
Posted by: Tom || 10/18/2023 12:24 Comments || Top||

#4  ^Come-on he has it anyway.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 12:25 Comments || Top||

#5  I can’t see him being able to deliver a coherent State of the Union speech based on his current health trajectory. By then he will need to be led on a leash.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 12:48 Comments || Top||

#6  ^ Sam Altman whipping his team to have deepfake SOTU ready in time.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/18/2023 12:52 Comments || Top||

#7  I see every public event the POTATUS does through a prism of media value, not subjective policy. Those are set by the consortium that governs this country, not the Puppet Show they installed and control.
Jojo was sent to give the moronic base of MSNBC, CNN and "The View" visuals of supposed support for Israel. They had to blackmail Bibi to set it up on short notice, and are trying to link Israeli and Ukraine aid to get another 100 billion from our empty treasury.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/18/2023 12:57 Comments || Top||

#8  This is unbelievable - Biden reads from notecards in presser with Bibi.

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1714606077977756124?s=20
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/18/2023 13:44 Comments || Top||

#9  Why nobody mentions Iraq?
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 13:57 Comments || Top||

#10  Trying to visualize an aide setting up a teleprompter for JOE JOE inside the Gaza Strip.
Posted by: crazyhorse || 10/18/2023 14:13 Comments || Top||

#11  #8 Was this the presser where he started yelling at invisible people?
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/18/2023 14:41 Comments || Top||


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Posted by: Besoeker || 10/18/2023 17:29 Comments || Top||

#14  Democrats are masters of waving blood shirts and dancing on top of corpses to push their agendas and fundraise. The fact that Bidet failed at this is proof he's no master.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/18/2023 17:36 Comments || Top||

#15  Storming and occupying The Capital Building by Hamas! supporters was allowed.

Brandon has the acuity of a potato.

Running interference?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/18/2023 18:50 Comments || Top||


Peace can't be negotiated because Jews were murdered for who they are
[YNet] Last Saturday Israel suffered its worst attack since the Yom Kippur War. Last Saturday, the Jewish people suffered the worst pogrom since the Second World War.

A real pogrom. The likes we have seen only perpetrated by the nazis and the mobs in the Middle Ages that salivated for Jewish blood which they blamed for all their sorrows.

Entire families were shot in their beds, Girls and women were raped and then killed, hundreds were taken hostage, including babies, women, and the elderly, and as just released, dozens of babies were decapitated in their nurseries.

After 30 years of Israel bending over backwards to make "Peace", Arabs decided that the old rules apply.

The unparalleled barbarity shocked the world, at least for now. Not even Al-Qaeda or the Islamic State descended so low. But according to their side, this is all Israel`s fault, because of the "occupation".

What occupation?


Fact: since the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem there has been a continuous Jewish presence in the land of Israel, especially in Jerusalem, Hebron, and Tiberias.

Fact: There was no occupation at the time of the pogrom of 1929 in Hebron. There was also no occupation at the time Yasser Arafat created the PLO in 1964.

Fact: The 1964 constitution of the PLO explicitly excludes the Gaza Strip and the West Bank from their claim stating that it recognized the sovereignty of Egypt and Jordan to these areas which they retained for only 19 years.

Anybody willing to spend half a day on internet can convince themself that:
(a) The Land was empty (cf. any wester travelers in 19th century) outside 4 cities before Jewish emigration started in 19th century.
(b) Massive Arab immigration - taking advantage of the opportunities created by Jewish rebuilding of the land - occured under the British mandate (cf. From time immemorial).
(c) Most "Palestinian Refugees" - or their forefathers, never been anywhere near Israel (see Ottoman census of 1882, the current number of Arabs claiming Palestinian descent, and calculate the necessary growth rate).
(d) The actual numbers of Arab refugees match the number of Jewish refugees from the Arab world. And, since the extent of Arab lands exceed Israel by a factor of (approx) 2000, could've easily been absorbed - for a fraction of what Arab war on Israel ('Peace Process" = is just war by other means) cost.


Fact: Israel withdrew completely from Gaza in 2005 under the promise that the Arabs would transform the Strip into the next Riviera of the Middle East. To that end, they even built an airport, and the traffic between Gaza and Israel was open.

Fact: In 2006 Hamas made several incursions into Israel and in June it abducted the soldier Gilad Shalit. In the same year, the people of Gaza elected Hamas to govern them. In 2007 Israel and Egypt imposed a blockage to the Strip.

Fact: Billions of dollars in cash and goods were transferred to Hamas over the years.

Fact: Hamas spent the cash building rockets, and tunnels and eliminating members of the Fatah and other opposition. Not one power station was built. Not one water treatment plant was built, and the sewage system was neglected Hamas never wanted to build a country. They always had only one purpose: the destruction of the State of Israel..

...Israel cannot have such fundamentalism in its borders. This time Israel cannot accept a tie. Israel must win and destroy Hamas, its tunnels, its capabilities, and its members. To this end, Israel must stop behaving like the most moral army in the world to be the most lethal army in the world.
Obviously, Israel will not be allowed to win. Which means, our long term plans should focus on destroying Arab pseudo-civilization.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 02:33 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  our long term plans should focus on destroying Arab pseudo-civilization

Damn right.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/18/2023 3:31 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm praying for God to allow Israel to completly wipe out the Hamas!
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Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 10/18/2023 6:34 Comments || Top||

#3  ^ Same, SCFI. Israel needs our prayers. They've needed them for quite a while now.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/18/2023 8:04 Comments || Top||

#4  there are no civilians in gaza. level it.
Posted by: irish rage boy || 10/18/2023 10:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Hamas is a movement where atrocity and slaughter are policy. Negotiation and reconciliation is not an option. You don’t at off Hannibal Lector-with a gallbladder or appendix.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/18/2023 12:43 Comments || Top||


Israeli lessons for Russia
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
by Petr Akopov

[RIA] Even just ten days after the start of a new escalation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, we can already talk about the lessons that Russia has learned from it for itself. All of them relate to Israel, which for many years has been presented to us as an example to follow. We were offered to “learn from Israel”, to do as he did in several directions at once.

The first myth: Israel successfully fights terrorists, any threat to its security, destroying those it deems necessary almost anywhere in the world. That's why they fear him and he will win.

The reality turns out to be completely different. Israel decides completely arbitrarily who is a terrorist and who is not: now everyone could be convinced that not only the Israeli leadership, but also the majority of Israeli society considers the entire population of Gaza of 2.5 million “terrorist accomplices” and is preparing for genocide, that is to the destruction and occupation of the region, accompanied by the eviction of most of the inhabitants of the sector, which was under blockade for a decade and a half.

The methods of action of the Israeli intelligence services and armed settlers (who are occupiers both for the Palestinians and from the point of view of international law) towards the Palestinian population also cannot be called anything other than provoking terror with a subsequent disproportionate response. Just look at the statistics of casualties in previous conflicts (intifadas, that is, Palestinian uprisings, operations against the Gaza Strip or invasions of Lebanon ) - everywhere the ratio will be 1:30, 1:50 in favor of Israel.

The entire territory of former British Palestine is home to 14 million people, half of whom are Jews and half are Arabs. And only two out of seven million Arabs have Israeli citizenship; all the rest are humiliatingly dependent (in terms of human rights, economics, etc.) on Israel.

What Israel calls “the fight against terrorism” is very often a fight against guerrillas, against desperate people resisting decades of occupation, and only partly a real fight against terror. Moreover, the methods of this struggle - and its absolutely arbitrary interpretation - do not reduce the threat to Israel, but only increase it in the future. The Israeli fight against terror, along with Israel's refusal to create a Palestinian state, are perhaps the main sources of so-called Islamic terrorism.

If Russia imitated Israel, then we should have simply destroyed Chechnya, liquidating it as a subject of the Federation and evicting all Chechens. Naturally, Russia never intended to do this, and in the fight against terrorists hiding behind Islam, we never stooped to Islamophobia. Although this is exactly what we were pushed towards by those who called for us to follow the example of Israel, talking about “not only the anti-Jewish, but also anti-Christian, anti-European orientation inherent in Islam.” Russia is home to many peoples who profess Islam, and imitating Israel would be suicidal for us.

Just like the Israeli manner of launching missile attacks on Arab countries (now they are striking Syria and Lebanon, and in the 80s they bombed nuclear facilities in Iraq ), killing Iranian nuclear physicists and conducting targeted “retaliation operations” against the Palestinian leadership (naturally, declared terrorist) around the world can seem effective only to those who do not think about the future.

The balance of power between Israel and the Arab countries will not always be in favor of the Jewish state - and it’s not even that the absolute support of Tel Aviv from the United States is not guaranteed. The Arab world is now divided and divided, but its score against Israel is only growing, as is the score of the entire Islamic world of 1.5 billion. Only a madman can hope that it will never be presented for payment.

If Russia behaved with its neighbors in the same way as Israel, we would have already carried out more than one special operation in Ukraine (which is our homeland, simply lost and has become a toy in the hands of external forces), but would have ruined relations with all our neighbors in East and South . This does not mean that Russia should not defend its interests more firmly in the post-Soviet space, but we consider ourselves responsible for it, unlike Israel, which views itself as a besieged fortress in a hostile environment, but at the same time endlessly provokes its neighbors (taking advantage of the presence of the American " roof").

Second myth: Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people, in which they are the real master, have all the rights and protection, and are governed by a patriotic and nationally oriented elite. And Russia needs to take an example: we must become a state of the Russian people - with Russian culture, way of life and elite.

The reality is that Israeli laws and the atmosphere in society (if we take only its Jewish part) are indeed extremely nationalistic, it would be more correct to even say chauvinistic. The cult of superiority (racial, cultural, intellectual, etc.) of Jews over Arabs permeates it from top to bottom - and is only partly explained by the need to oust from the national memory the injustice that was shown to the Palestinians expelled from their lands. The feeling of one’s own chosenness, the right to “this land” and other ultra-chauvinistic attitudes are not considered something reprehensible in Israel - on the contrary, the entire ideology of this state is built on this.

Moreover, it is the main bond of the entire Jewish society, which is split in most other positions (Sephardim and Ashkenazim, religious Jews and the huge LGBT community are just the brightest poles of this split). Moreover, this conviction in God’s own chosenness, in messianism, is the main problem of Israel, because it is not just its weak point, but also a sure guarantee of its doom to defeat. After all, the entire existence of the current model of Israel (which denies the right of the Palestinians to create their own state and does not want to create “one state of two peoples”) depends on the existence of another messianic state - the United States (created by Puritan-Calvinists as a new “promised land”). The states lay claim to world dominance, and in the course of the collapse of their ambitions, their junior partner (including in “messiahism”), Israel, will inevitably suffer.

In Russia, the Russian people are not just state-forming: our state itself is the form of existence of the Russian people. At the same time, the country is truly multinational, and after the collapse of the USSR , the rights of Russians were not only not properly secured: the “privatization” of state property and the change in the economic structure played into the hands of representatives of various national minorities, among whom, by the way, Jews occupied an impressive percentage. Russians really felt slighted, insulted and humiliated, but when in 2000 Putin proclaimed “Glory to Russia!” (words previously unimaginable in the mouth of the country’s leader), the situation began to change.

Yes, we had a huge bias in the cultural and educational sphere, in business, in favor of not even non-Russians, but “people without nationality”, who considered patriotism, love for their people, pride in their history to be wrong and almost shameful, but this is gradually being corrected.

Russia is finding itself, and with all the problems with the birth rate, with legal and illegal migration, the Russian spirit increasingly determines the direction of the country. At the same time, he has that same “worldwide responsiveness,” that is, he does not put himself above other peoples, including those whose homeland is in Russia. Russians value their history, blood, culture, civilization, but do not turn into chauvinists, do not consider other peoples living side by side with them to be beasts or underdeveloped. The blossoming complexity of Russian civilization cannot be compared with the primitive chauvinism of the Jewish state, not to mention the prospects that Russia has and which, through its own fault, Israel does not have. We do not need to imitate anyone, especially since our own rich historical experience gives us a wide variety of examples of mistakes and achievements, falls and breakthroughs. From them we will learn to live on our land.

Posted by: badanov || 10/18/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [15 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Зачем мне считаться шпаной и бандитом .
Не лучше ль податься мне в антисемиты:
На их стороне хоть и нету законов, -
Поддержка и энтузиазм миллионов.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 0:24 Comments || Top||

#2  ^Translation
Why should I be considered a worthless petty criminal
When I can join the Anti-Semites
True, they're formally illigal,
But they enjoy enthusiastic support of the masses
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 2:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Actually, Israel can learn from Russia:
Not their overall strategy - we're not an imperial nation and have no wish to become one.
But IDF should learn their use of artillery.
Note on translation: "corrects" in English version stands for "directs"
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 4:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds like good music for drinking vodka.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/18/2023 12:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Of course you love artillery best, Grom. ;-) I don’t disagree — quantity having a quality all it’s own, as ‘tis said, and there are absolutely times when expensive precision is not the way to go.

But I would like to again point out that only a few years ago the Russian hooligan in the tank song was partying and training with Ukrainian hooligans — all of them white supremacists together, except for the ones from both nations who called themselves neo-Nazi — in St. Petersburg under the benevolent eye of the FSB.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/18/2023 14:34 Comments || Top||

#6  TW, the song was just to illustrate Russian love for artillery.
Mind you, I do support Russia vs. Ukraine - but that's for a very practical reason: In monopolar world Israel is an embarrassment to Washington DC. In multipolar world a valuable asset.

Don't take my word for it, look at the difference in USG attitudes between the current & the previous Israel-Gaza clashes.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/18/2023 15:09 Comments || Top||



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