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Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian Sub QA/QC Still Substandard - 20+ die
RIP to the sailors condemned to serve on Vlad's coffins. HT Drudge
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2008 20:33 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6487 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Russian sites say it's the Nerpa, an Akula 2 attack sub. It's also the sub the Russians are refurbing for the Indians.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2008 21:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Nov 1, 2008: Indian Navy crews to move to Russia to start training on Chakra
Batches of Indian naval personnel are to shortly leave for the Russia's far eastern port of Vladivostok to train on board the Chakra, (formerly the Nerpa) a Russian Akula-2 nuclear powered attack submarine which is to be transferred to India on a 10-year lease next year.

The Nerpa was launched at the Komsomolsk on-Amur shipyard in June this year after which she began harbour trials. Earlier this week, the shipyard announced that the submarine had been shifted out of the shipyard to a maintenance facility in the Primorye territory near Vladivostok for trials in the Sea of Japan.


The Indians just missed a bullet. Not so fortunate for the Russian crew.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2008 21:23 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Delhi shrugs off Obama call that never came
WASHINGTON: In the short saga of the phone call which hasn't materialized so far, the mandarins are having a good laugh over pundits who have gotten their knickers in a twist.

Turns out that the high priests of Indian diplomacy are not as perturbed as pundits in the media over America's president-elect Barack Obama not telephoning Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, although he has spoken to 15 other world leaders, including Pakistan's Asif Ali Zardari, in the past two days.

"We should be quite relieved that we are not in the same crisis league, right?" one official joked, expanding on the new diplomatic adage that "it is better to suffer from US inattention than US attention."

The official, a key figure in the US-India loop, did not offer any explanation why Obama had not called Singh, but said New Delhi was happy it was placed in the same league as Beijing and Moscow, the other capitals Obama was yet to reach. In a more serious vein, another official explained that "mutually convenient times" could not be found for the call before Singh left for the Gulf region on Friday.

The US President-elect phoned leaders of Australia, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Israel, Japan, Mexico and South Korea on Thursday and followed it up with calls to President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi of Italy, President Lech Kaczynski and Prime Minister Donald Tusk of Poland, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero of Spain, and Pakistan's Asif Ali Zardari on Friday as he began to connect with the world.

Some pundits have interpreted Obama not calling Singh as an affront and an indication that India will not be a priority for the new Democratic dispensation, but Indian officials were not particularly agitated, saying the media was just "over-analyzing" the matter. "Of course we are not in the same league as South Korea, Australia and New Zealand and we are happy not to be," the first official told ToI.

Obama's transition office did not respond to messages seeking details of the call schedule.

Prime Minister Singh in the meantime has left New Delhi on a maiden three-day visit to the energy-rich Gulf region where he will be talking to leaders of Muscat, Oman and Qatar. Modern communication facilities do not preclude a Singh-Obama conversation on the go, but the Indian side is not holding its breath, although the second official expected it to take place soon.

The Prime Minister is scheduled to be in Washington this coming weekend for the G-20 summit convened by President Bush, when there is a chance he will meet with Obama, since Bush has said the president-elect will be involved in the deliberations. It's another matter whether the President-elect would want to be involved in the meeting.

Obama has also written a letter to Singh during the latter's visit here in September, contents of which are being parsed for signs of which way future US-India ties will go in a Democratic dispensation.

But a former aide to Prime Minister Singh, who pointed out that Obama's first 100 days in office will coincide with the UPA government's last 100 days, surmises that ties between the two countries have reached a stage where change in governments will not make substantial difference.

The two officials who spoke to ToI on background also said exchanges between the President-elect and the Prime Minister had been warm and friendly and New Delhi did not particularly anticipate any backslide in the excellent relations it has enjoyed with Washington in recent years. The Prime Minister even wrote a personal letter to Obama with condolences on his grandmother's death earlier in the week.
Posted by: john frum || 11/08/2008 14:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6481 views] Top|| File under:

#1  he didn't call me either. I think we both know it wouldn't have gone well.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2008 16:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Nobody told him India is a country---one of the most important in the World (and not just because Aishwarya Rai lives there :-))?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/08/2008 16:47 Comments || Top||

#3  W. Bush's opening of India, when nobody else in Washington saw its value, is one of the crown jewels of his presidency.

However, opportunities are fleeting, and Obama may have just blown the possibility of India being our ally, instead of the Chinese.

This shows what happens when the president and his friends are utterly ignorant of foreign policy.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/08/2008 17:39 Comments || Top||

#4  #3. This shows what happens when the president and his friends are utterly ignorant of foreign policy. Surely, you don't include Slo Joe, the nation's foremost foreign policy expert, in that group of ignoramuses. s/
Posted by: GK || 11/08/2008 20:29 Comments || Top||


Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pak: Pranab
Kolkata (PTI): Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan which has to be sorted out between the two countries, External Affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee said here on Saturday.

"Essentially it has been stated that it is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan," Mukherjee said when asked to comment on US President-elect Barack Obama's reported desire to appoint former US President Bill Clinton as a special envoy on Kashmir.

The problem has to be resolved under the Shimla agreement and subsequently the Lahore agreement, besides the series of discussions which had taken place including within the framework of the composite dialogue, he told reporters on the sidelines of the curtain raiser for the BIMSTEC summit 2008 here.

On the issue of Obama discouraging outsourcing by US companies, Mukherjee said it was the internal economic matter of that country and would comment on it when needed.
Posted by: john frum || 11/08/2008 14:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6466 views] Top|| File under:


Maulana Aziz shifted to Bahria Town residence
The government on Friday shifted former Lal Masjid cleric Maulana Abdul Aziz from a resthouse in Islamabad to his residence in Bahria Town. A Lal Masjid spokesman said the cleric's release was being negotiated with the administration since long and the administration had finally shifted him to his new house. Government sources said the government was considering releasing Abdul Aziz in a phased process, where in the first phase, he would be shifted to his Bahria Town house, and in the second, sent to Saudi Arabia.
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Bahria Town
MAULANA ABDUL AZIZLearned Elders of Islam
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
European MPs reach blockaded Gaza by sea
A boat carrying pro-Palestinian activists and European politicians was allowed to dock in Gaza on Saturday despite a strict Israeli blockade, in the third such voyage in less than three months.

The 20-metre (65-foot) ship "Dignity" arrived in Gaza at 9:30 am (0730 GMT) after departing from Cyprus on Friday to protest against the Israeli sanctions imposed after the Islamist Hamas movement seized the Gaza Strip in June 2007. On board were 11 European politicians, most of them British, and activists of the US-based Free Gaza Movement who last month completed a second successful attempt to reach the Gaza Strip.

The ship, flying the flags of several countries including Britain, the United States and Canada alongside Palestinian flags, was greeted with little fanfare by Hamas officials and police forces, but few civilians. The politicians plan to visit hospitals to deliver a tonne of medical supplies and three scanners for use in treating spinal injuries. They also plan to meet some of the 700 students who have been denied the right to leave Gaza and study at universities that have accepted them.
Make sure you stop at the grocery stores and the shopping malls ...
In addition to the British politicians, parliamentarians from Italy, Switzerland and Ireland also made the overnight voyage. "This is an historic time as we have European members of parliament going to Gaza to draw international attention to Israel's collective punishment of 1.5 million Palestinians," Lord Nazir Ahmad, Labour member of Britain's House of Lords and head of the delegation, told AFP. He described the Gaza Strip as the "largest prison in the world," but said "even prisoners have rights -- it's even worse than that."
"It's like the holocaust, plus a meteor impact, plus armageddon . . . only worse. Here's some band-aids."
British MP Clare Short, a former minister for international development, said the trip was necessary because "the international community has not done its job in upholding international law. All we can do is show our solidarity and report back to our parliaments because doing nothing would be collusion."

The voyage is the third such trip by the Free Gaza Movement in as many months to protest against the Israeli sanctions imposed after the Islamist Hamas movement seized power there in June 2007. Israel had warned the activists ahead of the two previous journeys not to enter the closed military zone it maintains around the Gaza Strip, but it did not obstruct either voyage.

Israel has sealed Gaza off from all but limited humanitarian aid since Hamas -- which is sworn to destroying the Jewish state -- drove out forces loyal to Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas in a week of deadly street fighting.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/08/2008 08:30 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6464 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Explain to me why they couldn't just go thru the Egyptian border?
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/08/2008 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Now don't let 'em back out.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/08/2008 9:49 Comments || Top||

#3  And at the same time in Darfur...
Posted by: JFM || 11/08/2008 9:51 Comments || Top||

#4  "the international community has not done its job in upholding international law. All we can do is show our solidarity and report back to our parliaments because doing nothing would be collusion."

Uhh, excuse me but isn't that part of the argument for the war on terrorism, the Taliban, Saddam, Iran, North Korea, and others who thumb their noses at international law and the rights of the rest of us to live? Anti-Americanism is so hypocritical and illogical, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out why the international/European model is considered superior and essential in uniting the world.
Posted by: Thealing Borgia122 || 11/08/2008 11:21 Comments || Top||


Jordan's Islamists plan to break Gaza siege
Jordan's opposition Islamic Action Front said on Thursday it is planning a trip to the Gaza Strip from the southern Red Sea port of Aqaba in a bid to break an Israeli blockade of the impoverished Palestinian territory. "We are currently preparing for the trip and collecting aid for our brothers in Gaza to break Israel's unjust and inhuman siege," Rheil Gharibeh, spokesman for the powerful Islamist party, told AFP.

Gharibeh, whose party is the political arm of Jordan's Muslim Brotherhood and has six seats in the 110-member lower house of parliament, did not give a date for the trip but said it would be by sea from Aqaba port. "Politicians, unionists and opposition party leaders are expected to join us in a bid to draw the world's attention to the crisis in Gaza," he said.

Pro-Palestinian activists from around the world have sailed to Gaza on two separate trips in as many months and a third is due to take place on Friday. A dozen politicians from Britain, Italy, Switzerland and Ireland plan to set sail to Gaza from the Mediterranean island of Cyprus to protest against Israeli sanctions imposed after the Islamist Hamas movement seized power last year in the impoverished territory of 1.5 million residents.
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Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6461 views] Top|| File under: Muslim Brotherhood

#1  Time for a little UDT work.
Posted by: RWV || 11/08/2008 9:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Now these guys I'd sink.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/08/2008 13:17 Comments || Top||


Rice promises 'Palestinian state coming soon'
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Friday cautioned Israel about continued building in Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank. "Settlement activity, both actions and announcements, is damaging"to peace prospects, Rice told a joint news conference with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

She denied the Israeli-Palestinian peace process she sponsored was a failure, saying it should lay the ground for an eventual deal.

Rice said Palestinians should "soon" have their own state, though she has made it clear she does not expect a breakthrough before Barack Obama moves into the White House.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6463 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  Kishta.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/08/2008 4:04 Comments || Top||

#2  What does Kishta mean?
Posted by: .5MT || 11/08/2008 8:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh! I googled! It means cat! Guess what fornax caro means?
Posted by: .5MT || 11/08/2008 8:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Kishta is "go away" in feline.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/08/2008 10:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Rice no longer matters, so what she says is superfluous.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/08/2008 10:39 Comments || Top||

#6  So she's waiting for Obamessiah, too. State Department, past and present, must be swooning as they await inauguration.
Posted by: Thealing Borgia122 || 11/08/2008 11:03 Comments || Top||

#7  Exactly it's part of the grand plot.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/08/2008 11:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Comming Soon!
To a Refugee Camp Near You!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/08/2008 12:29 Comments || Top||

#9  A state? Run by people who could not organize a Cub Scout pack without murdering each other? I hold my breath in gleeful anticipation. Not!
Posted by: SteveS || 11/08/2008 14:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Why does she care?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/08/2008 15:33 Comments || Top||

#11  Why does she care?

Watch some videos of her with Abbas.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/08/2008 16:31 Comments || Top||

#12  Yeah, Paleo state, coming soon, like an inexpensive, efficient Sterling Engine.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/08/2008 19:31 Comments || Top||


Hamas warns Fatah on arrests
Hamas says it will boycott next week's Palestinian reconciliation talks if Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party does not stop arresting its members.
That makes sense. How they gonna go to the talks if they're cooling their heels in the calaboose?
So have Hamas arrest some of their boys and have the talks in jail. Must I think of everything...
Chicago City Council somehow manages ...
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6485 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


Israeli said to be set to attack Iran
An Israeli academic says the time before new US President Barack Obama is sworn in is an "attractive date" for Israel to attack Iran.
Of course. The time immediately after the election, when the new president doesn't yet have his feet on the ground and the lame duck sitting president is at his lamest would be the perfect time to take decisive action against a threat the two don't agree on. Everybody knows that.
What would we do without academics ...
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6498 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  What would we do without academics ...Or politicians?

Well, Barry you will almost be in the catbird seat on January 19th. The question is what would you do on the 20th? Welcome to the big league. You wanted the job bad and now you have it.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/08/2008 16:48 Comments || Top||

#2  I just hope and pray somebody is thinking about those Forward Operating Bases (FOBS) in Iraq and our troops that man them. We've got a lot of good soldiers there who will be at risk from missile attacks.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/08/2008 19:25 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Obama says Iranian nukes 'unacceptable'
U.S. President-elect Barack Obama said Friday that Iran's development of nuclear weapons was "unacceptable" and the Islamic Republic must end its "support of terrorist organizations."

Obama said he would be reviewing a letter from Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, congratulating him on his election, and would "respond appropriately." But he said the U.S. approach to Iran could not be done in a "knee-jerk" fashion. "I think we've got to think it through," he said.

At his first news conference since winning Tuesday's election, Obama said he was moving with "all deliberate haste" to fill cabinet positions in his administration and expected to be announcing names within weeks.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6463 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Or?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/08/2008 4:14 Comments || Top||

#2  "or else I'll blind you with the sunshine coming outta my ass!"
Posted by: Ptah || 11/08/2008 5:32 Comments || Top||

#3  "I think we've got to think it through," he said.

Gee, ya think?

What a thoughtful guy!
Posted by: Speater Black2749 || 11/08/2008 7:52 Comments || Top||

#4  I thought we ... "could have just one President at a time." I wonder how that security clearance background investigation is coming, subject interviews, etc?

Posted by: Besoeker || 11/08/2008 8:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Wheels within wheels, nothing is ever has it seems. He was really sending a message to his keepers in NAMEYOURCOUNTRYHERE.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/08/2008 8:42 Comments || Top||

#6  "or else I'll blind you with the sunshine coming outta my ass!"

Hilarious!
Posted by: Almostout || 11/08/2008 13:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Snark of the Week Award goes to Ptah! Well done, me lad! Well done! ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/08/2008 19:33 Comments || Top||

#8  You know if the poor bastard had an ounce of sense, he'd keep his bloody yap buttoned up. At least until he's had a opportunity to be briefed and make some sound assesssments. Nothing like being in over your head before your feet are even wet, and then letting everyone know it.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/08/2008 19:52 Comments || Top||

#9  Just include Dinnerjacket in the Fairness Doctrine. Problem solved.
Posted by: Skunky Glins 5*** || 11/08/2008 20:34 Comments || Top||


Syria: Lebanese militants behind deadly blasts, claims govt
(AKI) - The Syrian government has claimed that a militant belonging to Fatah al-Islam, an Al-Qaeda inspired group was behind the September bombings that killed 17 people and injured 65 others in the capital, Damascus. Syrian state television on Thursday showed what it claimed to be 12 members of Fatah al-Islam confessing they had planned the attack.

The militants interviewed also claimed that one of Fatah al-Islam's financial sources is the Future Movement or Tayyar al-Mustaqbal, a Lebanese political movement led by Saad Hariri, son of slain Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri.
Most of the people shown on TV were Syrian nationals, Palestinian refugees and a Yemeni national.

One of the militants, Abdel Baqi Hussein, a Syrian national claimed that the suicide bomber was a Saudi Arabian citizen known as Abu Aisha Abu Bandar Jazrawi and that the explosives used in the attack were smuggled from neighbouring Lebanon. "The objective was to rattle the Syrian regime," said Baqi Hussein.
I'm guessing the al-Qaeda boys are even less enthralled with Alawites as they are with Shi'a ...
The militants interviewed also claimed that one of Fatah al-Islam's financial sources is the Future Movement or Tayyar al-Mustaqbal, a Lebanese political movement led by Saad Hariri, son of slain Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri.
Oh what a convenient accusation, just as Syrian troops reach the border ...
Another militant, Mahmoud Hussein, said there were plans to carry out attacks in Syria against security buildings, British and Italian diplomats and vehicles carrying security personnel, said Syria's state news agency Sana on Friday.

One of the terrorists claimed that another source of financing of Fatah al-Islam came from Gulf citizens who were members of the militant group.

Baqi Hussein also said that the car used in the bombing was a stolen Iraqi-registered taxi that operates the Damascus-Baghdad route. The 220 kilogrammes of explosives were reportedly packed in a large sports utility vehicle and detonated by the suicide bomber.

The explosion took place on 27 September at the junction between Damascus international airport and a popular Shia shrine frequented by Iranians, Iraqis and Lebanese, called Sayyida Zeinab in the area of Kazzaz. It was the deadliest bomb attack in Syria by Islamist militants in two decades and the third major attack this year.

Fatah al-Islam emerged in November 2006 when it split from Fatah al-Intifada (Fatah Uprising), a Syrian-backed Palestinian group based in Lebanon.

During a bloody standoff with authorities at the Palestinian refugee camp, Nahr al-Bared, in northern Lebanon last year, about 400 people, mainly militants and soldiers, died in the violence and some 40,000 people were displaced.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6497 views] Top|| File under: Fatah al-Islam

#1  I think Harari's fate was sealed on November 4th.
Posted by: Sonny Ebbeamp1305 || 11/08/2008 8:10 Comments || Top||



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