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Hizbul Mujahedeen offers ceasefire
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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Make sure your innoculations are up to date -- mumps outbreaks in Iowa and Nebraska
Nebraska: Several cases of mumps have been confirmed in Adams County in south-central Nebraska, the Nebraska Health and Human Services System said Thursday. Potential cases in Jefferson and Hamilton counties were also being investigated.

The Iowa Department of Public Health has confirmed 219 cases of mumps so far this year, and Nebraska officials said the people with mumps in Adams County have connections to Iowa.

Nebraska's state epidemiologist, Dr. Tom Safranek, said people 30 to 65 years old who haven't had the disease or been vaccinated are most at risk.

Mumps is a highly contagious viral infection of the salivary glands. It's spread through coughing or sneezing or through direct contact with saliva or mucus. Health experts say mumps can lead to deafness, meningitis, a swelling of the testicles or ovaries and, rarely, death. Symptoms include fever, headache and swollen glands under the jaw.


Iowa:It first showed up in January and by the end of February. Iowa had 26 cases of the mumps. Three weeks later, that number more than doubled. Today, health officials believe there are more than 200 Iowans with the disease. Iowa hasn't seen an outbreak like this in nearly 20 years. About one-third of Iowa counties are reporting cases of mumps. Dubuque county alone has already had 85 cases this year. College aged students are most at risk, accounting for about a third of all cases in Iowa. Health officials say the virus is spread by coughing or sneezing and campuses act much like a breeding ground for diseases like the mumps.

But, health officials say it's not kids that should worry as much as the Baby Boomer generation. That's the age group health officials say might not have had a second dose of the M.M.R., or measles, mumps, rubella vaccine.

The Centers for Disease Control says the mumps virus in Iowa has shown up in other parts of the world. It's similar to a strain seen in an outbreak in the United Kingdom in 2004 and 2005.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 18:06 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Kewl! The Jerusalem Post now has special edition for Christians
Exerpted from the cover letter:

Let me also take this opportunity to invite other Christian ministries and leaders to join us in this venture, to ensure that The Jerusalem Post Christian Edition - its content tailored specifically to Christian readers who care passionately about the well-being of Israel and the Jewish people - reaches the widest possible Christian readership.

We at The Jerusalem Post hope and believe that the establishment of the Christian Edition will bring Jews and Christians closer together to the benefit of all.

You're appreciated! I haven't looked into it, so I don't know how well it's being done. Nonetheless, a lovely gesture, and I'm going to have to think seriously about getting my darling mother-in-law a subscription for Christmas. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 14:30 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What no "The Jerusalem Post Muslim Edition" ?
Posted by: DepotGuy || 03/31/2006 16:27 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd be offended by it, TW.

First, as a Christian I feel I have a lot more in common with a lot of Jews than I do with a lot of Christians. So, please don't treat Christians as a segment to be addressed.

Second, why is the information Christians get any different than what Jews get? What would your reaction be if the Christian Science Monitor came out with a special Jewish oriented edition?

I'll take my JPost like my Scotch, neat.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/31/2006 16:43 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm sorry, Nimble Spemble. I certainly didn't intend to offend. I assumed there would be special photojournalism pieces of places in Israel of religious significance to Christians, and stories about Christian efforts in Israel that don't make the cut for a Jewish audience, while ignoring, say, stories about comparative Purim celebrations in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 16:53 Comments || Top||

#4  I enjoy reading the JPost original recipe (as a Catholic). The internecine political battles among jewish subgroups/parties is amazing. If they didn't have a seething mass of Arabs on their periphery who want to kill them and drive them into the sea, I wonder how well they'd function. Survival is a strong instinct ...
Posted by: Frank G || 03/31/2006 17:35 Comments || Top||

#5  You didn't offend me, TW, never. I was speaking hypothetically wrt your idea of giving it to the mominlaw, unless you kjnow her religious leanings really well.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/31/2006 18:29 Comments || Top||

#6  We've had lovely discussions over the decades since I first met her treasured son, Nimble Spemble. I'm the first Jew (not counting the two who are members of her church) that she's known to talk to, and she's taken full advantage of the situation. :-) From originally thinking that all those not Christian would end up in Hell, her view has evolved to believing that Christ came to allow non-Jews to be included in the Jewish contract with God. I've learned a lot about evangelical Christianity from our talks, too, and have very much enjoyed them. I will, of course, take a very close look at what the JPost is putting out before deciding, as well as consulting Mr. Wife on the matter (being as she's his mother and all).

Frank G., I'm glad you (and liberalhawk) are keeping an eye on Israeli politics -- it makes my head ache simply trying to read articles on the subject.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 20:07 Comments || Top||


Not for the squeamish : weird nepalese baby à la Todd Browning
Pics of a (dead) "frogboy" baby in Nepal straight out of a fantasy novel, really eerie and somewhat disturbing. Mods, please kill it if inappropriate, this is a family blog after all.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 03/31/2006 13:40 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Should even be "quite" instead of "somewhat".
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 03/31/2006 13:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Looks like a case of anencephaly. A lot more common than one would think -

http://www.gfmer.ch/genetic_diseases_v2/gendis_detail_list.php?cat3=25
Posted by: buwaya || 03/31/2006 14:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Nice of them to parade the poor thing around so everybody gets a good look...
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/31/2006 15:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Indeed anacephaly. Note the blade wound in the chest. Certainly did die at home - had some help. Heart's on the other side, tho', dope.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 20:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Agree wid the blade wound. The poor kid - goes to show that the WOT for Islam is indeed about Civilization, and Modernity, and the Radicals and Anarchists, i.e. God/Faith-based Lefties, are in reality for thier fight to stay poor, regressed, primitice, and lawfully repressed, etc, NOT the PC Improvement or Progressivity of Islam or Mankind.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/31/2006 21:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Appears to be circumcised as well. Might have lived longer than professeed before being stabbed.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 21:30 Comments || Top||

#7  It's also significantly larger and heavier than 2kg's. This is 6-7 lbs, given the shot in the parade. And not a 30-minute newborn perhaps, either.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 21:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Horrendous people.

Couldn't they have just buried the poor thing with some respect.

Simply horrendous.
Posted by: Leigh || 03/31/2006 22:46 Comments || Top||


Shocked burglar runs into 17 sumo wrestlers
A Japanese burglar who thought he was lucky to find an unlocked door was shocked to be arrested by 20 massive sumo wrestlers who were staying at the building.
Betcha that flat ruined his day...
Konoshin Kawabata, 48, was rummaging inside a room in Osaka in the early hours when he was suddenly confronted by wrestler Dewanosato, who stands 180 centimetres and weighs 131 kilograms. "Without thinking, my body moved," Dewanosato, whose real name is Hideyuki Kawahara, said. "I caught the guy and bear-hugged him."

It was a citizen's arrest, said a police spokesman. "Mr Dewanosato immediately shouted out 'Hey!' and 'Burglar!' as he arrested the man. Then the other wrestlers woke up and came out to check things out," the spokesman said.

The burglar, who was unemployed, admitted he was baffled to find himself among sumo wrestlers. "First I was caught by a massive man. When the lights turned on, I was surrounded by more than a dozen sumo wrestlers. I was surprised," Kawabata told police, as quoted by Jiji Press. The sumo stable were staying and training at the building, which lies on the premises of the Shounji temple in the western metropolis.
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 10:14 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  LOL! Now this clown is an unemployed burglar.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/31/2006 11:20 Comments || Top||

#2  The building lies on the premisses of the Shounji temple. So basically this guy is robbing a temple compound? Do the Shinto have golden candelobras and priceless artifacts? Sacremental wine? Or was he going for some candle and sake stores?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 03/31/2006 11:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Lucky for him he was caught by the little lightweight guy.
Posted by: Perfesser || 03/31/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||

#4  After getting a bear hug from a sumo wrestler, he's lucky he's not counting his ribs using a pair of tweezers...
Posted by: Seafarious || 03/31/2006 12:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Possibly he was after the Green Destiny.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 03/31/2006 12:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Rachel Corrie aka St Pancake has been on the verge to have a consort.
Posted by: JFM || 03/31/2006 15:06 Comments || Top||

#7  Sounds a bit like the guy who holds up a favored police bar during happy hour.

With a knife.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 15:19 Comments || Top||

#8  Sounds a bit like the guy who holds up a favored police bar during happy hour. With a knife.

More like the guy who tried to hold up a Barrons restaurant in Denver - on the night the police were having their annual awards dinner. 267 cops, one burglar. They almost had a fight over who got to arrest him.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/31/2006 17:23 Comments || Top||

#9  Hint: If you are in a building in a Shounji temple and you see massively strong tables and chairs and wide passages and doorways....

... it might be a good idea to leave. Quicky and quiety...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/31/2006 17:37 Comments || Top||

#10  Rising Sun Smackdown!
Posted by: RD || 03/31/2006 21:12 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Blast as Kenya burns cocaine haul
An incinerator, where one of Africa's biggest hauls of narcotics is being burnt in Kenya, has exploded, delaying the process, police say.

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If they had bothered to check before burning, they would have noticed that: Cocaine is considered a HI-Explosive!
Posted by: 3dc || 03/31/2006 18:04 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:


Ugandan war toll 'worse than Iraq'
A report by more than 50 charity groups says the rate of violent deaths in northern Uganda is three times higher than in Iraq. The report has been prepared by Civil Society Organisations for Peace in Northern Uganda (CSOPNU). It says nearly 150 northern Ugandans die every week due to the rebellion waged by the group the Lords Resistance Army (LRA).

CSOPNU demands the UN Security Council add its voice to their call for peace talks to end the violence. "It should express its conviction the crisis ... can only be ended via a process of political engagement, diplomacy, and peaceful negotiation," the coalition said in a statement.

The United Nations coordinator for humanitarian affairs, Jan Egeland, says the Ugandan Government must act to stop further bloodshed. "We now need to see them realise the very encouraging statements that have been there from the Foreign Minister and also very positive signals from President Museveni that a different, renewed more systematic effort of the Ugandan Government to provide security for their own citizens will now take place," he said.
I'd guess it's kind of hard to negotiate when your enemy consists of krazed killers led by a psychopathic nutbag. But maybe Jan knows something we don't.
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 10:19 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The United Nations must act...

ha ha. Good one.
Posted by: 2b || 03/31/2006 11:19 Comments || Top||

#2  The UN WILL act, they just don't DO.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/31/2006 11:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Somehow I think if a conflict is serious the neighbors should all get together and come up with a plan and then go to the UN with that plan so the US can provide a blessing, or sanctions, or something.

Didn't Kenya remove Idi Amin? certainly they could move in and crush this nonsense if they wanted to.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 03/31/2006 11:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Tanzania removed Amin.
Posted by: buwaya || 03/31/2006 12:03 Comments || Top||

#5  What is the LRA?

[Supplied link a little too big for the RB template. Try Fred's linky tool...Seafarious]
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 03/31/2006 16:25 Comments || Top||


Netherlands receives request to host Taylor war crimes trial
The Special Court for Sierra Leone has formally asked the Netherlands to host the war crimes trial of former Liberian leader Charles Taylor, the ministry of foreign affairs said here Thursday. "Wednesday the Sierra Leone special court asked the Dutch government to agree to allow the physical judicial process to take place in the Netherlands but it would remain the Sierra Leone tribunal," foreign ministry spokesman Dirk-Jan Vermeij said. The UN-backed court in Freetown told the Dutch authorities that Taylor's "physical presence there could endanger the stability of the region".
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why the Netherlands?
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 7:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Close to Brussels but with better prosittutes in Amsterdam. It was the reporters first choice.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/31/2006 8:06 Comments || Top||

#3  He's not muslim so its probably safe enough for them.
Posted by: DoDo || 03/31/2006 11:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes, but the restaurants are much better in Brussels, and the Dutch are averse to taking payment on credit cards. (We ran out of cash in Amsterdam on a Sunday afternoon once. All the ATMs were turned off, too. It was a hungry afternoon. Of course, that was 1995, so perhaps things have changed for the better.)
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 15:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Sierra Leone or the Netherlands?
You have to ask?
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/31/2006 15:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Which one has a death penalty? I mean, an official one that doesn't involve "heart medicine."
Posted by: Secret Master || 03/31/2006 19:50 Comments || Top||


Arabia
At least 57 die as Bahrain pleasure boat sinks
At least 57 people, mainly foreigners, drowned when their dinner cruise boat capsized off the coast of Bahrain, officials said on Friday. The boat's owner, quoted by Al Arabiya television, said the traditional wooden dhow may have been overcrowded and capsized when passengers gathered on one side. Arab media reports said the captain had been reluctant to sail with so many on board the twin-decked boat.

The vessel went down late on Thursday. By daylight, only the upturned hull of the dhow was visible, with empty orange life-jackets bobbing alongside. Some 13 passengers were still missing and Bahrain TV showed pictures of rescue workers using pickaxes to try to break through the bottom of the vessel. Rescuers pulled 67 terrified survivors from the water as the rescue operation went through the night, helped by the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet which is based in the Gulf Arab state. More than 30 people were taken to hospital, many shivering and wrapped in blankets.

Aqeel Mirza said he was about 100 metres (yards) away on a nearby boat when he saw the ship capsize. "The sea was calm, there were no heavy winds or waves," he told Arabiya. "Suddenly, in that instant that we were watching it, the boat overturned very quickly. It just overturned on one side in seconds, and two seconds later the lights went out and then we started hearing the screaming." Mirza added it took more than 25 minutes for rescue boats to arrive at the scene. "Most of who died were inside the enclosed restaurant. Those who were on the top deck found it easier to survive because they jumped off the boat and waited for rescue," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 09:07 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well there is an office "fun day" gone badly wrong.

If all passengers are on the top deck, don't pull a tight turn.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 21:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Oops, the retaurant deck is just below top dance/outside open deck. Top heavy turn, but why the swerve?
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 21:07 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Pics From Mexican Protests - Racists Proclaiming Racism
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 15:11 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Illegal immigration, my ass. It's a fuckin invasion. And we should've started fighting it years ago.
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/31/2006 15:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Illegal immigration and the Mexican governments failure to do anything that might affect it are a case of Mexican Imperialism IMO.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 03/31/2006 16:23 Comments || Top||

#3  I wasn't aware of the popularity of the Anahuac Movement. That group is named after the old capitol of the Aztec cannibals. Prior to the brief Republic of Texas period, Hispano-Indians set up Fort Anahuac in what is now the Lone Star State, and began racist agitation notwithstanding their own Mestizo breeding. Every year, Mexico celebrates the "Day of the Race," to foster a racial supremacist mentality. Given that agitation, and Azatlani and Anahuaqi subversives within, it is essential that these invaders never become a majority. Even if they have advanced from people-munching to bean-eating, I say: keep the guacomole in Jalisco.

No racist comebacks, please.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 03/31/2006 16:45 Comments || Top||

#4  I know I've sounded like a broken record over the years re: build the fence/deport the illegals, but this one time I'll say it: "told ya so"
Posted by: Frank G || 03/31/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#5  What's the penalty for sedition again?
Posted by: flash91 || 03/31/2006 19:09 Comments || Top||

#6  I keep saying if the US just builds that damn fence, 90% of this nonsense will just evaporate in a decade on its own, without any other action. Of course, if there *is* other action, it may improve things faster, but *only* if that fence is built first.

Regular social policy has long hence and will continue to deal with the illegals already here. If they are hard working, get their children educated, and otherwise act like good citizens, we should make them citizens. The bad ones we put in prison and/or deport.

This system seems pretty effective when not overwhelmed by sheer numbers. And it has to be done in the US: NOBODY is stupid enough to go back to Mexico and wait in line for 15 years for an application to emigrate here legally. Especially when their children are Americanized, and they have a good job, etc.

It's even more important to build that wall, because when it is erected, Mexico most likely will erupt in a damn bloody civil war like it did in the first part of the 20th Century, maybe before or after a military coup.

The US will have to put two Corps on the border anyway. But with the wall to help, we probably won't have to machinegun tens of thousands of refugees.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 20:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Once again, just make it ILLEGAL to wire money to Mexico. Allegedly these people come here to make money to support their families in Mexico. If they have no way of easily getting the money back to Mexico, they are not going to come here and let their families starve in Mexico.

Further, we need a National ID card linked to a biometric data base for everyone over the age of 16. No card, no work, no welfare, no school, no hospital, no anything but a quick trip to the nearest border.
Posted by: RWV || 03/31/2006 23:14 Comments || Top||


Down Under
"Experts" say Aussies not ready for Disaster
Australians are not ready for a disaster such as a terrorist attack or spread of bird flu to humans and should undergo their own emergency training so as not to be reliant on authorities, experts say.

Victoria's emergency services commissioner Bruce Esplin says the community should not rely solely on emergency services in a disaster.

Authorities had so capably handled emergencies in recent decades that the public had a false impression the work was best left to "the professionals", he said in a statement.

"Communities today should not be passive recipients of services, but should be active participants in determining their own safety outcomes," Mr Esplin said.
So Mates…make sure your guns are locked and loaded. Oh that’s right…sorry about that.

"Being aware and alert by having personal plans in place can be the difference between experiencing a scare and being part of a tragedy."

Meanwhile, Western Australia's Fire and Emergency Services Authority director Kevin Cuneo said many emergency services had a lack of understanding of what they were dealing with when they were called out to emergencies.

In a statement, Mr Cuneo said the "fear of the unknown" was hampering emergency services personnel from doing the job properly when they were called out to incidents involving explosives, chemicals or biological agents.

"During responses to ... incidents, some emergency service personnel are unwilling to commit in times of uncertainty due to the lack of understanding of what they are dealing with and the recognition of acceptable risk.

"This has also been demonstrated a number of times during the national counter-terrorism exercise program.
"It is a major issue facing all of those involved in emergency response."

RMIT University science, engineering and technology lecturer Neville Betts said the government and private sectors were ill-prepared for a disaster such as a terror attack or bird flu, which could cost lives.

"Many of the areas where the public routinely assembles, such as trains, shipping and high-rise buildings, have not yet addressed the need to ensure that their organisational arrangements do not fall short of what is required by the Victorian DISPLAN (disaster plan) arrangements," he said.
"Most tend to rely on the emergency services to pick up the slack.

"The emergency services are generally well-prepared but local staff (private and government non-emergency services workers) are not always properly trained.
Just ask Ray Nagin…On second thought don’t.

"That could lead to tragedy because the first few minutes before the emergency services arrive are vital."

Remember Brownies words as he testified before congress with a furrowed brow and perspiration on his upper-lip area. “Senator…after a disaster, if you think the government is going to be there with a sandwich and a bottle of water…your wrong.” (Dead Wrong)


Posted by: Chomoting Jomolet2781 || 03/31/2006 12:01 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Taylor's trial unlikely to start quickly
The chief prosecutor at the United Nations-backed War Crimes Tribunal in Sierra Leone says the trial of the former Liberian leader Charles Taylor is unlikely to begin for many months.
Comes as a surprise, doesn't it? Usually they do things so quickly. Why, just look at Slobo's trial...
Mr Taylor is facing trial for alleged war crimes. He has been handed over to the tribunal two days after going on the run in southern Nigeria, where he had been living in exile.
Caught him before he actually made it back to the bush. I really was surprised at that one.
The United Nations secretary-general, Kofi Annan, says the the trial of Taylor could be a watershed not just for Liberia, but for the whole of Africa. "I think this is a warning to all would be warlords that they will be held to account and that impunity will not be allowed to stand," he said. "Those days are gone and they should really think before they engage in any such adventure."
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 10:29 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "trial of the former Liberian leader Charles Taylor is unlikely to begin for many months"

"United Nations-backed War Crimes Tribunal"

Yep, those two sure go together.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/31/2006 19:18 Comments || Top||


France awaits Chirac surrender verdict on jobs law
France is keenly awaiting a presidential address tonight in which Jacques Chirac is expected to give his verdict on the highly contentious youth employment law. The country has been hit by a wave of protests and strikes over the measure. Yesterday France's highest constitutional body backed the law, passing it to Chirac to either sign or reject.

Polls show most people oppose it; there is little appetite for more disruption. In the streets of Paris some gave their views: "I think in the current context we should just give in try to calm minds," said one man. "We should work with real, concrete facts."

A woman said: "I don't think it's the head of state who deals with what's happening now. Whatever he says will change nothing."

Opposition leaders have joined unions in calling for Chirac to intervene, with Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin insisting he will not withdraw the legislation.

Socialist leader Francoise Hollande said France was gripped by a social and political crisis. "We have to get out of it and the only way is for the President to announce that he won't pass the law and will open a debate in parliament," he said. Another Socialist leader said: "We don't want to find ourselves back in the 19th century trying to deal with the 21st."
"We'd rather do what we've been doing, stuck firmly in the middle of the 20th century. Eventually what we're doing is going to work. All we have to do is keep doing it over and over again."
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 09:14 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Chirac will sign for the reasons some say he will cave. By not signing there will be a prolonged and undertermined period of protest while debate resumes.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 03/31/2006 12:32 Comments || Top||

#2  How to break up a bureaucracy: hire one civil servant, and order them to fire two.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 03/31/2006 16:49 Comments || Top||

#3  "We don't want to find ourselves back in the 19th century trying to deal with the 21st" - thats what Socialism inevitably results in, Chirac, its called REGRESSION, espec when Socialists already know there isn't enough $$$ in all the world and heaven to keep all the promises and obligations made in the name of power. IT also doesn't help to tell economy- and societally-dependent/
competitive males Government, the Welfare-Nanny State, women, children, elderly and Institutions, etc. don't need them for anything - its isn't Men's fault Socialists and aligned can't, don't, or won't understand the merits/premises of their own -Ism(s). Secularists arguing that God, Religion, and Christ, etal. is fake, so there's the future exploding Moon, the Asteroid(s), the Sun, Risng Seas. Solar Flares-Sunspots, and melting Ice caps, etal. to come - IFF MAN AND GOVERNMENT(S) BE GOD, GIVE TO CAESAR WHO IS ALSO GOD, GO STOP IT. SECULARISM > SCIENCE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK BACK TO YOU OR ANYONE, LET ALONE CONVERSE, PROPHECY, OR BE SENTIENT ACROSS TIME AND SPACE. GO SAVE THE SUN, MOON, and SEA, GO SAVE LIFE ITSELF!? "Let Justice be done, or the Heavens fall", so says Kevin Costner as in Oliver Stone's flick JFK back in the 60's - iff the Heavens fall, Justice was NOT done, the Truth(s) were NOT or NEVER told, correct!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/31/2006 23:32 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Obama Rallies Conn. Democrats, Throws Support To Lieberman (!!)
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 19:33 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wonder how the Hartford Courant is gonna spin this. They've been backing the 'dump Lieberman' faction.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/31/2006 20:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe this is why the democrat leaders say that they're going to hunt down and kill Obama.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 20:35 Comments || Top||

#3  You mean there's actually TWO sane, responsible adults in the Democratic Party????? Well, I'll be dipped in shit! That's amazing!!!

Posted by: Dave D. || 03/31/2006 21:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Up until now, Joe Lieberman was treated in reagrd to his support of the war in Iraq by the democrat party in a manner not unlike the Afghan who converted to Christianity was treated by the Sharia court.

But now, I get it - 'There is only one party but the democrats and Obama is its prophet.'
Posted by: WTF! || 03/31/2006 22:19 Comments || Top||

#5  There's hope for the universe yet, Dave D. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 22:21 Comments || Top||


Tipping point: AZ House oks bill making illegal immigrants felons
An illegal immigrant anywhere in Arizona would be guilty of a felony under a bill approved by the state House of Representatives. The bill, approved 32-26 yesterday, had been approved previously by the Senate but now returns to that chamber to consider changes made by the House. The bill would permit a first-time violator to be turned over to federal authorities, but also states the legislative intent that a repeat offender should be criminally prosecuted.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 19:23 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Less likely to be applied to regular illegals unless the authorities need an excuse to hold the individual. More likely to be used for coyotes, as an accessory to a felony with a count for each person they are caught smuggling. Start making the enablers pay dearly for modern 'slaving'.
Posted by: Glang Spurong7625 || 03/31/2006 19:31 Comments || Top||

#2  what will the Gov (who's been play-acting tough on illegals) do?
Posted by: Frank G || 03/31/2006 19:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Depends on how long the legislature can keep the bill bottled up, Frank.

Likely what'll happen is that it'll get signed and immediately thrown to the courts, with the governor's blessing.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/31/2006 20:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Joe Arpaio knows how to give them a wl;ecome they won't soon forget. Go get 'em, Joe.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/31/2006 20:54 Comments || Top||


Warrant to be issued for Cynthia McKinney
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Capitol Hill police plan to issue an arrest warrant today for Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.). The warrant is related to the incident Wednesday when McKinney allegedly slapped a Capitol Hill police officer.
well, it's a start
Charges could range from assault on a police officer, which is a felony carrying a possible five year prison term, to simple assault, which is a misdemeanor. McKinney has canceled a news conference that she had scheduled for this morning to discuss the incident.
"N-O C-O-M-M-E-N-T"
McKinney issued a statement yesterday saying she "deeply regrets" the confrontation with the police officer.
she's normally so much more "high class" of course
The six-term congresswoman apparently struck a Capitol Police officer when he tried to stop her from entering a House office building without going through a metal detector. Members of Congress wear identifying lapel pins and routinely are waved into buildings without undergoing security checks. The officer apparently did not recognize McKinney, she said in a statement. Asked on-camera Thursday by Channel 2 Action News whether she intended to apologize, McKinney refused to comment.
a real class act
"I know that Capitol Hill Police are securing our safety, and I appreciate the work that they do. I have demonstrated my support for them in the past and I continue to support them now," she said in the statement on her Web site.

Democrats and Republicans, meanwhile, engaged in a rhetorical scuffle over the incident. Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday labeled it "a mistake, an unfortunate lack of recognition of a member of Congress." She added that the police officer was not at fault. "I would not make a big deal of this," said Pelosi, D-Calif.
nancy...you missed a good opportunity to be quiet.
Ron Bonjean, spokesman for House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., responded: "How many officers would have to be punched before it becomes a big deal?"

Merle Black, a professor of politics at Emory University, says that while the scuffle was rare for an elected politician, it's unlikely to cost McKinney more than a few votes. Black says McKinney is in damage control -- cutting her losses by not insisting on right or wrong.
and she knows she can get those votes back easily by more 9/11 conspiracy mongering. she is the last thing the black community needs as their representative.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 03/31/2006 13:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Conspiracy theorizing by DU and Kos in 5, 4, 3…
Posted by: Korora || 03/31/2006 16:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Make it a rule:

You don't wear the members pin - you go thru the line just like any other Average-Joe.

Doesn't matter if your Cynthia McKinney, Drunken Ted, or Traitor John.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/31/2006 17:27 Comments || Top||

#3  takes a lot to combine that psycho-bitch 'tude with invented racial outrage, anti-semitism, anti-americanism, and low intelligence, and package it all in one person - two, counting Dad Billy
Posted by: Frank G || 03/31/2006 18:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Cynthia's innocent becuz she's a girl like Hillary or Mother Cindy, as well as an African-American, an African-Amer woman, plus a politician, ergo she like ZSA ZSA?/EVA GABOR? can slap cops around for not knowing who she was. In Clintonian Amerika, Cops/Judges/Law = Crooks and Mafiosi anyways so she can claim she nuthin' to anybody -like POTUS Bill CLinton, she told the truth = did she ???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/31/2006 21:38 Comments || Top||

#5  I'd pay $1,000 to see the Capitol Hill cops ruff and cuff that jerk with a few stick licks to the pumpkin thrown in for good measure. I'd really like to see her ass beat like a drum.
Posted by: Phiper Omuns2683 || 03/31/2006 21:55 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan inducts four women combat pilots
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 19:34 || Comments || Link || [17 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The air force academy is still male-dominated, and it is not clear what the real feelings of the male cadets have been to the induction of women into the fighter pilot programme. Officially, most have welcomed the move.

Even so, the fact that four women are now officially fighter pilots is a clear indication that the new policy of opening up the combat units of the Pakistani armed forces for women is here to stay.


Unofficially, they are the tea girls. The guys won't let them anywhere near a jet - haram you know.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 19:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Surely they couldn't have gotten through the training with out putting a few airplanes between their legs, though?
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 22:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Get used to it guys. Women are better suited physically to fly high performance aircraft. US fighter pilots just resisted because they didn't like the idea that the girls could not only fly better, but also looked prettier with the white silk scarves than they did.
Posted by: RWV || 03/31/2006 23:00 Comments || Top||


US, Australian troops wind up quake ops
You're welcome.
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gettnig practice for all those quakes in Iran?
Posted by: anonymous2u || 03/31/2006 10:59 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
FBI: Int'l scam targeting Islamic mosques broken
An international wire fraud scheme targeting Islamic institutions with a phony stranded-traveler plea, netting only small sums but hitting multiple victims over many years, has been disrupted by the arrest of its mastermind, the FBI said on Thursday.

Islamic advocates say Nazareth resident Mohammed Mustafa Agbareia, who was arrested in Canada and pleaded guilty March 1 in Alabama to one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, may have scammed more than $1 million from mosques and Islamic groups over nearly two decades. It's a living, I s'pose, and clearly the man isn't greedy.
He will be sentenced July 10 by US District Judge Charles Butler in Mobile, where he is in the custody of federal marshals.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 14:24 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thanks, G-men! Won't I sleep better tonight...
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/31/2006 15:57 Comments || Top||


Israel medics mull long-term care move for Sharon
Israeli doctors are preparing long-term care plans for comatose Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as his stand-in Ehud Olmert prepares to begin talks on forming a new government in his own right. A spokesman for Jerusalem's Hadassah hospital where Mr Sharon has been cared for since suffering a massive brain haemorrhage in January told AFP no final decision had been taken. But he said discussions were continuing while the 78-year-old premier's condition remained "serious but stable".

The top-selling Yediot Aharonot daily said it had been decided that Mr Sharon would be moved to the Tel Hashomer hospital in the commercial capital of Tel Aviv in the next two weeks to be cared for in the longer term. But the English-language Jerusalem Post said no decision had yet been taken by doctors and Sharon's sons Omri and Gilad on when and where he would be moved. Both papers said the premier was likely to undergo fresh surgery to reset a section of his skull that had been removed in January. The Post said that the bone tissue - amounting to a quarter of his skull - was being put back for "aesthetic purposes".
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 09:58 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  R.I.P Sharon. and thanks.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 21:02 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Thai vote unlikely to end protests
Posted by: Fred || 03/31/2006 21:13 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
3 strong quakes kill at least 66 in western Iran


At least 1,000 injured in temblors; 200 villages damaged or flattened.
TEHRAN, Iran - Three strong earthquakes and several aftershocks jolted western Iran overnight, killing at least 66 people and injuring about 1,200 others, state television reported Friday.

The initial quake of magnitude 4.7 struck a mountainous region in western Iran late Thursday. It was followed by a quake of magnitude 5.1 that struck Boroujerd and Doroud, two industrial cities in western Iran, at 11:06 p.m. local time Thursday, state television said.

A third temblor of magnitude 6.0 hit Doroud and surrounding villages at 4:47 a.m. local time on Friday, the television reported.
A total of 66 bodies had been recovered from houses in destroyed in Silakhor, a region north of Doroud, the television reported.
200 villages damaged
The provincial head of the Unexpected Disaster Committee, Ali Barani, said no fewer than 200 villages were damaged, and some were flattened.
Most of the 1,200 people injured had been in bed when the quake struck, the television said.
The quake in the middle of the night caused panic, with citizens in Doroud running out of their homes. Many spent the night in open space, residents said.
"We are afraid to get back home. I spent the night with my family and guests in open space last night," Doroud resident Mahmoud Chaharmiri told The Associated Press by telephone.
Twelve aftershocks were registered after the first quake, said Nabi Bidhendi, the head of Tehran Tehran University's Geophysics Institute.
Such quakes have killed thousands of people in the past in the countryside where houses are often built of mudbricks, but initial reports suggested the devastation had not been so widespread this time, Chaharmiri said.
The epicenter of Thursday night's quake was in the mountains south of Boroujerd and north of Doroud.
The U.S. Geological Survey reported a 5.7-magnitude quake at 4:47 a.m., followed by a 4.7-magnitude 15 minutes later. Their epicenters were 210 miles southwest of Tehran.
The area had been hit by a 4.7-magnitude quake the day before, the USGS said.
Hospitals filled to capacity
Disaster official Barani told the official Islamic Republic News Agency that rescue teams had been sent to the region to help the survivors. He said survivors were in urgent need of blankets, tents and food.
First television images of the quake showed survivors standing next to their destroyed houses in villages north of Doroud. The television also showed dozens of sheep and goats killed by the quake.
Barani said hospitals in the cities of Doroud and Boroujerd were full to their capacity and could not receive further injured, the television reported.
Officials recalled on doctors and nurses from vacation to help treat the injured. Iranians are celebrating Nowruz, or new year, and most government offices are closed and their staff on holiday.
Iran is located on seismic fault lines and is prone to earthquakes. It experiences at least one slight earthquake everyday on average.
In February 2005, a 6.4-magnitude quake rocked the town of Zarand in southern Iran, killing 612 people and injuring more than 1,400.
A magnitude-6.6 quake flattened the historic southeastern city of Bam in the same region in December 2003, killing 26,000 people.

Allah hates you, don't you see? I don't want one red cent of my money going there for relief.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 03/31/2006 07:36 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The television also showed dozens of sheep and goats killed by the quake.

WTF? Maybe the sheep and goats were in mudbrick stables.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/31/2006 11:25 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm curious as to whether or not this was the work of Allah. Any islamacists want to enlighten us?
Posted by: DoDo || 03/31/2006 11:51 Comments || Top||

#3  This doesn't have anything to do with underground testing in tunnels, like planned in our own Nevada desert does it? Can't we locate their origin and get the Iranian GPS coordinates?
Posted by: Danielle || 03/31/2006 16:06 Comments || Top||

#4  May these be precursors. Inshallah.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/31/2006 16:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Ahura Mazda wakes up. And He's very, very unhappy with what has been going on in Iran for the last 1400 years.
Posted by: gromgoru || 03/31/2006 19:46 Comments || Top||

#6  This doesn't have anything to do with underground testing in tunnels, like planned in our own Nevada desert does it?

Our seismic sensing apparatus allows us to easily distinguish between natural earth movements, large scale conventional explosives and nuclear tests. The waveform envelope contours for each of these three types of energy releases are distinctly different and easily distinguished from each other.

Had this been any sort of ordnance test it would have been leaked to the media already. Many other nations have detection equipment similar to ours. Besides, Iran already has a special test facility designed for the firing of the explosive focusing lenses used to initiate a nuclear explosion.
Posted by: Zenster || 03/31/2006 20:34 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
American Flag Prohibited At Colorado High School
LONGMONT, Colo. -- More than two dozen students walked out of Skyline High School Friday morning to protest what they say is a ban that doesn't allow the American flag to be flown on school grounds.

The principal said that the ban isn't just on American flags -- it's on all flags.

Several students who walked out of class Friday said that they were upset that Mexican flags can be waved around but that American flags couldn't. They said that school officials confiscated their American flags because they have become inflammatory because of recent immigration issues.

"When the immigration laws came out we noticed that a lot of Hispanics were waving Mexican flags and what we were thinking to ourselves is like, isn't the immigration law to stay in the country? You want to stay in America, correct? So I said, for every Mexican flag, you should have an American flag right next to it. So a few people went out and started waving American flags, and that's where everything bridged out," said Skyline student R.J. Fogal. "That's when they started telling us that we can't wave American flags, there's going to be no flags today, or everyone is going to be suspended -- whoever carries a flag."

"What we want to know is since when was it against the rules to have an American flag on a car, in a car, in your hands in a school?" said student William Cassity.

Skyline Principal Tom Stumpf said that the school enacted a ban this week that prohibits students to display, wear or fly any flag -- American or Mexican.

"The (policy) evolved because the flags were being used, not as a symbol of cultural heritage, but the flags were being used as symbols of bigotry, a symbol of hostility. They were being used to inflame different groups and we're simply not going to tolerate that at Skyline High School," Stumpf said.

"My paramount obligation, my solemn obligation at Skyline High School, is to provide a safe and secure environment and with the flags being used as a catalyst to stir up the students, to stir up the environment, I cannot condone that ... One flag was thrown into the face of another group and another flag was being brandished in front of another group and it was done to raise emotions, and we don't want that. We want respect -- that's our main goal at Skyline High School," he said.

The school has a diverse population and some students say there have been tensions between different ethnic groups because of the national immigration debate.

"I think our whole society is on different sides of the immigration issue and I can't control that. All I'm asking from our students is respect -- respect for one another, treating each other as they themselves want to be treated, treating each other decently, civilly," Stumpf said.

He said the students have a right to rally and those who walked out of class on Friday would not be punished.
A ban on students having flags is only acceptable if each and every classroom has an American flag, displayed properly.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 17:57 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WTF?
Posted by: 3dc || 03/31/2006 18:04 Comments || Top||

#2  I think it's time for us peasants to start marching, bearing pitchforks, torches and rope. Sheesh...
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/31/2006 18:08 Comments || Top||

#3  I take it they don't recite the 'pledge of Alligence' either.

I wonder what flag is on their flagpole? The white surrender flag?

Obviously this school doesn't need its Federal Funding - give it to a school which is proud to display the american flag.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/31/2006 18:10 Comments || Top||

#4  OMG! We forgot to ban torches and rope!
Posted by: Your New Feudal Overlords || 03/31/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#5  I live in east San Diego County - rural Santee, and teh Conquistas have no sway here - there were no marches at my kids' high school, nor at the other high school. This is driven in the cities by activists and Latino DJs on FM Radio
Posted by: Frank G || 03/31/2006 18:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Fire this stupid turd. The US Flag should be on display in every classroom and flown above the school. The Mexican flags should have to go. They are the problem.
Posted by: SPoD || 03/31/2006 19:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Is Mexico in on this? No really. Is this a related column, promised temporary rule of the continent. Swarm and conquer - very muslim-like.

I'm Canadian and haven't followed until the last few days. We've had our murdered couple and complete crap out of Fox and local officials.

Could this be, given all timing and approach, related?
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/31/2006 20:21 Comments || Top||

#8  No matter the issue, it still comes down to certain Illegals fighting to stay perm illegal, and perm publicly supported, and Americans taking perm care of non/Anti-Americans at Americans' time and tax dollar costs, where the ultimate benefit Americans can look forward to for all their appeasin' and concedin' is to lose their country, lose their freedoms and sovereignty, lose control of their own nation's economy, govt., and domestic affairs, and finally to be happily exterminated for the good of themselves, their own, and the world.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/31/2006 21:33 Comments || Top||

#9  It'll never happen JosephM. We're on to them. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 22:19 Comments || Top||

#10  Always happy to discover more sensible Canadians, Thinemp Whimble2412. I don't imagine this behaviour is directed from across the border, not even the suggestion to come out for the marches. The La Raza types think they can accomplish their Reconquista simply by immigration and high birth rates. Despite all the rhetoric, though, the US-born generation isn't at all interested in living under Mexican governance, since they hear how bad it is from their elders and the poor cousins back home. They just want to be catered to here, is all.

In my opinion, anyway.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 23:44 Comments || Top||

#11  The attraction is the power of numbers. They may even picture themselves as leaders within that power group...
Posted by: Omomoling Angereck3709 || 03/31/2006 23:47 Comments || Top||


ATTENTION RANTBURG MODERATOR
I have been commenting and posting under the name ryuge for a while but, since yesterday, whenever I hit the comment button, I am immediately directed to the following website:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/

I'm not sure if this redirect comes from your end or a problem on mine (I recently had to have my computer put back to previous default settings to get rid of the effect of some deleted spyware or virus). If this is something that happens to trolls or other unwanted guests, I would like to have the problem fixed, if possible.
That's my fault. I left the editors' page open, trying to track down a cookie bug, and somebody got in. I've un-pooplisted ryuge, .com, Shipman, and six or seven others. My apologies for the inconvenience. And if I find out who did it, they'll be permanently banned from Rantburg.
Posted by: ryuge || 03/31/2006 10:51 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sweet merciful crap! This sounds like an insider familiar with Rantburg did this. How dispicable. A lifetime ban is in order.
Posted by: Zenster || 03/31/2006 11:49 Comments || Top||

#2  You let Shipman off the list? God amighty thats crazy.
Posted by: 6 || 03/31/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||

#3  They need Floridians to balance out the other hooman species.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 03/31/2006 12:14 Comments || Top||

#4 
Rantburg has become a Rove operative. Nobody's safe..
Posted by: macofromoc || 03/31/2006 12:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Good Lord, Fred! trolls are banished to roadside america!?!?! have you no decency whatsoever!?!

;o)
Posted by: PlanetDan || 03/31/2006 12:57 Comments || Top||

#6  Say hello to Muffler Man for me, boys...
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/31/2006 13:01 Comments || Top||

#7  It's the wobbly white sphere for you, No. 6!
Posted by: No. 2 || 03/31/2006 13:18 Comments || Top||

#8  So, how was the roadside America site ?
Posted by: wxjames || 03/31/2006 13:41 Comments || Top||

#9  Remember all that Rantburg has not only Haxors who hate it, but some serious playas, too. Lots of things are said here that several countries would much prefer not be said.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 15:16 Comments || Top||

#10 
I'm insulted that I was not banned too.
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 03/31/2006 15:33 Comments || Top||

#11  Thanks for the prompt fix! I felt bad to think that the world might be deprived of my comments for any long period of time - plus I might have drowned in my own snarkiness.

As for your question wxjames, I didn't spend much time at the roadside site despite the lure of reading articles about such attractions as "Big Ice Cream Buckets" and a "Self-Kicking Machine". If I had wanted to see a self-kicking machine, I could just re-join the Democratic Party.
Posted by: ryuge || 03/31/2006 15:34 Comments || Top||

#12  Was my husband among those unpooped?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 03/31/2006 15:52 Comments || Top||

#13  Never that, Mrs. D. Fred's no dummy.
Posted by: Seafarious || 03/31/2006 16:03 Comments || Top||

#14 
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sinktrap. Further violations may result in
banning.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 03/31/2006 16:20 Comments || Top||

#15 
Redacted by moderator. Comments may be redacted for trolling, violation of standards of good manners, or plain stupidity. Please correct the condition that applies and try again. Contents may be viewed in the
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Posted by: Zenster || 03/31/2006 16:46 Comments || Top||

#16  Note: the previous two comments are hereby consigned to the sink trap on grounds of being off topic and contrary to good order and discipline here at the 'Burg. Both commenters are encouraged to continue civil and well-reasoned discourse in other threads, as long as they stay germane to the topics at hand. Thank you.
Posted by: Seafarious || 03/31/2006 16:54 Comments || Top||

#17  test,

BAN SHIPMAN and Mrs D!

/plotters of the secrete cabal »:-)
Posted by: RD troll test || 03/31/2006 17:13 Comments || Top||

#18  ahhhhh... that shipman is a clever one...
Posted by: Frank G || 03/31/2006 17:23 Comments || Top||

#19  I wouldn't mind learning if Zenstar' Glaze-Mecca types are in the majority.

OFF TOPIC: LtD, I challenge you to produce any of the very few posts where I actually mention a nuclear attack upon Mecca. Once you have located them, be so kind as to post them in context, along with your retraction. Your lame attempt to lump me into the "kill 'em all" category is just that, lame.

If you have any brains, you'll note that I consistently decry any first use of nuclear weapons against the Islamic countries. If you don't, well, let's just say that we've already gotten a good demonstration of that supposition.
Posted by: Zenster || 03/31/2006 16:46 Comments || Top||

#20  Moderators:
You might consider some polling here? I wouldn't mind learning if Zenstar' Glaze-Mecca types are in the majority.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 03/31/2006 16:20 Comments || Top||

#21  Screw glaze-mecca. I'd like to know who's preparing for a civil war in the USA.
Posted by: Foxtrot Uniform || 03/31/2006 16:55 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Aryan Brotherhood goes on trial in LA
Posted by: tipper || 03/31/2006 08:50 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well ain't they a good lookin crew. They look like a Doobie Brothers cover band...
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/31/2006 13:53 Comments || Top||

#2  no doubt about it. they're the superior race.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 03/31/2006 15:30 Comments || Top||


Mexican flag burned after students raise it over AZ school
Following a week of massive immigrant rights protests, a group of students in Apache Junction burned a Mexican flag, reported a local newspaper.

A Hispanic student had brought the flag to school Thursday morning in a response to what he said was a racist remark directed at him the day before. After he and other students raised the flag over Apache Junction High School, another group of students took it down and burned it, according to the East Valley Tribune newspaper.

The burning and ensuing shoving match between the two groups of students happened before most students arrived at the school.

The six students - three Hispanic and three white - will be disciplined, said school principal Chad Wilson. Officials with the Apache Junction Unified School District would not specify what kind of punishment the students face.

"I know (they) shouldn't have burned the Mexican flag," said sophomore Jacob Stewart, 16. "I heard it was raised above the American flag, and that just irked me."

The school will increase supervision because of the incident, Wilson said in a letter sent home to parents. The increased security will include four off-duty police officers the district hired as security guards, Wilson said.

District spokeswoman Carol Shepherd said the additional security was being brought in as a precaution. "It's one of those situations where if you didn't have additional security and something did happen, we'd be challenged by parents about why we didn't do anything," she said.

By early afternoon Thursday, district officials said the environment on campus had sufficiently calmed down.

About 17 percent of the overall student body is Latino, according to the district. Wilson said he e-mailed teachers separately Thursday about the incident, but left it up to them to decide if and how they should address the issue in their classrooms.

He emphasized that six out of the school's 1,618 students were involved in the flag fight, and many students might not have the same problems dealing with the racially charged immigration debate.

School flagpoles have been lightning rods across the country this week, including an incident in which a Houston high school principal was disciplined after he flew a Mexican flag underneath his campus' U.S. and state flags.

A new political awareness among high school students has also been grabbing attention, as thousands of teenagers in Arizona and other states have walked out of classes to join rallies nationwide.

Last Friday, more than 20,000 people protested in downtown Phoenix against a bill that would have made it a felony to be an illegal immigrant in the United States.

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#1  Gee, wonder what "hate crime" the AZ Repulsive is going to whine about in the Sunday editorials....
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 03/31/2006 8:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Battle of the burning flags in 5... 4...
Posted by: eLarson || 03/31/2006 8:50 Comments || Top||

#3  "I know (they) shouldn't have burned the Mexican flag," said sophomore Jacob Stewart, 16. "I heard it was raised above the American flag, and that just irked me."

It’s called being a patriot son, listen to your instincts they are right on this one. And by the way, it’s NOT WRONG to burn the flag of a foreign country that is flown above the American flag on US soil. Good job to you kid, you understand it clearer than most!
Posted by: 49 Pan || 03/31/2006 8:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Demographic shifts in the Phoenix (sometimes pronounced "Pee-nis") Metro area have resulted in sometimes silly efforts to cater to (patronize) ethnic groups.

One such example was Marcos de Niza high school, which when built was going to have an almost entirely Mexican-American student body and faculty. So the school was built and decorated with Mexican culture in mind.

10 years later, the school was almost entirely white. However, in that same time another school in the area which had been almost entirely white became both black and Mexican.

With such demographic shifts, unless you are a longtime resident, you probably have no idea even where the local minorities live. This tends to take a lot of steam out of racial problems, except, ironically, in the high schools, where ethnic minorities are concentrated.

Since the Metro area is in total almost 1,000 square miles, this can sometimes get weird. When Vietnam fell, almost 60,000 Vietnamese relocated to the Valley of the Sun, and nobody noticed.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Apache Junction

Wait till the real native Americans start to way into the discussion. Many have no love for their former hispanic overlords and the tribes keep alive the memories.
Posted by: Omaiting Shineper6088 || 03/31/2006 9:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Good. You don't go to another country, raise your country above the host country and expect to walk the next day. I would expect a severe beating or worse if I did that in Germany, France, China or others. I expect no less here.
Posted by: DarthVader || 03/31/2006 9:43 Comments || Top||

#7  We only burn our own flags, we don't burn others.

When we start, the world will take notice.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 03/31/2006 10:55 Comments || Top||

#8  When Vietnam fell, almost 60,000 Vietnamese relocated to the Valley of the Sun, and nobody noticed.

Maybe that's because they settle in, go to school, learn english, get jobs and don't demand that everyone notice them and change their lifestyles for them.
Posted by: 2b || 03/31/2006 11:25 Comments || Top||

#9  massive immigrant rights protests

Overstatement alert.
Posted by: DoDo || 03/31/2006 11:50 Comments || Top||

#10  ungrateful brats, these people need to realize that they are illegally in this country, illegally! As in NOT legal...we need to realize that fact and face up to our own laws and enforce them accordingly instead of continuing to hire them and saving a buck, the real cost is born by the rest of "us" citizens, not that I dont like Mexicans and Mexico, it's the illegal part I have a problem with. Immegrate LEGALLY and more power to you amigos.
Posted by: bk || 03/31/2006 12:50 Comments || Top||

#11  When I went to school, not hell or high water would postpone the ass kicking to follow.
Posted by: wxjames || 03/31/2006 13:47 Comments || Top||

#12  "Wait till the real native Americans start to way into the discussion. Many have no love for their former hispanic overlords and the tribes keep alive the memories."

Geronimo was a medicine man until his wife and children were murdered during a "peaceful" trading encounter in 1858.
Posted by: Ernest Brown || 03/31/2006 15:58 Comments || Top||

#13  ...by Mexicans
Posted by: Ernest Brown || 03/31/2006 16:45 Comments || Top||

#14  First of all, Apaches see themselves as just above Mexicans on the food chain. As late as Pershing's expedition into Mexico after Poncho Villa, the Apache tribes just assumed that they would be accompanying the US Army. When politely told that their services would not be required, there was considerable consternation, along with suggestions that they go anyway, if for no other reason than to preserve the balance of nature by culling as many Mexicans as they could capture.

That being said, Geronimo was small fry. Far more impressive was Cochise, who was to Geronimo as a General is to a Captain. There is a reasonably good Wiki on Cochise, but it understates many of his accomplishments.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 21:04 Comments || Top||

#15  "Just above" or "far above" Anonymoose?
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/31/2006 22:21 Comments || Top||

#16  Well, in Mexican movies, if they want a really evil villain, usually chief henchman, he will be an Apache. They often fought the Mexican army to a standstill. Very tough people.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/31/2006 23:01 Comments || Top||

#17  I would've put that burning flag out with water (after it had ran through my kidneys first).
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 03/31/2006 23:38 Comments || Top||



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