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Why? I thought they switched over to sacrificing humans.
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Read the story, folks. Turn on that movie projector in your heads and let it roll... Having seen the results first-hand of sheep slaughter Muslim-style (no, not in Mecca on the hajj), I assure you the cleanup is, um, a substantial undertaking. I saw my first example on a beach. Picture walking a white sand beach... the gentle waves of the Persian Gulf lapping the shoreline... and stumbling across the remains of a ritual sheep slaughter from the night before. 30 feet of blood-red sand and the majority of the animal carcass left bloating in the sun, entrails all over. Indeed, it was clear evidence of higher beings at work... made my ancient red-man blood boil. It was a peach of a roadtrip.
Recruiters working for U.S. contractors are hiring former Colombian soldiers — and luring away active-duty ones — for security jobs in Iraq, according to a former army officer who met with the recruiters. Colombia is a member of President Bush's "coalition of the willing" in Iraq, although it hasn't sent any troops. Its troops instead are battling a 40-year-old Marxist insurgency with U.S. aid on its own turf. But now, instead of Colombian troops on the ground in Iraq, former Colombian soldiers are going as contractors — and earning up to $8,000 monthly.
That's some fairly heavy scratch...
Efforts have been made in several Latin American countries to recruit contractors for Iraq, but Colombia's conflict, pitting leftist rebels against right-wing paramilitaries, presents special complications. The recruitment drive here comes as the outlawed paramilitary groups are demobilizing. Suddenly the fighters — many of them former Colombian army soldiers — are finding themselves out of work after waging a dirty war of massacres and assassinations against rebels and their suspected collaborators.
They should feel right at home in Mosul and the Triange of Death. Send a few to Ramadi, too...
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Paying $8000.00 a month to save American lives. Wiping out Columbia's most wanted and maybe taking a few Islamonazi's with them.
Priceless
New Zealand's top military unit, the Special Air Service, has been honoured by US President George W. Bush for its involvement in the war in Afghanistan.
The New Zealand Government last night confirmed that the secretive SAS unit received a unit citation and a personal commendation for its commander, Lieutenant Colonel Peter Kelly, from the United States.
The Government has been tight-lipped about SAS involvement in the conflict.
Defence Force press officer Commander Sandy McKie last night confirmed that President Bush presented the citation to the SAS. She said Colonel Kelly received it in San Diego.
Helen Clark's spokesman, Mike Munro, said the Defence Force told the Prime Minister's office about the award a week ago. He did not know whether she planned to make a public announcement.
The LawFuel.com website reported that President Bush gave the award on December 7 in recognition of the SAS contribution to the American-led war in Afghanistan.
LawFuel, an independent international news service for lawyers run from New Zealand, said the unit citation was given by President Bush to members of the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, consisting of units from the United States, New Zealand, Canada, Denmark, Germany and Norway.
Helen Clark said in March that an SAS unit would carry out direct action and long-range reconnaissance missions during a six-month tour of duty in Afghanistan.
She said in the first week of April that up to 50 SAS troops had gone to Afghanistan.
The Prime Minister has consistently refused to reveal the scope of SAS activity in Afghanistan. But documents leaked from Defence Force headquarters in May said the troops would take part in combat missions under the control of American forces.
Their activities would include quick strikes and other small-scale offensive operations. They would also engage in raids, ambushes, direct assaults, attacks from the air, ground or sea, guide "precision weaponry", and conduct independent sabotage and "anti-ship" operations.
The SAS troops would help American forces to assess enemy activities, secure data on particular areas and engage in post-strike reconnaissance.
A little more information about the SAS unit came when two of its soldiers were wounded in Afghanistan in June during a pre-dawn raid with other forces. A unit commander revealed that the forces were operating on their own in and were "a long, long way from the normal conventional forces".
Mr Munro said it was unlikely President Bush's award would result in more information being revealed.
National Party defence spokesman John Carter said he did not know about the award, but it came as no surprise.
"They are outstanding individuals who have done us proud," he said. It was great that another country had recognised their contribution.
The Green Party's defence spokesman, Keith Locke, said the award put the Government in an embarrassing position. It highlighted New Zealand's involvement in a "dirty war" fought alongside American troops.
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Let's see - a nation's head of state commits ground troops to the service of an ally. These troops perform exceptionally well, well enough to earn a Presidential Unit Citation. Local Greens are then embarrassed by this. What asshats.
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Gromky,
It's even worse. The citation is for actions in AFGHANISTAN!,the base for Al-Q. Afghanistan is the country where even the French and Germans sent troops. And the local Greens call it a "dirty war". Sheeesh.
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12/17/2004 21:56 Comments ||
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It's easy to be sanctimonious when you know any enemy would have to go through the US and Australia to get to you.
Losers.
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This is a dirty war only if one accepts Islamo-fascist propaganda at face value, which in turn requires full acceptance of the mind-numbingly hypocritical standards behind it.
This removes any doubt that the Greens are sympathetic to international terrorism and hope to profit from its success.
They are the enemy.
New Zealand Foreign Minister Phil Goff says Australia's plan to boost its maritime security appears to be within international laws. There had been some concern Australia might be offending countries in the region.
And we can't have that now, can we?
Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs (DFAT) says there has been a misunderstanding and Australia's new zone will go to the maximum of 1,000 nautical miles, only if there is no other border or jurisdiction. The spokesman says the zone will in no way impinge on New Zealand's sovereignty or other neighbouring states. Mr Goff says he is satisfied the plan does not impinge on New Zealand's sovereignty.
Earlier another minister in the Government expressed surprise Australian officials had not told New Zealand about the move to impose a 1,000 nautical mile security zone. Mr Goff says there is no issue since all countries are bound by the law of the sea. "I imagine Australia, like New Zealand, will continue to operate under that law and not outside of it," he said. The matter will be raised at talks between the countries foreign ministers this weekend.
The Federal Opposition says the Government has made a diplomatic blunder by failing to tell New Zealand about the planned maritime security zone. Labor's defence spokesman Robert McClelland says that shows the Government rushed the announcement in an attempt to appear tough on security issues. "Essentially what the announcement was yesterday was the establishment of a reporting zone, as opposed to a patrolling zone," he said.
"As New Zealand pointed out, if it was the latter, that is there was a proposal to patrol out to 1,000 nautical miles, then the Australian Navy would be patrolling the South Island of New Zealand, which is just complete and utter rubbish." Australia rushed to brief neighbours on the plan to create the maritime zone. This afternoon, Australia's Foreign Affairs Department announced it had briefed the New Zealand High Commission in Canberra.
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"As New Zealand pointed out, if it was the latter, that is there was a proposal to patrol out to 1,000 nautical miles, then the Australian Navy would be patrolling the South Island of New Zealand, which is just complete and utter rubbish."
What is it with these free riding younger sibling colonies like New Zealand and Canada? They not only do far too little to defend themselves, let alone the free world, but then they have to shove their thumb in the eye of their responsible elder who carries the entire burden.
I used to think that they were just taking advantage of the situation and that when push came to shove they would show up with the finest fighting men in the world as they always have; albeit expecting us to provide their weapons and supplies. But now with jerks like Clark and Martin actively frustrating eforts to establish effective colective security, I'm begining to wonder.
I'm starting to wonder if it was such a good idea for the pig who built his house of bricks to have added the extra bedrooms.
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New Zeland is a beacon to hippies, peace creeps and diptards round the world. They have plenty of room. I suggest they all imigrate. Then they can have a big happy island of love. They don't need an Army, Navy or Air Force. Everyone will love them and leave them alone. Ask their PM Clark. She will confirm this for you.
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New Zealand Herald:
"By MARTIN JOHNSTON and JULIET ROWAN
New Zealand's top military unit, the Special Air Service, has been honoured by US President George W. Bush for its involvement in the war in Afghanistan.
The New Zealand Government last night confirmed that the secretive SAS unit received a unit citation and a personal commendation for its commander, Lieutenant Colonel Peter Kelly, from the United States.
The Government has been tight-lipped about SAS involvement in the conflict.
Defence Force press officer Commander Sandy McKie last night confirmed that President Bush presented the citation to the SAS. She said Colonel Kelly received it in San Diego.
Helen Clark's spokesman, Mike Munro, said the Defence Force told the Prime Minister's office about the award a week ago. He did not know whether she planned to make a public announcement.
The LawFuel.com website reported that President Bush gave the award on December 7 in recognition of the SAS contribution to the American-led war in Afghanistan.
LawFuel, an independent international news service for lawyers run from New Zealand, said the unit citation was given by President Bush to members of the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, consisting of units from the United States, New Zealand, Canada, Denmark, Germany and Norway.
Helen Clark said in March that an SAS unit would carry out direct action and long-range reconnaissance missions during a six-month tour of duty in Afghanistan.
She said in the first week of April that up to 50 SAS troops had gone to Afghanistan.
The Prime Minister has consistently refused to reveal the scope of SAS activity in Afghanistan. But documents leaked from Defence Force headquarters in May said the troops would take part in combat missions under the control of American forces.
Their activities would include quick strikes and other small-scale offensive operations. They would also engage in raids, ambushes, direct assaults, attacks from the air, ground or sea, guide "precision weaponry", and conduct independent sabotage and "anti-ship" operations.
The SAS troops would help American forces to assess enemy activities, secure data on particular areas and engage in post-strike reconnaissance.
A little more information about the SAS unit came when two of its soldiers were wounded in Afghanistan in June during a pre-dawn raid with other forces. A unit commander revealed that the forces were operating on their own in and were "a long, long way from the normal conventional forces".
Mr Munro said it was unlikely President Bush's award would result in more information being revealed.
National Party defence spokesman John Carter said he did not know about the award, but it came as no surprise.
"They are outstanding individuals who have done us proud," he said. It was great that another country had recognised their contribution. "
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LH - good example that within any sadsack leadership, some heroes remain. Good for W for recognizing them as well. A lot like the Canadian snipers, eh?
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For Radical Islam to do nothing ags CANADA would be a strong hint to any experienced Cold War analyst that something is up or is being planned for that nation, albeit is not absolute! Moreso if one believes, as I do, that Radical Islam is merely PC diversionist mercs for Leftism-Socialism-Communism, and iff and should something occur ags the USA-Canada/NORAM, Washington and Western civilization will need capable, strong Allies like Australia-NZ, et al. to WATCH ITS BACK. DAMN GOOD THING FOR THE WEST DUBYA ESTABLISHED NORTHERN COMMAND [NORCOM]!
A Pakistani man was sentenced to 12 years in jail by an Australian court on Thursday for smuggling hundreds of would-be asylum seekers to Australia. Hasan Ayoub, 34, sent two boatloads of people to Australia's Christmas Island in the Indian Ocean in March and April 2001. Each had paid a passage fee of up to $12,000, the court heard. Ayoub was convicted in the Western Australian District Court in November on two counts of people smuggling.
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Australian spy agency ASIO'S controversial powers to detain and question suspected terrorists will be re-examined by a parliamentary committee. Parliament passed the new counter-terrorism powers in July last year. In the first 12 months, ASIO used them only three times to hold people for questioning, with the longest interrogation taking 42 hours and 36 minutes. The chairman of the parliamentary committee overseeing ASIO, David Jull, says that is no big surprise. "It's not as though it's a continual flow of people being rounded up and questioned," he said. "They can only be brought in for questioning with a warrant and the agencies have to have pretty substantial reasons to be able to detain a person for questioning. "They are very strict powers. The governing of those powers is also very strict." But Mr Jull says it is important to consider if there have been any problems or complaints, and whether the governing legislation could be improved. He says the committee will hold public hearings and will report by the end of next year.
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From the Wall Street Journal. Req's registration. Posted in full. DeVillepain hopes to control flood of jihad-supporting funds from abroad (read Saudi Arabia, among others), but this conflicts with the government's desire to generate business with those countries, a difficult dilemma.
Money is the oil of ideological warfare. With fortunes, one can buy and corrupt the souls of the faithful. Like other Western societies, France is discovering that it lets cash gush uncontrolled into its mosques and charities at its own peril.
So last week Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin announced the creation of a state-supervised "Foundation for Islam in France." By next April, this institution will manage financial contributions from Muslims abroad. The European Court of Justice forbids EU countries from blocking the flow of donations, wherever they come from. The idea here is not to stop the money from getting to France from the Muslim world, but to better regulate it -- to separate the wheat from the chaff, distinguish support for legitimate educational and religious causes from support for jihad.
For too long, radicals in the Middle East and beyond have been able to spread their views in a free and open Europe. Islamist groups hand out poisonous gifts to Muslim associations that, often penniless, accept them without asking too many questions. The problem is that those who hand out the money end up with control of Muslim organizations and mosques in France.
Until now, the French state had handled cases one by one. By coincidence, two advisers to the interior minister had an appointment at the Saudi Embassy in Paris on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, to discuss support given by the Al-Haramein Foundation to a Paris mosque. Since then, the U.S. has blacklisted Al-Haramein for its links to al Qaeda. That's good tactics, but not much of a strategy.
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France has recognized the challenge posed by violent Muslim fundamentalists in at home since a series of terrorist attacks in Paris in the mid-1990s. Now Spain, after the Madrid train bombings, and the Netherlands, after last month's murder of Theo van Gogh, are also moving more seriously against this threat. But why do all these European countries meet difficulties in putting in place their ambitious plans? Simply put, the fight against the Islamists often comes into direct conflict with other government priorities.
Let's take the example of Saudi Arabia and France. For nearly a decade, Paris has been negotiating a â¬7 billion contract with Riyadh to provide the kingdom with border-protection services. French authorities are clearly wary of spitting on such a market and the jobs that would come with it by seeming to be overly critical of foreign sponsors of domestic Muslim groups. No senior French politician will ever criticize King Fahd or Crown Prince Abdullah for allowing stoning in Saudi Arabia. In fact, in October 2002, then-Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy -- a politician to whom a great future has been promised -- received with great honors the general secretary of the Islamic World League, Abdullah al-Turki, a supporter of the fundamentalist Wahhabi strain of Islam that holds Western values in contempt and whose dream is to introduce Sharia law to the heart of Europe.
In most EU countries, foreign policy seems to set the agenda for interior security policy. The idea of a "French Islam," constantly put forward by the government, is a vast masquerade. Though it would be absurd and criminal to regard French Muslims as some sort of a fifth column, it remains a problem that every Muslim institution in France has links with foreign powers, and, more often than not, tight ones. France has believed for too long that it could let the countries of origin keep their emigrant communities under their control. At the headquarters of Muslim organizations in France, businessmen, diplomats and secret agents from the Middle East and North Africa -- where most French Arabs hail from -- are omnipresent.
The other large group, the National Federation of Muslims in France (FNMF), which won the most votes in the 2003 election held in mosques for the new French Muslim council, is intimately linked to Morocco. Agents of His Majesty in Rabat try to play the puppet masters, as people familiar with that organization have noticed. Recently, the president of the federation, sent by France to Iraq to help with the ultimately unsuccessful attempt to free two French journalists taken hostage there, committed the mistake of visiting a hotel in Doha to kiss the forehead of Abassi Madani, the founder of the Algerian Islamic Front of Salvation, the ultra-radical movement. To the government in Algiers, it seemed as if this Frenchman of Moroccan origin, one of the most important representatives of "French Islam," had somehow wished to irritate them and show favor to Rabat.
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More "moderate" federations are no different. The government in Ankara runs and holds the purse strings for the Turkish-Islamic Union of Theological Affairs (DITIB), the main organization for Muslim Turks in France.
At the Paris Mosque, the oldest and most venerable institution of Islam in France, Algeria remains the lord of the land. The Algerian regime achieved a sort of associative "coup" when it took over the place in 1982. "We are at home here," the former French colony's religion minister said back in 1989. Since 2003, the mosque's rector, Dalil Boubakeur, has presided over the council that represents Islam in France. But until a few years ago, a colonel from the Algerian military security services was writing, or at least controlling, some of his speeches.
This is the reason it is so difficult for France to cut off the pipelines of shadowy money from the Arab world. The creation of the foundation is merely another half-measure by a government only half-committed to fight this menace. By wishing to avoid any quarrel, successive governments have allowed a threat to the Republic to grow unchallenged on its own territory. Dominique de Villepin's entourage insists that foreign countries are interested in the foundation he is planning. And delegates from the French state will sit on its administration board. But it will take a constant and flawless will to prevent France from being contaminated yet again by the disease of Islamism. Placebos aren't enough to eradicate epidemics.
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*scoff* This all sounds very nice - but considering the players, I'm guessing this is just amother way for them to get a nice cut from that Large Pool Of Money(TM) flowing in.
Turkey will be an Islamic "Trojan Horse" inside the European Union if it is allowed to join the bloc, to the advantage of Al Qaeda terror chief Osama bin Laden and other extremists, Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi said in an interview with Italian radio reported on Thursday. "The Islamic world, including Islamic extremists up to bin Laden, is rejoicing at Turkey's entry. It is their Trojan horse," Qaddafi was quoted as saying by the daily La Repubblica in extracts from the RAI interview published before its broadcast. Qaddafi said he had not opposed Turkey's EU membership but warned of its possible consequences. "I say only that there will be consequences from the entry of this Trojan horse," he added, without elaborating.
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ROFL!!! Torpedoed by Khadaffy hisownself, lol! Gul shoulda bought off all the mouthy Mo' guys, heh. Especially those that wear funny hats... I'm tellin' ya, those Hat Guyz need to be watched very very closely...
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Wow--maybe there's something therapeutic about being surrounded by hot bodyguard babes that lets clear thinking and logic take root. Good on ya, Mo'!
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Hey EU when MO MO starts towing the mark against Islamonazi's you may want to back off the hooka-pipe. Turkey's a problem just like the rest of the hairnets.
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trtying to bait me into an Aris thread, Kalle? LOL
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At the Helsinki European Council, Greece sold its longstanding objections over Turkey's entry, with Cyprus's admission into the Union as the price.
I think it was a deal VERY well made, especially since Greek objections weren't needed when French ones will do ever so nicely.
Not to mention that if it wasn't for that lying crook, Tassos Papadopoulos, we'd also have gotten a reunified Cyprus in the deal -- but I guess that was the Cypriots' choice.
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I'm still not sure I understand the purpose of Turkey in the EU. I get the distinct impression that the EU is meant to be a superstate on a federal pattern, somewhat like the US model. But a country is more than just a system of common regulations. Sooner or later it is necessary to make some sacrifices for the common good, and you need to have some sense of a common bond. This can be a common tribal identity, common "race," common shared history or language, common religion, or common 'secular' culture (emphasis on CULT in culture) or some combination. Japan unites around a common race and shared history, the US united around a common secular culture and eventually a shared history. I'm not sure just how united India is.
If the EU were simply a grand trading zone, there'd be nothing odd about adding Turkey. But I'm not quite sure how far even the existing states share the same culture, let alone Turkey, which doesn't have an even remotely similar religious tradition. And religion is a fundamental component of culture.
The EU is an interesting experiment; trying to create a country out of a voluntary empire. By comparison creating the US was a peice of cake--we started off with relatively little history of internal conflict, similar versions of the same religion, and a pretty widely accepted secular mission. And even so we suffered from a little set-to about 140 years ago.
A little thought-experiment: would a Danish citizen feel threatened by a bandit attack in Turkey, and be willing to help stop them? Would a Turk feel threatened by an IRA bombing in London?
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Jimmy Walter has spent more than $3 million promoting a conspiracy theory the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States were "an inside job" and he is offering more cash to anyone who proves him wrong.
The millionaire activist is so convinced of a government cover-up he is offering a $100,000 reward to any engineering student who can prove the World Trade Center buildings crashed the way the government says. "Of course, we expect no winners," Walter, 57, heir to an $11 million fortune from his father's home building business, said in a telephone interview from California on Wednesday.
He said a panel of like-minded fools expert engineers would judge submissions from the students.
Next month, he also launches a nationwide contest seeking alternative theories from college and high school students about why New York's World Trade Center collapsed. The contest offers $10,000 to the best alternative theory, with 100 runner-up awards of $1,000. Winners will be chosen next June.
The World Trade Center's twin towers were destroyed after hijackers slammed two commercial airliners into them. The attack in New York killed 2,749 people.
That statements sorta works against him, doesn't it?
Various official investigations give no credence to Walter's theory. A Sept. 11 commission spokesman did not return calls seeking comment.
Walter insists there had to be explosives planted in the twin towers to cause them to fall as they did, and also rejects the official explanation for the damage done at the Pentagon. "We have all the proof," said Walter, citing videotapes and testimony from witnesses. "It wasn't 19 screw-ups from Saudi Arabia who couldn't pass flight school who defeated the United States with a set of box cutters," he said. He dismissed the official Sept. 11 commission report, saying, "I don't trust any of these 'facts.'"
Walter has spent millions of dollars to bolster support for his case, running full-page ads in The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, The New Yorker and Newsweek, as well as alternative newspapers and 30-second TV spots.
Perhaps he should buy some BlogAds? Okay, a lot of BlogAds?
He points to a Zogby poll he commissioned last summer that showed 66 percent of New Yorkers wanted the 9/11 investigation reopened.
Walter has spent about 30 percent of his net worth on his efforts.
Keep spending, Walter, I see a natural end to this.
"I am a patriot fighting the real traitors who are destroying our democracy. I resent it when they call me delusional," he said.
"Who do they think they are, calling me nuts?"
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These guy sounds like he knows where the Hologram projector was beaming from. Next he'll stumble to the fact that the holograms were just cover to hide the fact that the towers were teleported Antares 4.
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"The contest offers $10,000 to the best alternative theory..."
With all the talent we've got on this board we ought to go for it and give the money to Spirit of America. I'm guessing Mucky could come up with something totally unanticipated, and that.com could come up with ten theories in one post. I think at a minimum the winner will have to include the Trilateral Commission, the Carlyle Group, Halliburton, PETA, and the Mossad.
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An Iraq war veteran who was part of the original invasion force went public yesterday with allegations that Sen. John McCain snubbed the troops when he visited the front lines during the early days of the occupation - while noting that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld routinely met with GIs during repeated visits to the war zone.
Identified only by his first name, Iraq GI Dan described the McCain visit during an unsolicited call to Sean Hannity's ABC Radio Network broadcast - saying he was upset that the Arizona Republican was accusing Rumsfeld of being oblivious to the concerns of troops on the ground.
"I had to let you know about this because I really don't think too many people know," the GI caller told Hannity. "McCain comes over and we do this whole big reception thing. It's 140-something degrees out. Soldiers are standing at attention outside, waiting for this guy to come."
The Iraq vet said that when McCain finally arrived, he "[didn't] say a single word to any of the soldiers."
Instead, said GI Dan, McCain spent "about five minutes at our safehouse there. And then he leaves - he didn't talk to a single soldier that was actually there. ... He didn't ask a single one of us anything."
The Iraq GI said it's much different when Rumsfeld visits Iraq.
"Every time [he] has gone over there - whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, wherever - he's always made a point of talking to as many soldiers as he can; from a private, a low-ranking soldier, all the way up [the chain of command]."
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is that their ideas about politics are not the product of rational thought and a concern for the common good. Their ideas are, very simply, the product of burning anger, a sense of perpetual hurt and victimhood. And that is why they have become so much like the left. The author is imputing motives to his opponents, which perpetuates the 'people who disagree with me are evil conspiracists' mindset. Politics should be a debate about outcomes and means to outcomes undertaken by well intentioned people. Once you lose that and go off into wacky conspiracies, you are lost to the debate.
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Excerpt from conclusion: "...liberals... need their moral superiority like oxygen, and they cannot have it cut off by mere facts."
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Americans politically redefine "morality" and "ethics". "Ethics" are seen as a politician obeying the law, and creating and enforcing laws based upon what society wants, within the self-imposed limits of the Constitution. Ethics is an objective thing. "Morality", however, is seen as subjective ethics, varying between religions, sects and philosophical belief systems. For this reason, Americans tend to be distrustful of those politicians who run on "morality" issues. What exactly do they represent? A secular, modernist, even agnostic belief system; a harsh, fundamentalist theocratic order; someone comfortably orthodox but agreeable with the coexistence of religion and government; or an atheist-Marxist, prudish and fanatical? Each of these can claim "morality", after a fashion, and with greater or lesser honesty; but if they claim to be "ethical", and are not accused of crimes or arrested, the assumption is that they *are* "ethical".
NEARLY half of all Americans believe the US government should restrict the civil liberties of Muslim Americans, according to a nationwide poll.
The survey conducted by Cornell University also found that Republicans and people who described themselves as highly religious were more apt to support curtailing Muslims' civil liberties than Democrats or people who are less religious.
Researchers also found that respondents who paid more attention to television news were more likely to fear terrorist attacks and support limiting the rights of Muslim Americans.
The survey found 44 per cent favoured at least some restrictions on the civil liberties of Muslim Americans. Forty-eight per cent said liberties should not be restricted in any way.
The survey showed 27 per cent of respondents supported requiring all Muslim Americans to register where they lived with the federal government. Twenty-two per cent favoured racial profiling to identify potential terrorist threats. And 29 per cent thought undercover agents should infiltrate Muslim civic and volunteer organisations to keep checks on their activities and fundraising.
"It's sad news. It's disturbing news. But it's not unpredictable," said Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society. "The nation is at war, even if it's not a traditional war. We just have to remain vigilant and continue to interface."
Cornell student researchers questioned 715 people in the nationwide telephone poll. The margin of error was 3.6 percentage points.
James Shanahan, an associate professor of communications who helped organise the survey, said the results indicate "the need for continued dialogue about issues of civil liberties" in a time of war.
While researchers said they were not surprised by the overall level of support for curtailing civil liberties, they were startled by the correlation with religion and exposure to television news.
"We need to explore why these two very important channels of discourse may nurture fear rather than understanding," Shanahan said.
According to the survey, 37 per cent believe a terrorist attack in the United States is still likely within the next 12 months. In a similar poll conducted by Cornell in November 2002, that number stood at 90 per cent.
Washington, DC, Dec. 16 (UPI) -- The number of annual military desertions is down to the lowest level since before 2001, according to the Pentagon. The Army said the number of new deserters in 2004 -- 2,376 -- was just half the number of those who deserted prior to Sept. 11, 2001. That number was 4,597.
The numbers of deserters has dropped annually since the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington. The fiscal year 2004 total number of Army deserters is the lowest since before 1998, according to Army data. Cumulatively, more than 6,000 service members from all branches have deserted the military since fiscal year 2003, when the war with Iraq began. About 3,500 military service members have deserted their jobs in the last 14 months.
"On average the number of soldiers, for example, who are classified as deserters is less than 1 percent, and the vast majority have committed some criminal act," said Pentagon spokesman Army Lt. Col. Joe Richard. "It's (generally) not for political or conscientious objector purposes. Any insinuation that large numbers of military service members have deserted in opposition to the war in Iraq when in fact desertion numbers for the Army are down since 9/11 is incredibly disingenuous."
That would be in reference to Brad Knickerbocker's story from yesterday
The CBS program "60 Minutes" on Dec. 8 reported on at least three deserters who fled to Canada because they did not want to fight in Iraq: Marine Pfc. Dan Felushko, Army soldiers Brandon Hughey, and Spc. Jeremy Hinzman. They will have to make their case to the Canadian Immigration and Refugee Board to be allowed to stay. The Army convicted Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia in May on charges he abandoned his unit in the middle of the war in Iraq. The Marine Corps charged Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun with desertion on Dec. 10. He went missing from his base in Fallujah in June and later turned up an apparent hostage of Iraqi insurgents. He eventually made it to Lebanon and was returned to the Marine Corps.
Calculating the number of Marines who have deserted is complicated, because the Marine Corps carries on its books those who have deserted in previous years, according to Richard. The Marines count 1,297 deserters in fiscal year 2004 and 1,236 in fiscal year 2003. Roughly 623 AWOL Marines were returned to Marine control in 2003.
The Army counts 2,520 deserters in fiscal year 1998; 2,966 in 1999; 3,949 in 2000; 4,597 in 2001; 4,483 in 2002; and 3,678 in 2003.
The Marines count 1,297 deserters in 2004; 1,236 in 2003; 1,136 in 2002; 1,603 in 2001; and 1,574 in 2000.
The Air Force had considerably lower numbers of deserters: four so far in fiscal year 2005; 50 in 2004; 56 in 2003; 88 in 2002; 62 in 2001; 46 in 2000 and 45 in 1999.
The Navy did not return its data at press time.
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This is such a nothing story. Whether it's 5500 or whether it's 4500 equals the same thing-a miniscule percentage of the military desert. What's more relevant to point out to the general public is that desertions since the beginning of time happen every year, with a slight upward movement during wartime. Every large business has employees leaving on short notice or with no notice, and a large organization like the military is no different. But now the left will see an opening and they will come back with "but, but the Navy has not released their desertion numbers because obviuosly those numbers are soooo high" and then the DOD has to follow up with new numbers which will be printed on page 26 of the life style section and before you know it the important points that desertions are a fact of life and represent a miniscule percentage is lost in the war of numbers.
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If you think about it, there is always a percentage of the general population who just don't want to work. Why would the military population be any different? In some ways you would think the desertion ratio would be higher since a good number of people do actually join the military for lack of other alternatives. I guess what I am getting at is this: Less than 1% of the military population deserts even though it is one of the most stressful, thankless jobs around. More people than that leave their jobs at McDonalds. I had a point in there some where, but lost it. I'm brain-fried due to a huge IT project. So I'll shut up now and just say this:
Thanks to all our Troops and to their Spouses and Families! You make us a proud.
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That number still seems high to me if the term "desertion" as defined by Article 85 of the UCMJ is applied. The person would have to INTEND to permanently absent himself from his unit or quit his unit with intent to avoid hazardous duty or important service.
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In my 24 years in the Air Force, I had one guy desert. He got a "Dear John" letter from his girl friend and cracked. Went home to his folks, problem was his folks now lived in Canada. After a couple of months of talking to him on the phone, he gave himself up. Since he was a first termer, he got booted for "unable to conform".
The story also points out that a lot of these deserters bailed because of "criminal acts", meaning they bugged out before they were arrested for some other crime. That kind of skews the numbers, I'd be interested to see the data of what percentage that was. I'll wager it's over 50%.
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I [that is Robert Spencer] have never been overly impressed with the moderation of the self-professed moderate Muslims at the website known as Muslim Wakeup...
However, Muslim Wakeup now has other troubles: the site has been hacked by jihadists... Here is their message... It is directed at the staff of Muslim Wakeup, and is headed "Murtad Wakeup"...[murtad (murtadim-plural) = apostate in arabic]. Then it continues:
[below is the beginning of the message Muslim Wakeup got from their brothers in faith]
we are sorry....MWU is recieving a PENALTY from the Islamic 0xChallenge Brigades!! Bismallah Ar Rahman Ar-aheem due to the continues violation by Muslim Wake Up website and its vile attack on Islam for a long period of time we at the Islamic 0xChallenge Brigades decided to deliever a powerful message to the people behind this website and so we started with an attack on MWU forum , all praise be to Allah the attack was successful...
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The site, before anyone asks, was running FreeBSD.
Hard to believe a web hosting company would have FreeBSD server open enough they could be hacked like that.
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FreeBSD 'ships' ( it is a free download ) without ANY firewall of ANY kind. You must recompile the kernal to get firewall protection of any kind at all.
Also, FreeBSD 'ships' without anything other than the basic operating system, no editors (except for vi and edit) no nothing. You must put a ton of work into the OS in order to get stuff like a web-server or an ftp server running.
Sounds to me like the folks hosting this site didn't do any of that. Sounds like they just installed FreeBSD, installed a web server, and away they went. They had it coming, IMHO, but of course, that doesn't excuse the hackers who did this.
"â¢the system appeared to be of Russian or Eastern European origin."
then they said this
"There have been allegations in the past that senior UN officials were bugged during the run-up to the Iraq war by countries such as Britain and the United States."
No sense in that. It's an eastern device but the US and UK were to blame? Typical crap.
The UN General Assembly on Thursday unanimously adopted a resolution sponsored by Pakistan. The resolution called for the promotion of religious and cultural understanding, harmony and cooperation in the light of President Pervez Musharraf's concept of enlightened moderation. President Musharraf floated the idea of enlightened moderation in his speech to the 58th session of the United Nations General Assembly.
"Bartender! Warm milk for everyone!"
Twenty other countries, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Cape Verde, China, Costa Rica, Djibouti, Ecuador, Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Morocco, Panama, Timor Leste, Sudan, Tajikistan, Togo and Tunisia co-sponsored the resolution along with Pakistan. The resolution reaffirms the solemn commitment of all states to human rights and freedom according to the charter of the United Nations. The resolution calls on the US secretary general to publish material related to the resolution and discuss the topic at the next session of the General Assembly.
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If I escaped a few murder attempts, I too would be pursuing "enlightened moderation." But let's first moderate Binny and the Doc.
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Pervez Musharraf. Let me see.
A president for life of Pakistan who came to power by overthrowing the democratically elected goverment. Sponsor of Kashmiri terrorism the extent of which makes Paleosimians look like pikers, under whose rule Pakistan makes nuclear weapons technology available to Iran [have I forgoten something], calls for tolerance. Groovy.
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"Algeria, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Cape Verde, China, Costa Rica, Djibouti, Ecuador, Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Morocco, Panama, Timor Leste, Sudan, Tajikistan, Togo and Tunisia co-sponsored the resolution along with Pakistan."Now ain't that a buncha tolerant, harmonious people!
BANGKOK : Islamic militants were planning large-scale attacks in Bangkok and southern Thai provinces in January to mark the first anniversary of a violent separatist insurgency, a security source said. The attacks would be staged in the five southernmost provinces of Yala, Pattani, Narathiwat, Songkhla and Satun, as well as the capital Bangkok in order to promote the struggle for an independent Muslim state in the south of the predominantly Buddhist kingdom, he said.
"According to their plan the large-scale attacks, by means of remote control bombs in five provinces and Bangkok, would be prolonged and severe, as they have stockpiled lots of ammunition," the security source, assigned to work on southern violence, told AFP on condition of anonymity.
"The reason why they have to stage attacks in Bangkok is to prevent the central government from sending additional troops to the south," he added. The attacks were expected after the new year to mark the first anniversary of a bold January 4 raid by masked assailants on a military base in Narathiwat, he said.
The raid saw the assailants kill four soldiers and steal hundreds of assault rifles, while militants believed to be linked to the same movement torched about 20 state schools in the south on the same night. The event was widely seen as re-kindling a sporadic separatist insurgency that has rumbled for decades in the south, parts of which were an independent kingdom before being annexed by Thailand in 1902. Some 560 people have died in the violence this year.
An enquiry into the deaths of 85 Muslim protesters in Thailand has concluded they were not killed deliberately, the head of the investigation has said.
The incident outraged locals in Thailand's troubled south because seven people were shot during clashes with police and 78 died in army trucks. But Pichet Soontornpipit said there was no evidence the deaths were intended. He was speaking after submitting the enquiry's report on the incident to Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.
Muslim leaders in the region had hoped the report would criticise the authorities for using excessive force during the 25 October incident, when police broke up a protest in Takbai, southern Narathiwat province.
Seething in 5..4..3..
Hundreds of protesters were then loaded into army trucks, where 78 died - mainly of suffocation.
In response to the wave of public criticism which followed, the government set up an independent human rights commission - headed by Mr Pichet - to investigate what had happened. While the commission's report has not yet been officially published, Mr Pichet's comments on Friday appeared to indicate the government would be largely absolved. Mr Thaksin, who faces a general election in February, has been under pressure to end a wave of violence in the south, where more than 500 people have been killed since January.
The nine-member panel (6 retired Buddhist officials and 3 Muslim scholars) found that the Takbai deaths were caused by the chaos which ensued because of the unexpected demonstration, Mr Pichet told Reuters news agency. The incident was "abrupt" and the transport of those arrested done "in haste", he added.
All the protesters shot at the scene were killed by bullets which had travelled a considerable distance, suggesting the police had - as they insisted - fired into the air rather than directly at the protesters, Mr Pichet said.
On the day the report was delivered to Mr Thaksin, four Islamic teachers - said to be "masterminds" of the recent violence - appeared in a Bangkok court. The four were arrested on Thursday, and charged with terrorism-related offences.
Interior Minister Bhokin Bhalakula told local news agency TNA that despite the arrests, the situation in the south remained volatile and there was no room for complacency. Mr Thaksin also warned that the insurgency would persist for some time, since many Thai men had received military training both at local Muslim schools and in Malaysia's Kelantan State. He also said a suspected separatist had recently fled to Malaysia.
"The sporadic violence will continue for some time because the movement has been brain washed and its young members have been receiving military training since 1993," Mr Thaksin is quoted as telling the Associated Press. Malaysia has repeatedly said it does not support the separatist movement in southern Thailand.
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Indonesia President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono is expected to ask for an explanation over Australia's maritime security plan when he meets the Australian Defence Minister Robert Hill in Jakarta tonight. Indonesia has criticised the planned maritime security zone as intruding on jurisdiction of its own waters. After meeting Defence Minister Robert Hill yesterday, Indonesia Foreign Affairs Minister Hassan Wirajuda said Indonesia could not accept Canberra's plan as it contradicted Indonesia's absolute sovereignty over its own waters. Today Indonesia Defence Minister Juwono Sudarsono concluded a meeting with his Australian counterpart by saying the maritime security matter would be raised by President Yudhoyono when he meets Mr Hill. Senator Hill has described the issue as one of communications with ships, rather than any intrusion into another nation's jurisdiction.
Australia's Defence Minister Robert Hill has defended Canberra's proposal for a new maritime zone, saying it was not an extension of jurisdiction but would give better protection to offshore oil rigs. "It is an extension of geography within which we would like to know the nature of ships that intend to either transit at Australian waters or intend to and in Australian ports," Mr Hill told reporters in Jakarta. "My understanding is that this is not in breach of any international law and Australia obviously is committed and intends to comply to all international law obligations," he said after meeting his Indonesian counterpart Juwono Sudarsono. Under the plan announced by Prime Minister John Howard on Wednesday, all ships travelling to Australia will be required to provide details on their journey and cargo if they enter the 1,000 nautical mile zone. Vessels coming within a 200 nautical mile limit of the Australian coast will also be required to give extra details on cargo, ports visited, location, course, speed and intended port of arrival. The move is similar to steps taken by the United States in dramatically raising standards of maritime security amid fears of extremist attacks on ships. Washington has called on its allies to introduce similar measures.
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While the West is basking in the tunes of Christmas carols, a different tune is being played by the two leading Jihadi TV channels, al Jazeera and al Manar. The radical Sunni al Jazeera, broadcasting from Qatar, the flagship of anti-Western Islamist propaganda, is funded and tolerated by the Qatari royal family, reportedly to the tune of $30 million a year. It has become the main conduit of Al Qaeda tapes to the Arab and Muslim world, suggesting an exclusive arrangement with the elusive jihadi leaders Usama bin Laden and Ayman Al Zawahiri.
Al Manar, a Shi'i satellite and cable operation out of Lebanon, belongs to Hizballah and funded by the Islamic Republic of Iran to the tune of $15 million a year, and is even more anti-American in its pitch. Both channels are available world wide, including the US, via satellite. Canadian cable operators are now offering al Jazeera and al Manar via easily obtained and cheap subscriptions.
Robert Spencer, Director of the NGO Jihad Watch says that al Jazeera provides foreign-based terrorists with a source of news, encouragement and instruction. It serves radical Muslims as a useful recruiting tool. For jihadist recruiters, al Jazeera is like an electronic madrassa beaming the teachings and perspective of radical Islam into the living rooms of Muslims around the world twenty four hours a day, Spencer says.
Since 9/11, the U.S. Government has expressed its concerns about al Jazeera's biased coverage to the Emir of Qatar. A State Department official told CNN that Secretary of State Colin Powell and the emir "had a frank exchange" on the issue and "there should have been no mistake of where we are coming from." Condoleezza Rice has also criticized the channel. No wonder: typical coverage would include the following pictures shown in quick succession: tiny bodies of Iraqi children supposedly killed by American bombs, woman in a chador sobbing, a giant American B-52 bomber, and fireballs lighting up the Baghdad night sky. One American observer in the Middle East calls al Jazeera "All Intifada, all the time."
Al Manar, however, makes al Jazeera look like PBS. A new study by Avi Jorisch, a former Pentagon Arab media and terrorism expert, published by the Washington Institute for Near East Studies, exposes this deadly media weapon wielded by Hizballah. "The United States is one of al-Manar's main targets. Hizballah views America as a terrorist state... Al Manar is used to further that perception, attempting to win the hearts and minds of Arab and Muslim viewers by waging a powerful public relations campaign against the 'Great Satan.'" writes Jorisch.
He quotes Sheikh Nasrallah, Hizbollah's Secretary General in a March 2002 speech,
"Today the main source of evil in this world, the main source of terrorism... the central threat to international peace and to the economic development... the main threat to the environment, the main source of ... killing and turmoil, and civil wars, and regional wars is the United States of America. The American political discourse is to terrorize the countries of the world. American is a beast in all meanings of the world. A beast that is hungry for power and blood."
Al Manar focuses much of its broadcasts on alleged American atrocities towards Native Americans, blacks, and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while stating that U.S. "oppression" continues unabated. Al Manar brainwashes its audience, including its viewers in the U.S., that America's foreign policy is designed to "enslave the governments and people of the Middle East and their resources."
Ayatollah Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, Hizbollah's spiritual leader, as well as Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the late Ayatollah Khomeini are often quoted on al Manar vilifying America, its leaders and its policies.
Al Manar constantly calls upon the "Arab masses" to "mobilize" and "resist" the U.S. presence in Iraq and elsewhere, while it glorifies murder-suicide bombings against civilians in Israel. While al Manar and Hizballah officials profess their neutrality towards the American people in interviews in English, Jorisch writes, the channel often quotes its leader Ayatollah Fadlallah's vitriol, "The instincts of American people are filled with hatred for Arabs and Muslims."
In fact, according to Hizballah, it is the U.S. and Israel which are "terrorist states" whereas "jihad, resistance, martyrdom... is actually removing terrorism. Humanity will not be blessed without removing America's type of terrorism...We have to continue our jihad in all different types in order to save humanity from the (American) terrorist thinking."
Little response has come to date from Washington to this 24/7 global brainwashing. Today, al Jazeera is launching its English language global satellite channel. Al Manar is broadcasting unabated, and its popularity is growing. Al Qaeda is recruiting hundreds, if not thousands, through chat rooms around the world. Jihadi websites are proliferating like poisonous mushrooms, in Arabic, English, French, Farsi, Urdu, Uzbek, and in the languages of the Indian subcontinent and East Asia. After 9/11 the CIA experienced an acute shortage of funds and lacked the qualified linguists who would be needed just to keep track of these spewing Niagaras of hatred. The battle of ideas has thus far been an American weak spot in the war on terror.
In the second Bush Administration it is imperative to go beyond the Radio Sawa and Al Hurra TV channel funded by the U.S Government to answer the jihadi propaganda. It was inconceivable that Der Sturmer, the propaganda sheet put out by Hitler's propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, would have been allowed to circulate unchallenged in the Allied countries during World War II. Today, it is simply self-defeating for the West to permit American, French and other Western satellites and cable systems to carry al Jazeera and al Manar.
The intelligence community has yet to develop a capable covert political action arm, which would launch or support liberal and pro-Western TV channels, radio stations and web sites to counter the media promoting radical Islamist hatred of either the Sunni and Shi'a brands.
The State Department has yet to develop a comprehensive strategy, which would demand U.S.-friendly Muslim regimes to bring government-funded mosques, school curricula, and university education into harmony with the rest of the planet -- multicultural and theologically messy.
On al Jazeera and al Manar, preachers and propagandists are still calling for to the death to the infidels. Somewhere, another ignorant 16 year old is being recruited by an al Qaeda operative in an on-line chat room, another "mother of shahid" is being given her thirty seconds of global glory in return for the willful death of her child and the murder of many others. It is time to stop the bloody charade of the global electronic jihad.
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While the West is basking in the tunes of Christmas carols, a different tune is being played by the two leading Jihadi TV channels, al Jazeera and al Manar.
Ain't nuthin' that a modified anti-radiation missile couldn't cure.
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No several anti-radiation missles if possible fired from internation air space. Don't leave any finger prints. Keep them guessing. Keep them in fear once you establish it. High Power TV transmitter don't grow on trees. Satelite uplinks don't either.
Actually, he should be able to take some credit for it, but I think most of the electorate had forgotten about it by November 2nd...
Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi says his decision to abandon nuclear weapons helped President Bush get re-elected. In an interview airing Friday on Italy's RAI TV, Ghadafi said the U.S. presidential election was America's way of rewarding Tripoli for renouncing the nuclear program. "America was very worried that Libya might get a mass destruction weapon, so they were very happy about our decision," Gadhafi said on RAI's "La Storia Siamo Noi" ("History Is Us") news show, according to an English-language transcript provided by the broadcaster. "It has been a winning hand in the last election," he said. Gadhafi renounced the weapons program last year, a turnaround that ended Libya's international isolation. In turn, the United States lifted most of its commercial sanctions, as did the European Union. The EU also eased an arms embargo.
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President Bush later acknowledged that Gadhafi's decision helped, and said that by way of "thanks" he had decided NOT to squash Gadhafi like a bug.
Declaring 2005 a year of opportunity, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon held out the prospect of an independent state for the Palestinians if they stop violence and said he is ready to coordinate a Gaza pullout with them. Sharon's speech was strikingly optimistic, a sign of change in the post-Yasser Arafat era, but Palestinian leaders said it fell short of expectations.
Everything falls short of their expectations, doesn't it?
In Gaza, fighting continued. Israeli troops raided the Khan Younis refugee camp Friday after Palestinian mortar fire killed a Thai worker in a Jewish settlement and injured 17 people, including 11 soldiers, in the past week. Three Palestinians, including at least one gunman, were killed in Friday's army raid. Bulldozers began knocking down buildings, and hundreds of Palestinians fled their homes for fear the army would demolish them. Addressing an academic conference Thursday evening, Sharon said Arafat had been the main obstacle to peace and his death in November turned 2005 into a "year of great opportunity."
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..Prime Minister Ariel Sharon held out the prospect of an independent state for the Palestinians if they stop violence..
This is nothing new. Arafart or no Arafart, this was always what was understood to be the desired eventual result. And in keeping with their tradition, the Paleos' reaction is nothing new either.
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I hope our administration is pursuing the same strategy. If terrorist acts continue with impunity while we sit at the negotiations table with Palestinian leaders who just can't seem to choke out the words "Israel has a right to exist", we will have compromised ourselves greatly.
What did the Kurds gain from the IRAQ affairâŠâŠâŠ nothing. Unless embracing the colonization forces, and kisses on cheeks of the new colonization rulers, and the accuse with great treason, and allies with colonization. Whereas the Kurds situation did not change, but it became more worst at least from the moral and appearance points of view.
We expect that at such historical dramatical hours, it will be a rare historical chance for Kurds to graspit, similar to the chance of conquering Berlin City which was grasped by the Jews, defend of axis countries, and victory of Allies in the second world war. This should involve announcement of Kurd country, the historical hope for the suppressed Kurd nationâŠ..There is nothingâŠâŠ., the Kurds are nationals in the countries where they were found.
What is new ? what are the gains ? âŠâŠ..nothing. The Kurd is a Kurd a citizen from the second or third class in all countries of near east..
Do not let them deceive you by appointing Mr. Hoshyar Zibari as a Minister for Ministry of Foreign Affairs, regarding the recent situation of IRAQ , now a days lieutenant general Noureddin Mahmoud was a prime minister for IRAQ, also Mr. Ahmed Baban, both of them were Kurds. Also the ministers of public works, communications, interior justice, finance and defense were all Kurds.
The chief of staff of Iraqi army was given to Kurds for example: lieutenant general Bak Sidgi, lieutenant general Hussein Fawzi, lieutenant colonel Amen Zaki, even the percentage of Kurds in Iraqi country employees was 25% , where as it is 97% in Kurds area. The Kurds in their areas in Iraq had rural councils, district councils, municipal councils,âŠ.etc.
The Kurd language and Arabic language were official in some municipalities such as Al sulaimaniya .
Whereas the education language in the primary and intermediate stage is Kurd language in the Kurd zones, while the Arabic language is a second language in Iraq during the past sixties.
It was expected according to the dangerous event that the Kurd state will emerge to be the rescuer and the protective shade for the Kurds to save them from the suppression and suffering which they sustain during their miserable history.
We return to repeat the sad phrase which indicate the lost historical chances and grieve.
What is new? The Kurds are Iraqi citizens , and this is their previous situation.
What the Kurds gain from the disaster that destroys the whole IRAQ ?!
Who is bye and gambling and trading with the holy Kurd issue ?!
Who drinks the blood of more thousands of Kurds mortyrs ?
What is the benefit of the buyer and seller?!
This is the result after shedding of the holly Kurds bloods in revolutions of Obeidallah Al Nahri âŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠBadrkhan âŠâŠâŠâŠ.. BotanâŠâŠâŠ..AlnagshabandiâŠâŠâŠ.âŠ.shehabeddinâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ.sheikh saeed shakakâŠâŠâŠ..AlHafidâŠâŠ..âŠâŠâŠ..Ihsan Nuri âŠâŠâŠâŠ.Ahmed Al BarzaniâŠâŠâŠ.ReddaâŠâŠâŠMustafa Al Barzani.
If we are in front of a historical transformation moment⊠and pretending to liberate people from their suppressionsâŠâŠ..there is no suppressed nation more than the Kurd nationâŠâŠâŠ.why there is prejudice in our destiny issues, why there is no support for the Kurd nation and declaration for its independence and Unity, and withdrawal of swords directed towards it, and treating it as instead as a fraternal neighbor the Arab Nation , Persian and Turkish Nation who deceived the Kurds ?!
Who bargain with their holly issueâŠ. who sold them.
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why there is no support for the Kurd nation and declaration for its independence and Unity, and withdrawal of swords directed towards it, and treating it as instead as a fraternal neighbor the Arab Nation , Persian and Turkish Nation who deceived the Kurds ?!
This is really hard to read, but is Gaddafi calling for a seperate Kurdish state?
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It is indeed difficult to read from this text, but AFAIK Qaddafi has indeed supported the idea of an independent Kurdistan in the past.
Saddam Hussein's defense minister, who surrendered to American forces last year, will appear alongside another notorious general — known as Chemical Ali — when investigative trials open next week, an official said Friday. Gen. Sultan Hashim Ahmad, who gave himself up in September 2003 at a coalition military base in the northern city of Mosul, will be among the first two to face the hearings, which interim Iraqi Prime Minister Prime Minister Ayad Allawi announced will commence next week.
An Iraqi government official said on Thursday that Saddam's notorious former right-hand man, Ali Hassan al-Majid — known as Chemical Ali for his use of chemical weapons — would head the list of 11 top regime members to appear at the initial investigative court hearings. "Chemical Ali and Sultan will be the first to face the hearings," the official, who is familiar with the proceedings, told The Associated Press. Ahmad was No. 27 on America's list of 55 most-wanted regime figures. He surrendered on Sept. 19, 2003, to Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, who was then the commander of the 101st Airborne Brigade. Ahmad is in U.S. military custody at an undisclosed location in Baghdad. During the 1991 Gulf War, Ahmad, then a lieutenant general, served as deputy chief of staff. He headed the Iraqi delegation at cease-fire talks.
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This is a pathetic joke. Anyone who is commonly known as Chemical Ali should be summarily executed by a firing squad comprised of equal numbers of Kurds and Iranians. This monster should not be allowed to soil the legal process. For war crimes/genocide cases like Chemical Ali, he should have one day to plead his case/beg for his life before a tribunal. At the end of the day the tribinals' judgement should be pronounced and the next morning the firing squad should execute the monster if he has failed to prove his innocence. Forget about this Western crap about innocent until proven guilty. These are monsters who masterminded/gave orders for others to commit heinous crimes against mankind. Milosevic has been running circles around the well paid scholarly looking justices at the World Court, and the way things are going I'd bet he's going to have the charges dismissed. It's unfair to the victims' families to force them to wait and wait and have them see devils like Chemical Ali and Saddam Hussein have teams of lawyers run mack trucks through the loopholes in our Western style legal process and be eating filet mignon while sleeping on Tempeurpedic mattresses in their air conditioned jails.
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Q On the 278th, can you repeat this? At the time the question was asked, the planted question, the unit had 784 of its 804 vehicles armored?
GEN. SPEAKES: Here is the overall solution that you see. And what we've had to do is -- the theater had to take care of 830 total vehicles. So this shows you the calculus that was used. Up north in Iraq, they drew 119 up-armored humvees from what we call stay-behind equipment. That is equipment from a force that was already up there. We went ahead and applied 38 add-on armor kits to piece of equipment they deployed over on a ship. They also had down in Kuwait 214 stay- behind equipment pieces that were add-on armor kits. And then over here they had 459 pieces of equipment that were given level-three protection. And so when you put all this together, that comes up with 830.
Q At the time of the question -- summarize this, now -- that unit that the kid was complaining about was mostly armored?
GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. In other words, we completed all the armoring within 24 hours of the time the question was asked.
Q So it's possible that -- from these numbers -- it's possible that he had a vehicle that had not been armored that was slated to be armored or that had not been armored that was not supposed to be armored, that would be carried on a heavy truck?
GEN. SPEAKES: Both were very possible. And very frankly, if you live out at one of those camps, the level of chaos and confusion as you're going through the final stages of getting a unit ready to go north -- to me the fact that every soldier in that unit didn't have a picture of this is not surprising. This operation took place over about four different locations, widely separated in various locations across Kuwait. And then, of course, he may not have even understood that a part of the solution was waiting for them up in Iraq because the stay-behind equipment that was up in Iraq that had already been add-on armored was never seen by the soldier until he or she got up north and actually drew it in Iraq. And so it's a complex picture. And the bottom line is right now it was successful. We accomplished the missions that General Schoomaker gave us, and it's frankly something that's very, very important that we continue to do.
Q If he hadn't asked that question, would the up-armoring have been accomplished within 24 hours?
GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. This was already an existing program. Remember that when I began this presentation we talked about General Schoomaker in his testimony in front of the HASC in November -- made it real clear. He said all vehicles operating north of the berm will be up-armored, and what that meant in common-sense language is you don't leave Kuwait without either an up-armor or an add-on armor solution. And we understood that, and most importantly the theater did. And so we were in constant dialogue, ensuring that we provided everything that was required to make this happen. And this didn't happen just for the 278th. In other words, the 256th, which was the Army Guard brigade directly in front of it, had the same identical solution; and although different numbers of vehicles, approximately the same solution in terms of percentage of fill.
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Opposition to war is free speech; but no society that values its own survival can tolerate wartime desertion from its armed forces.
Deserters should be shot and the moonbat quislings who incite them thrown in jail.
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Check out today's updates at Citizen Smash.
The vile quislings not only counsel desertion, they will be desecrating hallowed ground when they hold their media-stunt rally on the old Fleet Landing in San Diego. This is the point from which WW2 sailors and soldiers left for their ships. For many thousands, it was the last time they ever stood on American soil. To say the least, Smash and his buds are pissed off, which is bad news for moonbats.
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Few remember it, but back in the 1960s, several anti-Vietnam War protests were really busted up by "hard hats", often construction workers, using a proud American tool, the axe-handle. This got very little play in the news, the MSM not wanting to discourage protests, but there were seldom protests in the same city afterwards. On a historical note, the use of axe-handles has a long American tradition, including being used on mobs of anarchists and communists.
You have it all wrong: deserters should be thrown in jail and the moonbat quislings who incited them should be shot.
In 1945, a prominent French writer was sentenced to death for treason. Immediately all French writers (even those who had been in the Resistance from the start) petitionned General de Gaulle to commute the sentence. But De Gaule answered: "Many poor guys have been driven into the Milice and in collaboration because of people like him who heated their heads. Them (the intellectuels) are not less but more responsible than your basic Milice man". And he signed the death sentence.
Note: The Milice was a force created by the Vichy government for hunting the Resistance. They helped the Germans in destroying the Maquis of the Vercors and perpetrated many crimes.
Hollywood has joined the war. Universal Pictures announced yesterday that it is to make The Battle for Falluja. To prove it is serious, it has enlisted Indiana Jones himself, actor Harrison Ford, to help defeat the insurgency.
Ohfergawdsake. Who's gonna play "Short Round"?
The film - Hollywood's first foray into the second Iraq conflict - is due to go into production next year and will be based on a yet-to-be-finished book, No True Glory: The Battle for Falluja by Bing West, a former marine, politician and now war correspondent. The movie and book take as their starting point the killing of four civilian contractors in Falluja and the ensuing decision to order an assault on the city by US marines. That first assault, which was abruptly stopped by the White House, was led by General Jim Mattis, who will be played by Ford. Six months later, shortly after the US presidential election, the marines attacked Falluja for a second time, successfully occupying the city. Almost 80 US marines were killed in the two assaults, while some sources have estimated that 800 Iraqis and insurgents died in the April assault on the city and a further 1,000 in November.
"I'm very disturbed about the direction American foreign policy is going," said Ford, according to the Australian Associated Press. Ford... noted U.S. post-war casualties have exceeded those during the actual conflict. "I think something needs to be done to help alleviate the conditions which have created a disenfranchised and angry faction in the Middle East," said the 62-year-old Ford.
But you'll take the money, and you'll look mock-heroic, won't you?
The film promises to depict the story from the point of view of US soldiers and politicians; it seems unlikely that the plight of the Iraqis will figure too prominently in Hollywood's take on the subject.
Hand me my violin...
Writing last week for the online journal Slate.com, West said: "If America needs a hard job done, the marines will do it, and they won't lose their humanity in the process or any sleep over pulling the trigger. Yes, they are 'the world's most lethal killing machine.' That's what America needs in battle."
"I don't think military intervention is the correct solution," he said. "I regret what we as a country have done so far."
Act and be damned.
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"That first assault, which was abruptly stopped by the White House, was led by General Jim Mattis, who will be played by Ford."
I call bullshit. Total Bullshit. Another half-assed dizzy as a drunk blonde version of reality from Al Guradian's Editorial Wankers. The stop order came from the US, alright, because the Sunnis in the pre-Interim Gov't - a broad spectrum council of idjits - went apeshit and the MSM lapped it up with a spoon generating the usual clap-trap stories of genocidal mayhem. Remember? And the US acceeded to their wishes, despite the stupidity of it. We were apparently trying to generate at least some goodwill from the zipperheads then in positions of influence - IIRC a group that couldn't agree on diddley-squat, tried to torpedo the Constitution, and generally proved itself too factional to be worth warm spit. Basically, Allawi was the only good thing to come from it - and he was far better than we dared hope for, given the other aspects of their brief reign.
Spin removed, this was the sequence: 2004 Apr 6, U.S. Marines launched a major assault on the turbulent city of Fallujah.
2004 Apr 10, Iraqi government negotiators entered the besieged city of Fallujah...
2004 Apr 11, US forces and insurgents agreed to a cease-fire in Fallujah.
As for Bing West, I'll google him later to see if he's the real deal or unworthy to bask in the light of our people - I don't much like his quote at the end - it sounds theatrical and ham-handed. He is, after all, dealing with Hollyweird and that seems to send some people over the edge, if they aren't already.
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"The plight of the Iraqis" means the viewpoint of the terrorists and their shills at Al Guardian. This sympathetic euphemism implies that the Euro-bigots' neo-Goebbelist view is the only valid one for "thoughtful" people, something the primitively gullible masses of Eurabia define in terms of their adherence to the backward and fossilized 1970s media tropes that still prevail in that benighted region of the world.
In particular, this piece seeks to establish an equivalence between US views of the conflict and a Hollywood fantasy, eg Indiana Jones. This inference is reinforced by referring to Ford as though he actually is Indiana Jones, thereby connecting the latter character to the new movie and, in turn, making this equivalent to the non-Guardian view of the conflict.
The Euro-masses and Brit-bigot chatterati will buy this kind of idiocy and Goebbels style manipulation wholesale, and think themselves superior for doing so.
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There should be considerable accountability on the movie moguls getting this right, given the sacrifice of our soldiers, they better not screw it up.
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Ford is one of them all right, but he is not a complete idiotarian, especially by Hollyweird standards. He turned down the part of conspira-loon/crook Jim Garrison in the Oliver Stoned fantasy JFK for example.
The role went instead to Kevin Costner, one of several bad calls Costner made in wrecking what had been a promising career.
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The ray of hope here is that the book is by Bing West, a former Marine and a co-author of the The March Up, a book about the First Marine Division's campaign in March/April of last year. West is also the father of Owen West, who IIRC was a force recon Marine in the campaign and is himself an author (Sharkman Six, a novel about the Marines in Somalia.)
Now, what Hollywood will do with the material is another matter. I assume the fluffy bunnies and baby ducks will be computer generated, and that Sean Penn will play the doctor at the Fallujah hospital.
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AC - You dont think that Hollywood gives a flying fark about our soldiers do you?
I'm willing to give it the benefit of a doubt since it is being writte by an ex-marine but I'll also look for children flying kites and direction by Mike Al-Moore (who hollywood considers an 'expert' on the Iraq war.....).
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Indy is getting a bit long in the tooth for such a role.
He's about the right age to play a General. You can see a current picture of Lt Gen James N. Mattis here. He's currently serving as Commanding General of the Marine Corp Combat Development Command.
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Hollywood will probably conduct it with the same accuracy and success as they did Alexander The Great.
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Frank, LOL, and an Irish accent. Maybe they'll hire some Marines as consultants. "Here, Mr. Affleck, lemme show you a trick you can do with a K-Bar."
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Re: that picture. Pardon me while I turn sixteen again.
Ohmigod he is SO. CUTE. squeeeEEEEal!
There. I'm back. Agree about the hair, Seafarious. I think he just suddenly had it all cut off one day, and then he wasn't nearly so hot. You must admit, for an actor, his anti-war statement is pretty calm and reasonable.
WASHINGTON - The administration of US President George W. Bush will agree to write off Iraq's debts to Washington of 4.1 billion dollars, racked up during the regime of Saddam Hussein. US Secretary of State Colin Powell, Treasury Secretary John Snow and Iraq's Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, according to a State Department statement Thursday, will sign the debt write-off accord in Washington on Friday.
"The signing of the debt cancellation agreement is the bilateral agreement that implements the United States' part of the Paris Club debt-reduction agreement reached November 21, 2004," the statement said. "In fact the United States will go beyond the 80 percent reduction agreed at the Paris Club and forgive 100 percent of the 4.1 billion dollars Iraq owes the United States from the Saddam era," it said.
In late November, the Paris Club of 19 creditor countries, including the United States, Japan, Russia and EU nations, said its members had agreed to wipe out 80 percent of the money it is owed by Iraq over three years. Iraq owes the Paris Club nations some 40 billion dollars (30 billion euros), about one-third of the country's foreign debt.
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Ya gotta lead by example. Wonder if France, Germany, Russia, and China will do the same, heh. Nahhh, not to that tune, anyway. They'll offer some fraction of the "debt" Saddam racked up. Wish I could advise 'em on this, as I would make it very simple, indeed, lol! Just walk away from it and tell 'em all to piss up a rope.
The Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, has addressed an open message to leaders of various Bedouin tribes in the Palestinian lands occupied in 1948 appealing to them not to let their sons enroll in the Zionist criminal army.
"No, no! Don't do it!"
The message was addressed after Hamas got to know that soldiers serving with the Zionist army along the borders with Egypt were Palestinian Bedouins.
It's been going on 60 years. They hadn't noticed?
Israelis all look like to them. Especially the Ethiopian ones ...
It pointed out that those soldiers were obeying orders of their commanders to kill the Palestinian innocent children and women and to demolish houses. Hamas' message, a copy of which was made available to PIC, said, "We are all confidence that you are part and parcel of that blessed land Palestine". The message charged that Zionist occupiers came to divide between Palestinians but "we remain brothers in religion and of one country, and part and parcel of our Arab and Muslim Ummah. You were and continue to be supportive of our people under occupation. None can deny the Bedouins' bright image, who have maintained their Arab and Muslim identity despite decades of occupation and they group propagators, strugglers and detainees in Zionist occupation jails".
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"No. no, they must join the Islamist criminal army!"
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I thought the Pals always thought of the Bedouin as their equivalent of "white trash". Hmm.
How long before they notice that some of the Israelis kicking their ass are girls?
Saddam Hussein met with a lawyer on Thursday for the first time since he was arrested a year ago, his defence team said. "The interview lasted for more than four hours. The president seems in good health, much better compared to his first appearance before the court," Saddam's Amman-based legal team said in a statement. Saddam Hussein will be the last of 12 leaders from the toppled regime to go on trial "long after" next month's elections, Iraq's justice minister told a Swiss newspaper in an article published on Thursday. In addition, Barzan Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti, presidential adviser and also half-brother of Saddam, would be the second to face justice after Ali Hassan al-Majid, said Justice Minister Malek Dohan al-Hassan.
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I like the picture.
Where is it from?
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Google Images is your friend. I did a search on "lawyer." Fred swiped it for the RB liberry.
Pakistan Muslim League candidate, Salim Saifullah Khan, on Thursday refused to accept the result of the NA-35 by-poll, a result that saw him lose to Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) nominee Syed Bakhtiar Mani. "I do not accept the results of the Wednesday polls that were rigged by the MMA provincial government," Salim Saifullah told a news conference in Batkhela.
At least they didn't poison him...
No dioxin left over after they were done with Yush ...
Sirajul Haq, NWFP senior minister, rejected the allegations. According to an unofficial result, the MMA has won the seat. Mani won 33,744 votes with Salim Saifullah gaining 19,946. Engineer Humayun Khan, Pakistan People's Party Parliamentarian (PPPP), secured 17,268 votes and came third. Unlike the PML, the PPPP conceded defeat, claiming they upheld democratic traditions. "We accept the defeat as we believe in democracy," Najmuddin Khan, PPPP provincial secretary, told reporters.
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The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) is considering staging a sit-in at rather an "extraordinary" place in Rawalpindi to protest President General Musharraf continuing in his army office, MMA leader Hafiz Hussain Ahmed told journalists at Lahore Press Club on Thursday.
I believe he's one of Qazi's sons...
But he would not elaborate what that extraordinary place could be. Asked if the army supported President Musharraf holding his army office, he said the MMA had given the army leeway through the 17th amendment but would now oppose the army's decision to support its general. He said the MMA supported the 17th amendment in the hope of resolving the uniform issue once and for all. "We allowed General Musharraf grace till December 31 only," he added. He said the Rawalpindi rally would be held according to schedule on December 19. "A lot rests on whether President Musharraf retains his army office or not. Our next move will come on December 30 or 31 in response to the president's decision," he added. He would not explain what the MMA's future course of action could be, saying it would remain a mystery. But he said the future plan of action would be finalised at the MMA's supreme council meeting in Islamabad on December 24. He rebuffed allegations that the MMA was the government's B team, saying it would not have contested elections for prime minister, speaker and deputy speaker if that was the case.
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I've got an "extraodinary place".
It's in my pants.
Two Mehsud sub tribes' jirga on Thursday reached an agreement with the army, promising they will not shelter foreigners. The two jirgas, consisting of 56 men from the Shabikhel tribe and 26 from the Shimankhel tribe, held separate meetings with Lieutenant-General Safdar Hussain. A military source described the agreement as in important breakthrough in the hunt for militant Abdullah Mehsud who is believed hiding in the area of the two tribes.
"Yeah. We're pretty sure he's hiding in there. That's where all the gunfire's coming from."
"A good start has been made to flush out both local and foreign militants from the area," said the source who asked not to be named. Five most wanted Wazir militants surrendered to the army on November 12 and a ceasefire took place two days after, and peace has been restored since. The two tribes pledged to cooperate with the army and the government in the war on terror. The Peshawar corps commander said the army held tribesmen in the highest esteem and wanted to provide them with opportunities for development.
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The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) will devise a mode of anti-uniform agitation in its supreme council meeting on December 24. The movement will be stronger if Gen Musharraf does not relinquish his uniform, said Qazi Hussain Ahmad, president of the MMA and Jamaat-e-Islami chief, on Thursday while addressing a press conference at Mansoora. He said Gen Musharraf would cease to be the president after December 31 and urged the opposition parties to cooperate in ousting the current government. He said the MMA had invited the Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy to attend the MMA public meetings. Qazi said the results of the Malakand by-election proved that MMA's public support was solid. He accused the ruling Pakistan Muslim League of attempting to rig the polls in NA-35 Malakand, placing 3,000 state officials and harassing returning officer through intelligence officials and the Chief Election Commissioner.
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Perv gives in on the uniform demand, shows up in a pink tutu:
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A Pakistani man was sentenced to 12 years in jail by an Australian court on Thursday for smuggling hundreds of would-be asylum seekers to Australia. Hasan Ayoub, 34, sent two boatloads of people to Australia's Christmas Island in the Indian Ocean in March and April 2001. Each had paid a passage fee of up to $12,000, the court heard. Ayoub was convicted in the Western Australian District Court in November on two counts of people smuggling.
Turkey will be an Islamic "Trojan Horse" inside the European Union if it is allowed to join the bloc, to the advantage of Al Qaeda terror chief Osama bin Laden and other extremists, Libyan leader 
Hollywood has joined the war. Universal Pictures announced yesterday that it is to make The Battle for Falluja. To prove it is serious, it has enlisted Indiana Jones himself, actor 
Saddam Hussein met with a lawyer on Thursday for the first time since he was arrested a year ago, his defence team said. "The interview lasted for more than four hours. The president seems in good health, much better compared to his first appearance before the court," Saddam's Amman-based legal team said in a statement. Saddam Hussein will be the last of 12 leaders from the toppled regime to go on trial "long after" next month's elections, Iraq's justice minister told a Swiss newspaper in an article published on Thursday. In addition, Barzan Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti, presidential adviser and also half-brother of Saddam, would be the second to face justice after Ali Hassan al-Majid, said Justice Minister Malek Dohan al-Hassan.
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