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2019-01-08 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

The Overblown And Misleading Issue Of Global Warming

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Posted by Besoeker 2019-01-08 03:35|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Andra J. Wolfe, Freedom's Laboratory, The Cold War Sruggle for the Soul of Scientists, page 15:

At the point in the project when I interview Grobman, I still thought it important to understand whether scientists realized they were working with covert government agencies. I was, in other words, still looking for heroes and goats. It was only once I got deeper into the archival and declassified records that I understood how far a distinction between overt, covert, and private propaganda activities missed the mark. Gorbman, like Glass, Polanyi, Rabinowitch, and Brock, saw no conflict in accepting any kind of US government funds to promote his version of scientific freedom, so long as he retained direct control over the message being disseminated. Put another way, these scientists' belief in their autonomy as scientists - their commitment to scientific freedom - limited their ability to recognize that their ideas were being put to use in campaigns over which they had no control.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-01-08 04:02|| 2019-01-08 04:02|| Front Page Top

#2 During my lifetime, this 'phenomenon' has changed from 'global cooling' to 'global warming', then to 'climate change'. Hmmm - I'm supposed to believe the climate did a complete 180 in the span of mere decades, a relative blink of the eye in geological terms?

The solution's always been the same - raise taxes and expand some level of government. The fact that the label's changed at least twice would tell a reasonably suspicious person that you're being conned.

Posted by Raj 2019-01-08 06:08|| 2019-01-08 06:08|| Front Page Top

#3 The system is set up to weed out real scientists as undergraduates - so what did you expect?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-01-08 06:42|| 2019-01-08 06:42|| Front Page Top

#4 dN=dT
Changes in the amount of atmosphere change the pressure (as gravity aint changing) and that says how much heat the atmosphere can hold, which defines the temperature.

The varying determinant of atmosphere? Water vapour, of course water vapour forms clouds that prevent more water vapour and the system stabilises around that.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-01-08 07:32|| 2019-01-08 07:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Said in part fact and part humor.
Regarding Global Cooling, Global Warming, Climate Change or whatever they dream up as they are disproven again and again. The human population has increased from 2.3 Billion to over 6.4 Billion in the last 100+/- years and each human body generates 25,000 BTUs. That is 3.9B x 25K more BTU's being released on the environment. An this is not counting the raise in needed food animals to feed them.

Or how about the increase use of air conditioning (HVAC) displacing on average 1300 sq/ft back into the environment for the estimated 10 billion HVAC buildings in the world.

It seems what we need is not a Carbon Tax for some some politicians spend and funnel to their donors. But a good clean quick War, or plague to drop the world population back to 1 to 2 billion.

Posted by Steve Jackson 2019-01-08 07:55|| 2019-01-08 07:55|| Front Page Top

#6 @Steve Jackson

Well volunteered. Have your family turn up to the camp and step into the "showers".

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-01-08 08:12|| 2019-01-08 08:12|| Front Page Top

#7 Think of the carbon footprint to build Camp Showers for 4 Billion☻.

How about DNA modification that limits a female to 2 births.☺ It would trim the population to 1/2 in 20 years or so given illness, defects, accidents and etc...

Posted by Steve Jackson 2019-01-08 08:46|| 2019-01-08 08:46|| Front Page Top

#8 The science is SETTLED™.

Except the temperature in northern Europe was 1C warmer in Roman times than now and there were no Roman SUVs driving around...

PURGE THAT STUDY!! DESTROY THE HERETIC!!!!

Posted by DarthVader 2019-01-08 09:17|| 2019-01-08 09:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Maybe the temperature has something to do with the sun?!?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-01-08 09:21|| 2019-01-08 09:21|| Front Page Top

#10 *GASP* Bright Pebbles, how DARE YOU speak the truth. Never mind that during the hottest years of the 90's the temperatures of Mars and other planetary bodies near the sun also increased. It's mere chance.

Posted by Silentbrick 2019-01-08 09:33|| 2019-01-08 09:33|| Front Page Top

#11

Maybe the temperature has something to do with the sun?!? Posted by Bright Pebbles

Could this explain the popularity of awnings?

Posted by Besoeker 2019-01-08 09:38|| 2019-01-08 09:38|| Front Page Top

#12 You looked at me with despair, and now see I sought balance, not destruction from GURPS.

Posted by Thanos 2019-01-08 09:48|| 2019-01-08 09:48|| Front Page Top

#13 Mars has showed heating and cooling trends similar to the Earth.
Saturn's rings are now showing slight signs of diminishing and show real signs in a few million years.
These are not the results of man-made anything. They might not be related to what is going on upon Earth but any scientist that hand-waves them away is a zealot and not a scientist.

Posted by rjschwarz 2019-01-08 10:39|| 2019-01-08 10:39|| Front Page Top

#14 Let's say for the sake of an argument they are right. That actual claim of high carbon would be caused by overpopulation.

Not a word about that one from the sky is falling crowd. Exposing the major flaw at it's base.

Politicizing science is not science.

Posted by Woodrow 2019-01-08 10:48|| 2019-01-08 10:48|| Front Page Top

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