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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Virginia Earthquake Rattles East Coast
Residents from North Carolina to Maryland were shaken Tuesday by a moderate earthquake that caused minor damage along the East Coast.
The U.S. Geological Survey said the quake, with a preliminary magnitude of 4.5, was centered about 28 miles west of Richmond.
I felt this.That was a first!
Posted by: TS || 12/09/2003 9:15:44 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Our building shook - twice; one lady said her desk moved. We decided it was an earthquake and went back to work.

My favorite part was seeing people from another building outside on Main Street standing around on the sidewalk - really smart place to stand if you think the building's going to fall down. (not!) Any excuse to get out of work, I guess.

I guessed a 4; damn, I'm good! :-p

Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/09/2003 23:08 Comments || Top||

#2  I didn't even notice it...
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2003 23:54 Comments || Top||


Ain’t no drag . . . Papa’s got a brand new (diplomatic) bag!
Agence France-Presse, EFL
US SECRETARY of State Colin Powell has named James Brown, the so-called "Godfather of Soul", to a new and unusual, but apparently fictitious, senior diplomatic position, the State Department said today. Spokesman Richard Boucher confirmed that Powell had indeed appointed Brown to be the first US "secretary of soul and foreign minister of funk" but said the job description for the post had not yet been drawn up. Powell made Brown’s appointment public on Saturday while hosting a dinner for winners of the annual Kennedy Centre Honours - awarded to US artists and performers for outstanding work - of which Brown was one this year. "James, you know, I really could use you," Powell told Brown, according to a transcript of his remarks at the dinner released by the State Department today. "I could use you on those diplomatic conferences that I have to go to, sitting there all day long (in) meetings that went on forever and ever," he said to laughter from the guests. "Man, you could have livened up things at the end of a long day, when we’re all dying to reach an agreement on something!" Powell said, before announcing: "Godfather, I hereby appoint you secretary of soul and foreign minister of funk."
Secretary Powell was obviously making a joke, and it appears the AFP newsweasel reporter missed the humor. Still, "Secretary of Soul and Foreign Minister of Funk." Has a nice ring to it. I feel good!
Posted by: Mike || 12/09/2003 10:03:11 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The Hardest Working Man in Diplomacy"
Posted by: mojo || 12/09/2003 11:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Two words, James: Diplomatic Immunity
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 13:08 Comments || Top||

#3  I have a good sense of humor, but I really don't find this very funny at all.
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 13:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Mike,
Thank you for inspiring a new party game just in time for Christmas season.Match a celebrity with department of government.Some of mine:
Ted Nugent-ATF
Bobby Brown-Agriculture
Hillary Clinton-Child Welfare
Rush Limbaugh-FDA
Ted Turner-Press Secretary
Paris Hilton-PBS
Psychic Hotline-CIA
Al Gore-Patent Office

You can offend everybody,both left and right can play.Or you could add wrestlers to mix:
The Rock-Dept.of Defence
Stone Cold Steve Austin-State Department.
Vince MacMahon(sp.?)-Treasury

Posted by: Stephen || 12/09/2003 14:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Personally, I'm looking forward to Secretary of Defense William "Refrigerator" Perry, . . . no, wait, someone already did that gag!
Posted by: Mike || 12/09/2003 14:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Isn't it nice to know that SecState Powell has a bit of funk to him and is a little "black?"
He was starting to remind me too much of Don "No Soul" Jackson from the movie "Amazon Women on the Moon."
Congrats to James Brown,too--he was long overdue for his great contributions to American culture.
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 12/09/2003 15:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Isn't it nice to know that SecState Powell has a bit of funk to him and is a little "black?" Hopefully this is a sarcastic comment and not another chapter in the ongoing misguided saga to define the "black" man.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 17:26 Comments || Top||

#8  Madonna: Secretary of the Navy
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 18:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Ship - doncha think Cher sorta pre-empted that spot with her music video performance on the Battleship Missouri? All those sailors and turrets... she seemed to be into it...
Posted by: .com || 12/09/2003 19:10 Comments || Top||

#10  Cher? Eh, one battleship. Madonna knows what to do with a fleet.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/09/2003 21:30 Comments || Top||


It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Kwanzaa
[shamelessly stolen from relapsedcatholic.com]

Twas the night before Kwanzaa
And all through the ’hood,
Maulana Karenga was up to no good.

He’d tortured a woman and spent time in jail.
He needed a new scam that just wouldn’t fail.
("So what if I stuck some chick’s toe in a vice?
Nobody said revolution was nice!")

The Sixties were over. Now what would he do?
Why, he went back to school -- so that’s "Dr." to you!
He once ordered shootouts at UCLA
Now he teaches Black Studies just miles away.

Then to top it all off, the good Doctor’s new plan
Was to get rid of Christmas and piss off The Man.

Karenga invented a fake holiday.
He called the thing Kwanzaa. "Hey, what’s that you say?

"You don’t get what’s ’black’ about Maoist baloney?
You say that my festival’s totally phony?

"Who cares if corn isn’t an African crop?
Who cares if our harvest’s a month or two off?
Who cares if Swalhili’s not our mother tongue?
A lie for The Cause never hurt anyone!

"Umoja! Ujima! Kujichagulia, too!
Collectivist crap never sounded so cool!
Those guilty white liberals -- easy to fool.
Your kids will now celebrate Kwanzaa in school!"

And we heard him exclaim as he drove out of sight:
"Happy Kwanzaa to all, except if you’re white!"
Posted by: growler || 12/09/2003 9:44:29 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Growler--Wow! Just as I was thinking, "Oh, c'mon--we don't need any race-baiting here!" I clicked on the WND link and read the history--thank you for posting this! I had no idea what a twisted history this "holiday" has.
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 10:05 Comments || Top||

#2  I should've prefaced my post with a "I'm not trying to race-bait" disclaimer. Apologies to any I offended.
Posted by: growler || 12/09/2003 11:14 Comments || Top||

#3  I have some friends who are black. One family lives in Denver, one lives in Channelview, Texas, and another lives in Wellingborough, Northants, England. All three disparage Kwanzaa as "a made-up holiday for a made-up people", and refuse to allow their children to participate. The fact that all three families are devout Protestants, and Kwanzaa is definitely a re-hash of the Communist Manifesto in a new disguize is one of the reasons they hate it. Any truly intelligent person, regardless of race, nationality, or people, should shun this "holiday" and those that practice it. It is the antithesis of Christmas, and its true meaning.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/09/2003 13:04 Comments || Top||

#4  LOL Too funny! OP it's just ethnocentrism with an African American lilt
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 21:46 Comments || Top||


The Return of the King
The King could be your cabbie under the city’s new taxi driver dress code. The City Council voted Monday to approve legislation that would allow drivers to sport rhinestone capes, blue suede shoes or whatever other appropriate costume they wish. "Uh, a-thank you verrah much," cabbie Dave Groh, an Elvis Presley impersonator, said after the vote. It was Groh’s case that prompted the change to the city’s 1997 taxi dress code. Adopting an Elvis look after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in hopes of bringing some levity to the city, Groh pleased many passengers, but drew the ire of taxi inspectors. He was fined $60 last spring for not wearing the required black pants and a crisp shirt and nice white panties - oop.
Posted by: Spot || 12/09/2003 8:46:04 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought Fangio was the King of Cabbies.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 9:02 Comments || Top||


Oh My! Pardon The French
Just put http://www.rantburg.com into "the pornolise" (like Bable Fish only smuttier and more fun) at http://www.pornolize.com/ and get a completly different perspective on the days posts.
Posted by: tipper. || 12/09/2003 2:33:38 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How is this posssible?!? I didn't think you could actually *improve* on Rantburg, but this is too much!
Hilarious!
Gives Naked News even more sauce!
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 12/09/2003 15:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Not. Safe. For. Work.
Posted by: seafarious || 12/09/2003 15:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh man, when I first saw the headline I thought you were advocating the end of the French Boycott! Thank god it's just gratuitous porn.
Posted by: BH || 12/09/2003 16:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Better clear the history and other related files after you use this one on your work computer. It's not PC, heh heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/09/2003 20:26 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Meeting on Afghan Constitution Delayed
C’mon, nobody here thought this would happen on time. EFL.
An historic gathering to ratify a new constitution for this war-ravaged country has been delayed for several days to give delegates time to reach the capital, a constitutional council spokesman said Tuesday. The government had planned the loya jirga - or grand council - to start Wednesday, but spokesman Farooq Wardak said that would not be possible. ``The delegates need more time to get here,’’ he told The Associated Press.
"It’s all the road construction, the commute is terrible."
He said the meeting would start Saturday, with addresses from former king Mohammad Zaher Shah and President Hamid Karzai. Wardak said pre-council meetings have already begun, and some of the 500 delegates - elected in local meeting from each of Afghanistan’s 32 provinces - were already trickling into the capital. Security is a great concern for the gathering, to be held in northwest Kabul at an enormous tent, according to Afghan tradition.
Guardian reporter has an outstanding command of the obvious. "A great concern". I could write this story from Chicago.
The 50-page draft constitution was unveiled Nov. 3 after a year of work and many delays. It envisions an Islamic republic with a powerful presidency and a bicameral legislature. The president would be commander in chief of the military, appoint one-third of the legislature’s upper house and name judges, military officers, police and national security officials. It also guarantees a role for women in running the country and enshrines their right to an education.
Not a bad start. Perhaps they can slip in something about religious freedom.
The grand council is open ended, though Wardak said they were hoping to wrap things up in about 10 days. The delegates will be allowed to approve amendment. Ratification of the constitution will pave the way for national elections scheduled for June but also likely to be delayed by a month or two.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 1:04:05 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There are disturbing things about these 'advancements' in Afghanistan.

Using a law passed in the mid-70s, Karzai's government is prohibiting thousands of young married women from attending high-school classes. It's a big blow for female students, who had been denied the right to be educated under the hardline Taliban regime. LINK

Article 3, of the draft constitution, condemns any law "contrary to the sacred religion of Islam." Accordingly, the Holy Koran, the Sunna and Sharia, as interpreted and applied by mullahs, are the supreme law of the land. LINK
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 12/09/2003 2:13 Comments || Top||

#2  We will probably be more comfortable with the constitution that the Iraqi's create. I expect civil society will leach through Iran after the coming upheaval in whatever form it takes.

Social overreaching in Afghanistan will just hand the country back to the Taliban. Afghan history is full of governments that held no power outside of Kabul while the countryside remained lawless.

I don't particularly care for the compromise on slavery that was required to get a constitution ratified in the US in the 18th century. Socially, the forefathers were centures ahead of the hinterland Afghan tribes with respect to women's rights.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 4:39 Comments || Top||

#3  how many married women were in school in the US in 1789?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/09/2003 9:31 Comments || Top||

#4  SH and LH--Good points. We can't expect Afghanistan to become a utopia for human rights overnight. However, it's not 1789 anymore, and I hope we haven't sacrificed so much blood, sweat, and money just to get a Taliban LiteTM government installed. If nothing else, installing a secular government has got to be the highest priority. Women will have a much better chance to claim their rights eventually under a secular government.
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 10:14 Comments || Top||

#5  we spent blood sweat and money in Afghanistan to get rid of the people who flew planes into the WTC and the Pentagon. At the same time, as a SIDE benefit, we're leaving the Afghan people FAR better off than they were. If afghan ends up with a govt that defers to mullahs on some issues, instead of being run by mullahs - that lets women go to elementary school, and go to high school and university EXCEPT when theyre married instead of one that made it a crime for girls to go elementary school - that gives women the vote and has women cabinet ministers etc then we've done our job. Making Afghanistan into a secular state like Turkey would take 100,000 or more troops, and would likely fail anyway (see the USSR and 1979)
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/09/2003 11:05 Comments || Top||

#6  LH, I agree that the Russians totally ignored the people that actually lived in Afghanistan and tried to lay a Xerox of their own government and society.
Continued pressure on Pakistan to improve human rights will leach into Afgahnistan as well. It will probably leach faster as we improve the Afghan infrastructure.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 11:44 Comments || Top||


US swoops on al-Qaeda in Afghanistan
The US military has launched its biggest ground offensive to date against Taliban and al-Qaeda remnants in Afghanistan, as reverberations from the weekend killing of nine children in an airstrike continued to cast a pall over the country’s efforts at recovery. A US military spokesman acknowledged that the attack on a remote village in the far south of Ghazni province may not have killed its intended target. Villagers have told US investigators that Mullah Wazir, a low-ranking local Taliban organiser, left the village 10 days before the strike, US spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Bryan Hilferty said at US headquarters in Bagram.
"I'm gettin' outta here. Let the kids take any heavy metal that comes this way..."
Hilferty said the strike was based on "very clear actionable intelligence" that Wazir, who US forces say was responsible for the October slaying of two Afghan road workers, was at home when the US warplanes planes struck. A team investigating the incident has gathered DNA from the site to try to establish the identity of an adult male killed in the attack, he said. Earlier, AFP reported that the US military said it has reason to believe the body was Wazir’s. "We have received corroborated intelligence that give us a very good indication that this was the person we were after, the intended target," US Central Command spokesman Pete Mitchell said.
"Ummm... Looks like him. He's got a turban and everything..."
But villagers have told reporters that the dead man was Abdul Hamid, a local resident aged in his 20s. Seven boys and two girls who had been playing nearby also were killed.
"Mom! We're gonna go over to Abdul Hamid's house and watch him roll his eyes and jump up and down!"
"Okay, kids. Watch out for A10s, though!"
Although the military has apologised for the deaths and promised to provide aid to help the village, the mistake has provoked widespread concern that the US military’s killing of civilians in airstrikes targeting terrorists could further alienate Afghans from the US-backed government of President Hamid Karzai, and the international recovery effort in Afghanistan.
Maybe the local Pashtuns should keep their kids away from mullahs?
Hilferty acknowledged the incident risked turning Afghans against the US-led coalition. "Such mistakes could make the Afghan people think ill of the coalition," he said.
Yeah. Dead kids do that. It also seems like every time there's a Taliban that gets banged, there's a passel of kids that check out, too. I'm wondering at that string of coincidences...
Meanwhile, the new offensive, code-named Operation Avalanche, is targeting areas in the south and east where a resurgent Taliban guerrilla force has been attacking humanitarian workers and government officials, placing a huge swath of the country off limits to international aid efforts. The operation involves 2,000 ground troops from the 11,500-strong US-led coalition force, making it the largest operation yet involving ground forces in Afghanistan. "This new operation will deny sanctuary to and disrupt the activities of terrorist forces simultaneously throughout the eastern, southeastern, and southern regions of Afghanistan in order to secure and stabilise the area, to set the conditions for reconstruction and political improvement, and to promote freedom of movement and commerce," a military statement said. The military refused to give further details, except to warn the operation would be bigger than any before. Despite repeated US operations against Taliban strongholds in recent months, the group seems to have been gaining in strength. Operation Avalanche takes over from Operation Mountain Resolve, which formally wound down at the weekend, the military said. That operation targeted the inaccessible, mountainous regions of Nuristan and Kunar in the northeast, a stronghold of Islamic militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and one of the areas where Osama bin Laden has most recently been rumoured to be hiding. The operation uncovered thousands of hidden weapons and ammunition rounds, but there were no reports that any wanted terrorist leaders were captured or killed.
Of course not. They left for Pakistan as soon as it started...
Six civilians died during the operation when a house was hit in an airstrike that was apparently based on faulty intelligence.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/09/2003 12:14:56 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Hilferty acknowledged the incident risked turning Afghans against the US-led coalition.
Like the way they rose up in opposition to the far more heinous crimes against humanity perpetrated daily by the Taliban?

While a tragedy like this is awful, the success of the war does not hinge on it. Implying that it does just sounds like more leftist pessimism/panic.
Posted by: Islam Sucks || 12/09/2003 1:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Hilferty acknowledged the incident risked turning Afghans against the US-led coalition.

"Such mistakes could make the Afghan people think ill of the coalition," he said.


Ya think?

Unfortunately such damage is sometimes unavoidable when the enemy hides behind civilians (and children).
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/09/2003 1:40 Comments || Top||

#3  American news agencies are presented with a quandry. Will be interesting to see whether total apathy toward events in Afghanistan outweighs a general predisposition towards running with stories that make the US look evil.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 4:45 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder, where did US intelligence get the information on the location of this Taliban operative. Is it just chance that the US is tipped off to the location of Mullah Wazir and attack while children are “playing” nearby?
Posted by: Dan Canaveral || 12/09/2003 6:58 Comments || Top||

#5  "US swoops on al Qaeda" -- swoops? Yeah, right. I saw some footage on TV last night. US soldiers struggling to cross a stream, waddling into helicopters with 80 lbs. of equipment on their backs. I can not understand why our infantry humps all that crap in the field. They can make about 2km per hour.
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 12/09/2003 12:29 Comments || Top||

#6  More on Operation Avalanche: Soldiers from the 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment stormed into an area east of Khost, a restive town along the border with Pakistan that has seen several recent attacks on coalition personnel, said Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty, a U.S. military spokesman. "We came in with helicopters," he said of the maneuver, part of the newly launched Operation Avalanche. "We're trying to interdict along the border." U.S. and Afghan officials have long charged that Taliban rebels and their al-Qaida allies flee back across the mountainous border into Pakistan after launching attacks. Hilferty said the operation was designed to root out insurgents before the brutally cold winter months. "We're trying to get them before the winter sets in," he said. The 501st, based in Fort Richardson, Alaska, was on its first major deployment since arriving about two months ago.
"They are well-suited to working with the 10th Mountain Division here in the high mountains of Afghanistan," Hilferty said.

Ah, yes, the brutal Afghan winter. Let's check today's weather:
Kabul, Afghanistan - High 51, Low 29.
Ft. Richardson, Alaska - High 35, Low 25.
Buffalo, NY - High 44, Low 37.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 12:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Steve, the Canadians would point to the harsh Buffalo weather as the reason the invasion of Lower Canada failed in the War of 1812. Well, not really.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 13:21 Comments || Top||

#8  "I can not understand why our infantry humps all that crap in the field. "

I don't know infantry, but I understand that some of the troops on the "snatch and grab" in Mogadishu treated the trip lightly and left their canteens and body armour at home.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 14:17 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Of Prying Eyes and Segregation of Women
Excerpts from an editorial in Arab News...
In a recent article in a local paper, one of our Saudi academics suggested that women-only shopping centers would be best for Saudi Arabia. He enumerated the benefits that such a step would provide investors, customers and society at large. One of the principal reasons for his suggestion was that such centers would give women the protection they need from prying eyes and rude behavior (both from men). He goes on to say that the ventures might give businesswomen freedom from male supervision and added that in addition, more jobs would be created. In a similar article, the idea of a women-only industrial city was presented; the city would provide jobs and “the necessary privacy and a conducive work environment.”

No matter what we do, men and women have to deal with each other on a daily basis — not only within the family but outside: From taxi drivers to supermarket cashiers to traffic police to passers-by. Even if we create women-only cities, won’t women have to deal with “male” government officials at some point? Businesswomen must have men as agents; how can they conduct their business without dealing with those men? The strange thing is that many of us justify these calls on social and religious bases.

Now the reason for these ideas is that women are harassed in streets and in shopping centers by men. A definite violation of law and custom — so what’s to be done?
Ummm... Beat the women?
Separate both parties by restricting the movement of the innocent and letting the guilty walk free? Or shouldn’t the violators be publicly identified and humiliated?
Yes! Damn those brazen hussies, inciting those men like that!
It is strange that the same people who propose separate facilities are the very ones who have never noticed lingerie shops staffed by men — which is surely an instance where there should be a women-only environment.
"I'd like to see some crotchless underpants, please."
"Certainly, madam. Step this way, please... YEE-HAW!"
"Hey! Knock it off! Lemme alone! Help!"
The core of the problem is that men and women in this society do not know how to interact properly. Most men have real problems in treating women with respect. Men have simply got to be taught to respect women. It is always a woman who suffers harassment on the street but somehow, the idea that a man should be respectful of women is never spoken of.
First, you have to somehow absorb the idea that you, personally, can control your impulses. In a religion where disputes over the nature of monotheism lead to shootings and bombings, there isn't much hope of that, is there?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 12/09/2003 15:11 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So Islam is moving from out-and-out slavery to "separate-but-almost-equal". Progress of a sort.
Posted by: Mercutio || 12/09/2003 15:57 Comments || Top||

#2  SA needs a sex based 2nd Amendment.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 16:11 Comments || Top||

#3  "The core of the problem is that ... Most men have real problems in treating women as anything other than slaves with respect." The Saudis do not see that the image they create of sex-crazed gorillas whose urges are held in check only by fanaticism and aparthied is subhuman. Or maybe they're right?

It Doesn't Take A Hero briefly mentions the culture shock of armed women (US Army MP's) wandering in the souks. Unfortunately Norm's too diplomatic to go into detail.

My apologies to any gorillas in the audience for this smear.
Posted by: Glenn (not Reynolds) || 12/09/2003 17:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Fred, the author seems to be on your side. Don't mock him because he's living in the hell hole that he seems to know; I think that he's trying to say the same thing you're saying...
-Vic
Posted by: Vic || 12/09/2003 18:47 Comments || Top||

#5  My point - sometimes I'm too subtle - is that the root of the problem lies with their lack of self-control in all areas. Somebody doesn't agree on a point of religion, they declare him apostate and try to kill him. A woman shows an ankle or, God forbid, a bit of cleavage, raping her becomes "understandable." It's not a problem of religion, it's a problem of culture. It perceives as a problem of religion because the religion's grounded in the culture.

They're taking baby steps toward the 20th century, and I mean the 20th, not the 21st. They should be encouraged, except when they decide to backslide by indulging their clerics or trying to work deals with their gunnies. At the same time, we didn't put them in the early Middle Ages - they stayed there themselves. They've been making serious efforts for less than six months. Words of encouragement are appropriate, but I'm still not really sure about their sincerity. Arabia's not really known as the home of sincerity...
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2003 19:13 Comments || Top||

#6  I'd suggest it's a direct result of their loser culture and the fact that their men must subjugate and denigrate women because when they try that shit with real men (i.e.: non-arabs) they get their asses kicked (see for reference all Israeli-Arab wars)
Posted by: Frank G || 12/09/2003 22:11 Comments || Top||


3 Women Among 36 Sentenced for Al-Olaya Protests
A Riyadh court has sentenced 36 citizens including three women to 55 days in prison for demonstrating in Riyadh two months ago, Al-Watan Arabic newspaper reported yesterday. “A summary court on Sunday sentenced 36 Saudi men and women to 55 days in prison for taking part in a gathering in the Al-Olaya area two months ago,” the paper said. “The judge ordered the group to be released for time already served after it was confirmed that they had fallen prey to a dubious party calling itself the Movement for Islamic Reform,” said the paper.
Looked at the name instead of the organization, did they?
Al-Watan predicted the jailed demonstrators would be released within a few days. “They have sent a cable to the interior minister condemning the Al-Muhaya bombing and other terrorist attacks in the Kingdom,” it added.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 12/09/2003 15:01 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Bin-Humaid Welcomes Decision to Empower Shoura Council
Shoura Council Chairman Dr. Saleh Bin-Humaid has hailed a royal decree strengthening the 120-member consultative body and said it showed the government was serious about reforms.
"Oh, thank you, Your Royal Highness! Now I won't be a non-entity! Oh, thank you!"
In a statement following a Shoura meeting on Monday, Dr. Bin-Humaid also urged Saudis to be forthcoming with their opinions on matters close to their hearts. The Shoura chief asked Saudis to toe a moderate line in all things and avoid acts of dissension. “Extremism will serve only the enemy and incur heavy losses to the country,” he said. Dr. Bin-Humaid was all praise for a royal decree changing Articles 17 and 23 of the Shoura Council system. “These changes have given more powers to the council, provided greater flexibility in its performance and widened its area of influence in issues concerning citizens and the nation.” He said the changes to the system showed the government’s resolve to push ahead with the political and administrative reforms announced in a keynote address early this year by Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahd. In the written address, the king also stressed the Shoura’s role in monitoring the performance of government departments and agencies.
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United States Must Not Neglect Saudi Investment
Long economic piece on the Saudi-American Forum. EFL:
Saudi Arabians have allocated an estimated 60% of their global investments to the United States through passive and direct investments. This commitment has enabled the United States to finance an ongoing trade deficit and produce new economic growth opportunities.
Saudi "investments" have sure helped the defense sector.
Objections and barriers to Saudi investment in the United States are on the rise. Although most are baseless and even discriminatory, their impact could be multiplied in the current market environment. Promotion agencies across the globe are maneuvering to attract and keep foreign investment. The Kingdom’s own market climate has opened and become highly attractive for Saudi investors. America must eliminate growing impediments to Saudi and other foreign investment in the United States in order to remain competitive.
Blah - blah - Be nice or we’ll take our money elseware - Blah - blah - snipped.
In February 2003, total worldwide Saudi investment, including investment in the United States and Europe, was conservatively estimated at U.S. $700 billion. The United States received approximately 60% of the global Saudi investment allocation.
That’s 60% of all overseas Saudi investment, right where we can seize it, if and when we want to.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 1:42:31 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Steve---Your last comment is the one that hit me when I was reading this article. The Saudi investment is a two-edged sword. The more we keep digging into Saudi money, the more we build a causus belli in regard to 9-11 and global terrorism, at least in regard to how it affects the US. We could also turn over the information to other allies that could use it too in the same way. I do not like veiled threats from the Saudis, they make me angry.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/09/2003 13:57 Comments || Top||

#2  The SSN reform plans will replace Saudi money rapidly. At worst the US government can cash in mineral rights or sell land it confiscated from citizens. I don't think an actual deficit exists when you really look at some of the saleable assets of the Federal Government.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 14:21 Comments || Top||

#3  The Saudis haven't invested money in the US because they like us: they've invested the money here because they like the security and upside potential of our markets. If they want to move $500 billion to the Russian stock market, they're certainly free to do so.
Posted by: Matt || 12/09/2003 14:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Keeping it as short as I can... excuse the typos, I'm rattling the keys as fast as I can...

A Question:
When a nation declares war on another, are not its assets forfeit?

A Trigger:
Look back to the 1973 oil embargo by Saudi Arabia directed against the US. We were heavily dependent upon SA oil in particular, as they had historically been our "close ally" - which, in point of fact, is better described as our most favored friend: we provided technology and expertise and defense - and they let us buy their oil. Not exactly a sweetheart arrrangement for us, as they and OPEC manipulated our economy almost at will for their own gain in most cases, but it did "guarantee" our oil supply... That is, until the Yom Kippur War.

Caught completely by surprise, Israel suffered severe losses and, militarily, was in serious trouble. When the Soviets launched a major airlift to resupply Egypt and Syria, the US did the same for Israel - which was enough to bring about a stalemate and defacto cease-fire. Then we had Kissinger's shuttle diplomacy - which allowed the warring factions to disengage and return lands taken - bring the parties back to the stalemate condition of the post-1967 war.

A Fact:
The 1973 embargo, which lasted well into 1974, was Saudi punishment of the US for aiding Israel.

Just as they've been "at war" with Israel since its founding, they have been "at war" with the US since 1973. The embargo was only the opening salvo. They have waged a low-grade diplomatic and economic war against the US ever since. Hot war against us began outside our borders - so it wasn't obvious to many. 9/11 was not the first military battle against us - just the most obvious. There are many to blame for our slumbering through most of this war, and many will amuse themselves with this for some time. The important fact is that we have begun to awaken to the fact that we ARE at war.

Everyone is still playing too nice with this "confabulation of evils" -- nation, country, society - all are far too civil to describe the succubus that is the House of Saud married to Wahhabist Islam.

A Cure:
Take its toys away from it. Take a strip of land 40 km wide running from Kuwait's southern border to Yemen's fuzzy northern border. This is the Saudi tick-head buried in our flesh - this little strip of land. Take it and amazing shit happens. They no longer get to play jihadi. No more back-stabbing subversion and diplomacy-for-sale. Watch the terror in the world begin to dry up. Watch the Black Hats crawl back into their cave and pull the rock in after - hoping we'll forget about them - but we won't, they are doomed by their overreaching efforts for nukes to kill Israel and rule the ME oil lands - oh, and Islam, right - almost forgot it's about religion with the Black Hats. Watch SE Asian and Pakistani and Paleo terror groups wither, almost overnight. Watch the Taliban become a memory and leave Afghanistan to its age-old joke of Kabul vs. the Warlords. Watch Syria implode and Lebanon try to figure out what to do with itself. Watch Qatar and the UAE suddenly realize that sponsoring Al Jizz and other jihadi mouthpieces is poor business, indeed.

There will much to see, from this one small militarily near-trivial move.

But don't despair, we'll still have Dear Leader to provide entertainment - for a little while. at least.
Posted by: .com || 12/09/2003 16:11 Comments || Top||

#5  SH you're right. The Feds don't do capital budgeting. To them the Abe Lincoln and sisters are treated as dead cold expenses from day one.. not capital assets to be depreciated over 50 yrs.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 16:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Oh, almost forgot... watch Iraq finally have a chance to succeed. Whatever follows after the external money for asshat activity dries up will finally be, at least for the most part, an Iraqi issue. Self-determination. What a novel concept.
Posted by: .com || 12/09/2003 16:24 Comments || Top||

#7  The Saudis haven't invested money in the US because they like us: they've invested the money here because they like the security and upside potential of our markets. If they want to move $500 billion to the Russian stock market, they're certainly free to do so.

True. But don't underestimate the short-term economic hit here if they dump $-denominated financial instruments (mostly US bonds, but also corporates and stocks) rapidly. If they are willing to take a hit themselves, they could do sufficient short-range damage that it would threaten Bush's re-election.
Posted by: rkb || 12/09/2003 17:31 Comments || Top||

#8  I agree with you PD. I just don't see how W can pull it off politically.
Posted by: Sharon in NYC || 12/09/2003 17:41 Comments || Top||

#9  Sharon in NYC - I hear you. I'm getting the same response here in Thailand from the US expats who aren't refugees from reality - that's about 50% of them.

The answer is stealth = fait accomplis (to borrow a phrase from JFM's better heritage). Just use a short rotation of the right mix of forces coming out of Iraq through the Gulf and do it. 90 days afterwards, the results will prove the case. If we don't do it this way, we'll be bled from a thousand small cuts until...

LA or SF or Baltimore or Houston or NYC harbor is hit with a dirty bomb, or chemical attack, or bio attack. When we are only inspecting less than 1% of the containers on ships and less than 2% of the trucks crossing our Canadian border (so how's that fence coming?) this is an eventuality. Not a possibility, an eventuality - right off of the AlQ websites.

Do we wait for the deed? Must America always wait until it's backed into a corner before it acts? No - Dubya has finally broken that inane rule by saying we must be proactive and pre-emptive due to the lethality of the weapons available. Great, let's employ that brilliant realization and save some of OUR innocent lives, too, in addition to Iraqis and Afghans.

My proposition merely acknowledges what we all know is the true source of the majority of the grief in the WoT, and states a pre-emptive move that will deal with that fact more effectively than any other I have been able to come up with. And I have realized that the citizens of the blogosphere who aren't gullible idiotarian tools are at least as smart and creative as the Pentagon Planners and State Dept Dips and, in fact, are more likely to recognize things for what they are because we aren't burdened with their institutional baggage.

Sorry to be so windy, but that's what your right-on-the-money response generated cuz I've been having the same discussion around here for the last couple of months. One more reason why I dropped out for awhile - to work it out in my head what I'd do if I was in charge. There are better folks here in RB, though, including those who just read it - so I finally figured I'd start tossing it out until it got a fair hearing. Thx for reading it and responding! ;-)
Posted by: .com || 12/09/2003 18:08 Comments || Top||

#10  Margaret--get my pills! I find myself in agreement with .com and am not feeling right! Of course just wondering where that voice in the wilderness was when GHWB was in the house...
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 22:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Yea Dot, But only if we want to win this war. Or we could go slowly, checking all the PC boxes along the way. Who's onboard, who's not. Discussions and a shifting time table. France will want some veto power and Germany needs some sort of cover, No. Blair is toast unless he gets some slice of pie. Putin is Putin! Toss him a bone and he'll go along like a good kitty. So 10 years and a few billion in cash. One lost city or so. Add it up and I say it's a go. And I mean it as I've been working through this also.

Iran is a tough nut to be sure. So lets take care of one half of the equation. SA oil fields. They are children playing with fire!
Posted by: Lucky || 12/10/2003 0:32 Comments || Top||

#12  Lucky, I'm not worried about being PC or drawing in Germany or France, but I can't see how W could pull something like that off and still get reelected (and we are NOT going to win with any of the others in that office). My current thinking is SA can wait a bit (unless the internal war w/ AQ heats up a LOT more); I'm more worried we'll have to do something with Iran near term, before Nov. 2004. I think that potentially could be sold to voters and W would still win, but not taking over SA oil fields in the absence of obvious civil war.
Posted by: Sharon in NYC || 12/12/2003 17:38 Comments || Top||


Britain
Medal for a Real Dog Soldier
A dog has been awarded the animal "Victoria Cross" for sniffing out hidden bomb-making equipment in Iraq. Buster, a five-year-old springer spaniel, broke an armed resistance cell in the southern Iraqi town of Safwan with his discovery in March. The Army search dog received the People’s Dispensary for Sick Animal’s (PDSA) Dickin Medal from Princess Alexandra at the Imperial War Museum on Tuesday. Proud handler Sergeant Danny Morgan, of the Royal Army Veterinary Corps, based at Aldershot in Hampshire said it was a massive honour for Buster and other dogs deployed in Iraq. Sgt Morgan, 37, who describes Buster as his best friend, usually looks after him at home, where he is also a family pet for his five-year-old daughter Emma and wife Nicki, a 32-year-old nurse. He said of the medal-winning incident: "The soldiers had found nothing so I unleashed Buster and sent him in. Within minutes he became excited in a particular area and I knew he’d discovered something. Buster found the arms even though they had hidden them in a wall cavity, covered it with a sheet of tin then pushed a wardrobe in front. We would never have found the weapons without him and they would still be a threat to our troops and the local population."

The stash included Russian AK47 assault rifles, a pistol, six grenades, fuses, ammunition and large quantities of cash, two kilograms of cocaine and pro-Saddam literature. There have been no attacks in the town since Buster’s discovery and soon afterwards troops were able to replace their steel helmets with soft berets. Buster is only the 24th dog to receive the PDSA Dickin Medal and his award marks the 60th anniversary of the honour, which was inaugurated by the PDSA’s founder Maria Dickin in December 1943 to recognise outstanding bravery of animals in World War II. The award is the highest decoration for gallantry that can be bestowed on any animal member of the British and Commonwealth forces.
Well done, Buster.
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#1  Knick knack paddy wack.
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 13:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Hope the biggest sausage available comes with the award!
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 15:56 Comments || Top||


Europe
Germany powerless over nuke sale, says Schroeder
German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has insisted that the government could not refuse the sale of a German nuclear fuel-rod plant to China, despite criticism from within the coalition. Schroeder told Germany’s ZDF television the government could not stop the sale by engineering group Siemens of the mothballed factory at Hanau near Frankfurt. "We have known in the government for a long time that we would have to fulfil this legal claim," he said. Siemens had a legal right to approval for the sale as the plant - designed to produce a mixed oxide of uranium and plutonium for nuclear power stations - could not be used for a military application, he said. "In this question we have, in my view, no political possibility of making a decision."

The planned sale is threatening to cause a rift in the coalition of Schroeder’s Social Democrats and anti-nuclear Greens, who have called for coalition talks on the issue. Schroeder met Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer in what the newspaper Bild am Sonntag described as an attempt to ward off a coalition crisis. Handelsblatt newspaper reports Monday edition that the meeting led to a row between the two, with Fischer accusing Schroeder of a "communications disaster", and Schroeder blaming Fischer for not doing enough to prevent the criticism from the Greens.
Snicker. I’m not crazy about Germany selling nuclear anything to China, but I like seeing Schroeder taking heat from the Greens...
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/09/2003 1:10:51 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Old news. The Greens reached a compromise with the SPD: Germany will only export the plant if China agrees to international supervision by the IAEO...

Read... if hell freezes over...

The Greens are not amused though nontheless.
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 13:16 Comments || Top||

#2  TGA! Welcome back!
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 15:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Thanks Steve, alive and kicking!
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 15:59 Comments || Top||


Turkish Press News
These are some of the major headlines and their brief stories in Turkey’s press on December 9, 2003.
AIM IS TO LEARN ISLAM
There are many Turks in Feth-ul Islam Institute in Syria, some students of which were detained after attacks in Istanbul. These Turkish students are generally having education in Islam Law Department which is named as ’’shariah’’ in Syria. A student named Murat Aykac aged 21 says that he is going to this institute to learn Islam better. A student named Bekir aged 22 says a link between Islam and terrorism cannot be established.
"Cuz I’m a Shariah lawyer and I say so!"
Murat?

REJECTION FROM ANKARA TO TEHRAN
Iran told Turkey that it could consider KADEK as the terrorist organization. But, Iran wanted Turkey to send two delegations. One of the delegations was invited to Iran to take up cooperation in fight against terrorism and the other to discuss cooperation in energy. Ankara rejected this demand.
"Don’t call us, we’ll call you."

FIRST OFFICIAL PERMISSION TO KURDISH COURSE
The new regulation in line with the law dated August 2002 which permitted teaching of mother tongues bore its first fruit. First permission to a Kurdish course is given in southeastern Sanliurfa province.
It’s a start

SYRIA VOWS TO COOPERATE WITH TURKEY IN FIGHTING TERRORISM
During a meeting with the Turkish Parliamentary Friendship Group, Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlass said yesterday that his country was ready to cooperate with Turkey in the fight against terrorism.
Yeah. And the James Gang is ready to cooperate in the fight against bank robbers...
After completing its contacts in Syria, the Turkish-Syrian Inter-Parliamentary Friendship Group delegation led by Yuksel Cavusoglu returned to Ankara. Cavusoglu visited President Ahmet Necdet Sezer and briefed him about the delegations’ meetings with Syrian officials.
They had a good laugh, then resolved to do something productive next week...
During the four-day visit, the delegations met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Prime Minister Mohammed Naji Otri, and Defense Minister Mustafa Tlass as well as the nation’s health, foreign and trade ministers. Expressing his sympathy over the recent terrorist attacks in Istanbul, Tlass vowed to cooperate with Turkey in the fight against terrorism. Following the attacks, Syria handed over to Turkey 22 terror suspects. In related news, al-Assad is expected to visit Turkey next month.

PUTIN: “RUSSIA IS READY TO COOPERATE WITH TURKEY IN FIGHTING TERRORISM”
Russia is ready to cooperate with Turkey in fighting terrorism, said Russian President Vladimir Putin yesterday. Putin condemned last month’s terrorist attacks in Istanbul, adding that international cooperation was needed to eliminate terrorism. “We will stand by Turkey,” he added.
Just don’t let Vlad behind you.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 1:06:15 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Murat hasn't been around since he accused me of being a Feared Kurd.

And the reason there's no link between Islam and terrorism? Because if it's done in the name of Islam it can't be terrorism, of course.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 13:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Murat was deeply shaken by the way the BCS shook out this year.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 16:19 Comments || Top||


US Paris embassy bomb alert
French police holding 10 people in relation to a warning of a bomb attack against the US embassy in Paris said Monday the alarm appeared to be a hoax but the suspects would likely be prosecuted for visa violations. The 10 - most of whom were Egyptians in France illegally - were arrested Sunday after the embassy received a threat from a caller that it was about to be targeted by a "vehicle filled with explosives," officers with the anti-terrorist squad said. Security was immediately tightened around the building, located on the Place de la Concorde at the bottom of the famous Champs-Elysees Avenue in the centre of the capital, but no attack or alarming behaviour materialised, police and an embassy spokeswoman told AFP. The suspects were arrested on the basis of a list of telephone numbers the anonymous caller gave during the warning. But officers said after questioning them Monday and searching their homes that it looked like they had nothing to do with any terrorist plot.
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/09/2003 12:59:46 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What, do we now expect terrorists to give out a list of home numbers when they call in a threat, just in case we have any questions later? I submit that nobody (well, ok, HARDLY anybody) is that dumb.
Posted by: mojo || 12/09/2003 13:07 Comments || Top||

#2  arrested on the basis of a list of telephone numbers the anonymous caller gave

Sounds to me like somebody wanted these guys arrested for personal reasons. Saying they were terrorists was the fastest way to get the French cops attention.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 13:13 Comments || Top||

#3  I submit that nobody ... is that dumb.

Remember this is the French police we're talking about.
Posted by: Glenn (not Reynolds) || 12/09/2003 13:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Or it could be that for any, say, three phone numbers in Phrawnce you check out, you'll find 10 illegals from N. Africa / Middle East.
Posted by: .com || 12/09/2003 17:23 Comments || Top||

#5  The suspects were arrested on the basis of a list of telephone numbers the anonymous caller gave during the warning.

Sounds like either somebody wanted their jobs, or an employer wanted to get rid of 'em.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/09/2003 21:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Illegal immigrants in France--non jamias look at the US and it's successful immigration control as your example!
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 22:16 Comments || Top||


Key ETA suspect is held in France
A suspected military leader of the Basque separatist group ETA has been arrested in France. Gorka Palacios Alday was held in a dawn raid in the small village of Lons, near Pau in south-west France. French anti-terrorism officers also detained another three suspected ETA members, and seized false identity papers and weapons during the raid.
Been a bad year to be a ETA member.
French police described Palacios, 29, as the armed group’s "number one" following the recapture last week of Ibon Fernandez Iradi, ETA’s suspected military chief. Palacios is wanted for a series of bombings in Spain and he also appears on a list of wanted "terrorists" drawn up by the United States and the European Union. He has also been named as a suspect in the shooting of a Spanish colonel in October 2000.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 11:51:37 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Six die in Moscow suicide blast
A suspected suicide bombing near Red Square in Moscow has left six people dead and wounded several others. The blast happened on a busy street only a few hundred metres from the Kremlin in the heart of the city. The attack may have been aimed at government buildings, two days after Mr Putin’s supporters won legislative elections.
Yeah, those wins were a big surprise.
The Moscow bomb went off shortly before 1100 local time (0800 GMT) outside the National Hotel, yards from the capital’s main shopping street, Tverskaya Street. Thirteen people were reportedly wounded. A Mercedes sedan was destroyed in the explosion, but it is unclear whether the explosion was a car bomb.
Pictures show car is mostly intact, I’d say a bomb vest went off in the car.
Moscow mayor Yuri Luzhkov described the attack as a botched attack by at least one, but probably two, women suicide bombers.
Chechen women, again.
The bomber or bombers had earlier asked a passer-by the way to the State Duma - the lower house of parliament, he said.
"Excuse me, where is the infidel oppressor Duma?"
"Go down to the corner and take a right, you can’t miss it"

"Evidently, the bomb went off by accident," he was quoted as saying by Interfax news agency. The National Hotel was not the place where the suicide bombers had planned to stage the explosion." Police spokesman Yevgeny Gildeyev said police investigators were becoming increasingly persuaded the blast was related to terrorism, rather than to a business dispute, AP said.
"Business disputes we settle with pistols, at night, at close range. It’s a old Russian custom."
The Federal Security Service (FSB) has also said it considers the bombing a terrorist act, according to Russian agencies. A Reuters correspondent reports seeing the severed head of a woman lying on the pavement next to a briefcase, as well as flesh on the snowy pavements. Television pictures also showed a body lying outside the hotel, behind a destroyed car.
Just like here, if it bleeds, it leads.
Police cordoned off the area and brought in a bomb disposal robot to locate undetonated explosives reportedly found on one body at the scene. Bomb disposal experts then carried out two controlled explosions, one on a handbag apparently suspected of containing explosives.
Sounds like they got lucky, one of the female boomers had a premature climax.

More, from al-Jizz...
Moscow bomb 'targeted parliament'
"My car was covered with chunks of human flesh. There were two girls covered in blood and human flesh who were crawling through the snow"

Vladimir Khomerkov,
Moscow bomb witness
A bomber has killed six people and wounded 13 in a Moscow attack which authorities say may have targeted the Russian parliament. Police said they suspected Tuesday's blast was set off by at least one female bomber who wore a belt packed with explosives and ballbearings. Her blown-off head was discovered lying on a busy pavement on Moscow's Mokhovaya street facing the Kremlin.
"Isn't that Fatimah?"
"No, no. I'll admit, it looks a lot like her, but Fatimah's much taller!"
A second undetonated device was discovered on a woman's body after police had secured the site. "There may have been two suicide bombers," Moscow Mayor Yury Luzhkov said. Officials said the bomber had apparently tried to target the State Duma lower house of parliament building that was a few dozen metres away. Police said they were looking for another suspect who might have taken part in the attack and had the features of a person from the Caucasus - the code used to indicate the blast was carried out by Chechen rebels.
We knew it was Chechens all along. Veps and Urdmurts never do that sort of thing.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 11:47:42 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah, the old exploding handbag trick. Maxwell Smart, call your office...
Posted by: mojo || 12/09/2003 13:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds funny now--but it won't be if it happens in Rock Centre during the Today show
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 22:20 Comments || Top||


Interview with pro Israel Muslim Professor/Iman
EFL
I put this in Europe because the interviewee was from Italy

E-Interview with Sheikh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi, Director of the Cultural Institute of the Italian Islamic Community...

Prof Palazzi: My position is opposing every solution which involves the withdraw of Israel from Judea, Samaria and Gaza, and the creation of a so-called "Palestinian state"....

I am fully aware that I am voicing a minority orientation, but do not feel so isolated as it could appear. The former President of Indonesia and leader of Nadwat al-Ulema (i.e. the leader of the main Islamic organization of the most populous Muslim country of the world), Shaykh Abdurrahman Wahid, is known for his pro-Israel stance...The Mufti of Sierra Leone, Shaykh Ahmad Sillah, is also pro-Israel, and so are the Grand Mufti of the Russian Federation, Shaykh Tajuddin, and the Mufti of European Russia, Shaykh Salman Farid, who wrote a fatwa against the intifadah. Same can be said about the Muftis of Chechnya, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan....

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#1  Dear Beneficient Creator!
Posted by: rabidfox || 12/09/2003 9:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Brave man.
Posted by: Atrus || 12/09/2003 15:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Most of those Muftis live in countries where it can be dangerous to ones health not to toe the government line..
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 12/09/2003 17:30 Comments || Top||


Partners in Iraq
On 3-4 December the Polish Land Forces Commander, Lieutenant General Edward Pietrzyk, responsible for the Polish Armed Forces operations planning and international missions will be visiting Lithuania. During his visit, the Polish Land Forces Commander will meet with his Lithuanian counterpart, Brigadier General Valdas Tutkus. The Land Forces Commanders of the both countries will focus on participation of Lithuanian and Polish troops in the mission in Iraq, a possibility of conducting joint exercises and the course of the ongoing projects. Lithuania and Poland are strategic partners. The countries maintain military co-operation and upon Poland’s request, Lithuanian military personnel have been deployed to serve in the Polish-controlled sector in Iraq. The visit agenda for the Polish Land Forces Commander will also include a visit to the Motorised Infantry Brigade Iron Wolf, where he will be briefed on the Lithuanian Land Forces. Later in the day Lt Gen Pietrzyk and Brig Gen Tutkus will pay a floral tribute at the RasÞ Cemetery and will visit the Polish Embassy in Vilnius. On Thursday, 4 December the Polish delegation will go to Alytus to visit the joint Lithuanian-Polish Battalion, LITPOLBAT.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 8:37:51 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hoo yeah! Tiny little Lithuania, home to my grandparents, showing the way. First to remove the yoke of the Soviets too! Like Poland they know that freedom is not free and they will not cut and run at the first sign of blood. Old Europe, enjoy your oncoming dhimmitude- the New European nations will NOT be joining you.
Posted by: Craig || 12/09/2003 10:28 Comments || Top||

#2  My grandparents on my fathers side as well. Joint participation with Poland is a big thing, guess they have put their historical conflict behind them. Modern nations do that, unlike others who hold a grudge for centuries.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 10:49 Comments || Top||


Dutch bust Iraqi recruiter
Dutch authorities have arrested an alleged accomplice in a plot to channel holy-war fighters to Iraq for suicide attacks against U.S. forces, German officials said Monday. The 32-year-old Iraqi, whose name was not released, had been at large since the arrest of another Iraqi in Munich last Tuesday. He was arrested by Dutch security officials at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport when he attempted to board a plane to Turkey, Munich prosecutor Christian Schmidt-Sommerfeld said.
I'll bet Turkey was just overjoyed at the thought of him showing up, too...
The German warrant for his arrest cites charges of forming a criminal organization, he said. Schiphol police spokeswoman Frederique Hermie said the man was arrested Saturday evening. Germany has requested the man’s extradition and he will appear before a judge at the Haarlem District Court Tuesday, she added. The first suspect was arrested on charges of illegally smuggling Iraqis into Germany, but media reports said investigators also believe he belongs to the Islamic extremist group Ansar al-Islam. The group, composed mainly of ethnic Kurds from northern Iraq, is suspected of recruiting holy warriors for suicide missions in Iraq. U.S. officials believe it has links to al-Qaida.
The ethnic Kurds are the crowd that Zarqawi and his Jordanians, Palestinians, and other Arabs aren't supposed to stand out in. Kurds aren't Arabs. Except for the goofs who join outfits like Ansar, they don't even particularly like Arabs...
The arrests follow the capture of suspects in Germany and Italy last month. Among them was Abderrazak Mahdjoub, an Algerian believed to have links to al-Qaida who was arrested on an Italian warrant in Hamburg. The Italian government said the arrests grew out of an investigation of a ring suspected of seeking recruits for a training camp run by Ansar al-Islam. Mahdjoub is suspected of being the ringleader.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/09/2003 12:26:16 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I bet he's found guilty.

However, he's then released for time served.
Posted by: Daniel King || 12/09/2003 11:14 Comments || Top||

#2  However, he's then released for time served.
I have no problem with that, as long as he leaves minus his head.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/09/2003 13:29 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Whining and seething because Jews for Haman is in hot water
EFL lest people get sick - Induhmedia; watch foir BIAS! Scroll down, if you can stomach it. Hat tip LGF.
Israel IMC is being villified, harassed, and investigated under charges of anti-semitism. They have asked for help securing web hosting at a site outside of Israel, so they’ll be less open to attack from Israeli authorities.
To introduce with my own opinion/commentary:
The ugly truth is that both
(a) antisemitism exists and people legitimately raising that concern are often wrongly villified and attacked
AND
(b) antisemitism is unjustly used by individuals, groups, and authorities to chill and silent legitimate and much needed criticism of the unjust acts of violence and opression done by the state of Israel.
"We need to die off."
This latest news is a really ugly instance of the latter, done by Israeli police. Here’s the story, posted on a global Indymedia discussion forum:

The Israeli company who provided us with space on their server (Actcom) has recieved very threatening phone calls to their homes and offices in regard to a cartoon by Brazilian cartoonist Latuff showing Sharon and Hitler kissing. Further, a police investigation has been started against us in regard to this cartoon, accusing us of incitement.
"We are PISSED to 25 that they saw this for what it is!"
The news about this has been all over the Israeli media. (Ma’ariv, Ynet,
etc.) They are accusing us of anti-semitism and incitment. One article even goes so far as to say that the red color of the cartoon background signifies blood and is therefore violent (red and black are also the color of the Nazi flag, and for that matter red is the color of the red flag of the Left). This is a ridiculous accusation. (http://www.nfc.co.il/archive/001-D-35615-00.html) The articles in the media accuse Indymedia of publishing the cartoon. It is obvious that they have no understanding of what open-publishing is. The article was published without our involvement whatsoever, by the cartoonist himself in Brazil. We did not publish it and we did not put it as a feature.
*Twang!* "Damn that harp! Busted again!"
Posted by: Atrus || 12/09/2003 3:19:40 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I just noticed that I forgot to delete the "over" so could you please do that, Fred?
Posted by: Atrus || 12/09/2003 15:40 Comments || Top||


Women’s rights in Mideast? How about here in U.S.?
by Dina Rabadi -- Special to The Bee
Shirin Ebadi will receive the Nobel Peace Prize in Stockholm on Wednesday for her work fighting for democracy and the rights of women and children in Iran. The honor will reinforce the emerging importance of human rights — and in particular women’s rights — globally. America could use her.
Ah yes America, that tyrannical country that clamps women/blacks/gays in irons.
Even with the political history and atmosphere of Iran, Ebadi and other women there have made impressive improvements in their society — in some cases surpassing the state of women in the United States. Iran, for example, has 14 women in its 270 seat-parliament. That’s better representation than women in the U.S. Senate.
The are 2nd class citizens in a no power parliament. hmmm
As the Bush administration continues to threaten the reproductive rights of women, as women vote for a governor with a history of alleged sexual harassment, as 80 percent of fourth-grade girls continue to diet (www.nowfoundation.org), as women continue to make up the majority of those in poverty, we need to look at the condition of women in our own country before looking down on the status of women in the Middle East.
“Reproductive rights” = Abortion. I am not sure which Bush policy that “threatens” their right to kill fetuses?
Too bad many American women don’t seem to care.
Maybe they don't see the "problem" the same way the writer does?
Women such as Rosette McClave, 34, who was profiled in Boston Globe columnist Derrick Z. Jackson’s piece entitled, "A few uplifting messages from Arnold’s sponsors." McClave said the stories about Schwarzenegger’s sexual misconduct on movie sets "had no effect on me. What I care about was that Arnold was not part of the old guard."
First get Bush on Abortion and Arnold on groping. A two-fer!
According to a 1998 Time/CNN poll, more than 50 percent of American women between the ages of 18 and 34 say they are simpatico with feminist values, but do not necessarily call themselves feminists. These are young women such as Laura, a recent graduate of the Rhode Island School of Design and an aspiring film director, who said: "I’m not a feminist. If you’re talented enough and work hard enough, it won’t matter if you’re a woman or not. I don’t want to sit around and whine about being a woman. I just want to focus on doing my work."
Sounds like Laura isn’t oppressed or discouraged because she is a female
Whats wrong with her?
"How many female directors can you name?" I asked her. She paused, said nothing. Not surprising: Women are 7 percent of all directors working on the top 250 films of 2002, according to professor Martha M. Lauzen, School of Communication, San Diego State University. Even if Laura were given the opportunity to direct a film, chances are she would still have to deal with the wage gap — as do most American women. The Institute of Women’s Policy Research’s 2002 report, "The Status of Women in the States", indicates that women earn 73 cents for every $1 earned by men. The numbers are lowest in Wyoming, where women earn only 64.4 percent of men’s wages.
I earn 30% less than my counterparts in private business
Boo friggin hoo. With success comes the $$$ (men and women).
Perhaps American women have become too selfish, or scared. Many choosing to evaluate the need for feminism — defined as the theory that women should have political, economic and social rights equal to men — base their responses on their own experiences. If they don’t experience sexism, then no one else does. Others are scared that if they speak up and say, "I should be paid more," they will lose their jobs. Scared that if they tell their boyfriend, "Don’t treat me that way," he will leave them. Scared that if they say, "I am a feminist because systems in this country do not yet guarantee equality," they will be stereotyped as butch, anti-family and male-hating.
Women such as Shirin have faced worse obstacles: banned from work, imprisoned, humiliated. In other Middle Eastern countries, fighting for human rights — women’s rights — has meant torture, rape, even death. Now does losing a boyfriend seem so bad?
Now I am confused which is worse: U.S. or Middle East?
Comparing the U.S. records on Human Rights (and women’s rights) and the record of ANY Muslim country is laughable. They aren’t even in the same universe. Yes women are allowed to serve in the Iranian Parliament and there is NO law forbidding any Women for running for any office in the U.S. Also Member of Congress (male or Female) actually have the authority to write and change laws. Unlike their Iranian counterparts. I have two Daughters and I can’t think of a better country that I want my Girls to grow up in. No imprisonment, humiliation, or torture at the hands of the Government. Show of hands, how many female Ranters are itching to move to Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, or any other Muslim country?

Just another bikini=burka=lap dancing polemic.

Yawn!

Call me when you're really oppressed.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/09/2003 1:59:17 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  as 80 percent of fourth-grade girls continue to diet

Waitaminnit. Last I heard, people were bitching because American school kids are too fat. Now they're supposed to stop dieting?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 14:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Nora Ephron came to mind immediately. Barbra Streisand. Those chick flicks aren't directing themselves.
Posted by: BH || 12/09/2003 14:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Leaving out President Clinton and his sexual harrasment and possible rape of numerous women makes this look like a bit like a shrill partisan attack.
Posted by: ruprecht || 12/09/2003 14:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Dina Rabadi is a Jordanian immigrant to America who sounds like she would be happier in Iran. It's a pity she won't actually move there, given the lofty status of the fairer sex in Iran.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/09/2003 14:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Damn, Fred, that's disturbing!

What heinous crime did this poor woman commit? Driving a car? Talking back to her husband? Showing an ankle? Being raped?
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 15:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Dar, I suspect that like her Paleo cousin she was probably raped by her brothers, became pregnant, and then refused to commit suicide. These people boil my blood!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/09/2003 16:14 Comments || Top||

#7  "Iran, for example, has 14 women in its 270 seat-parliament. That’s better representation than women in the U.S. Senate."

???

Female rep in Iran: 14 / 270 ~ 5 %

Female Senators in the US: 13 / 100 ~ 13%

Barbara Boxer (D - CA)
Maria Cantwell (D - WA)
Hillary Clinton (D - NY)
Susan Collins - (R - ME)
Elizabeth Dole (R - NC)
Diane Feinstein (D - CA)
Kay Hutchinson (R - TX)
Mary Landrieu (D - LA)
Barbara Mikulski (D - MD)
Lisa Murkowski (R - AK)
Patty Murray (D - WA)
Olympia Snowe (R - ME)
Debbie Stabenow (D - MI)

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Where do these f*ing journalists get their cheek ? Do they really think we are so dumb and lazy ?
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 12/09/2003 18:02 Comments || Top||

#8  Dar, are you talking about the picture? Unfortunately, in all fairness, I think the exact instance was she murdered her husband. Whether that was a justifiable homicide in my eyes, or in yours, I cannot say. Nevertheless, Taliban knew how they saw it.
Posted by: Glenn (not Reynolds) || 12/09/2003 18:04 Comments || Top||

#9  That’s better representation than women in the U.S. Senate." ??

Math is so hard.
Posted by: Barbie || 12/09/2003 18:40 Comments || Top||

#10  Iran, for example, has 14 women in its 270 seat-parliament. That’s better representation than women in the U.S. Senate.

Don't forget Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) - 14 women Senators
Posted by: ab || 12/09/2003 18:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Even if you fail to count the women in the US Senate that have R's next to their names (just as conservative African Americans are not truly African Americans in the eyes of the left) you come up with 8/100 or 8%.
Posted by: ruprecht || 12/09/2003 19:26 Comments || Top||

#12  ab: Thanks for the addition. Okay, so maybe we're not dumb or lazy, but I will have to accept sloppy :)

ruprecht: My thoughts exactly, maybe the Inane Jordanian was only counting Dems...

I wonder how many readers of the Bee read that screed, nodding their heads sagely...

Pathetic.
Posted by: Carl in NH || 12/09/2003 21:46 Comments || Top||

#13  Wage myth.Independent studies have repeatedly shown that women are paid pretty equally with men if time worked is factored in.The wage gap exists because women will take substantial time off when having children.This results in a career being several years behind a male of same age.IF anyone starts whining about huge wage gap,ask what job anywhere in US has differ starting pay for males and females.
Posted by: Stephen || 12/09/2003 22:06 Comments || Top||


Horrifying US Secret Weapon Unleashed In Baghdad
Indymedia’s laugh of the day. EFL
On that date, al-Ghazali and his family sheltered in their house as a fierce street battle erupted in his neighborhood. In the midst of the fighting, he noticed that the Americans had called up an oddly configured tank. Then to his amazement the tank suddenly let loose a blinding stream of what seemed like fire and lightning, engulfing a large passenger bus and three automobiles. Within seconds the bus had become semi-molten, sagging "like a wet rag" as he put it. He said the bus rapidly melted under this withering blast, shrinking until it was a twisted blob about the dimensions of a VW bug. As if that were not bizarre enough, al-Ghazali explicitly describes seeing numerous human bodies shriveled to the size of newborn babies. By the time local street fighting ended that day, he estimates between 500 and 600 soldiers and civilians had been cooked alive as a result of the mysterious tank-mounted device.
Ahah! The finally got that thing working, did they? 'Bout time...
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 1:42:07 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Death RayTM on an Abrams?

Sweet...
Posted by: Raj || 12/09/2003 13:52 Comments || Top||

#2  See, that deal we made with the Martians at Area 51 did pay off.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Martians?

No, we've finally copied the Master's shrink-matic ray!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 14:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Isn't this the thing they used in Ghostbusters? Guess the army's pretty confident that Saddam is dead.
Posted by: BH || 12/09/2003 14:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Ghostbusters. Hmmm... "Whatever you do, DON'T cross the streams!"
Posted by: Dave D. || 12/09/2003 14:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Of course all the troops had to wear their X-ray glasses during the operation.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/09/2003 14:53 Comments || Top||

#7  Dammit! I didn't authorize any live-fire tests of the new Top-Secret Imperial Plasma Cannon! Heads will roll!
Posted by: GW || 12/09/2003 15:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Hey, does anybody know when they're going to patch super-duper-melter-gun this into the latest version of America's Army?

I can't wait to try it out. *g*
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 12/09/2003 15:28 Comments || Top||

#9  It pales in comparison to my flatulence after beer and gas station burritos.
Posted by: Brainiac || 12/09/2003 15:47 Comments || Top||

#10  SWEET.
Sounds like they definitely crossed the streams--Woo Hoo!
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 12/09/2003 15:47 Comments || Top||

#11  Ah Braniac we are brothers. I also suffer from TF.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 16:24 Comments || Top||

#12  If I'm not mistaken, George Forman is the pitchman for this new Super weapon. Or is this a Ronco product?
Posted by: Islam Sucks || 12/09/2003 16:57 Comments || Top||

#13  "Introducing the new, improved Ronco Muhej-a-matic! It slices, it dices, it get's 'em ready for God to sort 'em out! Now only $1,999,999 at your local arms merchant?"

Some restrictions apply. Not available where prohibited by law. You must be 18 years of age or older to operate the Muhej-a-matic. All sales final. No batteries or fuel oil included. Offer not available in Indiana or Rhode Island.
Posted by: snellenr || 12/09/2003 19:07 Comments || Top||

#14  Was this from Indymedia or Indiana Jones? Did they unleash the Ark of the Covenant?
Posted by: Uncle Joe || 12/09/2003 23:54 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Musings on Al-Dujaile...
From IraqtheModel - EFL - read the whole thing.
In Saddam’s time we used to whisper about Al-Dujaile, we all knew that a massacre happened there, but we didn’t dare to ask about the details and I never met any one from there. Now I can know all about it from my new friend and here it is, in his own words:

-"Al-Dujaile is my home town, I always looked at it as god’s heaven on earth......

- Date: 7/8/1982, Saddam decides to visit the village, the Ba’ath party in the region prepared the people to make a big reception, they took us out of the schools (I was 7 years old). They made us line in a row on both sides of the road to wave for him and cheer his name. It never occurred to me that it would be my last day in the childhood world. I was forced to skip that period of my life with such cruelty that I can not explain.

-17 of the finest young men in the village had decided to put an end to the tyrant’s life at that day, they had the courage to face him, we didn’t know about their intention. The brave men set an ambush among the palm trees, they couldn’t tell which car was his, there were dozens of cars, all identical in model and color.

-The attack starts, the brave young men open fire from their simple weapons, some of the body guards get killed, others wounded, the tyrant get panicked, imagine that (Saddam is afraid) the man who enjoyed terrorizing people lives a moment of fear with all its details, he was so close to death this time. 8 of the attackers were killed, the rest fled out of the country.

(Woe to the sinners) who dared to make him scared, you should fear his revenge, you should learn the lesson so that it won’t happen again, you should bow more and more and fear more and more, you should be scared to death so that you don’t dare even to think of harming him; the shadow of god on earth.

-The answer was fast, one hour after the escape of the tyrant, we had to face his anger, I heard the sound of helicopters over our heads wreaking their vengeance upon our small village, backed later with shovels that leveled the trees with the ground, the order was clear(the terror should be great) so that the others would learn.

The women and children had their share, and this is what saw: extraction of nails and teeth, electric shocks, whipping with lashes, using razors to tear the skin into shreds, my aunt was left hanging from the roof after her clothes had been wrapped of her in front of her brothers to force them to talk. Do you know how much pain we suffered? Can you imagine? I doubt it.

Date: 4/9/2003, I can’t believe it, the tyrant falls, is it a dream? Does it mean no more fear, no more terror, and no more death? We jumped into the streets wreaking our vengeance on his pictures and statues that surrounded the village he raped in a dark night. The towns and villages expelled him and expelled his name

..WE WERE SAVED.

I took a deep breath, the air had the scent of freedom, nothing can be more beautiful, it’s difficult to describe, but we were overwhelmed by happiness, with only one distress: where had our beloved ones gone?

We started to search the security departments in Baghdad - like thousands of Iraqis - looking for a trace, I didn’t take a long time, we found what we were looking for. The documents of the crime, I read with tears in my eyes; the presidency order dated: 7 /23 /1985, signed by the tyrant, ordering the execution of 143 men from Al-Dujaile, the youngest one (Najeeb Abd Kadim) 11 years old. Among these, 35 were relatives of mine.

My friend surprised me saying ”we don’t regret what happened, and yesterday, when the nine remaining heroes returned to Iraq, we met them with flowers, as the heroes of all the Iraqis, and we will never blame them, as they’re the ones who kept our chins up.”

This is what peace looked like in Iraq at Saddam’s time.

The battle is not over yet, the evil and cruel criminals are every where, and they will not rest until they kidnap our dreams, but this time we’re stronger, as we are not alone. The whole good and brave people on earth took it upon themselves to fight with us, we hate wars and all the bloodshed that comes with them, but we have no other choice.

Let us all dream of a world of love and real peace.
Posted by: mercutio || 12/09/2003 4:18:30 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


US kill squads in Iraq?
Source is al-Guardian, filtered through Iran Broadcasting, so don't get your hopes up...
Israeli advisers are helping train US special forces in so-claimed 'counter-insurgency operations' in Iraq, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders, Britain's Guardian daily revealed Tuesday.
Rumsfeld read my comments...
US special forces teams were already behind the lines inside Syria attempting to kill those perceived as possible threat before crossing the border with Iraq, the newspaper said.
Heh heh...
Citing unnamed sources familiar with the operations, it reported that a group focused on the "neutralisation" of Iraqi guerrilla leaders was being set up. "This is basically an assassination programme. That is what is being conceptualised here. This is a hunter-killer team," a former senior US intelligence official told the paper.
Makes excellent sense to me...
He added that he feared the new tactics and enhanced cooperation with Israel would inflame a volatile situation in the Middle East.
We're at war. How can you get more "volatile" than being at war? (Does that hat really have an anus? Wow!)
The Guardian said that according to US intelligence and military sources, the Israeli defence force had sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces. According to two sources, Israeli military "consultants" had also visited Iraq, the paper reported.
"Hiya, Moshe! Welcome to Iraq!... Damn! Now that's some pliers!"
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 12/09/2003 15:38 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like good press to me--live in fear, asshats!

We're at war. How can you get more "volatile" than being at war?
Hey, just 'cause we're at war doesn't mean we can't still be friends!
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 15:46 Comments || Top||

#2  assassination programme

I prefer to think of it as an customized battle plan, carefully and thoughtfully designed to meet the end ends of the target customer...
Posted by: snellenr || 12/09/2003 15:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Sy Hersh covers similar ground in the New Yorker.

Of course, our new tactics seem like a bad idea to him because, like just about everything else, they remind him of what we did Vietnam. He specifically mentions the Phoenix Program, which he seems to think was totally ineffective.

I almost posted it here, but Hersh's credibility record is in Al Jiz territory. Now that a more credible organ like iribnews.com has come out with a similar story, I guess we can trust Hersh

Hersh has been wrong about everything since 9/11 but occasionally has some good tidbits mixed in with the falsehoods and anti-admin spin. Hope he's right here because these kill squad tactics seem particularly well suited for debaathification.
Posted by: JAB || 12/09/2003 16:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Yup that seals it! They found out that our Zionist Overlords are calling the shots in Iraq. Time to pack our stuff up and go home. How do people like this continue to function in the world today?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/09/2003 16:11 Comments || Top||

#5  US special forces in so-claimed 'counter-insurgency operations'

It's about f@cking time. Good practice and experience for those guys. Happy hunting. Bring home a big one.
Posted by: Rafael || 12/09/2003 16:17 Comments || Top||

#6  US special forces teams were already behind the lines inside Syria attempting to kill...

They say this like it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Matt || 12/09/2003 16:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Would that it were true!!!
Posted by: Sgt.DT || 12/09/2003 16:31 Comments || Top||

#8  ... attempting to kill those perceived as possible threat before crossing the border with Iraq...

OK, jihadi, avoid the long trip to Iraq, we gotcha 72 virgins right here.
The 72 Virgins Dating Service
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 12/09/2003 16:41 Comments || Top||

#9  Sgt.DT -

True or not, it makes the Bad Guys step a little more carefully, doesn't it?
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2003 16:44 Comments || Top||

#10  I keep hearing this concern about the volatility of the ME and worries about its destabilization...

What a load. As if it isn't already both in spades and self-inflicted to boot. Pfeh.

Wanna see volatile? Go ahead and hit the US on its home ground with any of your dream weapons, AlQ. I guess our response since 9/11 wasn't sufficient. You talk about the Crusaders, OBL, wanna see medieval?

And where, pray-tell, is there any stability worth salvaging in the ME? I LIKE the idea of destabilizing 22 dictatorships. I LIKE the idea of going toe-to-toe with jihadi killers. I LIKE the idea that they should feel threatened and defensive. I LIKE the idea that they and their apologists whine and seethe because they are finally facing someone who can send them to Paradise in a heartbeat with only GPS coords, instead of issuing endless toothless drivel via the UN. Who gives a rat's ass what lame dogma they whine on an LLL talk show to a kiss-ass yellow journalist?

Ain't life a bitch? It certainly is if you're a looney or a jihadi. And that, IMO, is a good thing. Thanx, Dubya!
Posted by: .com || 12/09/2003 18:32 Comments || Top||

#11  And where, pray-tell, is there any stability worth salvaging in the ME?

Inside Israel.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 18:58 Comments || Top||

#12  And the only way to ensure it survives is...
Posted by: .com || 12/09/2003 19:16 Comments || Top||

#13  US kill squad for the Middle East, two guys in North Dakota turning keys at a control panel
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 12/09/2003 23:52 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Council to Expel Iranian Group
Iraq’s U.S.-backed Governing Council is to expel the Iranian opposition group Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) by the end of the month and confiscate its assets, a Council statement said Tuesday. "This was a unanimous decision to expel the terrorist organization from Iraqi territory by the end of this year and close its premises and stop its followers from any activity before then," the statement sent to Reuters said.
"Goodbye, don’t let the door hit you in the ass."
It added that confiscated assets and weapons would be used for a fund to compensate victims of the ousted regime of Saddam Hussein, which allowed the Iranian group to operate from Iraq.
U.S. officials said last month that MEK members in Iraq were being screened for possible involvement in war crimes, terrorism and other activities. Members of the group surrendered to invading U.S. forces earlier this year and are being held in camps in the north.It was not clear from the statement where they would go when expelled from Iraq.
France comes to mind, I believe they have offices there.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 3:03:07 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraqi Council OKs War Crimes Tribunal
EFL:
Iraq’s interim government voted Tuesday to establish a tribunal to prosecute top members of Saddam Hussein’s regime for crimes against humanity, two people who attended the meeting said. The tribunal will be formally established on Wednesday, when the U.S. administrator for Iraq, L. Paul Bremer, temporarily cedes legislative authority to the Iraqi Governing Council so that it can create the court. One Governing Council member, Younadem Kana, told The Associated Press that the court’s proceedings would be open to the Iraqi public — possibly even broadcast on television.
Make it worldwide Pay-Per-View and you’ll make a bundle.
He said the first suspects brought to trial could include top officials of Saddam’s government on the "deck of cards" of the 55 most-wanted Iraqis. "The top 55, they are the first priority," Kana said. Those could include several former top officials in coalition custody, such as former foreign minister Tariq Aziz, former vice president Taha Yassin Ramadan or Ali Hassan al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali" for his role in chemical attacks on Kurds in the 1980s. In the unlikely event that Saddam himself is captured alive, he presumably would be tried by the special tribunal as well.
He’d get top billing.
The U.S.-led occupation military forces have pledged to cooperate with the tribunal and hand over their detainees for trial, Kana said. In all, hundreds of Saddam aides could be brought to face judges on charges of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity relating to mass killings of Iraqi Kurds and Shiite Muslims, as well as Kuwaitis and Iranians, Kana said.
I’d publicly invite the Iranians to give evidence at the trials.
It remained unclear whether the law included the death penalty, although Kana said most council members agreed it should — "like in Texas."
The international human-rights groups will drown in their own spittle. I love it.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 2:33:57 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME! Anyone want to bet on the coverage this will get in the Arab/Muslim press? IHO we should always have a nice trial before we march them out and shoot them.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/09/2003 14:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Ooh--I may have to upgrade to digital cable to see this...even if I have to get up at 3 a.m. to watch it live!

"Like in Texas"--LOL!
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 15:50 Comments || Top||

#3  The Iraqis must have been listening to "Whiskey for the Men, Beer for the Horses"
Posted by: Tresho || 12/09/2003 17:01 Comments || Top||

#4  For those who don't know what Tresho means:

Toby Keith's "Whiskey for my Men, Beer for My Horses
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 12/09/2003 18:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Meth of my Mutt.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 18:50 Comments || Top||

#6  For dang it for. FORE!

Meth for my Mutt.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 18:52 Comments || Top||


The Butler Mobile
From StrategyPage:
Since the heavy combat in Iraq ended last April, American troops have been improvising additional protection for their unarmored vehicles. One of these efforts has become something of a standard. Capt. Darryl M. Butler, an engineer officer for the 354th Civil Affairs Brigade (attached to the 1st Armored Division) developed a armor kit for Humvees. A half ton of steel plate, cut into 25 precisely measured pieces, is attached to a Humvee in a few hours and provides protection from fragments (from bombs and shells). Called the MPAH (Modified Protection for un-Armored Humvees) kit, nearly fifty have been installed and several hundred more kits have been ordered. Unofficially it’s called “The Butler Mobile.” The kits are being made and installed (under Captain Butler’s supervision) by Iraqi contractors. This provides jobs for friendly Iraqis, and protection from the hostile ones. Civil Affairs troops are most vulnerable to attack, because they often travel without the protection of a convoy. Civil Affairs work consists of traveling around to talk and negotiate with Iraqi leaders (official and otherwise) and supervising reconstruction projects. Civil Affairs units have no armored vehicles, and only rifles, pistols and machine-guns as weapons. The most common form of transportation is the Humvee. The Butler Mobile is not only a life saver, but it also makes the job a lot less nerve wracking. Captain Butler is a reservist, an engineer who works for the Corps of Engineers.
God love the Reserves, if you need a expert in anything, you’ll find one.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 1:57:31 PM || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Half a ton of steel plate on a Humvee. What's the MPG on that, two?
Posted by: BH || 12/09/2003 14:16 Comments || Top||

#2  BH - I think it's GPM, actually.

Good to see Capt. Butler maintaining the tradition of Sgt. Culin!
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 14:46 Comments || Top||

#3  In the fine tradition of "hedge cutters" on the front of Shermans in Normandy...
Posted by: mojo || 12/09/2003 15:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Ah yes... Americans! Time to balance the engine and polish the heads. (And don't get me started on the exhaust system) We need air dammit! We need a healthy engine! We need Noise! Let 'um know their nightmare is 2 blocks away and closing fast. Then use the electric hummer.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 16:30 Comments || Top||

#5  "What's the MPG on that?"

Somewhere saw new-car review of a Diesel Hummer (oughta be close.) They said about 8, it "likes gas stations." Pretty heavy already, another half-ton isn't really all that outlandishly much.
Posted by: Glenn (not Reynolds) || 12/09/2003 18:20 Comments || Top||

#6  You're a cruel man, Shipman. A cruel man...
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2003 19:23 Comments || Top||

#7  That's why we should send Shipman to Iraq. They would shake in fear at his scare tactics!
Posted by: Charles || 12/09/2003 21:04 Comments || Top||

#8  Hey, it's Iraq - there's got to be diesel fuel there somewhere.

Besides, I'd rather spend money on fuel than burial and medical expenses.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/09/2003 21:58 Comments || Top||


Basra revenge killings increase
Revenge killings have been increasing in Iraq’s second city, Basra. The southern province has seen a sharp rise in the number of former Baath Party members being gunned down.
Tap, tap, tap..That’s funny, not only the surprise meter, but the sympathy gauge seems to be broken as well.
Basra coalition forces have not been targeted to the same extent as in central Iraq, but the crime rate is high with murder a daily occurrence. It seems the killings are targeting anyone from the previous regime, and not only senior figures connected with ousted leader Saddam Hussein.
Payback’s a bitch, ain’t it?
While day to day life in Basra continues unhindered there is an undercurrent of fear with the daily news that another person has been killed or kidnapped.
Only if you were a former member of the regime.
Police officials say that in the past few weeks at least 20 former Baath Party members have been murdered. In some instances the killers have left signs around the victim’s neck denouncing him as a Baathist. The attacks have been blamed on tribal feuds and the jostling for power within the city.
Local people also accuse a number of Islamic organisations but no one is willing to openly point the finger. So far no one has been arrested.
It needs to be stopped, but it’s way down my list of things to do.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 12:02:57 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There maybe some counter attacking going on by the thugs as I heard some mosque got boomed in Bassra today/yesterday(?).

The attacks have been blamed on tribal feuds and the jostling for power within the city.
Probably all true and them some.

Wonder where a Baathist goes for fun/relaxation.
Posted by: Lucky || 12/09/2003 12:36 Comments || Top||

#2  With more than 300,000 in mass graves and 1,000,000+ dead from Saddam's wars, I can't really blame them. Trials, etc. are probably the ideal solution, but, hell, sometimes it's just gotta be done this way.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 12:43 Comments || Top||

#3  "but the sympathy gauge seems to be broken as well".

Oh sure, it's wrong...but who cares?
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 13:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Why is it wrong to be unconcerned about the deaths of these guys? They weren't misunderstood. They weren't in the wrong place at the wrong time. They were the regime, dammit!
Posted by: BH || 12/09/2003 14:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Good. That means that U.S. forces don't need to go hunting for Baathists there - the local population can do that.
And when they're finished send some of the zappers up to the triangle to mete out some more justice. Hey, guys 25 million dollars for Sammy.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 12/09/2003 14:48 Comments || Top||

#6  I think the US should immediately drop the price on Sammy by a million dollars, and let it be known that the price will drop by a million on the first of every month...I'd wager that the humoiliation/greed factor will kick in instantly...
Posted by: seafarious || 12/09/2003 15:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Steve, if the needles on the sympathy gauge and surprise meter are being bent around the '0' pole, they're not broken, they're just trying to read in the other direction.

I have a "bi-polar" meter myself, as if you couldn't have guessed :-)
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 16:19 Comments || Top||

#8  be known that the price will drop by a million on the first of every month

Seafarious I hope you're working for us. A Dutch auction on an arab... Geez I expect Sadam would turn himself in if the reward nears the Uday Line.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 18:57 Comments || Top||

#9  This is hardly a suprise. It was only a matter of time before the Iraqi people started gunning for those that oppressed and murdered them.

Seafarious, you need to sign up with the militaries political branch.
Posted by: Charles || 12/09/2003 21:09 Comments || Top||


ICDC Hero
Employing recent training from Task Force Ironhorse soldiers and a lot of luck, Amged Gawhar Suliman has a story to tell for years. When a train carrying supplies for Task Force Ironhorse was derailed by an improvised explosive device, the first on the scene were Coalition-taught members of the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps. During the first chaotic minutes, a group of suspected saboteurs drove by and fired shots at the Iraqi force. As the ICDC soldiers engaged those shooters, they were attacked from behind by armed thieves that had boarded the train to loot the supplies.

One of the ICDC soldiers returned in a taxi to FOB Omaha, where they live, to bring reinforcements. That is how Suliman, an ICDC soldier from Tikrit, arrived on the scene. “When we arrived at the train, the looters were hiding in a farm in ambush and began shooting at us,” said Suliman through a translator. His first reaction was to take cover and return fire with his AK-47 assault rifle, he said. When Suliman emptied one magazine at the looters and tried replacing it, his weapon jammed. He selected a third magazine and continued to fight. When the smoke had cleared, the ICDC forces had detained five looters and prepared another local suspect, injured in the conflict, to be transported to FOB Omaha.

During the mop-up stage, a final single shot rang out. “After the shot came on me, I opened the car door and went down on the ground,” Suliman said. Checking inside his shirt and finding blood, Suliman got back into a car and returned to FOB Omaha where a medic removed a small fragment from the Iraqi’s chest from that last round. It was only then that Suliman discovered the earlier magazine that had malfunctioned wasn’t faulty, but had blocked a shot aimed for his chest. Wearing the magazines across his torso had proved to be a life-saving choice. “I don’t know where it came from, but I felt it,” said Suliman, who was fasting for Ramadan. Suliman, who joined the newly formed ICDC to be a part of building a new Iraq, said that God only knows if his fasting protected him. “I am very happy,” said Suliman. “If not for this magazine, the bullet would have gone into my heart.”
Put that magazine on your mantle, and make sure you show it to your kids and to their kids.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 9:43:23 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Coalition Provisional Authority Briefing 12-8-2003
Selected Hilites
In response to direct-fire contacts along the Syrian border over the past two nights, coalition forces in the north conducted operations at five separate locations east of the Syrian border. Eight people and two vehicles were detained for firing small arms at an observation post in Qaiyara.

In Samarra, soldiers raided a building in search of a targeted individual believed to be financing anti-coalition activities. They did not find the target, but a relative of the suspect was captured and is believed to be part of the financing operation. That person provided additional information, which led to the capture of a third relative involved in the operation and nearly two million U.S. dollars in cash.

In Baghdad, the 1st Armored Division conducted 514 patrols and four offensive operations and detained 17 individuals. On Saturday evening, a patrol was alerted to an explosion in Sadr City. Witnesses at the scene stated that four Iraqis attempted to fire an improvised multiple-rocket launcher that malfunctioned and exploded, killing three and wounding a fourth. Police forces evacuated the wounded Iraqi to a hospital, where he subsequently passed away.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 9:41:13 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "an improvised multiple-rocket launcher that malfunctioned and exploded, killing three and wounding a fourth.
Ummm. Candidates for 2003 Darwin Award?

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA! More and more of this will happen as the well trained cadre are either exterminated or captured.

"he subsequently passed away."

Do you "pass away" if you blew yourself away trying to kill someone?"
Posted by: alaskasoldier || 12/09/2003 12:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmmmmm... Seems to me, the usual means of moving these multiple rocket launchers is by donkey cart. That brings up two questions: was a donkey involved, and are troops positive about the identity of the "injured" militant taken to the hospital? Or was the donkey there, ignored, and later used to feed Usay's lions and leopards? Haven't heard much from them lately - has Baghdad reopened its zoo?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/09/2003 14:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey, this is just like the Paleo boomers. Once the Israelis took out upper management and the technical-type chaps, work accidents went through the roof (sorry, couldn't help that one). So the Plan™ that worked in Israel is working in Iraq. Just keep up the pressure and have the patience.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/09/2003 15:15 Comments || Top||

#4  conducted operations at five separate locations east of the Syrian border

Not clear on my geography here.... is east of the border IN Syria. I hope, I hope, I hope....
Posted by: Mercutio || 12/09/2003 15:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Just checked the map... No, dammit!
Posted by: Mercutio || 12/09/2003 15:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Reminds me that during the Algerian war a French officer managed for the FLN getting a shipment of grenades he had tampered. Whenever someone tried to throw one of them it detonated in his hands. :-)
Posted by: JFM || 12/09/2003 16:10 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Air Force Jets Head to the Junkyard
Following the Biblical call to turn swords into ploughshares, junkyard owner Ahmad Ali Thalib is converting scrapped jet fighters into pots and pans. Standing beside the gutted remains of a MiG-25 — capable of flying nearly three times the speed of sound — Thalib joked that in recent months he has destroyed more aircraft of the once-proud Iraqi Air Force than had all of its assorted enemies put together. The tons of duraluminium and other metals that are recoverable from each warplane are worth a small fortune to scrap metal dealers in Iraq and neighboring countries. "We’re also selling to scrap dealers in Lebanon, Turkey and Iran, but some of this ends up as cooking containers for Iraqis," he said. "At least these planes are now useful to people," he said tapping on the triangular green national insignia on the MiG’s flank. The now-defunct Iraqi Air Force was once considered the best in the Arab world. Founded in 1931, it fought in numerous conflicts in the Middle East, battling the British in 1941 and Israel in 1948 and 1967.
They were pretty consistently on the wrong side. Pretty consistently shot up, too. "Best in the Arab world" isn't much of a title...
Iraq’s armed forces were officially disbanded in May, after the U.S.-led coalition occupied Baghdad and ended Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship. Although Washington is now scrambling to set up a new army to deal with an escalating rebellion, there are no immediate plans to resurrect military aviation.
EFL
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 8:55:32 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I expect he could move some duraluminum cookware made from MIG25 parts on E-bay. Perhaps I'll invest in a Foxbat Frying Pan.

There is money to be made.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/09/2003 9:06 Comments || Top||

#2  I'll invest in a Foxbat Frying Pan.

Shipman appears to be a Cajun...
Posted by: snellenr || 12/09/2003 9:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Coming soon to an infomercial near you . . . the Viktor Belenko Foxbat Grill(tm)! (It makes hamburgers at three times the speed of sound.)
Posted by: Mike || 12/09/2003 11:02 Comments || Top||

#4  by RONCO
Posted by: Glenn (not Reynolds) || 12/09/2003 13:39 Comments || Top||

#5  I just hope they clean those MiGs good or your burgers will be coated in sand.
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 15:52 Comments || Top||


ITALIAN TROOPS SEEK OUT WEAPONS
During the night of the 6 th of December, Italian Task Force Dimonios conducted Operation CLEAR AREA in the zone between Al Riffa`l and qal At-Sukkar. Units of the Savoia Cavalry, marines of S.Marco Battalion and Lagunari troops operated vehicle check points and conducted extensive searches.

The operation proffered many automatic weapons. Thanks to intelligence provided by the local people, a hidden depot containing a huge quantity of weapons, ammunition and explosives was discovered. The cache included:
151 Rocket Propelled Grenade launchers
53 PG-7 rockets
38 PG-9 rockets
1 PG-5 rocket
1 mortar bomb 82 mm
300 kilos of explosive

In addition, throughout the operation, 13 mortar bombs (82 mm), 6 mortar bombs (60 mm) and 6 munitions (37 mm) were confiscated.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 8:30:10 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  God bless the Italians.
Posted by: Ned || 12/10/2003 0:21 Comments || Top||


Embankment collapse kills three soldiers
Three soldiers from 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division (Stryker Brigade Combat Team), and part of Task Force Ironhorse were killed and one soldier was injured in an accident that occurred during a combat patrol northeast of Ad Duluiyah in the evening of Dec. 8. Two Stryker infantry carrier vehicles were traveling on a rural road when an embankment collapsed causing them to roll over into a canal. The injured soldier was evacuated to 21st Combat Support Hospital. Names of the deceased soldiers are being withheld pending notification of next of kin. The accident was not the result of hostile action. Both vehicles have been recovered. The cause of the accident is under investigation.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 8:26:21 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  50s/60s versions of the Jeep had a tendency to roll over also. Too many GIs have been hurt or killed from poor vehicle design. I hope that's not the case here. This doesn't bode well for the Stryker.
Posted by: Spot || 12/09/2003 8:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Stryker looks like it has a pretty low center of gravity -- but if the bank gives way under your river-side wheels, you'll roll. Too early to ring the "bode well" bell...
Posted by: Ethnic Stereotype || 12/09/2003 8:53 Comments || Top||

#3  I understand that soldiers want to be ready to move and fire, but with the mines and such I would buckle up.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 11:58 Comments || Top||

#4  They rolled into a canal, I'd say drowning is a real possibility. Couldn't get out in time.
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 12:09 Comments || Top||


NEW IRAQI SECURITY FORCES
Iraqi Civil Defense Corps (ICDC) recruits began moving from Fallujah to the Navea Training Center for the next ICDC class, which is scheduled to graduate December 15th. In addition, Civil Affairs (CA) teams completed recruitment for the area’s second Border Police class. Currently, the class consists of 220 recruits and is scheduled to graduate December 21st. Each candidate received a $20 signing bonus for volunteering. Due to the overwhelming interest in the program, more Iraqis arrived for class than could enroll.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 8:23:57 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


RAIDS December 8, 2003
During the past 24 hours, the 82nd Airborne Division and subordinate units have conducted 19 offensive operations; 14 cordon and searches and five raids. Soldiers conducted 178 patrols, including eight joint patrols with the Iraqi Border Guard and Iraqi police.

In 3rd Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division’s areas of operations, paratroopers conducted two simultaneous cordon and searches southeast of Mahmudiyah. The searches resulted in the confiscation of rocket propelled grenade launchers as well as mortar rounds and equipment.

Soldiers from 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division initiated Operation Abilene, consisting of 12 raids and cordon and searches conducted to capture individuals responsible for attacking coalition forces. The operation was successful and resulted in the capture of 12 personnel and confiscation of various weapons.

In 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment’s areas of operations, elements conducted a series of five raids in Sadah, a small town east of Husaybah. The mission resulted in the capture of 11 personnel along with four million Iraqi dinar.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 8:22:08 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq blast injures 31 U.S. troops
Thirty-one U.S. soldiers were injured when a car bomb exploded outside the entrance to their barracks in a northern Iraqi town, the U.S. Army says. The blast happened when a car approached a gate to the base of 3rd Brigade of 101 Airborne division between 6 a.m. and 7 a.m. Tuesday at Tal Afar, about 40 miles (60 kilometers) west of Mosul, the base’s spokesman said. The injuries were mostly caused by flying debris and glass and none were life threatening, Major Trey Cate of the 101st Airborne said. Officials say U.S. troops opened fire on the vehicle after it failed to stop at an entry point. The vehicle then detonated. "Whether it was a suicide attack or not, I don’t know," the spokesman said.
Does it matter? Someone just proved you need better security. 31 injured???
Coalition forces are also investigating two explosions Tuesday morning at a mosque in the al-Herea neighborhood of northern Baghdad. The blasts killed at least three Iraqis and wounded several others, Iraqi police said. Dr. Ahmed Hussein Al Dabash, a cleric at the mosque, told CNN he believes it was an rocket-propelled grenade attack, noting they have received threats before. "I blame the Americans for planting hatred among the Muslims," the cleric said.
WTF?? If it’s hatred it didn’t need to be planted, you already had it.
Two U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq Monday when a bridge collapsed near Balad, overturning two of the Army’s newest fighting vehicles, called "Strykers." A Pentagon official tells CNN one of the "Strykers" landed upside down in the water below, and that at least two soldiers were killed.
That’s a big f#cking "oops" for not checking the bridge first (unless it was sabotaged).
Posted by: Rafael || 12/09/2003 4:10:19 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dr. Ahmed Hussein Al Dabash, a cleric at the mosque, told CNN he believes "I blame the Americans for planting hatred among the Muslims," the cleric said.

That drip, drip, drip you hear is the eroding of CNN's credibility to venture far enough from their "minders" to get a real quote.
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 7:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like the troops are staying nice and alert.
Posted by: snellenr || 12/09/2003 9:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Two U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq Monday when a bridge collapsed near Balad, overturning two of the Army’s newest fighting vehicles, called "Strykers."

At 38,000 lbs, Strykers are not just big SUV's - they're huge SUV's. Note that empty 18-wheelers with 1 container clock in at only 10,000 lbs. You would have thought that these guys would have figured it out beforehand. What a waste of men.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/09/2003 10:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't forget! Anti-terror demonstrations planned for tomorrow Dec.10 in Iraq. Spread the word.
Posted by: Anonymous || 12/09/2003 12:24 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Commander Robot Now A Peg-Leg
Captured Abu Sayyaf leader Ghalib Andang is recuperating at V. Luna Hospital after his left leg was amputated late Tuesday night, the military said Wednesday.
OK, so they separated the mangled, gangrenous leg from the rest of the body - now - which section did they discard????
Lt. Col. Daniel Lucero, Armed Forces spokesman, said the left leg of Andang alias Commander Robot had to be removed because it had become gangrenous. Gangrene is the decay of a human organ due to blood loss. This decay or infection could spread to other parts of the body.
Which might not have been such a bad thing - sort of like - giving God a sort of headstart of "sorting them all out" at his end
"It [Andang’s left leg] could not be saved and it had become infectious," Lucero said. Lucero said military orthopedic surgeons decided to cut off Robot’s left leg around 11 p.m. Tuesday. The operation lasted until 3 a.m. Wednesday.
Hey, I’ve got an idea - let’s amputate his left leg - at the neck
One of the surgeons, Dr. Rafael Region, said Robot may suffer secondary infection after the operation.
Even more reason to take out a few more - say 85 or 95 - centimeters of "questionable tissue" north of his leg
Lucero said Robot will undergo psychological counselling to relieve him of the trauma of losing his leg.
They’re erecting a gallows as this is written, and they’re worried about his psychological reaction to losing his leg????
Amid fears that half the population of the Philippines - that is, all above nine years of age Abu Sayyaf sympathizers may attempt to silence him, Robot has been placed under tight security, Lucero said.
Otherwise, of course (this being the Philippines, and with Christmas coming and all) he might have been placed on unspervised work release
Meanwhile, United States Ambassador to the Philippines Francis Ricciardone said Washington does not want to take custody of all of Andang just the "juicy bits". He said the U.S. will be closely monitoring Andang’s case to make sure he is punished for his crimes. Lucero said Andang has to face the charges against him despite his physical condition. "The court will have to decide if his physical condition will mitigate the charges against him," Lucero told Magandang Umaga Bayan.
OK, so, the gallows will have to have an escalator
The AFP said it will use Andang’s arrest to lead to other Abu Sayyaf bandits, saying it would “squeeze everything they could out of”
’Sorta like toothpaste being squeezed out of thetube?
him, especially the identities of officials or civilians who are or have been protecting the bandits.
Oops! Well, scratch that gallows escalator - something tells me that old Andang might not make it to trial - or even to interrogation. ’Happy dirt-nap, buddy.
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 12/09/2003 10:24:52 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fire up the Giggle Juice! We have a live one here!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/09/2003 23:53 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
A Troubling Influence: Grover Norquist and Extreme Islam
This is long and important article. For those of you familiar with Grover Norquist, you will fully appreciate the dynamics at work. To those of you who are not familiar with Grover Norquist, this is an important article.

EFL

The association between Grover Norquist and Islamists appears to have started about five years ago, in 1998, when he became the founding chairman of an organization called the Islamic Free Market Institute, better known as the Islamic Institute.1 The Institute’s stated purpose was to cultivate Muslim-Americans and Arab-Americans whose attachment to conservative family values and capitalism made them potential allies for the Republican Party in advance of the 2000 presidential election.

If successful, such an outreach effort could theoretically produce a windfall in votes and campaign contributions. Consequently, it enjoyed the early support of Karl Rove, when he was then-Governor Bush’s political advisor, and who knew Norquist from their days in the College Republicans.

Unfortunately, some associated with the Islamic Institute evidently had another agenda. Abdurahman Alamoudi, for one, a self-described “supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah,”2 the prime-mover behind the American Muslim Council (AMC) and a number of other U.S.-based Islamist-sympathizing/supporting organizations, saw in the Islamic Institute a golden opportunity to hedge his bets.

Click here for the entire article on FrontPageMag.com.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 12/09/2003 8:34:03 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Damn. I can only hope that this is a case of keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

Else, I hope this becomes a MAJOR political issue that the Democratic candidates can harp on Bush for. My support for Bush does NOT extend to fraternizing w. the enemy.
Posted by: mjh || 12/09/2003 9:45 Comments || Top||

#2  I find this article extremely upsetting as I have repeatedly given donations to Norquist's various libertarian organizations. He had better respond to these allegations and damn quickly too.
Posted by: Secret Master || 12/09/2003 13:30 Comments || Top||

#3  SM, if I remember correctly, Norquist has responded to these allegations in the past. His response, again, AFAICR, was to call those making the allegations anti-Arab racists.

Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 14:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Looking at the influence of the Soddies with the help of Norquist and the foot-dragging by the "bow-tied" Arabists in the State Department, it's a wonder that we get anything done at all in the WOT.
Posted by: Sgt.DT || 12/09/2003 19:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front
"F-Bomb" proliferation: Dean supporters "drop the big one" at rally
Today’s "Best of the Web" has a couple of eyewitness reports (third item) from recent Dean campaign events:

The New York Post reports on a New York fund-raiser for Dean at which "antiwar comedians" performed:
"We have to get this piece of living, breathing s--- out of the office," said comedian Judy Gold whose performance--like those of Janeane Garofalo and David Cross--was liberally larded with the F-word. . . .

Garofalo last night described the Medicare prescription-drug bill that Bush signed yesterday as the " ’you can go-f--- yourself, Grandma’ bill."

Gold ridiculed Democrat Joseph Lieberman for being unable to campaign on Jewish holidays.
And what did Dean do about this? "He made a vague reference to ’some language that was used--I think it’s wrong.’ " And his aides told the Post "that the Democratic front-runner found them so ’offensive,’ he almost refused to come out and speak at the fund-raiser." Not exactly a Sister Souljah moment.

We got a similar report from reader Neil Garvin, in response to our item yesterday on the Dean campaign:
I went to a rally in Atlanta about three months ago, perhaps the same one to which the lovestruck gentleman in your story went. Anyhow, the people who entertained the crowd while the governor was wrapping up a previous engagement were a complete embarrassment.

First, a "poet" took the stage, and reeled off an Amiri Baraka-lite poem about exploding owls how America should look in the mirror when it tries to pin the blame of September 11 on someone, and how there were lots of poor people in America. I don’t know much about spoken-word poetry, but this thing sucked on both aesthetic and polemical levels.

Next, a guitar-strumming bum took the stage and sang a stridently anti-Bush song, asked the audience if it was "fully loaded" yet, and added "f---" to a few blues covers (as far as I know, it wasn’t John Kerry in disguise). I turned to my roommate in shock, and he at me.
First Kerry, the haughty, French-looking Massachusetts Democrat who once served in Vietnam, and now Dean. Who will be the next Democrat to deploy the F-bomb?
Posted by: Mike || 12/09/2003 4:32:38 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  These morons couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the f***ing heel.
Posted by: Lyndon || 12/09/2003 18:44 Comments || Top||

#2  BOOGER!
Posted by: J. Fever Ph.D. || 12/09/2003 18:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Poo-Poo!
Posted by: D. Gephardt || 12/09/2003 19:30 Comments || Top||

#4  by pandering to the extreme left the dems are a deff long shot next year and probably in 08.
Posted by: Dan || 12/09/2003 19:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Damn. Judy Gold is Jewish too.
Posted by: Charles || 12/09/2003 20:57 Comments || Top||

#6  As opposed to the corporate-packaged and paid for GOP--I find this refreshing--continue on wage slaves!
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 22:42 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm glad the grown-ups are back in the White House. Let's keep them there until all the baby-boomers finally die off.
Posted by: Les Nessman || 12/09/2003 23:57 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Peace in Middle East! Gerbils mysteriously disappear!
Actor Richard Gere hugged a Palestinian legislator and met with Israeli settlers Tuesday during a tour of Israel and the West Bank. Gere’s three-day visit was coordinated by Peacemakers Circle International, a network of organizations working for social justice. The group toured Jordan over the weekend. Encouraging good relations between Israelis and Palestinians and "spreading the culture of peace" are ways Hollywood stars can improve peoples lives, said Daoud Kuttab, a Palestinian adviser for the network. Gere, who made a similar trip in June, refused to speak to reporters. In Israel, the movie star met with settlers from the West Bank and walked on the walls around Jerusalem’s Old City. Later, he toured the West Bank town of Ramallah, where he embraced legislator Hanan Ashrawi, a well-known Palestinian spokeswoman and human rights activist. Gere was "very human, very intense, very caring, very kind," Ashrawi said. Outside an office where he was to meet with Palestinian community leaders, a group of his fans clapped and shouted when they saw him stepping out of his vehicle. Gere also visited Bethlehem in the West Bank and the Arab-Jewish Israeli city of Jaffa, south of Tel Aviv. His previous political activism has included the issue of human rights in Tibet.
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 4:22:31 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did he go to the Temple Mount?
Posted by: seafarious || 12/09/2003 17:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Go ride some buses you jackass.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 12/09/2003 17:17 Comments || Top||

#3  I love most of the roles he plays in movies, but God, is he stupid otherwise. His kum-bah-ya behavior is bound to get other people killed (but not the "Palestinians" unfortunately), while he escapes to inflict his stupidity on the next bunch.

He's the epitome of cute, but totally clueless about the real world.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/09/2003 17:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Tibet will not be free until fundamental changes are made in ChiCom China. The Paleos and Israelis will not be really free until there are fundamental changes in the middle east. All this Kumbayah crap means nothing when you are dealing with psychopaths who have no compunction about slitting your throat and then getting a good nights sleep. With the Hollywood idiots, it's all about feelings™. Nothing else.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/09/2003 20:13 Comments || Top||

#5  As I may of said before, this guy is an actor. He is only coherent when someone lifts a script to his face.

Course the logical conclusion is that Ronald and Ahrnuld are not real actors.
Posted by: john || 12/10/2003 22:25 Comments || Top||


Israelis bump off two on Lebanese border
Israeli troops shot dead two men on the Lebanese border after they crossed a wall that divides a village and separates the two countries.
"Moshe, fire a warning shot over their heads... Ouch. That's gotta hurt. A little higher next time, Moshe."
The shootings took place in the village of Ghajar on Tuesday. It is one of the most serious incidents along the border for some months. A Lebanese police source in Beirut told reporters that several shots were fired at around 17:15 - but he could not give the names of the victims. Neither the United Nations Interim Forces in Lebanon nor a spokesman for the Shia resistance group Hezbollah were prepared to comment on the incident. Ghajar, at the bottom of Mount Hermon, straddles the Israeli-Lebanese border and is inhabited mainly by Alawites, most of whom have obtained Israeli citizenship even though they consider themselves Syrian.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 12/09/2003 15:18 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The "Party of G-D" has two less members...

__________________borgboy
Posted by: borgboy || 12/09/2003 18:30 Comments || Top||

#2  There were some speculations that they were hunters. I wish to know what they were hunting - the Israelis?
Posted by: marek || 12/09/2003 21:08 Comments || Top||


Africa: East
Sudan, Rebels to Include Amnesty in Peace Deal
The Sudanese government and rebels said yesterday a general amnesty would be included in a peace deal they are now negotiating in Kenya with the aim of ending 20 years of civil war in the south. A spokesman for the rebel Sudan Peoples Liberation Army said it would establish reconciliation committees in the south to deal with war crimes committed in the conflict. “We have ... agreed that there will be a general amnesty announced on the signing of the peace agreement for the whole of Sudan,” the SPLA’s Samson Kwaje told Reuters in Khartoum, where a rebel delegation is making its first official visit. Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Nagheib Al-Kher, who also said the deal would contain a general amnesty, added that people would not be prosecuted retrospectively.
He means retroactively...
Kwaje said the amnesty would be similar to one declared in South Africa in 1994, where those seeking amnesty had to disclose their offences but not in public and a truth commission was formed to establish what happened during apartheid. “We will create a regional truth and reconciliation committee to deal with war crimes so that we as a people can move on,” Kwaje said. Kwaje said the amnesty would be part of a “healing process” in Sudan after years of violence and would exempt people from actual judicial proceedings. Sudan’s vice president and the SPLA leader resumed face-to-face talks in Kenya on Sunday amid predictions they will clinch an end to two decades of war before the end of the month.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 12/09/2003 15:14 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front
Ah, politix
From ScrappleFace
(2003-12-09) -- Former presidential candidate Al Gore this afternoon said he was tricked into endorsing Howard Dean and had intended to back his former running mate, Senator Joseph Lieberman. Mr. Dean allegedly imitated Mr. Lieberman’s voice in a late night phone call to Mr. Gore, and invited him to Harlem to announce his endorsement.

"By the time I realized that I wasn’t endorsing Joe, I was already there at the podium with Howard," said Mr. Gore. "It was embarrassing, but there was nothing I could do about it. It was already out there."

In a scene reminiscent of the story of Jacob and Esau from the Bible, Mr. Lieberman came in at the end of Mr. Gore’s speech and pleaded with him.

"Have you not reserved an endorsement for me?" cried Mr. Lieberman. "Do you have only one endorsement to give? Endorse me also, Al."

But Mr. Gore remained stoic.

"Howard came deceitfully and has taken away your endorsement," he said. "I have virtually made him the Democrat nominee, and he shall rule over you."
Posted by: Atrus || 12/09/2003 2:11:16 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lieberman can always ask for a recountendorsement
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 16:04 Comments || Top||

#2  I guess that, at this point in the Democratic nomination process, we could say that Dean was "Selected, not Elected"...
Posted by: snellenr || 12/09/2003 19:01 Comments || Top||

#3  As oppsed to the Thief in Chief?
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 22:45 Comments || Top||


Presentation of Soldier’s Medal for Heroism
Lt. Gen. James R. Helmly, Chief, Army Reserve, will present the Soldier’s Medal, the highest peacetime award for heroism, to Captain John Chovanes, an Army Reservist with the Army Medical Corps. The ceremony will be held today, 1 December 2003, at the Pentagon in Room 2B548 at 2 pm.

In the aftermath of the attack on the Twin Towers on September 11th, 2001, Captain Chovanes at risk to his own life, voluntarily rendered medical aid, and assisted in the rescue of a New York Port Authority officer. The officer was buried well below the surface of the collapsed buildings. Rescue efforts involved slowly digging free the buried officer due to debris being above and around the rescue site. Captain Chovanes administered lifesaving medical treatment throughout the night to the buried officer, under the constant risk that the overhead debris, including girders, and masonry, would collapse on him, the buried officer and the rescuers. The officer was freed on the morning of 12 September 2001.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 2:00:07 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  :: salute ::
Posted by: seafarious || 12/09/2003 16:49 Comments || Top||


Iran
No trace of kidnapped tourists in Iran
Police have yet to find any trace of three European tourists and an Iranian tour guide kidnapped last week on a bicycle tour in southeast Iran, a government official said Tuesday. The general director of the Sistan-Baluchestan governor’s office, Gholam-Reza Javdan, told the news service Kar that the one Irish and two German tourists and the Iranian guide were abducted by a drug- trafficking ring who demanded a EUR five million ransom. He could give no further details but said police had seized 40 tons of drugs from the bands within the last eight months and the ransom money might be an effort to compensate for that loss. The head of Iranian tourism, Mohammad Abd-Khodaie, told the student news agency ISNA Tuesday that Iran is still a very safe place for tourists, except for the border areas to Afghanistan and Pakistan where the tourists were abducted.
"I hate it when that happens."
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/09/2003 1:04:38 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They should keep them. Anyone stupid enough to go on a bicycle tour in an area like that should be removed from the gene pool and not be ransomed at taxpayer's expenses.
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  I remember reading a Washington Post online chat from 2001 with the guy who was the spokesman for the Northern Alliance at the time. Mazar-i-Sharif had just fallen, and some guy asked the Northern Alliance spokesman if it would be safe for him to visit Afghanistan the next spring. A very polite no was returned. I think that guy would want to be on this trip.

Instant Darwin award here folks. Though the dopes who went to Algeria were stupider.
Posted by: OminousWhatever || 12/09/2003 17:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Riding a bicycle as a tourist in just about the most dangerous area this side of chechnya. Now that's rich. They are not eligible for Darwin Awards until their demise is properly documented. BTW, the author of the Darwin Awards books, Wendy Northcutt, was at Title Wave Books in Anchorage, Alaska last night. Was on a flight so I missed her presentation. damn!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/09/2003 21:24 Comments || Top||


East Asia
Bush: No support for Taiwanese independence
Edited for brevity.
President Bush said Tuesday after meeting with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao that he opposes the apparent interest of Taiwan’s leaders in taking steps toward independence. Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office after a 40-minute meeting with Wen, Bush said he had told the premier, "The United States policy is one China. We oppose any unilateral decision by either China or Taiwan to change the status quo," Bush said, "and the comments and actions made by the leader of Taiwan indicate that he may be willing to make decisions unilaterally, to change the status quo, which we oppose." It was the administration’s strongest statement to date in opposition to Taiwan’s plan to conduct a referendum on March 20 on whether the Taiwanese people want to demand that China withdraw hundreds of missiles aimed at Taiwan and renounce the use of force against the island. The administration sees this as an indirect step toward independence, a view shared by Chinese authorities who have threatened military action against the island if the referendum proceeds as planned.

But Wen, refraining from belligerent comments, said China’s goal is to pursue peaceful reunification with Taiwan, "as long as a glimmer of hope" exists. "Stability can only be maintained through unswerving opposition to pro-independence activities," Wen said. He said his country sought to maintain a system of "one country, two systems." "We will do our utmost to bring about national reunification through peaceful means," Wen said. "The Chinese government respects the desire of people in Taiwan for democracy, but we must point out that the (Taiwanese leaders) are only using democracy as an excuse and attempt to resort to defensive referendums to split Taiwan away from China," he said. "Such separatist activities are what the Chinese side can absolutely not accept."
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 12:48:00 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wasn't Schroeder just whacked here days ago for saying pretty much the same thing?
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 15:58 Comments || Top||

#2  TGA--Yes, he was. I'm not happy about Bush saying the same thing either. Taiwan deserves better.
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 16:02 Comments || Top||

#3  I forgot to add "rightfully whacked". I understand that nobody wants to spill water (or blood) over the issue but as long as China is not a democracy and Taiwan is and has nuclear missiles pointed at it, "One China" means "One Non Democratic China". And that's not a policy a US president should back.
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 16:59 Comments || Top||

#4  I stick by my prediction: After the 2004 elections, Taiwan will hold a referendum and vote for independence. Is this so hard for the world to accept? There are a lot of Chinese in this world and cetainly there is room for two Chinas.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/09/2003 17:35 Comments || Top||

#5  I think the Bush policy is to support reunification, but in the sweet by-and-by. Paying lip service while quietly blocking any actual moves in that direction leaves resources free for other things. In the meantime, the old guard in mainland China has more time to die off. If we do it right, their grandchildren will die of old age...
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2003 17:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Correct, TGA, and I'm hoping that Bush is using the preferred definition of diplomacy -- the ability to say "nice doggie" while looking for a big rock. There ya go, Mr. Hua, I said some soothing words, now then, about your vassel state in the northeast, shall you reduce them to worm food or shall we make some glass?
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 18:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Well I guess everybody does so... even the Germans. Say "One China", get the 3 billion dollar contract for Siemens...

I think we can live with the status quo... but a Chinese guarantee that it would never try to change that status quo by force would help.
Posted by: True German Ally || 12/09/2003 19:31 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Psychologist: Malvo is a Nut Has Mental Disease
Sniper suspect Lee Malvo was so brainwashed by mastermind John Allen Muhammad that he could no longer tell right from wrong when an FBI analyst was killed outside a Home Depot during last year’s shooting rampage, a psychologist testified.
Is that right or possibly wrong?
Malvo’s attorneys are presenting an insanity defense to capital murder charges in the death of Linda Franklin, who was shot in the head on Oct. 14, 2002, as she and her husband loaded packages into their car. Dewey Cornell of the University of Virginia testified Monday that he diagnosed Malvo with a dissociative disorder, a form of mental illness in which a person loses touch with reality. Cornell gave no opinion on whether the disease rose to the level of insanity.
"You see officer - I drank 2 fifths of Vodka and ’lost touch with reality’. So I should go free — sorry about the deaths but you see it really wasn’t my fault." Exact same excuse as a drunk driver.
"He is, in my experience, a very unusual, rare case," he said.
Just like eveyone else who goes ’sniping’ like this.
Malvo told him he was the spotter - not the shooter - in all of the sniper shootings except the last one, Cornell said. That contradicted a confession to police in which Malvo, laughing at times, said he was the triggerman in all of the shootings in metropolitan Washington that left 10 people dead and injured three. Jurors previously listened to the audiotape of that confession. Prosecutor Robert F. Horan Jr. expressed skepticism about the diagnosis, noting that a dissociative disorder from brainwashing is poorly defined in the medical literature.
Simple solution. Simply have the person who pulls the switch on ole sparky have a ’disassociative disorder’.
Horan was expected to continue cross-examining Cornell when the trial resumed Tuesday. Cornell interviewed Malvo in jail more than 20 times since February. Malvo initially defended Muhammad but after several months, Malvo said he realized that Muhammad had manipulated him, Cornell said. "He realized he was an expendable person" to Muhammad, Cornell said, recalling that Malvo wondered, "If I was doing right, why did God let it stop?"
Probably because he doesn't like you. When you're rotting in hell, sitting between Himmler and Heydrich, that'll give you something to think about...
Cornell said Malvo had been instructed to claim credit for the killings to spare Muhammad. Muhammad spent months preparing Malvo for a mission by controlling Malvo’s diet and exercise, telling him that blacks were oppressed by the white government, teaching him to fire weapons and isolating him from family and friends, Cornell said. There was a lot of mystery about what Malvo was being trained to do, Cornell said, but it was clear that Muhammad wanted to regain custody of his three children, who were living with Muhammad’s ex-wife in the Washington, D.C., suburbs, and that Muhammad wanted money from the U.S. government to fund his vision of a new Utopian society. Then, while visiting Muhammad’s family in Louisiana in August 2002, a couple of months before the shooting spree, Malvo was finally told "that they were going to carry out a sniper plan to start shooting people, one after another," Cornell said.
"Y'know, Lee Boyd, I been thinkin'. I think we should do something really stoopid and brutal, that'll catch the nation's attention, so we're sure to get snagged and put to death. What do you think?"
"Gosh, John Allen. That sounds like a great idea!"
That left Malvo in turmoil, to the point that he considered suicide, Cornell said. Malvo had misgivings about the plan, but he also felt an obligation toward Muhammad, whom he idolized, Cornell said. Malvo, a Jamaican native and ILLEGAL ALIEN, told the psychologist that he had hoped Muhammad would adopt him so he could become an American citizen, go to college and become a pilot.
Learning how to fly 747’s no doubt. No need to learn to take-off or land.....
By the time Malvo had been fully subjected to Muhammad’s indoctrination, "the effects were he believed what he was doing was right and that John Muhammad was a chosen person of Allah." Cornell also testified about Malvo’s intense interest in the film "The Matrix," which Malvo watched more than 100 times - including just before Franklin’s shooting.
Hmmm... I've watched the same movie .33 times...
Defense lawyers played a brief clip from the movie, in which a character played by Keanu Reeves guns down numerous guards in a building lobby. Jurors also watched clips of several bloody sniper video games that Malvo had played.
This explains why we have hundreds of thousands of snipers since the film and games release...... oh...wait....
Cornell said the film seemed to represent how Malvo viewed his situation, with a hero chosen by a black father figure to lead a revolution against "an evil government" that oppressed people.
Its the ’Evil Empire’ again! Brahahahahah!!!!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/09/2003 12:20:10 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Malvo's defense in a nutshell: Victim! VICTIM!
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/09/2003 12:40 Comments || Top||

#2  "Psychologist: Malvo Has Mental Disease"

That's not a very PC way to talk about the world's fastest growing religion.
Posted by: BH || 12/09/2003 12:47 Comments || Top||

#3  how bout this headline

Mohammad brainwashes people to become killers

make it a macro
Posted by: mhw || 12/09/2003 15:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Malvo's defense team must've been watching "Law and Order" re-runs. The dissociative disorder defense didn't work on that show either.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 12/09/2003 16:54 Comments || Top||

#5 
The dissociative disorder defense didn't work on that show either.
Guess they didn't watch all the way to the end. Bummer for the little murderer.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/09/2003 18:01 Comments || Top||


We're number... ummm... two!
The WizBangBlog weblog awards show Rantburg as number two, behind The Volokh Conspiracy and edging out Crooked Timber by 478 to 443. I'm impressed. That's good company...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 12/09/2003 11:54 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cool! Congrats, Fred. Well-deserved.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/09/2003 18:03 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Israel’s first Esquimeaux soldier
Eighteen-year-old Eva Ben Sira is training to become a squad commander in the Negev desert - a far cry from the frozen wastes of her homeland. Eva was born to a Yupik Eskimo mother and a Cherokee American father before being adopted by an Israeli couple. Her twin brother, Jimmy, will become the army’s second serving Eskimo, when he joins the force next year.

The twins’ remarkable journey to Israel began when their mother, Minnie, found herself unable to support Eva and Jimmy after their father walked out. Alaskan social services stepped in and, at the age of two, the twins were sent to live with their grandmother, who struggled to raise the children herself. Their plight came to light when an Orthodox Jewish couple, Meir and Dafna Ben Sira, came to visit Minnie’s neighbour - Dafna’s mother - a Swiss Catholic woman, who had emigrated to Alaska from Israel in 1989. The Ben Siras offered to adopt Eva and Jimmy, but had to overcome a welter of religious and cultural obstacles to get the adoption approved by both tribal elders and an Alaskan Orthodox rabbi. "We got to know the children and they needed a home," Dafna told BBC News Online. "We wanted to have a family and the children had no place to go," she said. They remained in Alaska for five years until the adoption process was completed. Eva and Jimmy were brought to Israel (they learned to speak Hebrew in three months), converted to Judaism and integrated into Israeli society among the Orthodox community of Nir Etzion, a village near Haifa.
EFL

Equimeaux in the Negev... Samoans... Horny Hungarians... Cannibal curses... Muammar's hats... Midget terrorists... Liberian soldiers... the belles of Tonga... the Estonian wife racers...

I love this blog.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 11:37:32 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not just an Israeli Inuit soldier, but an Israeli Orthodox Jewish Inuit soldier. I got a kick out of this story.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/09/2003 12:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Don't forget his Cherokee blood!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 12:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Robert: HER Cherokee blood. The picture with the article reveals she's a cutie pie.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/09/2003 13:24 Comments || Top||

#4  I stand corrected.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/09/2003 13:35 Comments || Top||

#5  The Paleos don't have a chance if the Yapik start joining forces with Israel. Those people are phenomenal - in some ways better than the Israelis. A division of Inuit in Afghanistan would do wonders. Bin Laden and all his friends would surrender, just to ask for protection. I'll laugh all day on this!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/09/2003 15:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Ain't that America for you. That's almost as multicultural as the night I had dinner with my Gurkha buddy in an Indian restaurant across the street from a foot-washin' Baptist church . . . in Columbus, Ohio.
Posted by: Mike || 12/09/2003 15:57 Comments || Top||

#7  OP -

Brief, hilarious image of two guys in mukluks with grins and harpoons posing on either side of a dead Binny...
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2003 16:21 Comments || Top||

#8  Does this go in the classix? If so, then please put the California Loon article there too.
Posted by: Atrus || 12/09/2003 16:35 Comments || Top||

#9  The Alaska National Guard has long had Inupaq (northern and northwestern Alaska) and Yupik (Western Alaska, including St. Lawrence and Little Diomede islands) in their units. They are great cold weather soldiers. On winter manouvers, they would always bring some of their winter gear, like mittens and hats, which were superior to issued equipment. They would always bring along dried fish and seal oil to supplement the MRE's. In cold weather, seal oil give one heat and energy, I can personally testify. I had a sister-in-law that used to be in the guard. They had a picture of her in the Fairbanks News-Miner. Beautiful face you can fall in love with, but she was very deadly in her tight groups with the M-16.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/09/2003 21:01 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Janklow guilty of manslaughter, resigns from House
Edited for brevity.
Rep. Bill Janklow, found guilty Monday of second-degree manslaughter, said he will resign from Congress on Jan. 20, the day he is tentatively scheduled to be sentenced. Janklow, R-S.D., the state’s only member of the U.S. House, told the Dakota News Network he will send his letter of resignation to House Speaker Dennis Hastert this morning. Gov. Mike Rounds planned to convene a meeting of constitutional officers late Monday evening to discuss how to handle a possible special election to replace Janklow in the House. Janklow made the announcement within an hour and a half after a Moody County jury convicted him of manslaughter and three lesser charges in the Aug. 16 traffic death of Randy Scott, 55. The 12-member jury deliberated for less than five hours Monday afternoon. The congressman was charged criminally with felony second-degree manslaughter and three misdemeanors in the accident that killed Scott, a Hardwick, Minn., farmer who crashed into Janklow’s Cadillac on a motorcycle as Janklow drove at highway speed through a stop sign at a rural intersection. To reach that verdict, the jury decided the 64-year-old Republican consciously disregarded a known risk as he sped through a stop sign south of his hometown, headed to his home in Brandon. The four-term governor and first-term congressman faces a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine, as well as the likely end of his storied political career.
Growing up in SD, I respected then Gov. Janklow for his candid and blunt speaking, but he has a history of speeding and reckless driving that finally caught up to him when he killed a man. I just hope SD gets a decent "R-SD" with more respect for the law back in the House.
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 10:47:42 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I cannot believe this guy wasted my tax dollars going to court! Let's see, he acknowledges killing the guy, but blames it on his diabetes - and then expects a jury to find him innocent of manslaughter. Hey, I agree about Ted..but come on!! Where did he get off going to court over this in the first place. He should have copped a plea and ended this long before it went to court and frittered away the taxpayers dime. I see no honor here, only a megalomaniac who was so blinded by his own brilliance that he actually thought he might get off.
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 13:40 Comments || Top||

#2  B - I agree. The whole "I have diabetes and, although fully aware of my diabetic condition, neglected to feed myself thereby having an episode" was NOT a viable defense, and I can't believe his attorneys didn't plead out of it.

But I am pleased to see justice done, and that the lawmakers are not above the law--well, those not named "Kennedy", anyway...
Posted by: Dar || 12/09/2003 14:32 Comments || Top||

#3  He'll leave on Jan. 20th??? He should leave NOW. He is as of this moment a convicted felon. Out now.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 16:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh but he's a Republican--only other people should be responsible for their actions-it never applies to the GOP asses like Limbaugh, etc just those unfortunate enough to have less cash
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 22:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh but he's a Republican--only other people should be responsible for their actions-it never applies to the GOP asses like Limbaugh, etc just those unfortunate enough to have less cash
Posted by: NotMikeMoore || 12/09/2003 22:50 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Paleo web site foams at mouth
Something called Ramallah Online just gave out its Bigot of the Year. LGF didn’t get it, Professor Reynolds didn’t get it, and this award is such a joke that Rantburg didn’t even get a vote. They gave it to Chris Matthews of MSNBC and for stark raving lunacy and shrieking hysteria, this piece has to be read to be believed. This will give you an idea:
I don’t believe that a bigot like Mathews can be a patriotic American. He is a white supremacist to the core. Loving America is not just about worshiping the power of its airforce or the skills of Special Forces. It is about caring about other Americans, especially when they are vunerable. As a community, in these most trying of times, we have been embraced by the common decency of the average American, the unsung heros, our neighbors, our friends and our co-workers. They understand that being patriotic means loving all the people of our country, not just the ones that share their ethnicity. Mathews grew up in a wierd time and place and will go to his grave a miserable hater without a kind word for anybody that wouldn’t have passed musster with his idol, Father Coughlin. His loyalty is not to his country, but to his pigmentation and his Philadelphean ways.
Yeah, can’t trust those Philly guys as far as you can throw a cheesesteak. And I’ve never heard anybody called this before:
So, in recognition of this vile pile of worm waste, we declare Mathews the NileMedia Bigot Of The Year for 2001.
Yes, by all means. Give these people their own country.
Posted by: Christopher Johnson || 12/09/2003 1:48:15 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  2001?
Posted by: GKarp || 12/09/2003 3:27 Comments || Top||

#2  When you adjust for the language differences, it's overall a very flattering piece.
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 7:21 Comments || Top||

#3  his Philadelphean ways.

Clearly a reference to the 1959 Paul Newman movie The Young Philadelphians, which he did immediately before he appeared in Exodus... (best I can come up, shrugging shoulders).

Although the enclosing webpage appears current, I think the article itself is from Jan 2002 (near as I can tell from the context)...
Posted by: Ethnic Stereotype || 12/09/2003 9:06 Comments || Top||

#4  his Philadelphean ways.

Think "City of Brotherly Love"...
Posted by: mojo || 12/09/2003 11:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Kind of a dated award and this guy sounds like a flaming commie. I love Chris Mathews and it's one of the few programs I watch on MSNBC.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/09/2003 11:51 Comments || Top||

#6  "Pigment uber alles!"
Posted by: Anonymous || 12/09/2003 12:01 Comments || Top||

#7  His loyalty is not to his country, but to his pigmentation and his Philadelphean ways.

So he's a white, drunken, foul-mouthed Eagles fan?
Posted by: Steve || 12/09/2003 13:21 Comments || Top||

#8  1) "Philadelphian ways" could also be referring to Tom Hanks/Denzel Washington Philadelphia Aids/Gay movie.I assume the committee is implying Mathews supports gay rights and in their eyes that is bad thing-altho they could be implying Mathews is like the firm that opposed Hanks' character and is thus bigoted(but I doubt it).
2)The folks at Ramallah online went to Eagles game and were booed,making them bitter.
3)They are communists at heart and still haven't gotten over the Flyers whipping the Soviet hockey team.
4)Bad cheesesteak does leave an impression.
5)Ben Franklin "discovered" electricity while living in Philadelphia,and any good turn-back-the-clock Muslim hates modern technology.
Posted by: Stephen || 12/09/2003 14:07 Comments || Top||

#9  CS, what are you smokin', cause I'd like some.
I loathe Chris Matthews and if I can stomach his show, I spend half the time yelling at him to shut up!
Mr. Tardball is a DNC shill with all the usual apologist views and therefore the best friend the Paleostinian cause has on TV. Ramallah Online should rethink their award.
(Could it be that they were really aiming for former MSNBC host Alan Keyes, who called the Paleo situation like he saw it, i.e. a total crime and a fraud?)
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 12/09/2003 15:43 Comments || Top||

#10  I used to like Chris Matthews. I used to watch him during Mr. Bill's Monica crisis, and Matthews cut His Excellency no slack at all. Geraldo was on the same channel - I think it was CNBC - and I always got the impression he'd have traded places with Monica if asked. So was the guy who looks like a poor embalming job... Charles Grodin. (Took awhile for his name to come to me).

That was before Fox News, of course. In a world with no O'Reilly and no Hannity and no Fox and Friends, Matthews was pretty much it.
Posted by: Fred || 12/09/2003 19:34 Comments || Top||

#11  Not the case anymore Fred. Thank God.
Posted by: Charles || 12/09/2003 21:22 Comments || Top||


U.N. Takes Israel Barrier to Int’l. Court
UNITED NATIONS (AP) - A divided U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution Monday asking the International Court of Justice to examine Israel’s construction of a barrier that juts into the West Bank. The vote was 90 in favor, 8 opposed with 74 abstentions, reflecting uneasiness in many nations on referring the issue to the world court, based in The Hague, Netherlands. The resolution asks the court to urgently issue an advisory opinion on the legal consequences of the barrier.
Judging from the composition of the court, I think I know the answer in advance.
Several countries stressed their opposition to the barrier, but said they didn’t want the court brought in and noted that its opinion would not be noticed legally binding.
"Hey David, got a fax for you."
"From who, Moshe?"
"Another opinion from the ICJ."
"Toss it, I’m busy. And get me a coffee while you’re up."

The United States and Israel strongly opposed what they called a biased resolution, arguing that it would "politicize" the court and undermine efforts to reach a Mideast peace settlement. Israel insists the barrier, which it began building last year, is needed to prevent suicide attacks and its construction is purely for security. U.S. deputy ambassador James Cunningham called the resolution "idiotic one-sided and completely unbalanced," noting that "it doesn’t even mention the word terrorism."
Course not, this is the UN!
Israel’s U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman said "most of the world’s enlightened democracies" were among the large number of countries that didn’t support the resolution, while those who voted "yes" were "mostly tyrannical dictatorships, corrupt and human rights-defying regimes."
Trouble is, that’s over half the UN.
Arab nations argued that going to the court was the only action available to try to stop contruction of the barrier, which the Palestinians call a land grab by Israel ahead of possible talks about the borders of a Palestinian state.
Other option was to settle for peace -- no, right, no other option, got it.
"Ninety votes for the meaningless resolution are extremely meaningless valuable," said Palestinian U.N. observer, Nasser Al-Kidwa. They were "90 votes for the international law and for what is right - in spite of the the immense pressures, and even threats, to be frank with you, to which member states were subjected" not to support the resolution.
And who would know threats better than a Paleo?
Al-Kidwa warned that Israel’s continued construction of the barrier will mean the end of the so-called "road map" to peace drafted by the United Nations, the United States, the European Union and Russia. That plan envisions independent states of Palestine and Israel living side by side in peace.
Darn.
"For us, any negotiations are meaningless without first stopping the wall," he said. "For us, it is either the wall or the road map. ... If Israel continues building the wall, this will be the end of the road map."
If you insist. Pass the hot sauce.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 1:17:14 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "... those who voted "yes" were "mostly tyrannical dictatorships, corrupt and human rights-defying regimes."

And we care what they think because...?
Posted by: mojo || 12/09/2003 2:26 Comments || Top||

#2  If Israel continues building the wall, this will be the end of the road map.

Hey, we called "endsies" first! the roadmap doesn't apply if Yasir is still running things...
Posted by: snellenr || 12/09/2003 9:16 Comments || Top||

#3  "..If Israel continues building the wall, this will be the end of the road map."

This makes the mistaken assumption that after continued attacks against Israeli civilians, the "road map" has value. Until the Palestinians decide to break all the terrorist organizations in their midst, it won't.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/09/2003 10:27 Comments || Top||

#4  The Road Map had become a front for the Paleos to hide behind. Isreal isn't falling for it though, and Hamas continues to shrink. This battle will not be decided in this century. Isreal will never know peace until Islam has been eradicated. It's a fact that Islam is against the very existence of the Jews, despite protests to the contrary. I just wish Bush would come out and acknowledge this.
Posted by: Charles || 12/09/2003 21:17 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Iraqi Symphony Prepares for D.C. Concert
Muntha Jamil Hafidh describes his orchestra’s upcoming performance here in the same terms that any foreign musician might: an opportunity to learn from U.S. musicians and share his country’s culture. But Hafidh isn’t part of just any orchestra. He is co-founder and cellist for the Iraqi National Symphony Orchestra, which will play at Washington’s premier performance center after surviving 12 years of Saddam Hussein’s rule, international sanctions and war.
Wonder how many didn’t survive Uday?
The Iraqi orchestra will perform Tuesday night with the National Symphony Orchestra at the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts. National Symphony Music director Leonard Slatkin and the Iraqi orchestra’s director, Mohammed Amin Ezzat will both conduct. Famed cellist Yo-Yo Ma will be the featured soloist.
Got tickets, Fred?
Wish I did...
The State Department is co-sponsoring the concert, which offers the Bush administration an opportunity to bring home one example of how Iraqi lives have improved since Saddam was toppled. The orchestra’s visit comes as the U.S. death toll rises in Iraq and the administration is defending the decision to go to war. But in a brief meeting of orchestra leaders with a small group of reporters Monday, Hafidh launched a pre-emptive strike on questions related to the war. ``We refuse to answer any political questions,’’ he said.
"Cheez, you guys are worse than Qusay!"
Speaking through a translator, Hafidh and other members stressed the importance of presenting Iraqi music to an international audience. ``Our objective is not (just) to come here and play music, but to play music through our point of view and the way we understand it,’’ he said. Another objective ``is for us to learn about different musicians and different conductors and how they train and how they go about their work,’’ he said. That didn’t happen while Iraq was under international sanctions following the 1991 Persian Gulf War. The 63-member orchestra now practices at the Baghdad Convention Center in a heavily protected zone guarded by U.S. troops. The orchestra has also received donated instruments and sheet music.
Shouldn’t be long before they do a recording.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 1:08:07 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's nice Let's hope it's a while before their new musician friends manage to turn them against the people that made it possible for them to come here in the first place. The pressure from the arts community, to bash the US, will be intense.
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 7:40 Comments || Top||

#2  The orchestra’s visit comes as the U.S. death toll rises in Iraq and the administration is defending the decision to go to war.

They cannot help themselves can they? In the middle of what is great news, this asshat has to take a dump in my pool.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 12/09/2003 9:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Don't forget! Iraq anti-terror demonstrations planned for tomorrow Dec.10. Spread the word.
Posted by: Anonymous || 12/09/2003 12:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Anon.. who, what, where, when.
Posted by: B || 12/09/2003 13:32 Comments || Top||


Africa: East
Sudan sez they ain’t got nuthin ta do with the LRA
Sudan on Monday denied it was harbouring Ugandan rebels of the infamous Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) and called on Kampala to withdraw the allegation and apologise.
"Our Islamic feelings are so hurt!"
A statement released by the Sudanese embassy in the Ugandan capital said the charge, made late last month by Junior Defence Minister Ruth Nankabirwa, had already prompted the foreign ministry in Khartoum to summon Uganda’s ambassador in Sudan. "The (Sudanese) ministry also requested Uganda to send a fact-finding mission to Sudan, with US participation, to verify the fact that it is not true that there are any LRA camps within Sudanese territory, behind Sudan army lines," the statement added. On September 29 Nankabirwa told parliament the LRA was operating a training camp in areas under Sudanese army control. "Our forces deployed there cannot do anything, because the protocol under which they are deployed does not allow them to go beyond some lines," she said. "Upon verification of non-existence of such camps, the government of the Sudan demands an explanatory reply and an apology for that unfounded allegation," the embassy statement added.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/09/2003 12:19:33 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  udan on Monday denied it was harbouring Ugandan rebels of the infamous Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) ...

The proper response would be, "Great, then you won't mind if we come in there and kill any of the LRA we find."
Posted by: Steve White || 12/09/2003 0:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh, you mean the LRA . We thought you meant the IRA. Our bad. We may have some of those guys. We were checking for Irish looking dudes in kilts.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/09/2003 5:00 Comments || Top||

#3  "Great, then you won't mind if we come in there and kill any of the LRA we find."

Reply: "Great, then you won't mind if we come in there and kill any SPLA we find."
Posted by: Mark || 01/12/2004 7:32 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
Caucasus Corpse Count
Four Russian soldiers have been killed and another four wounded when they stumbled into a rebel ambush in a volatile mountainous region of Chechnya, local Interior Ministry officials say.

Voting in parliamentary elections in Chechnya on Sunday had been largely quiet during the day but was marred overnight when gunmen shot dead an election commission member in Gudermes. He was also a member of United Russia, a party loyal to President Vladimir Putin that headed for an overwhelming victory in the election and would spell no change to Moscow’s efforts to crush separatists in the rebel region.

"Four were killed and one soldier was taken hostage after a gun battle between the two sides," a spokesman for the regional Interior Ministry said, adding the group was ambushed in Chechnya’s notorious mountainous region of Itum Kale. "They had gone there to check out an explosion at the school."

Some officials linked a suspected suicide bomb attack on a train in southern Russia on Friday to the guerrillas. According to a local Emergencies Ministry spokesman, the death toll from that attack rose to 44 after two more victims died in hospital.
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Iran
US renews calls to Iran to turn over al-Qaeda leaders
The United States renewed calls for Iran to turn over al-Qaeda operatives on its territory but denied suggestions it might exchange Iraqi-based Iranian opposition figures to Tehran in return for members of Osama bin Laden’s terror network. "We believe Iran should turn over all suspected al-Qaeda operatives to the United States or to countries of origin or third countries for further interrogation and trial," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said. "It’s essential that other countries have direct access to information these people may have about past and future al-Qaeda plans. We acknowledge that Iran has in the years past turned over some al-Qaeda to third countries, however, we’re not aware of any progress with regard to al-Qaeda currently in detention, whom we suspect includes top al-Qaeda leadership."
If they're still conducting operations, I'm not at all sure they're in "detention."
His comments came in a response to questions about a weekend report that Jordan’s King Abdullah II was quietly trying to broker a deal between the United States and Iran in which in Iran would surrender the al-Qaeda in exchange for US action on members of the Iranian group People’s Mujahadin. US troops in Iraq are currently interrogating members of the group, which is also known as the Mujahadin-e-Khalq and has been designated a "foreign terrorist organization" by the State Department, to determine whether to take legal action against them, Boucher said. But he stressed that "the United States is not engaged in discussions regarding a swap of Mujahadin-e-Khalq members held by US forces in Iraq in return for al-Qaeda members held in Iran. The Washington Post reported on Sunday that the Jordanian monarch, who was in Washington last week on a private visit, is trying to revive a dialogue between the United States and Iran in a bid to prevent further destablization in the Middle East.
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