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Arabia
Binny to Yemen?
Osama Bin Laden is attempting to enter the Arabic Gulf state of Yemen by means of a sea vessel which his team hope to board along the coast of Pakistan. Al Jazeera were told by local villagers that two attempts to board vessels have failed due to increased security around the coastal region of Pakistan. According to sources, Bin Laden who in March entered into Pakistan escaped Pakistani and American troops after his location was successfully pin-pointed. Since then he has headed South and now is attempting to leave the region entirely to escape to the tribal region of Yemen.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 04/09/2004 1:57:49 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Full maritime blockade of Yemen with detailed inspection of all ocean going vessels by armed squads.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 2:12 Comments || Top||

#2  hes fucked if he trys to get to yemen by sea,lets hope he does eh,surly he could go to say indionesia or somewhere like that too. be real nice if we could collar him while he tries to slink away on a boat.
Posted by: Shep UK || 04/09/2004 6:21 Comments || Top||

#3  We have those 688-class subs for a reason . . . .
Posted by: Mike || 04/09/2004 8:12 Comments || Top||

#4  [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Disinformation. All he's doing is throwing out fodder.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 04/09/2004 10:10 Comments || Top||

#6  I beg to disagree. If Al Queda managed to dig his body out of the rubble they could transport him on several boats to Yemen. I'm certain they could get the majority of him there without a problem. Yeah, maybe a leg wouldn't make it, or the head might be grabbed by the Yanks, but I'm pretty sure the torso could be squeezed into the bilge and get by unseen.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/09/2004 14:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Yeman would be a good place to lead the jihad against the soddies and it would be almost as easy to hide out there are pakland.

However getting to Yeman would be tricky and it might demoralize the jihadis in pakland and afghanland
Posted by: mhw || 04/09/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#8  I see no major problem in smuggling the Shiek to Yemen.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/09/2004 16:44 Comments || Top||

#9  Hell, they can probably fold him up and mail him there.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/09/2004 23:06 Comments || Top||

#10  [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:19 Comments || Top||

#11 
All aboard for Diego Garcia!!! Watch your step, there, Mr. Laden.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:19 Comments || Top||


Al-Muqrin sez he's gonna drive the US out of Arabia
A video purportedly from Al Qaeda's chief of operations in Saudi Arabia vowed to Avenge™ the death of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan by expelling Americans from the Arabian Peninsula. The video, posted on an Islamic Web site viewed in Dubai on Thursday, shows a masked man identified in a subtitle as Abdulaziz al-Moqrin leaning on a semiautomatic rifle rolling his eyes and gnashing his teeth in a ferocious manner and with a rocket-propelled grenade launcher on his shoulder. In the background, superimposed text reads: "Get the infidels out of the Arab Peninsula."
"Yar! We don't need no infidels here! We don' like infidels! Hrarrr!"
"You Americans, you dared to implant your bases in the Arabian Peninsula. ... You dared to hit Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq from [bases in] the country of the two sanctuaries [Saudi Arabia]," the speaker says in Arabic in the 12-minute video. "For what you have done, we will be following you. So watch out as you will see nothing from now on but our attacks as the real battle has just started," he says.
"Are you scared yet? 'Cuz we're really, really ferocious!"
It was not possible to verify the video's authenticity, but the speaker used language similar to past statements attributed to Al Qaeda. It appeared on a Web site that posts Sawt al-Jihad, a periodical of Al Qaeda ideology that carries news and statements relating to the terror network's operations in Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 04/09/2004 1:29:39 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Funny, I thought we hit from a base in Qatar because our friends the Saudis didn't want us there this time.
Posted by: growler || 04/09/2004 10:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Yeah! An' I'm gonna tell my big brother, too! Then you'll be in trouble, boy, just you wait...
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||

#3  When will we get serious about the war on terror:

(1) tax incentives for decentralized solar power and laws demanding the right to have two way power meters. This provides power to the grid and lessons the value of power plants as targets (2) Biodesiel fuel. Its may not be good for sports cars but it can certainly run the SUVs at nearly the exact same speed and power and with all of the French Fries we eat we've could have tons for almost nothing.

This two step plan will take some time to kick in so we should begin it now. The tech is there, and once its going we eliminate one of the major sources of foreign policy problems in the world.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/09/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#4  question : haven't all US forces left SA by now ?
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 15:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Rup, hear hear. 100% concur.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#6  When is the United States going to quit diddling around and accept we're at war with a large percentage of the population of the world? This asswipe is one of them, and he's certainly TELLING us, loud and clear.

You don't run away from people who have declared themselved your enemies, and have vowed to destroy you. You crush them, one way or another. Frankly, the United States has failed to address the problem for thirty years. It's time we started. Ruprecht has suggested one way. There are several hundred others we can try. Turning our backs on the problem and ignoring it, which has been pretty much what we've done in the past, is no longer a viable option. We need to pull our head out of the sand and start solving the problem we're facing.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2004 15:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Cool. Must be a big car, huh?
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 17:48 Comments || Top||

#8  Re: Abdulaziz al-Moqrin and his threats

I've got a little list
I've got a little list
And they'll none of them be missed
They'll none of them be missed!

From Gilbert and Sullivan's, The Mikado

And that is what we need to do. People who make public threats have elected to put themselves in harm's way. After all, we take them at their word. We will not be loved, or even respected, but with these people we will be feared, and that is what is required to protect the American public.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/09/2004 22:15 Comments || Top||


Britain
Will Britain hold peace talks with Bin Laden?
Another one for the Short Attention Span Theater
Sorry, I just couldn’t resist this one. I needed to share a laugh for the day - please delete, if you feel the need!
A former member of Prime Minister Tony Blair’s cabinet called Thursday for Britain and the United States to begin talks with Osama bin Laden and described the current war on terrorism "completely counter-productive". Mo Mowlam, who was Northern Ireland secretary from 1997 to 1999, said the current American and British policy in the Middle East was acting as a "recruitment officer for the terrorists". Mowlam said Britain and the United States had to open a dialogue with their enemies. Asked if she could imagine al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden arriving at the negotiating table, she responded: "You have to do that. If you do not, you condemn large parts of the world to war for ever. "If you go in with guns and bombs, you act as a recruitment officer for the terrorists," she said.
This is the same as what Paul posted below. He left out the part about her being brain damaged...
Mowlam, who made clear she enjoyed her job in the Northern Ireland post and resented being pushed out, has criticised Blair repeatedly. She left formal politics at the 2001 election, declining to stand again for parliament. She confirmed during the interview that she had completely recovered from a brain tumour. After she left the cabinet in 1999 following a brief period as "cabinet enforcer" she accused Blair’s officials of malicious leaks to the press regarding her psychological health. A year ago the maverick former minister, who was extremely popular within the party during her years in office, advocated legalizing all drugs, including ecstasy, heroin and cocaine.
Really. We don't make this stuff up.
Posted by: Sherry || 04/09/2004 1:00:42 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Negotiate with people who threaten to burn captives ALIVE. Can you see Kerry holding a piece of paper saying "I have here the signature of herr osama"...
Posted by: Lucky || 04/09/2004 13:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Oppsss -- just "connected" with the title down below. Sorry
Posted by: Sherry || 04/09/2004 14:02 Comments || Top||


Red Ken embarrasses Blair with ’hang Saudi royals’ outburst
One of those WTF? moments.
Tony Blair faced renewed embarrassment at the hands of Ken Livingstone yesterday after the London mayor expressed a desire to see the royal family of Saudi Arabia hanged in public. Just three months after he was readmitted to the Labour Party, Mr Livingstone sparked controversy by appearing to call for the death of the country’s ruling al-Saud dynasty and their replacement by a "proper government". He also accused President George W Bush of corruption, urged Israelis to imprison their prime minister Ariel Sharon, and repeated his call for a 50 per cent higher-rate tax on incomes above £100,000 a year.
Even stopped clocks...
Posted by: Bulldog || 04/09/2004 3:53:35 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  expressed a desire to see the royal family of Saudi Arabia hanged in public

Just as he was making such a good start of things ...

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 4:16 Comments || Top||

#2  I thought this guy was against death penalty. Now I agree with his proposition but I want it extended to people who perceived money from a foreign power. In other words extended to traitors.
Posted by: JFM || 04/09/2004 5:13 Comments || Top||

#3  THe man finally says something I can agree with.
Posted by: Mike || 04/09/2004 6:12 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't understand why this would embarrass Blair? Were Blair's lips moving as Livingstone sat on his lap when Livingstone said it?
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 8:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Good to see the drunken old Bolshevik making sense for a change. A broken clock, etc.

A friend of mine suggests a more picturesque solution to the oil tick infestation: crucify the males of the Soddy royal family at 100 meter intervals along the Mecca-Medina highway.
Hey, it worked for the Romans.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 04/09/2004 10:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Embarrased that Red Ken is a Brit, I imagine. The old bolshies can be awfully embarassing when they start drooling and ranting.
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#7  There's like 5000 members of that family. I don't think even Home Depot has enough rope.
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 04/09/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Desert Blondie: There's like 5000 members of that family. I don't think even Home Depot has enough rope.

OK. Now you're getting carried away. Come to a Texas Home Depot sometime. (It's like - would you like it in lavender?)
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/09/2004 15:24 Comments || Top||

#9  Come to a Texas Home Depot sometime.
I'm not a Texan, but I'd be willing to bet most of them would prefer using a barbed wire necktie to a hemp one, especially for the Soddy "royals". Thirteen twists and a swift jerk, then dangle 'em beneath the I-10 Trinity river bridge...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2004 22:00 Comments || Top||

#10  If Home Depot doesn't have enough rope, buy the rest from Lowe's, Hader Hardware, Menard's, or Tractor Supply Company. Don't let a little thing like poor stock levels at one store keep us from hanging the bastards.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/09/2004 23:03 Comments || Top||

#11  You know how it goes with these Royals, though.

Some people wouldn't be happy if you hung them with a brand new rope.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/11/2004 0:05 Comments || Top||


’Open talks with bin Laden’
Former Northern Ireland Secretary Mo Mowlam has called on the British and American governments to open talks with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda around a negotiating table.
Hasn't been paying attention, has she?
The former Labour MP for Redcar said that by carrying out military campaigns in the Middle East, Britain and the US were acting as a "recruitment officer for the terrorists". In a television interview which will be broadcast on Easter Sunday, she described the current hardline approach to the war on terror as "completely counter-productive". Ms Mowlam told Tyne Tees TV’s Sunday Interview that Britain and America must open a dialogue with their enemies. Interviewer Tony Cartledge asked if she could imagine "al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden arriving at the negotiating table". She replied: "You have to do that. If you do not you condemn large parts of the world to war forever. Some people couldn’t conceive of Gerry Adams or Martin McGuinness getting to the table but they did."
As Mr. Boffo would say, "semi-finalist, most idiotic thing said by politician."
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 04/09/2004 1:14:23 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  *points to Israel vs. Palestine*

They tried. Look what that came to.
Posted by: Edward Yee || 04/09/2004 1:19 Comments || Top||

#2  OMFG. Did you hear that? That was the sound of my brain exploding. Quick, everybody go read DenBeste on diplomacy and negotiation and then come back and slap Ms. Mowlam upside the head. Gah.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/09/2004 1:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Peace in our time. Any takers?
Posted by: Rafael || 04/09/2004 1:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Ms. Mowlan may feel free to negotiate the cut of her burkha with bin Laden. Al Qaeda has yet to put on the table a single issue that can be negotiated.


Complete abolition of women's rights? Ummm ... no.

All women wearing the burkha and hahib? Ummm ... no.

All men wearing beards and praying five times daily? ... no.

All alcohol prohibited? ... Rhully big no.

Apostasy punishable by death? ... no.

Mandatory schooling using the Qu'ran? ... no.

Due process substituted with religious councils? ... no.

Sorry, Osama old pal, not a single thing there to negotiate. Feel free to yak it up with Ms. Mowlan, but all I've got for you is a bullet.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 1:55 Comments || Top||

#5  "I'm Osama bin Laden and I want to negotiate."
Posted by: True German Ally || 04/09/2004 6:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Makes me ashamed of my McManus heritage.
Posted by: Raptor || 04/09/2004 8:27 Comments || Top||

#7  don't feel bad Raptor, she was the Former Northern Ireland secretary after all.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 8:31 Comments || Top||

#8  I think it's a great idea. Bring him to the table and we'll ..um...talk!
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 8:35 Comments || Top||

#9  "Say hello to my leetle friend!"
Posted by: Dar || 04/09/2004 9:33 Comments || Top||

#10  ...asked if she could imagine "al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden arriving at the negotiating table". She replied: "You have to do that. If you do not you condemn large parts of the world to war forever. Some people couldn’t conceive of Gerry Adams or Martin McGuinness getting to the table but they did."

You have to do that. So where does Mumblin' Mo suggest we draw the line at people we have to negotiate with? Anyone who harbours a grudge, however irrational? Or do we only have to negotiate with violent people? How violent? Has it ever occurred to her that the reasoning that how violent someone is determines to how much we have to negotiate with them might perhaps encourage ever more violence, and actively discourage those with grievances from protesting peacefully? This isn't exactly sophisticated consideration cause-and-effect reasoning...

Can you imagine how Mo's sort of approach would work in a classroom?
Posted by: Bulldog || 04/09/2004 9:59 Comments || Top||

#11  maybe him just wanting an easter basket with chocolit fill eggs.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/09/2004 10:08 Comments || Top||

#12  By her logic, we should have allowed the Grand Masters of the KKK to visit with the President and legitimately discuss the benefits of lynchings and cross burnings. Stupid.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#13  oh my god! this is worse than talking with a fascist who is the rightful leader of a country...(maybe germany comes to mind). when will the west learn - these terrorists are dogs - they will never be satisfied!
Posted by: Dan || 04/09/2004 10:51 Comments || Top||

#14  Ah, but they left out the best part of the interview:
Ms Mowlam said she was ready to criticise the Government she once served in her new one-woman show, particularly about its policy on Iraq and the Middle East.

She's pimping her new show, bet it'll be a laugh riot.

She also confirmed on the programme that she has completely recovered from a brain tumour. She stepped down as an MP in 2001.

Better get a second opinion on that tumour, Mo.
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#15  Sure, an' it takes an Irishman to say somethin' that stupid.
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 11:13 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
North Korea says standoff with US at "brink of nuclear war"
The baby throws another rattle to the floor.
North Korea said Friday the standoff over its atomic ambitions was on the brink of nuclear war as US Vice President Dick Cheney headed to the region for talks with key Asian allies. The Stalinist state's official news agency accused Washington of "driving the military situation on the Korean peninsula to the brink of a nuclear war" with plans for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea.
Great wharks! AFP just called the NKors "Stalinist"! Ethel, my pills!
Cheney is expected in Tokyo on Saturday on the first leg of an Asian tour that also takes him to China and South Korea. North Korea described six-party talks held in Beijing in February as "fruitless," their harshest assessment so far of the meeting that brought together the two Koreas, China, Japan, Russia and the United States.
And accurate, since that's how they were supposed to turn out.
"The US demand that the DPRK (North Korea) scrap its nuclear programme first is the main obstacle in the way of solving the nuclear issue between the DPRK and the US," the Korean Central News Agency said in a commentary. "It is a well-known fact that the second round of the six-way talks held in Beijing last February proved fruitless due to the US demand that the DPRK dismantle its nuclear program first." A new round of six-party talks is expected before the end of June while working parties are supposed to be set up to resolve address contentious issues. South Korea's foreign ministry said all participating countries were ready for working level talks apart from North korea, which has yet to give the go ahead. In the commentary the North Korean news agency said Pyongyang had no choice but to boost its nuclear weapons drive in the face of US intransigence and its "moves to put the strategy of pre-emptive nuclear attack into practice."
Sure, whatever. I'm headed to the mall for a triple fudge ripple Sundae. Any of you NKors hungry?
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2004 3:42:50 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That the North Koreans keep threatening nuclear conflict means only one thing: The South Koreans may end up with unlimited parking north of Seoul in the near future.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 16:21 Comments || Top||

#2  North Korea described six-party talks held in Beijing in February as "fruitless,"

That would be last year's harvest, guys...
Posted by: Raj || 04/09/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Does anyone think Kim is taking a tantrum because no one is paying attention to him?
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 04/09/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Kimmi, Daddy be w/you in a moment sweetum's; disciplining your sister Sadr right now, umkay?
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Cheney doing this years commencement address at FSU. Maybe I can get tickets for M4D and his/her entourage/posse. I do warn that the Civic Centre floor is made out of once thriving hardwoods.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/09/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Kimmie is just trying to capitalize (interesting word for a communist, heh heh) on the uncertainty and instability (perceived or real) created by the Madrid boomings, and things going on in Iraq. Once again he is exploring the envelope. Nice try, Kimmie, watch out for coffin corner when you are exploring the envelope. I think that after VP Chaney's trip, we ought to have Rumsfeld tour the area, including SKor just to bring up Kimmie's BP.

BTW, there is a Presidential TFR (temp. flight restriction) in parts of the Anchorage area due to Chaney's flight coming into and going out of Elmendorf AFB today.

BTW
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/09/2004 17:24 Comments || Top||

#7  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: mhw TROLL || 04/09/2004 17:37 Comments || Top||

#8  "Cheney doing..."

Yikes! You're blowing your cover Shipman4doo!
Posted by: James A || 04/09/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||

#9  Answer to Bill Nelson:

Yep, that is exactly what is going on.
Posted by: Carl in N.H || 04/09/2004 17:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Kim is desperate to "FEED" his people. Maybe he thinks radiation will spur growth in the rice patty.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/09/2004 18:22 Comments || Top||

#11  How's that missile defense going Kimmy? Don't have one? Ohhhhh sorry!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Ever since this Fallujah/Sadr nastiness started up, I've been waiting for the NKORS to start foaming at the mouth. I'm actually surprised they waited this long.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 04/09/2004 20:32 Comments || Top||

#13  no doubt they expect a President K to send Jimmy C to help them out again --- this is yet another opportunity for Kerry to have a sister Souljah moment
Posted by: mhw || 04/09/2004 17:37 Comments || Top||


S. Korea to become second-largest military ally in Iraq
South Korea has decided to become a major contributor to the U.S.-led military effort to stabilize Iraq despite the recent abduction of Korean nationals by insurgents.
I think the abductions have backfired....
South Korea will deploy more than 3,700 soldiers in Iraq by August, officials said. They said the soldiers would be deployed in northern Iraq, either in Irbil or Suleimaniya. The commitment by Seoul will make South Korea the third largest contributor of military troops to Iraq. Britain and the United States have been the leading contributors. Officials said the first South Korean contingent will arrive in Iraq in June despite the abduction of South Korean nationals by Sh’ite insurgents, Middle East Newsline reported. Most of the Korean force will not be composed of combat units, officials said. Instead, the force will focus on logistics that can be used for reconstruction tasks in Iraq. "It is a mixture of logistics types," U.S. Army Lt. Col. Michael Finnegan, the South Korea country director in the Defense Department, said. "The unit will contain engineers, medics, truck drivers and other reconstruction skills. But the unit will also contain security and civil affairs personnel." So far, Korea has 500 soldiers deployed in Nasseriya south of Baghdad. Most of the troops are engineers and medical personnel and they will join the new force in the north. Officials said this was not South Korea’s first mission in the Middle East. South Korea has contributed forces to the United Nations peacekeeping mission in the disputed region of Western Sahara.
It would be nice if Japan (and Italy) does the same thing. Will probably stop all the abductions well.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/09/2004 2:29:30 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When I was in Vietnam the Korens came in and took over the area I was in, northern part of the country, and set up their base camp.

The Vietcong, in an uderstandable attempt to establish the proper pecking order attacked the Korens. It was kind a long firefight as fire fights go.

Afterword the Korens staked out, literally, the extent of their base camp area. One end of the stake was in the ground. On the other end of the stake was was the head of a Vietcong attacker.

To the best of my knowledge that camp was never attacked again.

I spent some time with those folks and really liked them.

I hope those boys do their daddies proud.
Posted by: Michael || 04/09/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#2  We trained w/ROK Marines. Good to go. No bs approach to training. Shiites/sunni's would do well to steer clear of pissing these guys off.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#3  If I believed in the Bush/Cheney/Halliburton/VastRightWing TakeOver-The-World-MasterPlan I would believe the S.Koreans were sending troops to Iraq so they could get practice calling live US air-support in preparation for next summers' illegal,unilateral attack on peaceful North Korea.
Seriously,S.Koreans look like they want some practical experience in rebuilding a country devestated by a dictator.
Posted by: Stephen || 04/09/2004 19:42 Comments || Top||

#4  oooooo good point, Stephen
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 19:52 Comments || Top||


Japan PM denounces kidnappers’ threat
Ananova - link may expire.
Japan’s prime minister Junichiro Koizumi has denounced terrorist threats to burn alive three hostages as "cowardly". And he has vowed troops will stay in Iraq despite tearful pleas from the captives’ families to bow to the gunmen’s demands.
Tough as it is for the families, they aren’t helping. Their kids went to Iraq of their own volition, and they were aware of the risks. Trying to weaken Japan’s resolve to stay in Iraq would have many other families finding themselves in the same position: losing loved ones. Koizumi needs to iterate this point clearly and deliberately. Never yield to terrorists.
"We want to do everything we can to see that he comes home," said Naoko Imai, whose 18-year-old son, Noriaki, was among the captives. "I want the government to pull the troops out." But as the drama unfolded and tested Japan’s commitment to the US-led coalition, there was little Koizumi could do except remain defiant. "We cannot give in to the cowardly threats of terrorists," he said. "Right now what we need to do is gather accurate information and bring them home safely." Television networks repeatedly aired dramatic video footage of the two aid workers Imai and Nahoko Takato, 34, and photojournalist Soichiro Koriyama, 32.

Koizumi called an emergency meeting of his Cabinet and created a task force to co-ordinate a response. He also ordered a senior foreign ministry official to co-ordinate rescue efforts from Jordan. The prime minister is expected to make a strong request for help from the United States when vice president Dick Cheney visits this weekend. Officials acknowledged, however, that they had few other options. Yasuo Fukuda, the Cabinet’s chief spokesman and head of the emergency task force, confirmed the government had "absolutely no contact" with the hostage-takers, a previously unknown group calling itself the "Mujahideen Squadrons". He stressed that accepting the withdrawal demand was not under consideration.
Posted by: Bulldog || 04/09/2004 9:23:40 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oops! Don't know how I missed Steve White's post. Binnit willya, someone? Thanks.
Posted by: Bulldog || 04/09/2004 9:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Dispatch the Ninjas!
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||



Japan PM Says No Plan to Pull Troops from Iraq
Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi said on Friday that Japan had no plan to withdraw its troops from Iraq despite the kidnapping of three Japanese civilians there and a threat to kill them if Japan's troops were not pulled out. He said the most important thing was to ensure the safety of the three kidnapped Japanese and for them to be rescued.
And then introduce Sadr to the concept of "bushido".
A previously unknown Iraqi group released a video of the hostages on Thursday and vowed to "burn them alive" if Japanese troops did not leave Iraq within three days. Nudged by the United States, Japan has sent about 550 ground troops to Samawa in southern Iraq on a non-combat mission to help rebuild the country. Public opinion is sharply divided on the deployment, which critics say violates the pacifist constitution, and casualties could undermine support for the government ahead of Upper House elections in July.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2004 12:18:29 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There should be a massive showing of International support for Japan's courageous decision to defy these terrorists. Well, except maybe, in Spain.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 0:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Did anyone see the video of the hostages? It's the type of thing that should be shown all over the world just to show what kind of terrorists we are dealing with. Did American media show this video?
Posted by: Rafael || 04/09/2004 0:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Rafael, yes, saw it on MS-NBC a couple hours ago. Definitely raises one's blood pressure.

Zen is right, and I hope the civilized world will stand with Japan on this.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2004 0:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Every Nipponese a warrior at heart. But are the youth steeled to what that means. Those guys are toast, say a prayer.

It is my opinion that those that are behind this terrible struggle, jihadi Cent Com, want a holy war against Islam and will do everything to make it so.
Posted by: Lucky || 04/09/2004 0:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Did anyone else hear that one of the Japanese "journalists" being held is a "peace activist"? I heard that on one broadcast but haven't gotten a second source.

CNN had an obligatory "man-in-the-street" interview in Tokyo which was, of course, "the US got us into this, damn them!" but if the real Japan rears its head: Look out, Sadr!
Posted by: JDB || 04/09/2004 1:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Lucky, I'm afraid that's not the case. Rare is the militant Japanese youth you will find ...
Posted by: Edward Yee || 04/09/2004 1:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Did anyone else hear that one of the Japanese "journalists" being held is a "peace activist"?

Maybe they'll torch peacenik san first and show the world just exactly what conciliation buys you at Terrorists R Us. Convert to Pesetas per the usual exchange rate.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 1:32 Comments || Top||


#9  Interesting rumor on LGF.
Posted by: someone || 04/09/2004 10:34 Comments || Top||

#10  Send in the Samurai. Send in the Ninjas. Send in the mean-tempered little guys. Let 'em start in Fallujah, then sweep up in Najaf. Al-Sadr will be startled when divine winds blow his pajamas off.
Posted by: Zpaz || 04/09/2004 12:05 Comments || Top||

#11  "Lots of folks are raising the possibility that the Japanese hostages are faking it. One of them is an anti-war activist, another is an NGO type and the third is a reporter. I really hope that this is a hoax because, duh, I don't want to see innocent folks get burned alive. It would also highlight what tools Al Jazeera are of terrorists and what tools some anti-war activists are in general. If this is a hoax these guys should obviously go to jail for a very long time. But I tend to doubt it is a fabrication. The joke will certainly be on these guys at the end of three days if it is, because there will be a lot of terrorist types who will realize they have a lot to lose if they don't go through with it, which is all the more reason to salute the resolve of the Japanese government. "

--Jonah Goldberg, "The Corner," National Review Online
Posted by: Mike || 04/09/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#12  "Beware the Bushi in his aroused state."
-- Don't remember Who, But He Knew A Thing or Two
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 13:40 Comments || Top||


Europe
UK Enacts Law to Prosecute Moslems Who Take Daughters Abroad for Female Circumcision
People who take their daughters abroad to undergo genital mutilation could be jailed for up to 14 years from today. The Female Genital Mutilation Act, which came into force recently, reinforces existing legislation and closes a loophole by making it unlawful to take girls abroad for genital mutilation whether or not it is legal elsewhere. The maximum sentence has been increased from 5 to 14 years in jail. It is estimated that 74,000 women in the UK have undergone the procedure. A further 7,000 girls under the age of 16 are at risk. Women who have undergone some forms of genital mutilation are twice as likely to die in childbirth as those who have not. They are also four times more likely to give birth to a stillborn child.

Home Secretary David Blanket said no cultural, medical or other reason can justify a practice that causes so much pain and suffering. "Regardless of cultural background, it is completely unacceptable and should be illegal wherever it takes place," he said. The Government is backing the legislation with £30,000 of funding. The investment will support an information campaign amongst the practising communities. An estimated 135 million of the world’s girls and women have undergone genital mutilation. It has been illegal in the UK since 1985. Ann Clywd MP introduced the Female Genital Mutilation Bill as a private member’s bill in December 2002, which the Government gave its strong backing.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/09/2004 11:15:44 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Home Secretary David Blanket said no cultural, medical or other reason can justify a practice that causes so much pain and suffering. "Regardless of cultural background, it is completely unacceptable and should be illegal wherever it takes place," he said.

About effing time. Until it is unanimously decried by all Moslems, Islam will remain properly marginalized by any support of genital mutilation.

All children subjected to this travesty should be separated from their birth parents instantly and forever.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/10/2004 1:59 Comments || Top||

#2  "Until it is unanimously decried by all Moslems..."

I thought there was an outcry of moderation by Muslims and you were their champion. Why just the other day you provided so much text to that effect that I was so tempted to throw away several years of first-hand knowledge that had led me to a different conclusion.
Posted by: .com || 04/10/2004 2:34 Comments || Top||

#3  .com, in case you're unclear on the subject, I've repeatedly mentioned how the Moslem community has some way to go in making even more vocal pronouncements against terrorism.

This in no ways means that they do not voice such criticisms, as you seem to think (which was the point I tried to get through to you), just that there will be significant backlash arising from any failure to increase their future protests.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/10/2004 22:32 Comments || Top||


Forty hurt in Bulgaria gas attack accident
At least 40 people have been hurt, some seriously, in a poison gas attack in the Bulgarian capital. A bomb containing a toxic chloride gas was thrown into a visitors’ area in a Sofia traffic police office, the Interior Ministry said. At least one person was said to be in a life-threatening condition and four others were critically ill. Police said a suspect was held two hours after the attack, but there was no word on possible motive.

Followup... No big thing...
At least 40 people were injured, some seriously, after a man accidentally dropped a tear gas device in a police station in the Bulgarian capital. The man was in a visitors' area in a Sofia traffic police office when the "unpremeditated accident" happened, the Interior Ministry said. At least four people, including a police officer, were reported to be seriously ill from gas inhalation. The man, described as a 51-year-old butcher, was later arrested. The device, described as a self-defence teargas spray, was "freely available in shops", Interior Ministry official Boiko Borissov told AFP news agency.
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CIA warns of al-Qaeda attack on Paris rail network
Paris city rail traffic was temporarily brought to a halt and five stations evacuated evening following a CIA alert of a possible bomb attack, police said. The CIA had warned French domestic counter-intelligence of a threat to carry out an attack Thursday on either the Paris suburban rail network or the subway, they said. Traffic was temporarily halted on the A line of the Paris regional suburban rail network, the RER, which also runs through the city centre. Police evacuated the stations after the CIA informed the French of an anonymous message it had received from Madrid warning of a possible attack between 1830 and 1930 GMT. The RER stations affected included one at the Gare de Lyon mainline rail station. Police later announced they had ended the state of alert at 9:30 pm after an interruption of about one hour and a half. "Following systematic searches of stations on RER A line, the police prefecture has requested the RATP (Paris region transport authority) to resume normal traffic," a police spokesman said.

Police said the warning to the CIA came in an anonymous e-mail message from Madrid, where massive bomb attacks at rail stations left 191 people dead on March 11. A US government official confirmed Washington had passed on uncorroborated information to France concerning the threat of an attack. "The US government did pass some uncorroborated information to the French," the official told AFP. He said the information was transmitted "due to time sensitivity," despite the fact that "it wasn't necessarily verifiable at the time." He did not specify the source of the information or the precise time it was given. Paris police said Thursday's state of alert caused disruption to traffic during the rush hour. But there was no panic during a period of the day when some 40,000 commuters were using the A line running acros Paris from east to west and serving major business districts such as La Defense and the Champs-Elysees, as well as Chatelet-Les Halles, the capital's biggest urban communications hub.
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#1  hmmm...looks like Chirac is behind on his payments.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 8:37 Comments || Top||

#2  oh no, now France must remove its troops from, uh somewhere....
Posted by: flash91 || 04/09/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda video found in apartment rubble
A videotape found in an apartment where suspected terrorists blew themselves up last weekend gives Spain a deadline to withdraw its troops from Iraq and Afghanistan or face more bloodshed at home, the interior ministry said. In the video, three heavily armed people read a statement in the name of the Al Mufti Brigades and Ansar al-Qaeda giving Spain one week to "leave Muslim lands immediately," authorities said. A copy of the text was sent by the interior ministry to The Associated Press on Thursday. "Should you not do this within the space of a week, starting today, we will continue our Jihad until martyrdom," it added.
Got it a bit early, did they?
"You know that you are not safe, and you know that Bush and his administration will bring only destruction. We will kill you anywhere and in any manner," it read. It was not clear when the video had been filmed or when the deadline would begin. Police said they don't rule out that the video was filmed by some of the suspected terrorists before their collective suicide during a police raid last Saturday. An interior ministry spokesman said the video was found in the rubble of the apartment during recent searches. He added that it was damaged in the explosion and had to be minutely analyzed by police forensic scientists. It has been sent to the National Court as evidence.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 04/09/2004 1:30:51 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hmmmm. Isn't al Andalus considered Muslim land? OK Zappy, get yo' ass out of the Iberian peninsula.
Posted by: VRWconspiracy || 04/09/2004 4:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Gee, funny you should mention that, VRW. Seems like ther is another part of the tape that is not being widely reported:

"You know about Spain's crusade against Muslims, the expulsion from Al Andalus and the tribunals of the Inquisition, not that long ago," the three men said in the video, vowing a "jihad" or holy war.
The Moors occupied parts of Spain, or Al Andalus, for nearly 800 years before the Catholic monarchs, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, reconquered Granada in 1492. The Christians reneged on a promise to respect Islam and 10 years later gave Muslims the choice of conversion or emigration. Spain now has a Moroccan community of around half a million, many of them illegal immigrants drawn by the hope of work in this prosperous European Union country.
The men in the video identified themselves as members of a group called "The Al Mufti and Ansar al-Qaeda Brigades." They said their aim was to force Spanish troops "to leave the land of the Muslims immediately."


I'm betting that they include Al Andalus as part of the land of the Muslims. I'd like to see the entire transcript of that tape.
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Ah, here's another tidbit:
The bombers said they were ready to achieve "martyrdom in the land of Tarek Ben Ziyad" - a reference to the Moorish leader who, early in the eighth century, led an invasion of Spain that heralded the start of seven centuries of Muslim presence in the country.

There's more here than the Spanish government is admitting publicly.
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 9:41 Comments || Top||


Antwerp’s diamond traders fear terror attacks
Sorry, Belgium, but calling America names may not keep you safe...
Businesses in Antwerp’s famous diamond traders’ district fear they could soon be targeted by an Islamic fundamentalist terror attack, the Belgian press reported on Thursday. The majority of Antwerp’s diamond traders are Jewish. They say have been particularly concerned since the European Arab League (EAL) warned they could be considered a terrorist target. "Ever since the EAL made its statements, we have obviously been asking ourselves questions," diamond industry spokesman Peter Meeus told La Libre Belgique. "The quarter was already targeted in 1981, when terrorists attacked a Portuguese synagogue," he added. Meeus wants the Belgian government to step up even further the already tight security measures in place in the diamond sellers quarter, which is near to Antwerp’s main station. The EAL insisted that it was not trying to threaten Antwerp’s diamond traders but warn them. "We want to warn Antwerp’s Jewish community in its entirety to be on its guard. The community’s support for Israel is no secret," Ahmed Azzuz, head of the EAL in Belgium told La Libre Belgique. "It could therefore be targeted because of its support for Zionism, in the same way that innocent people in Spain paid for their leaders’ pro-American policies during the war in Iraq. "We are not anti-Semitic. It is recent events that have led us to sound the alarm bell," he added.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/09/2004 1:02:35 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The odious organization's name is AEL, Arab European League (first things first, I suppose). Its founder is a certain Abu Jahjah, who has already been mentioned on Rantburg some time ago. Abu Jahjah is Lebanese and belonged to Hezbollah before he came to Belgium and acquired Belgian citizenship through marriage (he divorced immediately thereafter). His right hand man Ahmed Azzuz is a piece of work too. He frequently issues dead threats against those he dislikes, which is basically everybody, except islamofascists goons like him.

Posted by: Peter || 04/09/2004 7:43 Comments || Top||

#2  [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||

#3  tide is changing here.. There's a new proposition to withdraw citizenship once it's clear the marriage was fake.. Catching up, but slowly..

On JahJah, he wasn't a Hezbollah member.. He alledged he was one, but that was a blatant lie.. He tried to fool asylum instances here, but it didn't work..
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 16:49 Comments || Top||

#4  [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||

#5 
acquired Belgian citizenship through marriage (he divorced immediately thereafter)

Is there anybody at all in Europe or the USA who thinks this stupidly casual granting of citizenship to foreign terrorists is a good idea?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||


Bosnian link to Madrid bomb suspect
Sanel Sjekirica, one of the Islamic terrorists sought by Spanish authorities, was a student at the University of Oviedo in Asturias, northern Spain. He completed a course in architecture and computer technology, and he last attended his course on 20 November. The 23-year-old is wanted along with Amer El Aziz and Rabei Osman Ahmed in connection with the 11 March massacre. According to sources from the Ministry of the Interior, Sjekirica was also being watched by security services before the Madrid bombings. Aziz has been linked to the 11 September attacks in the United States and was accused of involvement by Judge Baltazar Garzon. Meanwhile, authorities in Bosnia are working with Spanish police to see if Sjekirica is of Bosnian origin. According to AFP news agency, the head of the Interpol in Bosnia, Brane Pecanac, said they were treating this as an urgent case and hoped to have results soon. It also emerged that the ’mastermind’ behind the 11 March attacks Serhane Ben Abdeljamid Fakhet, alias the Tunisian, had his studies paid for by the Spanish authorities for the past four years as part of an international educational programme.
It was just his little way of sying "thank you."
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/09/2004 12:48:20 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
had his studies paid for by the Spanish authorities for the past four years

Why?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/09/2004 8:39 Comments || Top||

#2  "Why?"

UC Berkeley was full?
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||


U.S. warning halts Paris trains
Follow-up, EFL.
Police in Paris halted traffic on a commuter train line for about an hour Thursday evening after the United States warned French officials of a possible bomb attack, police said. Authorities found nothing suspicious and lifted the alert around 9:30 p.m. The RER-A line was stopped and passengers were evacuated while officials conducted inspections of the rails and stations, authorities said. Police headquarters in Paris said the CIA alerted it to the threat of a bomb attack directed at the underground train lines or the Metro subway system. In Washington, an administration source said the U.S. government told the French government about a nonspecific but credible threat of a bomb attack. The source did not know if the information was corroborated but did say it came in within the past several days and was collected internationally. A senior U.S. official said the American government passed on to French authorities information of "uncertain reliability" regarding a threat. The United States could not verify the information but informed France because "it was time sensitive," the official said. The French response to the information was based on what the French government felt was necessary, the U.S. official said.
Did the response include the words, "thank you"?
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2004 12:24:01 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Rer A is an obviuos traget for terror since it is the line with the heaviest traffic in Paris. I travel in that line every day. Gives spice to life.
Posted by: JFM || 04/09/2004 1:38 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Clinton/Kennedy/Kerry - All Sign Iraqi Liberation Act - in 1998!
Kerry and Kennedy both signed HR.4655 which is as follows:
Today I am signing into law H.R. 4655, the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998." This Act makes clear that it is the sense of the Congress that the United States should support those elements of the Iraqi opposition that advocate a very different future for Iraq than the bitter reality of internal repression and external aggression that the current regime in Baghdad now offers.

Let me be clear on what the U.S. objectives are: The United States wants Iraq to rejoin the family of nations as a freedom-loving and law-abiding member. This is in our interest and that of our allies within the region.

The United States favors an Iraq that offers its people freedom at home. I categorically reject arguments that this is unattainable due to Iraq’s history or its ethnic or sectarian make-up. Iraqis deserve and desire freedom like everyone else. The United States looks forward to a democratically supported regime that would permit us to enter into a dialogue leading to the reintegration of Iraq into normal international life.

My Administration has pursued, and will continue to pursue, these objectives through active application of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions. The evidence is overwhelming that such changes will not happen under the current Iraq leadership.

In the meantime, while the United States continues to look to the Security Council’s efforts to keep the current regime’s behavior in check, we look forward to new leadership in Iraq that has the support of the Iraqi people. The United States is providing support to opposition groups from all sectors of the Iraqi community that could lead to a popularly supported government.

On October 21, 1998, I signed into law the Omnibus Consolidated and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 1999, which made $8 million available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition. This assistance is intended to help the democratic opposition unify, work together more effectively, and articulate the aspirations of the Iraqi people for a pluralistic, participatory political system that will include all of Iraq’s diverse ethnic and religious groups. As required by the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for FY 1998 (Public Law 105-174), the Department of State submitted a report to the Congress on plans to establish a program to support the democratic opposition. My Administration, as required by that statute, has also begun to implement a program to compile information regarding allegations of genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes by Iraq’s current leaders as a step towards bringing to justice those directly responsible for such acts.

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 provides additional, discretionary authorities under which my Administration can act to further the objectives I outlined above. There are, of course, other important elements of U.S. policy. These include the maintenance of U.N. Security Council support efforts to eliminate Iraq’s weapons and missile programs and economic sanctions that continue to deny the regime the means to reconstitute those threats to international peace and security. United States support for the Iraqi opposition will be carried out consistent with those policy objectives as well. Similarly, U.S. support must be attuned to what the opposition can effectively make use of as it develops over time. With those observations, I sign H.R. 4655 into law.

WILLIAM J. CLINTON

THE WHITE HOUSE,

October 31, 1998.
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Two Paintball Jihadists Sentenced to 15 and 20 Years; Two Others Face Mandatory 35 and 90 Years
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/09/2004 23:07 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and Ramzi Yousef (Part 9)
I wrote this. Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8

In September 1994, Philippine police arrested six members of the Abu Sayyaf Group. The subsequent interrogations provided several leads toward several conspirators in Manila. One was Tareq Kaved Rana, a Pakistani who owned a house in Parañaque, a Manila suburb. (Abuza, Militant Islam in Southeast Asia, page 102; Ressa, Seeds of Terror, page 33).

At the end of November, Yousef’s group exploded a bomb in Cebu City, and on December 1 the group exploded a bomb in a Manila movie theater. On December 11, Yousef planted a bomb on an airplane while flying from Manila to Cebu City. The bomb exploded inside the plane after it took off again. (Terry Nichols had arrived in Cebu City on November 23.)

At about that same time, the Philippine Presidential Security Group (PSG) was tipped off that some Middle Easterners would try to assassinate the Pope, who was scheduled to visit on January 15. In connection with this tip, the PSG focused particular attention on Rana. Yousef sometimes stayed in Rana’s house during this period. While the house was under PSG surveillance, it burned down. The PSG deduced that the fire occurred accidentally while Yousef was manufacturing bombs there. (I don’t know the dates of the fire or of the PSG’s deduction.) In late December, Yousef called Murad in Dubai and convinced him to move to Manila. (Seeds of Terror, pages 28-33).

Murad arrived in Manila on December 26 and moved in with Yousef in a sixth-floor apartment in a six-floor apartment building. Yousef’s first assignment for Murad was to help plan for someone to crash a crop-dusting airplane into the Pope’s motorcade during an upcoming visit.

On January 6, 1995, the Philippine police broke up Yousef’s bomb-making operation in the apartment. The police started a fire in order to set off the building’s alarms, thereby forcing everyone to evacuate the building. During the evacuation, the police searched the apartment. (Gerald Posner, Why America Slept, page 78 footnote). Since the search of the apartment was illegal, the Philippine government concocted an incredible false story about a clever policewoman who looked into the apartment after the firemen had left and found a well-equipped bomb-making factory that the firemen had failed to notice. (This yarn is recounted with many fanciful details in Seeds of Terror, pages 32-38.)

Murad was arrested as he came back into the building, but Yousef managed to escape. Murad was interrogated by the PSG for two days, but refused to talk. Then he was turned over to the Philippine Special Operations Group and immediately began singing like a bird. He revealed that he and Yousef had been involved in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. As soon as Yousef’s fingerprints in Apartment #603 were identified, Murad was turned over to the FBI, although he remained in Philippine custody for three months. (Seeds of Terror, pages 38-40.)

Wali Khan Amin Shah, another member of Yousef’s cell, was arrested on January 11 but escaped two days later. According to a PSG colonel who was involved in breaking up the cell, Shah perhaps was allowed to escape so that he would lead them to Yousef or other associates. The PSG already knew that Yousef was now in Kuala Lampur because of intercepted phone conversations between Yousef and his Philippine girlfriend. (Militant Islam in Southeast Asia, pages 107-108.)

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On January 14, Terry Nichols, still in the Philippines, phoned his ex-wife Lana Padilla in Las Vegas. He informed her that he had decided to return to the United States immediately and asked her to pick him up at the Las Vegas airport two days later. Nichols’ current wife Marife had agreed to a compromise in which she would finish her classes and then join him in the United States in about eight weeks. Although Nichols had no job or residence or obligations in the United States, he did not want to extend his visa or ticket so that he could stay with her for those eight weeks and help her move. He had to leave the Philippines right then.

On January 15 the Pope arrived in Manila.

Nichols returned to Las Vegas on January 16 and traveled to Kansas on January 18. In the following weeks he began developing a new business. Rather than manufacturing and selling bomb-making kits, he would manufacture and sell boxes that militia groups could use for packing their own home-made meals-ready-to-eat. In mid-February he bought a house in Herington, Kansas, paying $28,000.

On March 11, McVeigh furiously told Michael Fortier that Nichols had decided to stop helping to blow up the Oklahoma City federal building. Fortier declined to help too. Shortly before Marife arrived on March 17, Nichols told his ex-wife Lana that he and McVeigh "are going to go our separate ways, and I’m going to do the [gun] shows myself." (Hamm, Apocalypse in Oklahoma, pages 193-195.) McVeigh still intended to blow up the Oklahoma City federal building on April 19 and now needed someone else to help him, since Nichols and Fortier refused.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/09/2004 9:53:10 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mike, you are an excellent researcher...have you been in touch with Jayne Davis?
Posted by: Anonymous4106 || 04/09/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Rafsanjani Praises Sadr’s Shi’ite Uprising
Iran’s influential former president, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, on Friday hailed the Shi’ite Muslim militia of firebrand cleric Moqtada al-Sadr as "heroic" for rising up against the U.S. occupation in Iraq. Rafsanjani told worshippers at Friday prayers in Tehran that a distinction should be drawn between Shi’ite fighters, who have battled U.S.-led troops across southern Iraq this week, and insurrectionist supporters of Saddam Hussein’s Ba’ath party he described as "terrorists."

"Contrary to these terrorist groups in Iraq, there are powerful bodies which contribute to the security of that nation...among them is the Mehdi Army, made up of enthusiastic, heroic young people," he told the crowd. But Iran’s top dissident cleric, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, criticized the Medhi Army, which follow Sadr. Sadr met Rafsanjani in Iran last June at a memorial service for the spiritual father of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. Rafsanjani, a mid-ranking cleric, now heads a powerful arbitration body called the Expediency Council, which can have a final say over legislation. In remarks broadcast live on state radio, Rafsanjani also praised the Badr Corps, a Shi’ite fighting force of several thousand nurtured in Iran. The Corps is the fighting wing of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq that for many years directed its opposition to Saddam from Tehran. The United States has accused Iran, which is also predominantly Shi’ite, of fomenting anti-U.S. sentiment among Iraq’s Shi’ite majority.

But in the seminary city of Qom, Iran’s main seat of religious learning, dissident cleric Montazeri dismissed Sadr’s Mehdi Army. "Although the supporters of Moqtada al-Sadr have chosen the name Mehdi Army for themselves, Imam Mehdi would never be content to initiate disunity, division and factionalism in his name," he said in comments faxed to Reuters. Montazeri’s office said the remarks were made in an interview with Time magazine. Imam Mehdi was the 12th of the Shi’ite Imams, descendants of the prophet Mohammad. Shi’ites await Imam Mehdi’s second coming after he disappeared in the Iraqi city of Samarra in the ninth century. Montazeri threw his weight behind Iraq’s Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani who has called on the Iraqi people to support state institutions and public order. "It is rational that under Ayatollah Sistani’s direction and through a union of Shi’ites, Sunnis and Kurds who are all Muslims, a stable government be established in Iraq," he said. Montazeri, one of the very few clerics to become a grand ayatollah, was once primed to succeed Khomeini as supreme leader of Iran. Khomeini called him "the fruit of my life." But Montazeri was sidelined in 1988 for criticising the treatment of political prisoners and placed under house arrest in 1997 for questioning the religious credentials of Khomeini’s successor and current supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Montazeri was freed last year.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 1:07:58 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  like this is some big secret....iran should of been handled after the kobar strike....screw this legal bullshit tieing the hands of any admin..strike and strike hare...i would say with nukes..take out tehran then see if they want to talk about stopping thier bullshit!
Posted by: Dan || 04/09/2004 15:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Montazeri, one of the very few clerics to become a grand ayatollah, was once primed to succeed Khomeini as supreme leader of Iran. Khomeini called him "the fruit of my life." But Montazeri was sidelined in 1988 for criticising the treatment of political prisoners and placed under house arrest in 1997 for questioning the religious credentials of Khomeini’s successor and current supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Poor rube has a concience. So much for the Ayatollah big leagues.
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Sometimes I wonder what made Saddam so ruthless, but then I see the Iranians are the worst kind of neighbors to have. If they secretly plan revolution in Iraq, we should fuel revolution in Iran, but hit them deep where they can feel it.
Posted by: CobraCommander || 04/09/2004 19:04 Comments || Top||

#4  something from a Clancy novel? Calling John Clark....
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 19:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Don't you mean Richard Clarke?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 04/09/2004 19:20 Comments || Top||

#6  well, the exploits of both are fictional, but I meant John Clark
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 19:42 Comments || Top||

#7  Frank, LMAO.
Posted by: Matt || 04/09/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Fugitive From Honor-Killing Family Rescued by Lawyer Group in Pakistan
The Karachi-based NGO, Lawyers for Human Rights and Legal Aid (LHRLA), strongly condemn the actions taken by the husband and family of Nur Shar. Nur Khatoon says she was married against her wishes to Sharafdin Shar who subjected her to acts of torture and violence, including nail pulling and acid burning. However, her own family members and local tribesmen have designated her “Kari” and called for her death immediately. The tribesmen declared that she was “dishonoring” them by living with a man outside the bounds of marriage. She appealed for a case to be registered against the perpetrators of these threats and accusations, but immediate Governmental response was minimal.

Fortunately, she has now been rescued and removed to the temporary custody of District Nazim, Nafisa Shah. Zia Ahmed Awan, President of LHRLA, charges that the Government should have been swifter in taking action in this case and he pleads to the Supreme Court to intervene in all Karo-Kari cases, including the present situation. He condemns the jirga system that allows this evil practice to flourish and thrive in the 21st century. He further states that the husband and family tribesmen involved should be arrested and immediately brought to justice.

LHRLA’s umbrella organization, Madadgaar has been monitoring the press for reports on Karo-Kari cases and other forms of abuse and violence meted out to women nationwide. Last year, Madadgaar found that 823 women, including 20 minors, became the victims of the barbaric custom in Pakistan. The cases documented by Madadgaar reveal that all the male relatives of a woman are capable of perpetrating this custom. In 2002, in 346 cases the perpetrator of the crime was the husband, in 92 the in-laws, in 183 the brother, in 46 the father and in 32 the son of the woman.

LHRLA notes that the actual figures of female murder in the name of Karo-Kari are much higher, as these figures represent a mere fraction of the reality because these are limited cases which are brought before the attention of the public by the media. Numerous cases remain unreported and the rampant victimization of women continues to escalate annually. This practice must come to an immediate end and the perpetrators of the crime be penalized for murder, if women are to be afforded equal protection and dignity under Pakistan’s national laws and in accordance with international norms and Conventions to which the State is a signatory.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/09/2004 11:21:16 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He condemns the jirga system that allows this evil practice to flourish and thrive in the 21st century.

As in, loya jirga? Shuckey darn, you mean we've been wrong all along in post stone-age Afghanistan?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/10/2004 1:53 Comments || Top||

#2  No, Mr. I-have-a-scintilla-of-knowledge.
"Jirga" is tribal dialect for council in that part of the world.
A "loya jirga" is the name for Afghan grand council.
Not the same thing, Monsieur cul-chapeau.
Posted by: Jen || 04/10/2004 3:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Okay, Jen, thank you for clearing this up. I was stricken with worry that Afghanistan's Loya Jirga and their threats of violence against women,

"During this morning's plenary session, a female delegate spoke out against what she described as the domination of the process by strong political figures whom she called "criminals". The Chairman prevented the woman from continuing to speak and some of the delegates began screaming abuse at her.

Some present
[at the Loya Jirga] were heard to say that they would kill the woman while others intervened to protect her."
EMPHASIS ADDED

was anything even remotely like that Pakistani jirga which ordered the gang rape of Mukhtaran Bibi.

"A judge in an anti-terrorism court trial in Dera Ghazi Khan convicted four of the men of raping 30-year-old Mukhtaran Bibi, said prosecuting attorney Malik Ramzan Joya.

Two other men were convicted of abetting the rape. They were part of a 10-person tribal council that authorized the rape. The other eight members were acquitted."


EMPHASIS ADDED

Or are you now going to try and tell me that a panchayat and a jirga are two completely different things?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/10/2004 22:19 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
$80 million and rising, that’s what Iran’s spending on Muqty
Via LGF and MEMRI:
A source in the Quds Army of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard revealed to Al-Sharq Al-Awsat information relating to the construction of three camps and training centers on the Iranian-Iraqi borders to train elements of the “Mehdi Army” founded by Moqtada Al-Sadr. The source estimated that about 800-1,200 young supporters of Al-Sadr have received military training including guerilla warfare, the production of bombs and explosives, the use of small arms, reconnoitering and espionage. The three camps were located in Qasr Shireen, ‘Ilam, and Hamid, bordering southern Iraq which is inhabited largely by Shi’a Muslims.

The newspaper also reported that the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad has recently distributed 400 satellite phones to supporters of Al-Sadr and to clerics and students at the A’thamiyya district of Baghdad, Al-Sadr City, and the holy city of Najaf, all of which are inhabited predominantly by Shi’a Muslims. The Iranian source, known in Iraq as “Abu Hayder” confirmed that the intelligence service of the Revolutionary Guard has introduced to the Shi’a cities radio and TV broadcasting facilities which are used by Al-Sadr and his supporters. During his recent visit to Iran, Al-Sadr met with Hashemi Rafsanjani, head of the Expediency Council as well as the head of the revolutionary guard intelligence, Murtadha Radhai, and the commander of the Al-Quds Army responsible for Iraqi affairs, Brig. General Qassim Suleimani and other government and religious leaders. The source estimated the financial support to Al-Sadr in recent months have exceeded $80 million, in addition to the cost of training, equipment and clothing of his supporters.
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Iraqi allies warn US over Falluja
From BBC (aka the ’You are all going to DIEEE!’ network) so put on your old boots cause you are liable to step in it.
Members of Iraq’s US-appointed governing council have condemned the US military operation in Falluja after four days of bitter fighting. One member described the operation as "genocide" after doctors in the Sunni Muslim city of 300,000 reported 450 deaths and 1,000 injured this week.
No puppies or bunnies!
450 isn't a very spectacular genocide, especially when most of them were waving guns...
The fugitive leader of the country’s parallel Shia unrest has demanded the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
He's been demanding that for the past year, hasn't he?
The US has declared a truce in Falluja but fighting continued as night fell. Gunfire and mortar blasts echoed across the city west of Baghdad and a marine officer who spoke to AFP news agency on condition of anonymity predicted it would "get worse before it gets better". Another officer, Maj Pete Farnum, said his men had tried to keep the noon (0800 GMT) truce on Friday but attacks by militants had not eased. "We went into pause but the enemy kept attacking us on the western side of the city," he said. "We had to defend ourselves so we asked for permission to return to offensive operation. This was granted."
More deaders added to the "genocide." Happens every hudna, doesn't it?
However, the ferocity of the battle for the city appeared to have eased since the US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, announced the 24-hour truce to allow for peace talks. US troops are said to be allowing women and children to leave the city but are stopping men as they search for suspects in the killing and horrific mutilation of four American security guards in Falluja at the end of March.
Behold the power of film...
Ghazi Ajil al-Yawer, a Sunni Muslim member of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC), said he was ready to resign if the US did not seek a peaceful solution to the crisis in Falluja.
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
"How can a superpower like the US put itself in a state of war with a small city like Falluja? This is genocide," he told AFP news agency on Friday, the first anniversary of the fall of Saddam Hussein.
But what the fun-loving residents of Falluja did to the contractors was ok right?
Fellow IGC member Adnan Pachachi said the Falluja offensive was "illegal and totally unacceptable" whilst Kurdish IGC member Mahmoud Uthman described US policy as counter-productive.
Not as counterproductive as the mutilations...
The Iraqi interim Human Rights Minister, Abdel Basit Turki, and a member of the Iraqi Governing Council’s rotating presidency, Iyad Allawi, both resigned on Friday without giving a reason for their decision.
Goodbye. Don't come back. Ever.
Moqtada Sadr, the radical cleric whose followers have been directing violent unrest in Shia areas since Sunday, has demanded the withdrawal of coalition troops from Iraq.
You said that before...
Speaking in a sermon read out at Friday Prayers by an aide in the town of Kufa, he said US President George W Bush could no longer point to Saddam Hussein or weapons of mass destruction as reasons to be in Iraq.
How about Mass graves? Rape Rooms? Rape Squads? Oh... those are ok with Mr. Sadr....
"You are now fighting an entire nation, from south to north, from east to west, and we advise you to withdraw from Iraq," said Mr Sadr, who is the subject of a coalition arrest warrant.
No. We are only fighting the few supporters you have left. Then we will give you your wish of dying for your cause.
President Bush has been consulting other coalition leaders by telephone, speaking to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski and El Salvadoran President Francisco Flores. A senior US commander, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, said in Baghdad that operations to quell Shia unrest were going well.
Moqtada's not dead yet, though...
UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has said the coalition is facing its "most serious" threat since the end of the war. The US has reported the deaths of at least 42 of its soldiers in combat since Sunday and militants are holding a number of foreign nationals hostage, including three Japanese citizens, two Palestinians and a Canadian. Russia has called on the sides in Iraq to show restraint and warned of "an impending humanitarian disaster" in Falluja.
Don't forget the part about the Brutal Iraqi Winter™...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/09/2004 6:12:56 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Russia has called on the sides in Iraq to show restraint and warned of "an impending humanitarian disaster" in Falluja."

No, Vlad, that would be Grozny you're thinking of. This is Fallujah.
Posted by: Matt || 04/09/2004 18:53 Comments || Top||

#2  You are now fighting an entire nation, from south to north, from east to west,

I don't know about the northern part of Iraq. You know, where the Kurds are.

Russia has called on the sides in Iraq to show restraint and warned of "an impending humanitarian disaster" in Falluja.

This was the Russian version of a Saturday Night Live skit.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/09/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#3  "This is genocide"

No you witless moron- genocide would be the West having it's fill of all the decades of ME bullshit and finally nuking it into smooth, smoking glass. Which is sounding like the better option by the hour.
Posted by: Craig || 04/09/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#4  WTF is up with "peace talks"?
Posted by: growler || 04/09/2004 19:05 Comments || Top||

#5  "This ain't Rock and Roll, This is Genocide"

opening line - David Bowie; Diamond Dogs (live)

smells like teen spirit plagiarism
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 19:14 Comments || Top||

#6  From that Marine's letter that has been circulating around the Internet these last few days

Things have been busy here. You know I can't say much about it. However, I do know two things. One, POTUS has given us the green light to do whatever we needed to do to win this thing so we have that going for us. Two, and my opinion only, this battle is going to have far reaching effects on not only the war here in Iraq but in the overall war on terrorism.

Having no military background, I read this as meaning Bush has told them to take the gloves off, and go win this thing. To me, this is the last "fight" that has to happen, and it is occurring on our terms.

Any thoughts?
Posted by: Sherry || 04/09/2004 19:29 Comments || Top||

#7  Sherry, this doesn't quite respond to your question, but Wretchard at Belmont Club says:

"The pitiful accounts of the battle of Fallujah should put paid to the silly press suggestions that the US military is "overwhelmed". The problem is that the terrifying combat efficiency of the Marines may in fact lead to the literal extermination of enemy forces. US authorities, with a longer term end game in mind, are balancing the political outcomes of letting the Marines continue, even in their restrained mode, and taking more US casualties from holding back. When the media learns the full extent of enemy casualties in Fallujah, Kut, Ramadi, Saddam city and elsewhere, the image of the US military will be switched from "hapless" to "bullying" in a millisecond."

I really like that phrase "terrifying combat efficiency of the Marines."
Posted by: Matt || 04/09/2004 20:05 Comments || Top||

#8  I don't know; none of us do. I think you may be reading more into that remark than is warranted, Sherry.

I hope not, God knows; but so much of what we're hearing these days strikes me as symptomatic of leadership which has gone timid, and which has allowed itself to focus too much on nation building and not enough on destruction of the enemy.

We conduct ourselves according to the high standards of our western civilization, perhaps to impress the population with our decency and good intent; but in their frame of reference, they don't know how to interpret our behavior as anything other than some sort of weird timidity.

I really worry that we're being far too gentle over their, and as a direct result many more people will die--theirs as well as ours--than would be the case and went utterly medieval on these Fallujah gangsters.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/09/2004 20:07 Comments || Top||

#9  "No dumb, well meaning bastard, has ever won a war dying for his country; He lets the other dumb bastard die for his country!"
Ohh Patton...where are you!!!
Posted by: smn || 04/09/2004 20:27 Comments || Top||

#10  >I really worry that we're being far too gentle

Yes, it's probably best to strike a balance between Cruelty And Clemency. Since there are reports that all Fallujan men of military age are been denied passage out of Fallajah, I'd say that a lesson in cruelty is being prepared.
Posted by: Lux || 04/09/2004 20:28 Comments || Top||

#11  I sure hope that's the case. There's an awful lot of caterwauling about negotiations, though. Way too much for my taste.
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2004 20:34 Comments || Top||

#12  Sherry,
While I certainly hope that the military will be able to fight this on their terms, I am not optimistic that this is the last fight. I am encouraged that FOX just reported that 60,000 people evacuated Fallujah, and please, Please, PLEASE hope that we made sure to thorougly vet them. BTW- this is appx 1/4 of that city's population.

With Syria and Iran next door, I fear that we are in for many months of intermittent insurrection. We must have the will to bear it all out to the end!

Steve DenBeste of USS Clueless posted an unoffical white paper of our gov'ts intentions and policy wrt the ME and the WOT. God save us if we are not brave enough to see this finished.

A recent poster on LGF said it quite well- we have three options; Bear with the Islamists as-is (which means that we will eventually live in dhimmitude), change them, or KILL THEM! Position one is untenable, position two is commendable- and is what GWB is attempting, position three becomes more tempting as the horrors of the Muslim world come out into the light of day.

I have often stated that I have the utmost respect for those who respect me. IMHO the Islamists show nothing but disdain, to say the least, for any but the most reactionary of the Muslim world. In their view, we must either submit to their perversion of Islam or die. I will join the long history of liberty in our great country- give me liberty or give me death. I will fully support blasting these bastards to their 72 raisins until they quit screaming for my death.


Posted by: Craig || 04/09/2004 20:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Thanks, guys, I always respect your words..........
Posted by: Sherry || 04/09/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||

#14  "How can a superpower like the US put itself in a state of war with a small city like Falluja? This is genocide," he told AFP news agency on Friday, the first anniversary of the fall of Saddam Hussein.

How can we? Easy, just mutilate and burn our civilians, then sit back and watch the mosques come tumbling down.

Does anyone else find it ironic in the extreme that this accusation of "genocide" exactly coincides with the first anniversary of Saddam's being deposed? Were Hussein still in power, the real "genocide" would be continuing entirely unabated.

NOTE TO TERRORISTS: If this is how you define "genocide," keep a Thesaurus handy, because you're really going to need one.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 20:55 Comments || Top||

#15  I think those three options put forth by the LGF poster Craig cited are indeed our choices: put up with incessant 9/11-style attacks from the Islamoloonies, foster a sea-change in Islamic societies which will render them non-toxic, or just kill them all.

Right now they don't have sense enough to know that their very survival depends on whether we succeed with the de-toxification experiment we're conducting in Iraq. We've got to make this work; I don't want my grandchildren to have to decide between submitting to sharia and killing a half-billion Arabs in a nuclear holocaust.

We've got to make it work- yet the entire Democratic Party is trying their damndest to make it fail, just so they can win this presidential election.

Pray for us.

Posted by: Dave D. || 04/09/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||

#16  You heard it here first:

When all this Falluja nonsense calms down, Al-Jizz and locals will start discovering "mass graves".

I almost envy the leaders of the islamofascists; the strategic PR moves for them are too easy.
Posted by: Carl in NH || 04/09/2004 21:23 Comments || Top||

#17  We are at a key juncture in modern history. Reform of Islam, down to it's core will occur. It would be far better for it to change from within, and I support the far too few sane Islamic voices such as Irshad Manji. But, by damn, if they do not find a way to muzzle and quell the Islamists instead of being cowed by them, the West will be forced to silence the Islamists for them, and no one will be overjoyed with the aftermath.
Posted by: Craig || 04/09/2004 21:24 Comments || Top||

#18  Dave D.

I don't know how old you are, but I don't plan on leaving my children, let alone grandchildren, the choice of submitting to sharia, though they may voluntarily convert anytime they want. I'd make the decision for them real soon. And I've got a daughter 20. Real Soon, y'all heah?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 04/09/2004 21:24 Comments || Top||

#19  Just an interesting tidbit of information that gets stored back in my mind.... I heard, only once today, from Brett on Fox... during the cease fire, the dead were being buried in a soccer field in the middle of town. Over 300 of them, and all fighters.

Now, if I'm a citizen of this town, I don't think I would be letting my kin be buried in a soccer field in the middle of town.

Thinkin'.... humm... are we running out of enemy?
Posted by: Sherry || 04/09/2004 22:24 Comments || Top||

#20  Sherry - There might be a looming shortage of attacking forwards...
Posted by: .com || 04/09/2004 22:30 Comments || Top||

#21  I really don't understand these IGC members criticizing the U.S. for finally taking out the garbage in Falujah. If enough of these baathists and islamofascists survive, the IGC can forget about having a free, prosperous Iraq. But action A/consequence B logic is pretty rare in that part of the world.
Posted by: Kirk || 04/09/2004 23:05 Comments || Top||

#22  Kirk,

We're going to install a democracy. There will be at least one election. Some of them may be starting their campaigns a litle early.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 04/09/2004 23:39 Comments || Top||

#23  No telling what's being planned for Fallujah, but we better kill as many of the baddies as we can find now, because we're unlikely to be handed the chance again. Not even these holy-joe guys will volunteer to walk into the Marine meat-grinder again, I think. They'll switch to low-intensity again, wait out the handover, then work the new Gov't for all they can extort.
Posted by: mojo || 04/10/2004 0:11 Comments || Top||


Blackwater contractors were lured into an ambush by ICDC members
AFP and Reuters may have had a heads-up from the mutilators.
At first, their gruesome deaths seemed the work of yet another random ambush in Iraq, this one made unforgettable by images of incensed Iraqis celebrating the sight of charred corpses swinging from a bridge over the Euphrates River. But now it appears that the four private security contractors killed, burned and mutilated in Falluja last week were in fact lured into a carefully planned ambush by men they believed to be friendly members of the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, according to Patrick Toohey, a senior executive at the security firm, Blackwater USA. The Iraqi men, Mr. Toohey said, promised the Blackwater-led convoy safe and swift passage through the dangerous city, but instead, a few kilometers later, they suddenly blocked off the road, preventing any escape from waiting gunmen. "The truth is, we got led into this ambush," Mr. Toohey, vice president for government relations at Blackwater, said in an interview, offering the company’s first detailed account of the attack. "We were set up," he said.

Two senior Pentagon officials said yesterday that they could not independently confirm the conclusions of the Blackwater investigation, and that a separate military inquiry was continuing. Mr. Toohey said his company’s investigation of the incident, which included interviews with convoy drivers who survived the ambush, had not yet determined whether the Blackwater employees were led into Falluja by active members of the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, or whether they were led into the city by imposters wearing defense corps uniforms. But the convoy, on a mission to pick up kitchen equipment, had little cause for suspicion: the Iraqi escort had been arranged and met with the convoy as planned at an intersection just east of Falluja. "They said, `We’ll escort you, show you a short way through Falluja,’ " Mr. Toohey said.

Imposters or not, he said, the incident underscored deepening concern about the reliability of the Iraqi civil defense forces at a time when allied troops are fighting in many parts of Iraq to suppress militant Sunni and Shiite groups. Mr. Toohey’s account, if confirmed, could deflect blame for the incident from Blackwater, which is based in Moyock, N.C. And the company’s initial findings are in line with recent complaints from senior American officials about Iraqi forces. In testimony last month to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Gen. John P. Abizaid, the top American commander in the Middle East, spoke openly of his worries about the Iraqi security and police forces, now numbering more than 200,000. "There’s no doubt that terrorists and insurgents will attempt to infiltrate the security forces," he said. "We know it’s happening, and we know it has happened. We attempt to do our best with regard to vetting people."

Also, the Pentagon has received new intelligence reports warning that Sunni and Shiite militia groups have been ransacking Iraqi police stations in some cities, and then handing out both weapons and police uniforms to angry mobs, government officials said. Yesterday, the interim interior minister of Iraq, the official responsible for the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, resigned, citing criticism from L. Paul Bremer III, the American administrator. Although Blackwater provides for Mr. Bremer’s personal security detail, it is not clear whether Mr. Bremer’s criticism specifically related to the Falluja attack on the Blackwater team. "There’s a question about whether they were set up and whether it was an inside job by Iraqi civil defense people," one American intelligence official said. "That’s a problem across Iraq, knowing which of the so-called Iraqi police forces are on our side and on their side. There’s no question there is information flowing out to the bad guys."

At the same time, the four Falluja deaths and other clashes involving private security guards have prompted fresh questions about the scores of security companies working in Iraq on contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars. With thousands of private security employees now guarding supply lines, buildings and reconstruction projects — and with thousands more on the way — they are increasingly being drawn into firefights and other combat situations that traditionally have been left to the military. Last weekend, eight Blackwater contractors assigned to protect a building in Najaf fought alongside four marines and three Salvadoran soldiers to defeat a determined attack by hundreds of Iraqi militia members. The men fired thousands of rounds, yet were very nearly overrun, Mr. Toohey said. "They were down to single digits of ammo, less than 10 rounds a man." Desperate and unable to communicate directly with military commanders, the eight Blackwater contractors instead called in help from Blackwater employees, he said. With approval from Mr. Bremer’s staff, three Blackwater helicopters — the same ones used to ferry Mr. Bremer around Iraq — were dispatched to the Najaf battle to drop ammunition and retrieve a wounded marine. "It was O.K. with him if they went out and saved some American lives," Mr. Toohey said of Mr. Bremer.

In a letter to the Pentagon yesterday, Democratic leaders requested information about the methods and activities of private security companies in Iraq, expressing concern that they could "contribute to Iraqi resentment." Thirteen Democratic senators — including the Democratic leader, Tom Daschle; Carl Levin, the senior Democrat on the Armed Services Committee; and the vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee, John D. Rockefeller IV — called for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to provide "an accurate tally" of the privately armed non-Iraqi security personnel in Iraq. They also requested that the Pentagon adopt written guidelines, with supporting legal justification, for the rules of engagement security contractors should follow, as well as instructions on coordinating with the military and the future sovereign Iraqi government. "It would be a dangerous precedent if the United States allowed the presence of private armies operating outside the control of governmental authority and beholden only to those who pay them," the senators said in the letter. Blackwater employs some 450 "independent contractors" in Iraq to protect Mr. Bremer, guard five regional buildings used by the occupation forces and provide security for supply convoys. Mr. Toohey said the growing use of security contractors deserves a thorough debate both in the United States and around the world. "This is a phenomenon," he said. "This is a whole new issue in military affairs. Think about it. You’re actually contracting civilians to do military-like duties."

But for some relatives of the Blackwater men killed in Falluja, the immediate questions are focused on the precise circumstances surrounding the attack and its horrific aftermath. "Why weren’t they escorted?" asked Tom Zovko, brother of Jerry Zovko, one of the Blackwater men killed in Falluja. "I don’t believe my brother would have done that. He was definitely not careless."

Mr. Toohey said Blackwater officials have begun to piece together the events of March 31 in part through interviews with three convoy truck drivers who survived the attack. The drivers and other witnesses, he said, described "a classic, well-planned vehicle ambush" in which the five-vehicle convoy was suddenly blocked from the front and the rear by vehicles. "The I.C.D.C. blocked the road, and the ambush happened," he said, referring to the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, a force trained by the United States to guard roads and utilities and to fight insurgents. The assailants first "opened up at point-blank range" on the rear car in the convoy, he said, then fired on the lead vehicle. "This ambush didn’t even take 60 seconds," Mr. Toohey said.

The senior military spokesman in Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, said yesterday in a telephone interview that he was not aware of the Blackwater inquiry’s findings and had been focused on current military operations. Officials at the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps did not respond to telephone messages. Blackwater executives have briefed several members of Congress in recent days on the Falluja deaths, Congressional aides said. Mr. Toohey and Erik Prince, the company’s owner, met Wednesday with at least four Senators, including John W. Warner, a Virginia Republican, who heads the Armed Services Committee. At the same time, Mr. Toohey said, Blackwater has made changes in "tactics, techniques and procedures" as a result of what they have already learned about the Falluja attack. The company has also set up a fund to collect donations for the families of the four men.
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#1  With thousands of private security employees now guarding supply lines, buildings and reconstruction projects — and with thousands more on the way — they are increasingly being drawn into firefights and other combat situations that traditionally have been left to the military.

More of that prime NYT horse manure. Right. Just like the police back in the states help guard payroll deliveries. Not.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/09/2004 17:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Thirteen Democratic senators — including the Democratic leader, Tom Daschle; Carl Levin, the senior Democrat on the Armed Services Committee; and the vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee, John D. Rockefeller IV — called for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to provide "an accurate tally" of the privately armed non-Iraqi security personnel in Iraq


worried they may help prevent the quagmire Kerry needs for the election? Bastards!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 18:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Frank -- sounds like the Democrats are following the lead of their favorite loon, Kos. No doubt they think the "mercenary" crap is something they can turn into an issue.

Never mind that outsourcing military functions was (as I understand it) a part of Algore's "Re-engineering Government" crap.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/09/2004 19:38 Comments || Top||


Central Asia
Uzbek Terrorists Said Trained by al-Qaida
By BURT HERMAN
Burt then goes on to pooh-pooh most of what he writes...
The suspects behind a wave of suicide bombings and attacks on police in Uzbekistan got military training from Arab instructors who also taught al-Qaida fighters, the country's top prosecutor said Friday. Prosecutor-General Rashid Kadyrov also said the militants were influenced by Hizb ut-Tahrir, an extremist Islamic group that claims to disavow violence, and the Islamic Movement of Turkestan — a terrorist group believed to have emerged from the remains of an Uzbek group decimated in U.S.-led operations in Afghanistan.
That'd be the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan...
Kadyrov did not offer any evidence or take questions from reporters at his news briefing.
"So he's probably lying..."
Uzbekistan has been keen to portray itself as the latest victim of global terrorism, but the authoritarian regime has created many enemies at home through its oppressive policies and crackdown on Muslims who worship outside state-affiliated mosques. At least 47 people died in the recent attacks, including 33 alleged terrorists and 10 police, Uzbek officials say.
In my teeny-tiny little mind, that makes them the latest victim of global terrorism, regardless of any actions on the gummint's part...
The violence was the first unrest here since Uzbekistan became a key U.S. ally after the Sept. 11 attacks and allowed hundreds of American troops to use a southern military base. Kadyrov said 45 people were under arrest and nine were under investigation in connection with four days of explosions, assaults on police and Central Asia's first-ever suicide bombings. He said 403 people were detained and later released. The groups behind the attacks, which began March 28, were formed in 2000 in the capital Tashkent and the surrounding region, as well as in central Bukhara province. Kadyrov referred to the alleged terror cells as a "Jamoat," which means "society" in Uzbek, and said they aimed to overthrow the Uzbek government and establish an Islamic state.
Chechnya's overrun by jamaats, or dzhamaats, as they call them in that area. So're most other countries where they have mosques...
"Investigators have data that the Jamoat's aims and religious ideas — terrorist acts involving self-sacrifice — are based on ideas of Hizb ut-Tahrir, strengthened by radical ideas of the Islamic Movement of Turkestan terrorist group and other Islamic extremist trends," Kadyrov said.
That'd be my guess, too, though I'd have thought IMU remnants would be involved...
Regional officials and analysts have described the Islamic Movement of Turkestan as an outgrowth of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan — a terror group seeking the overthrow of the secular Uzbek regime and blamed for an alleged 1999 assassination attempt on President Islam Karimov that killed 16 people. The IMU fought alongside the Taliban and al-Qaida in Afghanistan in 2001 against the U.S.-backed northern alliance, and hundreds of the IMU's fighters were believed killed. The new group is believed to include the IMU as well as other extremist groups, including Uighur separatists from China's predominantly Muslim Xinjiang province.
So I guess it actually does include the IMU remnants, just under a new name, probably with new management...
Uzbekistan has long sought to label Hizb ut-Tahrir — which seeks to establish a worldwide Islamic state — as a breeding ground for terrorists.
Probably they want to apply that label to the Hezb because it's accurate...
But the group has never been linked to a terror attack, and its London office denied any involvement in the latest Uzbek attacks. Hizb ut-Tahrir is banned across Central Asia, but the U.S. government has not labeled it a terror group.
It should, even if it does keep its hands overtly clean...
Kadyrov said the militant groups behind the attacks were headed by a single leader known as the "Great Amir" who was located outside Uzbekistan. He refused to say where.
Riyadh? Peshawar? London? Oh, c'mon! Tell us!
"The leader of the criminal organization controlled and coordinated the activity of the Jamoat, maintaining ties with international terrorist groups, ensuring funding and these groups' training at special camps," Kadyrov said. "Their training at guerrilla camps was conducted by Arab instructors who also trained al-Qaida militants." The prosecutor said investigators found computer files at the home of an alleged terrorist with documents on training in "Pakistan and other states." He claimed the militants had underground contacts in four countries, which he did not identify.
Pakistan, Soddy Arabia, Iran and Syria?
Besides a few pictures of alleged extremist literature, Uzbek authorities have not made public any concrete evidence of links between the suspects and foreign terrorist groups.
So it prob'ly doesn't really exist, does it, Burt?
Human rights groups have expressed concerns that authorities could use the attacks to deepen a crackdown on independent Muslims in Uzbekistan.
"Human rights" groups always make those kinds of noises. I've yet to see a "human rights group" stop a terrorist attack...
But Kadyrov said "during the investigation, we will insure strict protection of human rights and we will make sure that no innocent people will be held responsible."
Posted by: Fred || 04/09/2004 2:58:55 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Injured Marine says his unit chronically short of ammo...
EFL - Hattip Drudge
Cpl. Richard Stayskal, a 22-year-old Marine from San Jose, Calif., arrived in Landstuhl Tuesday after being wounded by automatic weapon fire in Ramadi, west of Baghdad. “I just kind of froze, my body clenched in the fetal position. I fell to the ground," Stayskal said. Stayskal, a sniper, had been deployed to Ramadi to hunt down a "mad bomber," the unit’s name for a man who had been seen planting roadside bombs targeted at U.S. and coalition forces. With little warning, a group of 15 armed Iraqis descended on the lightly armed unit. The bullet that hit Stayskal ricocheted off his shoulder, through his lung and exited from his back. It came within inches of his heart and major arteries. Countering the insurgency, Stayskal said, has been difficult for Marines on the ground. In his case, his unit was chronically short of ammunition, and his support unit got pinned down at the same time across town. The two units couldn’t help each other. "They weren’t giving us nearly enough ammunition for the situations out there. Everyone was running out. Everyone was grabbing each other’s ammunition."
Any Devil Dogs out there with input about the low ammo?
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 04/09/2004 2:27:39 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Read the article, he is from Ramadi and has nothing to do with the current Falluja operation. I am sure this has to do with the suprise attack that killed 12 marines the other day.
Posted by: Patrick || 04/09/2004 14:33 Comments || Top||

#2  This is kind of weird. I thought everyone got 200 rounds of ammo. I don't know know if that's nearly enough, but I thought our guys were trained to fire aimed shots.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/09/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||

#3  ive never been in combat, ZF, but my sense is that in urban warfar a soldier is going to fire off a LOT more shots than a sniper, say.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#4  YS - hard to say - I don't know what the exact tactical situation was. 200 ammo start is a combat load but I have no idea what Sniper's use as a base line - Unit sop dependent. Also, was he firing the Barrett or scout rifle? Did they bring their M-16s w/them? How long had they been fighting? I bet their intel only knew about cells of insurgents not squad size units & I don't what the distance was between his pos and the unit's log train when it got pinned down. Usually the STA Platoon SNCOIC or Chief Sniper takes care of the logistics for their platoons. They usually only go out in two man teams.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||

#5  thanks Jarhead
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 04/09/2004 15:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Was in the Marines in Nam.Sometimes we carried 3 bandoliers plus five full magazines.That is 120 in five magazines and 450 in the bandoliers.Fire discipline is critical.But these M-16's pump out more rounds than our M-14's(on semi-auto) did.Recently, I saw pictures of Marine grunts carrying two bandoliers.Not clear on whether this Sniper was with a fire team or not.
Posted by: rich woods || 04/09/2004 15:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Ammunition is cheap, our soldiers aren't, end of story. There is no reasonable excuse for our fighters to be endangered by poor supply logistics. I don't care if Stayskal's sniper rifle uses an odd caliber, the least we can do is make it easy for him to cap our foes. There's a quartermaster or materiel officer out there somewhere that needs to be busted down in rank over this.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#8  I've never been a Marine, but my SIL was in Desert Storm, part of the 24ID. His 8-man comm unit was issued a base of 600 rounds per man for their M-16s, but part of that was because they had to provide for their own security. Don't know if that was "normal" or not. My ONE combat experience was definitely not "normal", but we had plentiful ammo. We were also the only group using M-2 carbines and 7.62 rounds, instead of the 5.56 M-16s and ammo. I defer to Jarhead on this!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/09/2004 16:32 Comments || Top||

#9  Carrying 600 rounds of 7.62 ammo must have been heavy. Or atleast heavier than 5.56.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/09/2004 16:37 Comments || Top||

#10  Yup, an M-16 will zip through a 20-rd clip pretty damn fast on full auto. Which is why fire discipline is to fire single-shot. Leave the "spray-n-pray" stuff to the non-professionals. One shot, one kill.
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#11  Zenster, not that easy. From back here sure, sounds like total logistics f*ck up. From the Corporal's perspective all he knows is that he's short, he doesn't have a clue as to why the wickets between getting him another couple hundred rounds were not met. This has nothing to w/odd calibers either. Maybe the re-supply train got cut off. What was the commander's intent for that unit - they usually carry 200 but going less for whatever reason? Maybe their intel dicked the dog. Who knows. Maybe supply never got word they were short - comm screw up? There's an old saying - if your out of everything except enemy - your in combat. War is not pretty or cleanly executed and things get f*cked up bad sometimes - heck that's the damn norm (SNAFU ring a bell); the easy becomes difficult and the difficult becomes impossible under the fog of war. Good men die, good plans go to sh*t as soon as the first round is fired - that is war. These are lessons learned, unfortunately usually learned the hard way.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 16:42 Comments || Top||

#12  Gents, couple notes, we don't have full auto anymore. We have semi & burst. Burst is 3-rounds for one trigger squeeze. If *your* busting bursts that's about 9 to 10 trigger squeeze's per clip. Clips hold 30 but most of us go 28 rounds due to sometimes jam or wearing out clip springs w/full 30.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 16:46 Comments || Top||

#13  On top which, one can nerver have too much ammo.
Posted by: Michael || 04/09/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#14  "one can nerver have too much ammo"

Michael> a maxim indeed, along w/water and chow.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 16:52 Comments || Top||

#15  Yep, sounds like a fight. Are there enough enemy?
Posted by: Shipman || 04/09/2004 17:05 Comments || Top||

#16  There's an old saying - if your out of everything except enemy - your in combat.

Thank you for the perspective, Jarhead. I just don't want any insurgents to get away for want of a clip.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#17  Notknowing facts,my guess is his group was 2-man sniper team w/3-5 man fire team as escort.(Otherwise would 15 man enemy unit be imposing.)Prob. told no opposition expected so they were told to travel light-may also have been p.r.,not wanting Marines to look like they were loaded for bear.If there was a grenadier and radioman along,they would have carried less ammo than riflemen,thus requests for ammo from other members.Not to mention a M249 gunner would have gone thru ammo pretty quick.
Posted by: Stephen || 04/09/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#18  Stephen, you may be correct. According to article they were "hunting" a bomb layer along one of the MSRs. Not sure how far from the road they were set up or for that matter how they became engaged out of the blue by 15 Iraqis. Maybe they were set up on a building or in urban somewhere and got compromised. Hard to believe a scout/sniper team gets compromised 300+ yrds off a road. As you all know their concealment ability is damn near flawless, sniper is definitely their secondary job compared to surveillance and calling in indirect fire. Hence Surveillance Target Acquisition (STA) pronounced 'stay team'. Eyes and ears of most grunt battalions. There's got to be more to this story or something is being left out. Also, any leatherneck will tell ya Marines love to bitch by trade, this maybe an extreme case of the media picking up on something this Corporal said and running w/it. Yeah, I know, the media never does that.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 21:17 Comments || Top||

#19  Sounds like they were LP/OP type setup, and were on foot. Std army load is 600 but a lot of that is on the truck/humvee/APC (Airborne carries less just for that reason). IF I remember correctly the Marines are 400 for a loadout but thats because they almost always operate dismounted.

Problem could have been green troops and lack of fire discipline. Or simply they may have been grabbed at the end of a patrol - when they were RTB skosh on ammo due to useage.

Or, as others point out, could have been a sniper team and they simply would not carry that much 7.62 while everyone else was carrying 5.56
Posted by: OldSpook || 04/09/2004 23:04 Comments || Top||

#20  There has been no description of how the team was manned up.Sounds like they got caught in the open and had to return fire not necssarily at speific targets and burned up ammo fast.Not a snafu,just circumstances.
Posted by: rich woods || 04/10/2004 8:17 Comments || Top||

#21  "With little warning, a group of 15 armed Iraqis descended on the lightly armed unit."

This tells me something.
Posted by: rich woods || 04/10/2004 8:19 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Insurgents Say They Have Seized Four Italians & Two Americans
Posted by: Karma || 04/09/2004 10:15 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For every single hostage they take (even Arab ones), merely evacuate and surround another mosque. Sap every structure comprehensively and as each hostage is offed, blow another mosque into the junkyard of paradise. No exceptions.

Hurt a hostage = Tumble a mosque.

If they keep it up long enough, all we'll have left is Karbala's most sacred Mosque of the Tomb. It'd be a pity if we had to demolish their most sacred shrine just because they refused to stop being barbaric sh!ts.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||


90 Minute Cease Fire Over, Residents escaping to Naimiyah
Obviously Aljazeera is Anti-American, but has just about the only reporter in Fallujah
US occupation forces have bombed the Iraqi town of Falluja, belying administrator Paul Bremer’s announcement that his forces were suspending military operations there. "As of noon today coalition forces have initiated a unilateral suspension of offensive operations in Falluja," Paul Bremer told reporters on Friday. But, the US-led occupation’s deputy director of operations, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, denied the reports of a ceasefire.
"No hudnas, thank you..."
Minutes after Bremer’s announcement, US forces carried out a fresh offensive on Falluja bombing the town from the air. Scores of residents were injured in the attack, reported our correspondent. "There is no brokered agreement for a ceasefire in Falluja," Kimmitt told AFP. "There is no agreement between the rebels and the coalition forces." Earlier, the Iraqi Governing Council member Mohsin Abd al-Hameed in a statement on behalf of his Iraqi Islamic party to Aljazeera said military action in Falluja would end for a period of 24 hours.
24 Hours? It’s not that easy, pal!
Upon commitment to a ceasefire by the occupation forces and Iraqi resistance fighters the ceasefire would continue, the statement said. The Islamic party political bureau would send a delegation to hold talks with prominent figures in the town, the statement said.
Thereby presenting themselves as men of substance, men who can control the insurgency, men to be negotiated with...
Aljazeera, meanwhile, has learnt that during negotiations to end the military offensive, US forces imposed many conditions including getting the Aljazeera crew out of the town. At dawn on Friday, US forces asked the residents to evacuate the town, reported our correspondent. This was preceded by bombardment by US forces since late on Thursday. Helicopters were seen hovering after the bombings. Violent clashes also erupted between US forces and resistance fighters. US tanks too reached central Falluja and bombed the Golan area as well as Nazzal, Zubat and Askari. The bombardment destroyed 10 houses while three went up in flames. Our correspondent witnessed a large family arriving at the hospital with two of its members dead.
That's too bad. Maybe they should have beat it out of the combat zone. Or were the deaders Pop and Sonny, lately Heroic Fighters of the Resistance™?
Other members were still under debris, he said, adding that one shrapnel hit a pregnant woman while another pierced the eye of a child.
Being a human shield ain't all it's cracked up to be, is it?
Ambulances were bringing in casualties all night while people have started fleeing the city fearing more attacks. Men, women and children were fleeing on foot through backstreets and paths that cut through fields, carrying small bags, food and medicines. Most were seen heading toward the nearby village of Naimiyah, south of Fallujah, which has been under effective US siege since Monday. Bodies were left to rot in the streets as people cowered indoors.
Did anybody remember to mutilate them?
On Thursday, the US marines tried to enter the neighbourhoods of Zubat and Nazzal but the Shia militia pounded them with anti-tank rockets and mortar fire, forcing them to retreat.
Shia in Falluja?
The fierce confrontations have left more than 300 people dead and over 500 wounded, our correspondent reported, citing hospital sources.
Posted by: CobraCommander || 04/09/2004 10:02:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm not sure what time Kimmet made these statements, but FOXNEWS has an update:

There were reports that the suspension had been canceled, but Kimmitt told Fox News it was holding.

"Maybe some of the confusion has been we still have Marines in contact with the enemy," Kimmitt said.

The top U.S. civilian administrator, L. Paul Bremer, confirmed the offensive halt.

"As of noon today coalition forces have initiated a unilateral suspension of offensive operations in Fallujah to allow for a meeting between members of the Governing Council, local Muslim leadership and the leadership of anti-coalition forces," Bremer said.

Shooting was still heard in the city after the noon suspension began.
Posted by: CobraCommander || 04/09/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#2  A meeting for what? This little insurgency needs to be snuffed out. End of story. Since it's pretty damn obvious that these disillusioned Baathists aren't going to go quietly, then the solution is to kill them, and kill them ALL.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/09/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#3  We can't risk pissing off the rest of the population if we are seen as killing civilians left and right. It's bullshit, but we have to at least make the appearance of trying.
Posted by: Vis || 04/09/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Didn't say anything about killing civilians, unless all of Fallujah's residents are disillusioned Baathists. We're trying to set them straight, and there's some that don't want to go down that road. Those "some" need a bullet in their head, no questions asked. And since appearances seem to carry a lot of meaning with those types in the Middle East, being willing to spill blood without feeling a need to negotiate sends a nice, clear message.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/09/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#5  I like the fact that they want to kick Al-Jizwad's ass out of the town. They should be barred from the whole country. A-holes.
Posted by: remote man || 04/09/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#6  For everyone to comment on, and maybe Old Spook knows: Has our intel folks, i.e. CIA ever thought of infiltrating Al-Jiz for the purpose of finding out how they're on the scene so quick? Seems to me if tips are flying we could get in on them. Just a thought.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 12:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Meeting for what? The insurgents are being given an offer they can't refuse - Surrender or Die!
Posted by: Anonymous4105 || 04/09/2004 12:48 Comments || Top||

#8  This article has a certain odor to it. I'm not buyin' it. The jihadists (Al Jiz included) have little or no understanding of the West's concept of combat....they're completely misinterpreting what is taking place there, and it does not help.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 04/09/2004 12:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Has our intel folks, i.e. CIA ever thought of infiltrating Al-Jiz for the purpose of finding out how they're on the scene so quick?

I'm pretty sure it's still illegal for US agents to pose as reporters.

Stupid rule, especially since al'Jazeera appears to be working alongside every jihadi group on the planet, but there you have it.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/09/2004 14:13 Comments || Top||

#10  RC isnt that a prohibition on CIA operatives using (US) journalistic cover? Would it really apply to running an agent in a foreign press org?

In other news, the Govt of the Peoples Republic of China just declared that every member of the Peoples Liberation Army is a journalist, and will get a column in the peoples daily, just as space allows.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||

#11  LH, you're right it only applies to U.S. press corps. I think I got the idea from the Clancy book "without remorse".
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 14:28 Comments || Top||

#12  If I'm reading this story right there were 300 killed in Fallujah. What have our losses been? 4?

Assuming those killed are almost all combatants, that's a pretty hefty ratio in our favor. So why would we negotiate anything?
Posted by: RMcLeod || 04/09/2004 15:10 Comments || Top||

#13  basically to provide some political cover to the IGC who are feeling alot of heat from Iraqis, esp in Baghdad, who are under the impression that civilians are getting hurt in Fallujah. You want to show youre reasonable, and maybe give civvies a chance to leave.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||

#14  I think that has to do with what you call a civilian. A women packing an AK47 is not a civilian but a combatant.

Plus you have their oh-so couragous and brave practice of hiding behind women and children. We should get pictures of this to show on local TV as well as the threats to burn alive hostages and the like.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/09/2004 15:25 Comments || Top||

#15  Remember what Kimmitt said earlier - that the response would be deliberate but tough. The Fallujah operation is going to be something that the rebels will remember for a long, long time. It's like the clearing of Hue (also done by Marines - watch Full Metal Jacket*), but with fewer US casualties and less full-bore firepower.

* Full Metal Jacket's story line is weird in the sense that there is no way a platoon of Marines would go after a single sniper. As far as I can tell, they're trained to take care of the problem by either calling in fire support or backing away.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/09/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#16  From Fox News: U.S. soldiers used loud speakers to warn people in Arabic that if they had weapons in the area, they would be shot.

The gloves are off - no more celebratory firing in the air for the rebel forces.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/09/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#17  Talk about turning points in history...we may be witnessing one. As Tom Friedman said months ago (paraphrased), now that the Pandora's Box is open we have to be willing to go all the way...or the Western World is lost.
Posted by: anymouse || 04/09/2004 15:49 Comments || Top||

#18  I like the Pandora's box metaphor. Now its been opened, you can't close the lid and walk away. You have to deal with the contents as they emerge.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/09/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

#19  The gloves are off - no more celebratory firing in the air for the rebel forces.

That should have been one of the first new laws from the IGC, alongside an explanation that "if the Americans think you have a weapon pointed in their direction, they will kill you, so it's best not to even risk it".

We need to treat gunsex like the British treated suttee: "It's our tradition to return fire".
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/09/2004 22:57 Comments || Top||


U.S. Orders Halt to Falluja Operations, but Situation Unclear
What’s going on?
A halt to Marine operations in Falluja was announced today by the top American administrator in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer III, so that talks could be held with a delegation of sheiks and the city’s residents could collect their dead and wounded. But the situation on the ground was far from clear. Lt. Col. Brennan Byrne, commander of the First Battalion, Fifth Marine Regiment, told news agencies that his forces were continuing to respond to insurgent attacks. "I would not describe this as a cease-fire," The Associated Press quoted the colonel as saying. "We are still aggressively defending our positions. However we have ceased offensive operations for now."
"It's more like a hudna, I guess..."
However, the coalition’s deputy director of operations, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, insisted that a unilateral cease-fire was in force. "We suspended unilaterally the operation at 12 noon," the general told CNN. At the same time, a live report from Falluja by Al Jazeera television monitored in Baghdad showed a helicopter releasing some kind of fire on a part of the city called Hay Jolan. The Arab station also showed Iraqi medics and residents in the city gathering up dead bodies and wounded people and quoted the medics as saying that until now there had been no chance to collect the victims of the four days of heavy fighting. A doctor at one of the city’s hospitals, Rasi al-Esawi, said that 141 bodies had been collected at his medical center since the fighting started, with 30 collected just today. The live coverage on Al Jazeera showed convoys of Iraqi cars coming into Falluja. The station, monitored in Baghdad, also reported shelling from American tanks, but the reports could not be verified. The delegation from Falluja was reported by news agencies to be meeting with Marine commanders at their base outside the city. The purpose of the talks was not immediately announced.

Earlier today, American-led troops retook the eastern town of Kut two days after Ukrainian forces withdrew following clashes with Shiite militiamen loyal to the radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, The A.P. reported. Mr. Sadr’s followers launched an uprising this week, battling American-led forces in Shiite areas across Iraq. One Ukrainian soldier was killed this week in Kut. Shiite militiamen still control the center of the holy city of Najaf, where Mr. Sadr, for whom an arrest warrant has been issued, is thought to be holed up. In Karbala, overnight clashes between Shiite fighters and Polish and Bulgarian troops killed 15 Iraqis, and 6 Iranian pilgrims were shot dead near a Polish checkpoint between Babel and Kerbala, the Iraqi police said.
Half a dozen Iranian "pilgrims," huh?
In other developments, Mr. Bremer named two members of the Governing Council to key posts. Samir Sumaidy, a Sunni independent, becomes interior minister, replacing Nouri Badran, a Shiite, who resigned on Thursday. In addition, Mowaffak al-Rubaie, a Shiite independent, takes on the newly created role of national security adviser.
Posted by: tipper || 04/09/2004 9:55:26 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A halt to Marine operations in Falluja was announced today by the top American administrator in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer III, so that talks could be held with a delegation of sheiks and the city’s residents could collect their dead and wounded.

It appears that Bremer is trying his damned best to piss away any chances of proving that the U.S. is dead serious where insurgents are concerned.

"If you even consider negotiations or appeasement, then we are all doomed."

-- Healing Iraq blog
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/09/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#2  This story is OBE (overcome by events) - the ceasefire ended 90 minutes later when the Fallujan fighters rejected any agreement, truce or discussion.

Civilians are fleeing the city.
Posted by: rkb || 04/09/2004 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Finally civilians are fleeing the city. Anyone with a lick of sense would have left right after the contractors were lynched last week. Reports that the Marines are allowing supplies into the city are hard to believe, unless they are planting GPS transponders and bugging equipment on each & every vehicle they let into the city.
Posted by: Tresho || 04/09/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#4  they had dogs sniff the vehicles, apparently.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Relax - this is a WWII-style pause to let civilians leave. From WaPo:

On the ground in Fallujah, Marine Lt. Col. Brennan Byrne, the commander of the U.S. Marine unit, told reporters that offensive operations were being suspended to allow women and children -- and men too old to fight -- to leave the battered city en masse in response to pleas from city religious leaders.

"We are simply affording them the chance to leave the city," he said, reporting that vehicles carrying civilians were already moving onto the highways leading out of town.

Posted by: Zhang Fei || 04/09/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||


Developments in Iraq
Major developments in Iraq on Friday, the first anniversary of the fall of Baghdad to American forces:
  • There was violence across the country as U.S. Marines halted their offensive in Fallujah, the scene of bloody fighting with Sunni insurgents this week.

  • U.S. forces retook the southern city of Kut, two days after Ukrainian forces abandoned their base under attack from militiamen loyal to the radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

  • Anti-U.S. Shiite militiamen still held partial or full control over the southern cities of Najaf and Kufa. Officials said it appeared there were links ’’at the lowest levels’’ between the Shiite militia and Sunni Arab insurgents who have long fought U.S. troops in central Iraq.

  • With the surge of violence, officials say Gen. John Abizaid, the war’s top commander, likely will keep more troops in Iraq than planned. All or parts of the 1st Armored Division, scheduled to turn over responsibility for the Baghdad area to the 1st Cavalry Division next week and return home, is likely to be ordered to stay.

  • A senior aide to al-Sadr denied that the radical Shiite cleric’s militia was involved in the kidnapping of three Japanese and threats to burn them alive. Japan vowed not to withdraw 530 troops after kidnappers threatened to burn the three Japanese captives alive unless Tokyo withdraws its noncombat soldiers. Militants were holding at least six foreign hostages.

  • Australia said it would keep troops in Iraq despite escalating violence and a string of kidnappings. Canberra said to ’’cut and run’’ would be bad for Iraq and global security.

  • The Philippines said it would keep its troops in Iraq, but Thailand said a further deterioration of the situation may force a pullout of its 443 troops in the southern city of Karbala, scheduled to stay through September.

  • South Korea stood by plans to send 3,600 troops to Iraq despite rising violence there, but placed severe restrictions on travel to Iraq after the kidnappings.
Posted by: tipper || 04/09/2004 9:37:20 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A senior aide to al-Sadr denied that the radical Shiite cleric’s militia was involved in the kidnapping of three Japanese and threats to burn them alive.
I call bullshit. He claims that he is 'in charge' so we should hold Al-Sadr and his aids responsible for the hostages.
Thailand also has to look at what is happening to Spain who also 'appeased' the terrorists.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/09/2004 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  didn't know the Phillipines and Thailand had troops in the unilateral coalition. Good on them. Hang tough.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/09/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Villagers lynch Maoist rebels in rural Nepal
Actually, I consider this to be a good sign...
Angry villagers lynched seven Maoist rebels in rural Nepal after the guerrillas kidnapped and released some 1,500 people in an abduction campaign that has sparked international concern, officials said on Thursday. The violence came as shops were closed and traffic off the streets across the Himalayan kingdom on the last day of a three-day Maoist strike. Most of 1,500 youths snatched Tuesday were freed after the Maoists, who want to set up a communist state, made them attend an indoctrination session, said Bhanu Dev Badu, chief administrator of the southwestern Kanchanpur district. "The villagers were taken to a place 35 kilometres away and most were released after a Maoist-affiliated peasant organisation held a meeting with them," Badu told AFP.
Held a "Come to Mao" meeting, little red book in one hand and AK-47 in the other.
Enraged by the abductions, villagers on Thursday caught eight rebels and beat seven of them to death, turning over the guerrilla leader to troops, said an army official, Colonel Ramsharan Karki. "The villagers also seized a semi-automatic machine gun and a few locally made guns and bombs," Karki said.
Well, so much for winning those hearts and minds.
Maybe they should work on that lecture's content a little...
In contrast, the content of the villagers' lecture seemed perfectly clear.
In a southeastern district, Ilam, a large band of Maoists attacked a police post where 65 police were stationed, killing a police inspector and a junior officer, a police spokesman said. He said the bodies of two Maoists had been recovered but more could have been carried away by the rebels when they fled. Eighteen policemen who were in the post at the time of the attack had contacted authorities but "45 other policemen are feared to have been abducted by the rebels and a search is on to find them," the spokesman said. A wave of abductions by the rebels has prompted criticism at home and abroad amid reports that villagers in southern Nepal were fleeing for safety across the Indian border.
Arm the villagers, they seem to be doing better than the cops.
Rajendra Singh Rawal, the Kanchanpur district secretary for the opposition Nepal Communist Party-United Marxist and Leninist, which opposes the Maoists, said at least 3,000 villagers left their homes for India or neighbouring districts after Tuesday’s abductions. "The government has completely failed to protect villagers, who got kidnapped in broad daylight," Rawal said.
"We Marxist Leninist Communists should be in charge, we have nothing in common with those Maoists! Really! Why are you rolling your eyes like that?"
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 8:43:45 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "So Fight! Fight! Fight! for Washington State..."
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 11:03 Comments || Top||

#2  The 93rd Volunteer Infantry has a Gurkha battalion, it seems.
Posted by: Mike || 04/09/2004 14:27 Comments || Top||

#3  'Lynch' is such an angry word. I suggest WHCAALHFD
That being Whipped His Commie Ass And Left Him/Her For Dead.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/09/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Enraged by the abductions, villagers on Thursday caught eight rebels and beat seven of them to death ...

Slowly, I hope.

I guess the news from Tibet has finally filtered through to Nepal. Chinese communists really need to polish up their reputation for violent and corrupt government before they try any more of these fireside chats.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 17:23 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
U.S. Military: Coalition Forces Have Retaken Kut
U.S.-led coalition forces have retaken control of the southern Iraqi city of Kut, a military spokeswoman said Friday. The spokeswoman had no other information about how troops regained control of the city, which had been overrun by a militia led by radical Shiite cleric Muqtada Sadr. On Thursday, Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. general in Iraq, vowed that coalition forces would move “imminently” to break al-Sadr’s hold over Kut, 95 miles southeast of Baghdad, and destroy his Mahdi Army militia across the country in a new operation dubbed “Resolute Sword.” ...
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#1  duplicate of phil_b's
Posted by: Lux || 04/09/2004 4:57 Comments || Top||


Coalition forces have retaken Kut
U.S.-led coalition forces have retaken control of the southern Iraqi city of Kut, a military spokeswoman said Friday.
That's good to hear...
The spokeswoman had no other information about how troops regained control of the city, which had been overrun by a militia led by radical Shiite cleric Muqtada Sadr. On Thursday, Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. general in Iraq, vowed that coalition forces would move “imminently” to break al-Sadr’s hold over Kut, 95 miles southeast of Baghdad, and destroy his Mahdi Army militia across the country in a new operation dubbed “Resolute Sword.” Ukrainian troops in Kut abandoned their base Wednesday in the face of mortar fire and gunbattles, allowing Mahdi Army fighters to sweep in, seizing weapons stores and planting their flag. The militia also has full control over the southern cities of Kufa and the central part of Najaf. Police in the cities have abandoned their stations or stood aside as the gunmen roam the streets.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/09/2004 4:47:28 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Summary Situation report
1. Upper Euphrates Valley
A. Ramadi - Quiet?
B. Fallujah - Fighting resumes after a break to allow civilians to depart and to clear dead and wounded. USMC controls 25-50% of city? US reinforcements on the way?
2. Upper Tigris Valley
A. Baquba - some fighting around govt buildings
3. Baghdad
Coalition in control of all police stations and govt buildings. Mahdi army HQ destroyed in raid. Fighting continues in Sadr City. Insurgents, presumably Sunni, operating openly at Western edge of City, harrassing coalition convoys
4. Lower Tigris Valley
A. Kut - Recaptured by coalition, against light resistance
B. Asmara, Basra - quiet, Brits have deal to allow IP control of city centers
5. Lower Euphrates Valley
A. Kufa - Mahdi army has full control
B. Karbala - Polish and Bulgarian troops, now reinforced by 120 Americans, contest control of city center with Mahdi army
C. Najaf - Mahdi army controls "half of city" coalition operations have begun
D. Samawwa - Japanese troops taking mortar attacks
E. Nassariyah - quiet, Italian troops have made deal with IP to control city.

Overall - Still no sign of rebellion broadening in South. Definite signs of Mahdi army - Sunni linkages in Baghdad. Tigris Valley route from Baghdad to Kuwait in coalition hands, relieving fears of Baghdad being cut off from coalition resupply. Coalition starting to move troops around strategically. Likelihood that next steps are to advance in Fallujah, Kufa, and to secure Sadr City section of Baghdad, attriting enemy forces, before turning to the more delicate task of retaking the shrine cities of Najaf and Karbala.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 10:09 Comments || Top||

#2  CNN reports that Mahdis army in Kut being attacked by local Iraqi tribals, who are calling for US assistance, reconquest of city NOT complete. CNN also reports fighting in Nassiriya, no details.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 10:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Thanks, LH. Good summaries.
Posted by: Dar || 04/09/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#4  AP has more on retaking of Kut, which it says was completed last night. A convoy of US troops went to the city to retake it. Some IP and ICDC supported the recapture, even as some cooperated with the Mehdi army.

AFP reports insurgents control portion of the road west from Baghdad to Fallujah, notably in vicinity of Abu Ghraib which seems to be in rebel hands. Report that 55 prisoners freed from prison their.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 11:15 Comments || Top||

#5  The Command Post has summary of briefing by Kimmitt. I like this bullet point:

"Ramadi - Sheik gave up name of 11 insurgents, they were captured"

There is hope post-6/30....
Posted by: Carl in N.H || 04/09/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Reuters reports on situation in Abu Ghraib, implying insurgents in full control, but AFP indicates US troops (Army?) engaging insurgents in Abu Ghraib. I suspect AFP is correct, Coaliton MUST secure road from Baghdad to Fallujah, head off "countersiege"

Coalition reports things getting quieter in Sadr City, full control of govt buildings. Yet AFP reports US troops gone from a half dozen police station, at least one other govt building. My guess - they're prioritizing Abu Ghraib over Sadr City. Sign that they expect to open the road to Fallujah, and win at Fallujah relatively quickly, then proceed more slowly with Mehdi army.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 13:36 Comments || Top||

#7  ABC reports the Following

Coalition forces also have moved in to block the road between Kufa and Najaf, a senior aide to al-Sadr, Sheik Qays al-Khaz'ali, told the AP.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 16:28 Comments || Top||

#8  Thanks again, LH. Zeyad reports that Sistani has issued an anti-violence fatwa, and takes Sistani to task for not having done so earlier.
Posted by: Matt || 04/09/2004 16:42 Comments || Top||


Bremer orders ceasefire in Fallujah
Just reported by BBC World so no link. I’ll post a link as a comment when I find one.
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#1  The U.S. governor in Iraq said on Friday that U.S. forces had suspended military operations in the Sunni town of Fallujah at midday to facilitate humanitarian access and try to initiate talks with insurgents.

"As of noon today coalition forces have initiated a unilateral suspension of offensive operations in Fallujah to allow for a meeting between members of the Governing Council, local Muslim leadership and the leadership of anti-coalition forces," Paul Bremer told reporters. He said U.S. forces would also allow the relevant Iraqi ministries to deliver aid and other supplies and permit residents of Falluja to attend to their wounded and dead. He did not say how long the ceasefire would last in the town, west of Baghdad. A member of Iraq's U.S.-backed Governing Council said it would be in force for 24 hours. The U.S. military started a major offensive against Sunni insurgents in Fallujah early this week. The fighting has killed an estimated 300 Iraqis, according to hospital officials.


link
Posted by: Lux || 04/09/2004 4:56 Comments || Top||

#2 
I have very mixed feelings over any ceasefire in Fallujah. While there is honor among all soldiers, even with insurgents...sometimes a battle is joined where it is implicitly understood that there would be no quarter asked for or given. There may be things going on that we are unaware of, but this is a little surprising to me. (Think Sherman's march to the Sea and...his famous comment, "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."
Posted by: Traveller || 04/09/2004 5:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Trav, I think that was Lee's comment before Fredricksburg. Sherman said "war is hell." Paraphrase of the rest - "the crueler it is the quicker it will be over."
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 6:10 Comments || Top||

#4  And now there's a newsflash that the ceasefire is over, and the USMC are resuming the offensive.
Seems a very quick turnover, physcing out insurgents? or anything to do with this??
Posted by: Lux || 04/09/2004 6:10 Comments || Top||

#5  If it is true that the US Marines have already taken half the city, it would indicate that the CURRENT opposition fighters are no real threat. Today is Friday. Prayer day. AKA rouse the ragghead rabble day. Any action we take today may have a multiplying effect to the extent that sympathy for the fighters may broaden their ranks during the Friday "sermons". As long as the break in the fighting is not seen as weakness, it will do no harm. 24 hours will not make a difference in destroying what's left of the originals (including Syrians and Iranians).
Posted by: Dave || 04/09/2004 6:23 Comments || Top||

#6  heartbreaking photo of the Japanese woman. I guess there is little we can do but pray for her. These people belong in the past. How on earth did they survive into this Century?
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 7:45 Comments || Top||

#7  AP: U.S. Marines briefly halted offensive operations in Fallujah on Friday, but the suspension ended after only 90 minutes, a Marine commander said, apparently after negotiations with a city delegation fell through. Lt. Col. Brennan Byrne, commander of the 1st Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, said his forces were given the go-ahead to resume offensive operations. The halt was called at noon to allow a delegation from the city to meet with U.S. commanders, let humanitarian aid into the city and give city residents a chance to tend to their dead. Byrne did not know why the suspension was called off but believed the negotiations with the delegation never took place. It was not immediately known if offensive operations had actually resumed.
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 9:07 Comments || Top||

#8  I doubt there's one single entity that has the authority to conduct any negotiations on behalf of all the insurgents. Even Sadr-sack himself. It's more than just his faction.
Posted by: Dar || 04/09/2004 9:18 Comments || Top||

#9  I think the real intent was to give women, children and the elderly a chance to exit the city, before the big push into the residential areas takes place. Like what happened in Basra, in March 2003.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 9:39 Comments || Top||

#10  Spanish sources say that US and Spanish troops intercepted a convoy belongig to Sadr who was going from Nayaf to Kufa and instead of capturing/killing the bastards they simply forced them to return to Nayaf. They don't way and they don't who is the idiot who gave the order.
Posted by: JFM || 04/09/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#11  Dar: I've seen this mistake elsewhere; you -do- realize that Sadr is in the Shiite areas and not Fallujah, right? Baddies in Fallujah report to... I dunno, maybe Zarqawi.

Not that the two sets of nuts don't coordinate somewhat, but.
Posted by: someone || 04/09/2004 9:54 Comments || Top||

#12  "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it." Wasn't that Lee ?
Posted by: domingo || 04/09/2004 9:59 Comments || Top||

#13  After Chancellorsville?
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 10:15 Comments || Top||

#14  Yes, it was Lee & it was Fredricksburg as I said before.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 10:42 Comments || Top||

#15  someone--Ah, yes, thanks--I missed that. In any case, my point is that every two-bit beard with a funny hat is fielding his own militia, so there's really no central authority to negotiate with. So kill 'em all.
Posted by: Dar || 04/09/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#16  jh - oops
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 10:45 Comments || Top||


Gaming Out Iraq
Subscription required, so posting the whole article
Analysis
The United States is experiencing its greatest military crisis in Iraq since the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003. On the one hand, the Sunni guerrillas that the United States appeared to have defeated after the Ramadan offensive of October and November 2003 have not been destroyed. Although their role in triggering the March 31 attack against U.S. civilian contractors in Al Fallujah is an open question, they have benefited politically from the U.S. cordon around the city and have taken shots at distracted U.S. forces in the area, such as the U.S. Marines in Ar Ramadi. On the other hand, a Shiite militia led by young cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has launched an offensive in Baghdad and in a number of cities in Iraq’s south. U.S. intelligence expected none of this; L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Iraq, had scheduled a trip to Washington that he had to cancel hurriedly.

The offensives appear to challenge two fundamental strategic assumptions that were made by U.S. planners. The first was that, due to penetrations by U.S. intelligence, the Sunni insurgency was deteriorating and would not restart. The second, much more important assumption was that the United States had a strategic understanding with the Shiite leadership that it would contain anti-American military action south of Baghdad, and that -- and this is critical -- they would under no circumstances collaborate with the Sunnis. It now appears that these basic premises are being rendered false.

Obviously, the Sunni guerrillas are still around, at least in the Al Fallujah-Ar Ramadi corridor. U.S. efforts in that area of the Sunni Triangle are aimed at finding those responsible for the deaths and subsequent public mutilation of four U.S. civilian contractors March 31. Current U.S. operations might be in offensive mode -- suggesting that the Baathist guerrillas have yet to fully regroup -- but as the siege of Al Fallujah drags on, the potential grows for the insurgency to acquire sympathetic recruits. Equally obviously, some of the Shia have taken up arms against the United States, spreading the war to the region south of Iraq. Finally, there are some reports of Sunni-Shiite collaboration in the Baghdad area.

We might add that the outbreak west of Baghdad and the uprising in the south could have been coincidental, but if so, it was one amazing coincidence. Not liking coincidences ourselves -- and fully understanding the contingent events that led to al-Sadr’s decision to strike -- we have to wonder about the degree to which the events of the past week or so were planned.

If current trends accelerate, the United States faces a serious military challenge that could lead to disaster. The United States does not have the forces necessary to put down a broad-based Shiite rising and crush the Sunni rebellion as well. Even the current geography of the rising is beyond the capabilities of existing deployments or any practicable number of additional forces that might be made available. The United States is already withdrawing from some cities. The logical outcome of all of this would be an enclave strategy, in which the United States concentrates its forces -- in a series of fortified locations -- perhaps excluding Iraqi nationals -- and leaves the rest of the country to the guerrillas. That, of course, would raise the question of why the United States should bother to remain in Iraq, since those forces would not be able to exert effective force either inside the country or beyond its borders.

That would force a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. The consequences of such a withdrawal would be catastrophic for the U.S. grand strategy in the war against militant Islamists. One of the purposes of the war was to disprove al Qaeda’s assertion that the United States was actually militarily weak and that it could not engage in close combat in the Islamist world, certainly not in the face of a mass uprising. An American withdrawal would prove al Qaeda’s claims and would energize Islamists not only with hatred of the United States, but also -- and worse -- with contempt for American power. It would create the worst of all possible worlds for the United States. It follows that the United States is going to do everything it
can to abort this process.

It also might well be that the process -- as we have laid it out -- is faulty. The uprising in the Al Fallujah-Ar Ramadi corridor might have peaked already. The al-Sadr rising perhaps does not represent a reversal of Shiite strategic orientation, but is primarily a self-contained, internal event about al-Sadr’s relationship with other Shiite clergy. The reports of collaboration between Shia and Sunnis could be false or represent a small set of cases.

These are the issues on which the conflict and the future of the U.S. presence in Iraq turn. It is the hope of the guerrillas -- Sunni and Shiite -- to create a situation that compels a U.S. withdrawal, either from the country or into fortified enclaves; it is obviously the intention of the United States to prevent this.

The Sunni Threat
The Sunni part of the equation is the least threatening. If Sunni guerrillas have managed to regroup, it is disturbing that U.S. intelligence was unable to prevent the reorganization. But there is a very real silver lining in this: One of the ways the guerrillas might have been able to regroup without being detected was by doing it on a relatively small scale, limiting their organization to hundreds or even dozens of members.

Certainly, they have many more sympathizers than that, but a careful distinction must be drawn -- and is not being drawn by the media -- between sympathizers and guerrillas. Sympathizers can riot -- they can even generate an intifada -- but that is not the same as conducting guerrilla war. Guerrillas need a degree of training, weapons and organization.

The paradox of guerrilla war is that the more successful a guerrilla offensive, the more it opens the guerrillas to counteraction by the enemy. In order to attack, they must communicate, come out of hiding and converge on the target. At that moment, they can be destroyed and -- more important -- captured. Throwing a large percentage of a guerrilla force into an attack either breaks the enemy or turns into a guerrilla disaster.

The U.S. Marines west of Baghdad are not about to be broken. Therefore, if our assumption about the relative size of the guerrilla force and the high percentage that have been thrown into this operation is correct, this force will not be able to sustain the current level of operations much longer. If the guerrilla force is large enough to sustain such operations, then the U.S. intelligence failure is so huge as to be difficult to comprehend. Protests and riots are problems and create a strain on resources, but they do not fundamentally affect the ability of the United States to remain engaged in Iraq.

The Shiite Threat
It is not the Sunni offensive that represents a threat, it is the Shia. The question is simple: Does al-Sadr’s rising represent a fundamental shift in the Shiite community as a whole, or is it simply a small faction of the Shia that has risen? The U.S. command in Iraq has argued that al-Sadr represents a marginal movement, at odds with the dominant Shiite leadership, lashing out in a desperate attempt to change the internal dynamics of the Shiite community.

For this analysis to be correct, a single fact must be true: Ali al-Sistani, the grand ayatollah of the Iraqi Shia, is not only opposed to al-Sadr, but also remains committed to carrying out his basic bargain with the United States. If that is true, then all will be well for the Americans in the end. If it is wrong, then the worst-case scenarios have to be taken seriously.

The majority Iraqi Shiite population suffered greatly under the regime of Saddam Hussein, which was dominated by the Sunni minority. After the fall of Hussein, the Shia’s primary interest was in guaranteeing not only that a Sunni government would not re-emerge, but also that the future of Iraq would be in the hands of the Shia. This interest was shared by the Shia in Iran, who also wanted to see a Shiite government emerge in order to secure Iran’s frontier from its historical enemy, Iraq.

The first U.S. impulse after the fall of Baghdad was that Americans would govern Iraq indefinitely, on their terms -- and without compromising with Iranian sympathizers. That plan was blown out of the water by the unexpected emergence of a Sunni guerrilla force. The United States needed indigenous help. Even more than help, it needed guarantees that the Shia would not rise up and render the U.S. presence in Iraq untenable.

The United States and the Shiite elites -- Iranian and Iraqi -- reached an accommodation: The United States guaranteed the Shia a democratic government, which meant that the majority Shia would dominate -- and the Shia maintained the peace in the south. They did not so much collaborate with the Americans as maintain a peace that permitted the United States to deal with the Sunnis. The end state of all of this was to be a Shiite government that would permit some level of U.S. forces to remain indefinitely in Iraq.

As the Sunni rising subsided, the United States felt a decreased dependency on the Shia. The transitional Iraqi government that is slated to take power June 30 would not be an elected government, but rather a complex coalition of groups -- including Shia, Kurds and Sunnis, as well as small ethnic groups -- that would be constituted so as to give all the players a say in the future. In other words, the Shia would not get a Shiite-dominated government June 30.

It was for this reason that al-Sistani began to agitate for direct elections. He knew that the Shia would win that election and that this was the surest path to direct Shiite power. Washington argued there was not enough time for direct elections -- a claim that was probably true -- but which the Shia saw as the United States backpedaling on fundamental agreements. The jury-rigged system the Americans wanted in place for a year would give the Sunnis a chance to recover -- not the sort of recovery the Shia wanted to see. Moreover, the Shia observed the quiet romance between the United States and some key Sunni tribal leaders after the capture of Hussein, and their distrust of long- term U.S. motives grew.

Al-Sistani made it clear that he did not trust the transitional plan and that he did not believe it protected Shiite interests or represented American promises. The United States treated al-Sistani with courtesy and respect but made it clear that it was not planning to change its position.

In the meantime, a sea change had taken place in Iranian politics, with a conservative government driving the would-be reformers out of power. The conservatives did not object to the deal with the United States, but they wanted to be certain that the United States did not for a moment believe that the Iranians were acting out of weakness. The continual hammering by the United States on the nuclear issue with Iran convinced the Iranians that the Washington did not fully appreciate the position it was in.

As Iranian Expediency Council chief and former President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani bluntly put it Feb. 24: "They continue to send us threatening messages and continue to raise the four questions," referring to Washington’s concerns about Iran’s nuclear program, opposition to the Middle East peace process, alleged support of militant groups and human rights. "But they are stuck in the mud in Iraq, and they know that if Iran wanted to, it could make their problems even worse."

Al-Sistani did not want the June 30 transition to go forward on U.S. terms. The Iranians did not want the United States to think it had Iran on the defensive. A confrontation with the United States under these circumstances was precisely what was in both al-Sistani and Iran’s interests. Both wanted to drive home to the Americans that they held power in Iraq and that the United States was there at the sufferance of the Shia. The United States had forgotten its sense of desperation during the Sunni Ramadan offensive, and the Shia needed to remind them -- but they needed to do so without a rupture with Washington, which was, after all, instrumental to their long-term plans.

Al-Sadr was the perfect instrument. He was dangerous, deniable and manageable. U.S. officials have expressed surprise that al-Sadr -- who they did not regard highly -- was able to create such havoc. Obviously, al-Sistani could have dealt with al-Sadr if and when he wished. But for the moment, al-Sistani didn’t wish. He wanted to show the Americans the abyss they faced if they continued on the path to June 30 without modifying the plan.

The Americans have said al-Sistani has not been helpful in this crisis. He is not ready to be helpful and won’t be until a more suitable understanding is reached with the United States. He will act in due course because it is not in al-Sistani’s interests to allow al-Sadr to become too strong. Quite the contrary: Al- Sistani runs the risk that the situation will get so far out of hand that he will not be able to control it either. But al-Sistani is too strong for al-Sadr to undermine, and al-Sadr is, in fact, al-Sistani’s pawn. Perhaps more precisely, al-Sadr is al-Sistani’s ace in the hole. Having played him, al-Sistani will be as interested in liquidating al-Sadr’s movement as the United States is -- once Washington has modified its plans for a postwar Iraq.

The worst-case scenario is not likely to happen. The Sunni guerrillas are not a long-term threat. The Shia are a long-term threat, but their interests are not in war with the United States, but in achieving a Shiite-dominated Iraqi state as quickly as possible -- without giving the United States an opportunity to double-cross them. Al-Sistani demanded elections and didn’t get them. What he really wants is a different transition process that gives the Shia more power. After the past week, he is likely to get it. And Washington will not soon forget who controls Iraq.

This will pass. But the strategic reality of the U.S. forces in Iraq is permanent. Those forces are there because of the sufferance of the Iraqi Shia. The Shia know it, and they want the Americans to know it. With Washington planning an offensive in Pakistan, the last thing it needs is to pump more forces into Iraq. In due course, al-Sistani will become helpful, but the price will be even higher than before.
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#1  technical question : is it allowed to post subscription based articles like this (cf. copyright).. I just like to know so I can start post these analysis as well..
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 4:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Any US withdrawl will result in at least one of; a civil war, an Iranian invasion, a Turkish invasion. Oil would go to well $50 a barrel and the world economy would experience a massive 1930s style slump. Oh and China would invade Siberia.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/09/2004 4:42 Comments || Top||

#3  And Kurdistan going independent. I think Kurds deserve a country. They arent crazy like Palestinians.
Posted by: Anonymous4075 || 04/09/2004 6:34 Comments || Top||

#4  I didn't find this analysis to be that impressive. He doesn't seem to ever consider the possiblity that we will put down this rebellion and that we can turn over the power to the Iraqi's.

I guesss he thinks the Iraqi's are too stupid or too incompetent for that to happen. Maybe he's right, but with the overwhelming pessimism that oozes from this piece, nothing positive would EVER be possible.

I prefer to go forward with the assumption that the Iraqi's are functioning human beings that do not need the UN or US to act like their mommy's for ever and ever, in order to function as a society.

While it's interesting...I quite frankly think this piece is so negative and pessimistic that - not only does it suck - but it's too negative to be useful.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 7:56 Comments || Top||

#5  plus...I take issue with this key piece of his analysis:

Perhaps more precisely, al-Sadr is
al-Sistani’s ace in the hole. Having played him, al-Sistani will be as interested in liquidating al-Sadr’s movement as the United
States is -- once Washington has modified its plans for a postwar
Iraq.


First...in order for democracy to work in Iraq...it has to be a democracy. Therefore, the Sunni's Kurds and others need a voice. Otherwise we are wasting our time and we will have just created another Iran.

It is in Sisttani's long term interests to cooperate with the United States and I think it is a mistake of the Bremer types to pander to his desire to be the next king of Iraq. Sure, we need him, but he needs us. We are far more lethal than we have been to date. We are far from being stuck in the mud. If we REALLY wanted to, we could take off the gloves - we just don't see the need to yet.

This analysis panders to Al Sistiani and gives him more credit than is his due. I think that is a critical mistake. This guy wrote an interesting and informed piece, but that is simply a false assumption ...he's wrong.

We don't have to modify our plans to allow the people of Iraq to have a free democracy. Just because this yahoo thinks so, doesn't make it fact.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 8:25 Comments || Top||

#6 
Posting subscription articles is inviting trouble.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/09/2004 8:46 Comments || Top||

#7  at B 2004 : this is a Stratfor.com analysis.
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 9:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Tyot
Re this subscription
Yes it's OK
It's a free weekly newsletter.
They say "Please feel free to send the Stratfor Weekly to a friend or colleague."
However if you subscribe, you will have to wait one week for the first newsletter.
I just short-circuited that for you.
However I would recommend that you go to the Stratfor site and sign up for their newsleter.
It's free.


Posted by: tipper || 04/09/2004 9:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Tipper,
I'm already a Stratfor subscriber.. I hadn't thought of the possibility that this was a free newsletter..You are right..

Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 9:16 Comments || Top||

#10  Iyot - I realized that when I wrote it. But unless Strafor is supposed to take the most negative view possible (maybe it is, I don't know) I still stand by what I said.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 9:16 Comments || Top||

#11  and furthemore...just cause it's on official letterhead...it is still just opinion of some staff weenies somewhere. I don't agree with it....and I don't think the Bush Administration operates under the can't-do philosophy represented by their opinion as expressed in that article. JMHO.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 9:24 Comments || Top||

#12  I'm not nearly as impressed by Stratfor as I used to be.

I remember in late '01, just after the liberation of Kabul, they came out with a piece on how the Taliban had us right where they wanted us, the withdrawal to Kandahar was a trap, and so on: it was a perfect synthesis of pessimistic conventional wisdom ("the brutal Afghan winter," "the mighty Pashtun, humbler of empires," etc., all the stuff Mark Steyn is so good at skewering). It was also dead-ass wrong from start to finish.

I'd put Stratfor in the same category as Debka: keep the salt handy.
Posted by: Mike || 04/09/2004 9:27 Comments || Top||

#13  I agree with Mike. The strategists seem to require the facts to fit their worldview rather than the opposite - similar to politicians and philosophers.
Posted by: mhw || 04/09/2004 9:42 Comments || Top||

#14  i agree with Mike - Stratfor's thinking is insightful, and their scenarios are always plausible, but usually without much solid evidence.

Re this - theyre almost certainly right that Sistani will attempt to milk the Sadr situation for whatever he can get. He may have deliberately let Sadr run wild, to press the US, or he may have feared the consequences of using his own power to crush Sadr. Thats a state of mind question, and something we will probably NEVER know, as Sistani will probably take the secret to his grave. As for the pre-rebellion maneuverings, that sounds pretty accurate, though im not sure about the importance of US relations with Sunni tribal leaders. There IS a school of thought that Bremer has been getting TOO close to Sunni tribal leaders, at the expense of more genuine democractic forces - you will note not only Chalabi going over to Sistani, but sympathy for the Shiite position from pro neo-con Jim Hoagland of the Washington Post, and from the Weekly Standard. Yes minority rights need to be assured, but not by giving sunni tribal leaders who worked with Saddam veto over the future of Iraq.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 9:54 Comments || Top||

#15  I am curious as to why Sistani would not immediately denounce the taking of civilian hostages. Also, frankly, the whole idea of substantive pre April 04 Sistani-Sadr coordination is shaky; Sistani could be that stupid but I doubt it. More likely, both men are being driven by agendas that they partially control and partially don't.
Posted by: mhw || 04/09/2004 10:12 Comments || Top||

#16  This analysis is 50% reasonable and 50% drek. Just look at a map. Iran now has US-Western troops based in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pakistan is at least nominally a US ally. Turkey is neutral, but a NATO ally. Across the Persian Gulf, Kuwait and the Emirates host major US bases. And the Saudis probably fear the Persians more than they hate the Americans.

Bottom Line : The Iranians and their Syrian satellite will do anything and everything to make the US occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan untenable. There is zero (0) incentive for Iran to halt its nuclear weapons program.

The article has a strange closing paragraph:

But the strategic reality of the U.S. forces in
Iraq is permanent. Those forces are there because of the
sufferance of the Iraqi Shia.


The first sentence makes the second sentence non sequitor, and doesn't take into account having permanence depend on the whims of the US Congress and successive Administrations. In addition to that, Sistani is an old man, and no matter what his personal opinions may be, they are not long for this world.

There will be no peace (or the semblance thereof) until regime changes take place in Syria and Iran.
Posted by: mrp || 04/09/2004 10:27 Comments || Top||

#17  well, i reckon their analysis is most of the time insightfull.. I didn't find this piece pessimistic really.. In the end, there are not saying anything else than Sistani is using Sadr to promote Shia interests...
Posted by: Anonymous4102 || 04/09/2004 10:28 Comments || Top||

#18  Wretchard is a lot briefer and a lot more sensible.

Stratfor has been Chicken Little from 9/12.
Posted by: someone || 04/09/2004 10:41 Comments || Top||

#19  mrp...agreed. I too thought the final paragraph was just hanging out there like some sort of wierd random thoughts each having little correlation to each other or the article itself.

I think you nailed it 50% reasonable - 50% drek.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 10:42 Comments || Top||

#20  mhw: remember that Sistani, as has been noted here before, has no private army.
Posted by: someone || 04/09/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#21  and Badr forces, aren't they controlled by Sistani's people ?
Posted by: Anonymous4102 || 04/09/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#22  someone - yes thats good

note this

The most important thing about force is for it to be controlled force, guided by a intelligence and political goal. And the great thing about CENTCOM so far is they have not let their legs get ahead of their brains.

Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||

#23  Someone - thanks.

Raise up all Iraq. Uh, huh. That's easier said than done.

What they can't get past is that the Iraqi people think the idea of living in a representative republic like the US is just fine with them.

Now that was interesting and insightful article and he probably wrote it for free. How much do I pay for those cowering Stratfor analysts anyway. Too much, I'd say.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#24  oh...and someone...that Sistani, as has been noted here before, has no private army.

that too is interesting....wish I understood the implications of that better than I do.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 11:15 Comments || Top||

#25  I thought sadr was in exile in Iran during saddam's rule. I think he was a loose cannon trying to make a name for himself. Prolly thinks he's got mass support from Iran. I'm sure Iran let him think so also. A useful idiot but soon of no consequence. If any coordination took place it was prolly due to Iranian cadres, or exiled Shia that have been salted about.

I can't blame Sistani for being shrewed.
Posted by: Lucky || 04/09/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#26  Lucky...hmmm...Freudian slip?? Did you mean shrewd or did you hit accidently hit the h instead of a c? If he's not careful - it will be the latter.
Posted by: B || 04/09/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||

#27  Someone,

Didn't somebody make the same observation about the Pope? What happened to that country?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 04/09/2004 11:37 Comments || Top||

#28  I just saw the pope...he was mumbling about something....no offense to Catholics or Christianity intended.

I think that's a great idea. Let's give Al Sistani a nice block of land in Baghdad with his own post office, currency and throne. We can even promise him a Mullah Mobile. Hey...it's what he wants....adoring crowds, pilgrims and a little palace all to himself. What is the cost of a square mile of land in Baghdad anyway? It's got to be cheaper than any of the other alternatives.

I like it.
Posted by: anon || 04/09/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#29  This is a very simplistic and misleading analysis. The only reason to read it is because it comes from an organization which makes a claim to insight. However, the hollowness of that claim is on display in this analysis. It illustrates why I dropped my subscription to Stratfor. I agree with B's opinion of the analysis in comment #4. The reality is that Muqtada Sadr does not command respect in Iraq, beyond his immediate followers and (possibly) young unemployed hotheads. Sadr has no political orgnaization, only his private army of thugs. By calling for calm, Sistani has spoken against a general uprising. So, it appears that the situation is not spinning out of control. It appears that the CPA took some effort to provoke Muqtada to take rash action -- first by closing his newspaper and then by issuing a murder arrest warrant. Bottom line - Muqtada Sadr has been a thorn in the Coalition's side for the past year -- now he been provoked to make the mistakes which will allow the Coalition to take action against him prior to the handover in June.
Posted by: Scenario A || 04/09/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#30  This article does not cover the main theater of operations, which is American public opinion. The Iraqis (e.g., Zeyad) who really want a free country with a representative form of government need to scrape together every nickel they can and start running commercials and newspaper ads thanking the American people and asking them to stay the course. Bloggers and the military aside, all the public is seeing right now is the usual "All Is Lost" horse puckey that CNN and the NYT delight in showing. One thirty-second spot from an Iraqi child thanking America for getting her father out of Saddam's prison would be equal in effect to deploying another brigade.
Posted by: Matt || 04/09/2004 12:32 Comments || Top||

#31  I have read otherwise with regard to Sistani having a private army. I would be very surprised if he did not. One key point in this article is the statement by Rafsanjani. There is no doubt that Iran is behind what is going on in the South. It is quite possible that they are acting as the go-between building the cooperative relationships between Sunni and Shiite rebels. MRP is exactly right when he says that there will be no real stability until there is regime change in Iraq.
Posted by: remote man || 04/09/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#32  There is also a piece in the WSJ oped page that says many of the same things regarding cause for the troubles in the South being the constitution and the inability for the Shiites to gain complete power.
Posted by: remote man || 04/09/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||

#33  1. regarding Sistanis "army" he does have security guards, but AFAIK no mass militia. The Badr brigades, however, aligned with the Shiite party SCIRI, are fairly close to Sistani, as is SCIRI and its leadership.
2. WRT Stratfor saying things are spinning out of control - yup they say that, then go on to say that it may not be as bad as all that,etc. Read it closely and in full. This is called covering all bases, and is the stock in trade of research institutes, consultants, etc. If one relies on their final judgement one will be disappointed. If, OTOH, one takes advantage of specific insights, one may profit from them.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#34  This Stratfor analysis also misses what was pointed out yesterday, that Sistani probably is not currently free to speak his mind. It's a pretty big mistake, IMHO.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 04/09/2004 13:32 Comments || Top||

#35  There's also a battle for Iraqi public opinion which is not being covered. Zeyad may or may not be representative of Iraqi public opinion. A lot of Iraqis seem to just want 1) no foreign occupation 2) their own faction to control the country. That they would only wind up with 3) another Saddam is something they are apparently incapable of figuring out.
Posted by: Tresho || 04/09/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#36  The article strikes me as odd, it comes off like a late night term paper written by two authors.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/09/2004 14:07 Comments || Top||

#37  re: Badr forces .. Weren't they the ones who stood up for Sistani last year in spring when Muqtada tried to control some of the holy shrines in Kerbala or Najaf (I forgot which one.)..
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#38  #30 Matt

I like your idea, at least, it should be given a try. However, I think that it would be nice to help out, Iraqis loke Zeyad may not have as many nickels as needed to pull that off. How about setting a tip jar for that purpose?
Posted by: rsd || 04/09/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||

#39  loke=like

preview! (writing it 100 times on a scrap of paper)
Posted by: rsd || 04/09/2004 14:57 Comments || Top||

#40  rsd, I sure wouldn't mind helping out (and in fact I would be surprised if Karl Rove doesn't have a couple of ads like that already in the can for political reasons) but for maximum effect the effort's got to come from the Iraqis themselves, presumably at the GC level for financial reasons.

Here's an April 9 post from Iraq the Model:

"A year ago, words failed me as I met the 1st American soldier, and I still remember his name, ?corporal, Adam? and all I could utter was ?thank you!? how could I ever put my whole life in few words? How could I have thanked that soldier enough? How could I have told him what it meant to me to see him and his comrades-who brought me back to life- at last? Thank you Adam, Lieutenant Antonio, Captain Brian Curtis and all the coalition soldiers who I can?t remember their names, and those I never met."

Tresho, I have no idea how representative Zeyad is, but having come this far I'd like to give the Iraqis the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: Matt || 04/09/2004 16:37 Comments || Top||

#41  According to the press, being supremely qualified military experts - the evidence is quite clear on this point, the enemy always has us preciely where he wants us and we're screwed. That's why we have lost every war where we didn't listen to them, and won the only one in which we did.

Not.
Posted by: .com || 04/09/2004 20:03 Comments || Top||

#42  Mr. Davis,
Didn't somebody make the same observation about the Pope?

Stalin. "How many divisions does the Pope have?"

What happened to that country?

It was eventually defeated.
But not by the Pope.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 04/09/2004 20:06 Comments || Top||

#43  Angie,

Oh, the Pope had nothing to do with the defeat of the Soviet Union? You might want to check with Lech Walensa about that. It would be tough to think of anyone who had more to do with the downfall of the USSR than Reagan and JPII.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 04/09/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||

#44  Gotta agree with Mr. D - The Pope didn't tip the change, but was the proverbial camel's nose under the tent - that was the reason the Bulgariand had the hit on him arranged - at the behest of their Soviet masters. Poland WAS the tipping point, and along with Reagan standing tough with intermediate missiles, spending them into the dustbin with Navy, other improvements, they fell...of course, only IMHO :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 21:08 Comments || Top||


Two Palestinians kidnapped in Iraq
Insurgents in Iraq have kidnapped two Palestinians with Israeli identity cards and accused them of spying for Israel, according to footage shown by an Iranian TV station. One of the abductees said in the videotape aired yesterday that he worked for RTI International, a North Carolina research institute under contract from the US Agency for International Development (USAID) to participate in the reconstruction of Iraq. Iran’s Al-Alam television, monitored in Israel, showed footage of the two men, identifying them as Nabil George Yaakob Razuq and Ahmed Yassin Tikati. It said they had been kidnapped by the Ansar a-Din group. "We are a religious faction," a masked man said in the tape.
We guessed that.
"We have captured spies who belong to the Zionist enemy, and we demand the immediate release of all the prisoners who belong to the religious factions (in Iraq), especially the women. We will negotiate over these two captives." The videotape also showed an Israeli identity card, an Israeli health service provider’s card, an Israeli driver’s licence, a driving licence issued by the US state of Georgia and a student card from Augusta College in Georgia. "I am Nabil George Yaakob, an Israeli working for RTI," a frightened-looking Razuk said in the videotape, giving his age as 30. He said he worked for RTI. Relatives in East Jerusalem told reporters he had attended university in Georgia. Tikati, who also looked terrified, made a similar "confession", and said he was 33 years old.

Israeli cabinet minister Gideon Ezra said both men were residents of East Jerusalem. "They are not Israeli citizens," he told Israel’s Channel Two television. "They are not couriers or agents of the (Israeli intelligence service) Mossad." But Ezra said Israel would try through diplomatic means to get them "out of the clutches of evil". Palestinians from East Jerusalem, annexed by Israel after its capture along with the West Bank in the 1967 Middle East war, are issued with Israeli identity cards. They are eligible for Israeli citizenship, although few apply for it. Asked by Channel Two if he had a message for the kidnappers, Razuq’s uncle, Anton, said in Arabic: "We have been living under Israeli occupation since 1967. Like other Arabs in East Jerusalem, we have Israeli identity cards. . .that doesn’t mean we have any attachment to (Israel)." Earlier, seven South Koreans, three Japanese and a Briton were reported have been seized in Iraq by militants. The Koreans were later reported to have been released.
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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Yasser sez they're innocent, of being jews that is:
Palestinian President Yasser Arafat personally intervened on Friday to seek the release of two Palestinians kidnapped by insurgents in Iraq, his office said. "President Arafat has contacted our brothers in Iraq and other international bodies and friends today to help in releasing the two kidnapped Palestinians, Nabil George Razuq and Ahmed Yassin Tikati, both held in Iraq," a statement said. Accused by their captors of spying for the Jewish state, they were shown on Iranian television on Thursday along with Israeli identity cards, which Israel issues to East Jerusalem residents. An Israeli official denied any government links to the two. Razuq's family also denied he was an Israeli agent and said he had gone to Iraq to help fellow Arabs. Razuq is employed by Research Triangle International (RTI), a North Carolina-based, independent non-profit organization that has a major reconstruction contract in Iraq.

One: I'm sure they'll be quickly released as soon as the Iraqi terrorists receive word that they are fellow oppressed muslims.
Two: RTI has some explaining to do about it's hiring practices.
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 9:20 Comments || Top||

#3  I guess Jihadis expect spies to have ID cards that say "ZIONIST SPY".
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 04/09/2004 9:31 Comments || Top||

#4  They're both Arabs and at least one of them is Christian, according to Ha'aretz.
Posted by: Dar || 04/09/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#5  It's been a decade since I worked in the Research Triangle area, so I'm not sure what RTI was contracted to do. But both RTI and UNC Chapel Hill's B-school were doing a lot of work in transportation hubs, trans-shipping etc. when I was there.

The National Institutes of Environmental Health are in the research triangle too ... RTI might have some people working on environmental health issues (serious pollution, health surveys ahead of planned health care progrsm etc.) but if I had to guess (being out of the current loop a lot) I'd guess these guys were doing innocuous transport planning.

Posted by: rkb || 04/09/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Israeli cabinet minister Gideon Ezra said both men were residents of East Jerusalem.

"They are not Israeli citizens," he told Israel’s Channel Two television. "They are not couriers or agents of the (Israeli intelligence service) Mossad."

But Ezra said Israel would try through diplomatic means to get them "out of the clutches of evil".


I'm hoping everyone noticed that Israel beat Yasser to the punch about intervening on this issue. Regardless of partisan politics, Israel stepped up to the plate in defense of these captives. Anyone want to bet that Arafat would have done this if the hostages were actually Jewish? Face the question squarely.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 17:47 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:49 Comments || Top||

#8 
Well, this is sure an interesting situation.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester TROLL || 04/09/2004 8:49 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
Toe tag for Chechen suicide bomber trainer
Federal troops have killed Abu-Bakr Bizimbayev, the Chechen separatist allegedly responsible for training the female suicide bombers who took part in the Dubrovka theater siege, RIA Novosti has reported. Bisimbayev was a personal bodyguard for top field commander Shamil Basayev, the agency quoted Ilya Shabalkin, a representative from the anti-terrorist headquarters in the North Caucasus, as saying. Basayev was linked to the hostage takeover of the Nord-Ost musical theater which resulted in the death of 130 people. His bodyguard chose female suicide bombers for terror attacks in Russia and Chechnya, he said. Bisimbayev was personally responsible for training the Ganiyev sisters, who took part in the theater seige in October of 2002.
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Al-Qaeda financing Chechen jihad
Whoever woulda guessed that?
World extremist organizations have allocated around ten million dollars to ringleaders of Chechen illegal armed formations, spokesman for the North Caucasus headquarters in charge of the anti-terrorist operation Colonel Ilya Shabalkin told Itar-Tass on Thursday. The information is based on a testimony given by militants who were either detained or gave themselves up to the federal authorities. The funds, intended for the illegal formations headed by Shamil Basayev and Abu Al-Valid, were allocated by foreign Muslim organizations for Jihad against the unfaithful that had close links with Al-Qaeda. As much as 90 percent of the money has never reached Chechnya because it was invested elsewhere by militants’ ringleaders who have long been staying abroad, or invested by Basayev and Abu Al-Valid through their accomplices into businesses far beyond Chechnya, Shabalkin said. Thus, no more than 500,000 U.S. dollars, most of which were presumably false banknotes, have actually reached Chechnya. Separatists’ ringleaders of a lower rank who are still in hiding in highland areas of Chechnya, Shabalkin said, appropriated most of the money.
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#1  As much as 90 percent of the money has never reached Chechnya because it was invested elsewhere by militants’ ringleaders who have long been staying abroad, or invested by Basayev and Abu Al-Valid through their accomplices into businesses far beyond Chechnya, Shabalkin said.

Thus, no more than 500,000 U.S. dollars, most of which were presumably false banknotes, have actually reached Chechnya. Separatists’ ringleaders of a lower rank who are still in hiding in highland areas of Chechnya, Shabalkin said, appropriated most of the money.


[Frink-O-Matic irony meter explodes in background]

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 2:17 Comments || Top||

#2  The information is based on a testimony given by militants who were either detained or gave themselves up to the federal authorities

hmm, sounds thrustworthy..
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 4:23 Comments || Top||


Chechen moneyman bagged
Police have detained a courier carrying a large sum of foreign currency to the rebel groups led by Abu al Walid and Shamil Basayev, representative of the regional headquarters for the anti-terrorist campaign in the North Caucasus Col. Ilya Shabalkin said. He said the police had confiscated $180,000 from Madina Atabayeva, born in 1960. $140,000 were counterfeit, and $40,000 were genuine, he said. The police have information that dollars transferred from abroad are being exchanged for counterfeit money in neighboring countries, possibly, Turkey, Azerbaijan or Georgia, Shabalkin said.
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Kadyrov negotiating with Maskhadov for surrender
Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov said Wednesday that he has been negotiating with rebel leader Aslan Maskhadov, telling him to surrender and give up the separatist fight, Russian news agencies reported. Kadyrov also repeated that he would request a pardon for Maskhadov - a fugitive accused of terrorism by Moscow - if the separatist former Chechen president surrenders to him personally. "I told him the only way for him to survive is to come voluntarily, bow down low and beg from his soul for the forgiveness of his people," Kadyrov told journalists in the Chechen city of Gudermes. Kadyrov said he was speaking with Maskhadov by phone, Itar-Tass reported. However, in comments shown on national television, Kadyrov said his dialogue with Maskhadov had been conducted through the media. Interfax said Kadyrov denied he had spoken by phone with Maskhadov in recent years. Kadyrov said he believes Maskhadov will not surrender while influential rebel warlord Shamil Basayev is alive.
Mainly because Shamil would kill him...
Kadyrov has been boasting of Maskhadov's weakening position following some rebel surrenders, claiming it points to increasing stability in Chechnya. President Vladimir Putin has ruled out peace talks with Maskhadov and the rebel leader is wanted by federal law enforcement agencies.
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Iraq-Jordan
Sadr in control of 2 cities, general summary of Iraq situation
Iraqi insurgents fought U.S. troops at two mosques in Fallujah and held sway over all or part of three southern cities in the worst chaos and violence since Baghdad fell a year ago Friday. In an ominous turn, kidnappers seized a dozen foreign hostages and threatened to burn three Japanese captives alive if Tokyo did not withdraw its troops.
But rumor has it the three are actually collaborating with their captors. That'll probably last until the gasoline comes out...
A Marine died Thursday in Fallujah, the Sunni stronghold west of Baghdad. That brought to U.S. death toll across Iraq this week to 40.
On the other hand, the number of enemy deaders is pushing 500...
L. Paul Bremer, the chief U.S. administrator of Iraq, warned Shiite pilgrims to beware of danger this weekend at their shrines, recalling the deadly bombings in Karbala and Baghdad that killed nearly 150 during celebrations last month.
I won't turn a hair if they're slaughtered in droves. They don't have the attention span to justify any concern on my part.
TV pictures aired in the Middle East by the Al-Jazeera satellite network and rebroadcast during prime time in Japan showed the three Japanese hostages — two aid workers and a journalist — wide-eyed and moaning in terror as their black-clad captors held knives to their throats, shouting God is Great in Arabic. The Japanese government called the abductions "unforgivable" but said they did not justify withdrawal of its 530 troops doing reconstruction work in the south.
When terrorists give orders to governments, civilization falls apart...
Two Arab aid workers from Jerusalem — one who had once lived in Georgia — were abducted in a separate incident. Eight South Korean Christian missionaries were seized by gunmen outside Baghdad. Seven were freed after one of them escaped, the Foreign Ministry in Seoul said.
Taking hostages is usually a sign that the bad guys can see the end in sight...
Marines battled insurgents firing automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades in continued heavy fighting at two mosques in Fallujah. U.S. forces have surrounded the city 35 miles west of Baghdad, but opened the blockade for a convoy carrying food and medicine sent by Sunni clerics in Baghdad. The U.S. military, meanwhile, reported the deaths of three 1st Infantry Division soldiers on Wednesday and Thursday in attacks by Sunni insurgents — though the circumstances and day of each death were not provided. The Army said a fourth soldier died from wounds received in an attack last week. In Najaf, a policeman watched helplessly on Thursday as a pickup truck carrying a dozen heavily armed Shiite militiamen went past his police station — already in the militia's hands. "Look, how can we control such a situation?" he asked an Associated Press reporter.
Why are you a policeman?
Still, U.S. administrators insist they are making both political and military progress. U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi is in Iraq, trying to establish a system to pick an interim Iraqi government. And Marine commanders said they were winning the fight for Fallujah. "The mission is going particularly well. We made inroads into the city and we are driving the enemy resistance back," said Marine Lt. Col. Greg Olsen. "We're winning every firefight."
Make sure you stack the bodies where the Bad Guys can see them really well...
In the south, the al-Sadr's al-Mahdi Army militia had full control in the cities of Kut and Kufa and in the central part of Najaf. Police in the cities have abandoned their stations or stood aside as the gunmen roam the streets.
They'll have to be taken back. And the cops fired.
Iraq's interior minister, who leads police and security forces, resigned Thursday at Bremer's request to maintain balance between Sunni and Shiite factions on the governing council. It was unclear if Nuri al-Badran was forced out because the police were not performing their duties, but he had complained of divided loyalties.
Time to choose which side you're on, buddy...
Al-Sadr, reportedly holed up in his office in Najaf, attempted to rally Iraqis — including Sunnis — behind him. "This ordeal has shown that all the Iraqi people are united," he said in a statement issued by his office.
It's also showing how mortal so many of them are...
Al-Sadr's force remains unpopular with most Shiites because it is too radical. And so far, there has been little sign of a widespread support for the movement or a surge to join the fight against the Americans.
That's probably a good thing. We're kind of busy at the moment.
Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. general in Iraq, acknowledged Thursday there appeared to be links "at the lowest levels" between al-Sadr's Shiite militia and the Sunni Arab insurgency. Sanchez vowed that coalition forces would move "imminently" to break al-Sadr's hold over Kut, 95 miles southeast of Baghdad, and destroy his militia throughout the country in a new operation named "Resolute Sword." Sanchez would not say whether U.S. forces would move into southern Iraq to help troops from allied nations whose soldiers control the vast stretch of land reaching to the Persian Gulf. Ukrainian troops in Kut abandoned their base Wednesday in the face of mortar fire and gunbattles, allowing al-Mahdi Army fighters to sweep in, seize weapons and plant their flag.
That's egg on their faces. If they can't rectify the situation then we'll have to.
Sanchez said the presence of thousands of Shiite pilgrims in Najaf this weekend was hampering coalition forces from moving against militiamen who hold police stations and are in the streets around Shiite shrines in the city center. Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims are in southern cities, particularly Karbala, ahead of al-Arbaeen ceremonies this weekend to mark the end of the period of mourning for a 7th-century martyred Shiite saint.
Then throw them the hell out. Where were they this time last year? And how many of the bastards we're fighting are "pilgrims"?
In Baghdad, U.S. forces have battled nightly with the al-Mahdi Army militia in its Sadr City stronghold. Before dawn Thursday, a U.S. helicopter fired on the al-Sadr office, wounding an unknown number of Iraqis and causing heavy damage. Polish and Bulgarian soldiers drove off Shiites who attacked them near the municipal hall in Karbala during all-night battles, a Polish spokesman said.
Better troops than the Ukes? Or just not in quite so untenable a position?
In Fallujah, U.S. Marines battled for a second day to seize a mosque that officers say insurgents used as a fire base. Marines called in tanks and warplanes to pound the Sunni gunmen. By nightfall, the American force seized the Abdel-Aziz al-Samarrai mosque for the second night in a row. Heavy fighting also broke out around another mosque, al-Khulafa, which witnesses said U.S. forces seized. A Marine sniper climbed up the minaret and fired down on gunmen, who shot back with rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons, witnesses said. Four tanks moved in around the al-Khulafa mosque, followed by troops in Humvees and on foot. They fought gunmen until shooting died down around nightfall.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 04/09/2004 1:44:14 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Damn. Another M1A1 disabled by RPG. I hope the crew are Ok. They looked pretty roughed up.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/09/2004 2:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims are in southern cities, particularly Karbala, ahead of al-Arbaeen ceremonies this weekend to mark the end of the period of mourning for a 7th-century martyred Shiite saint.

Stick around boys and girls. We'll have lots more martyrs for you to revere in just a few days.

PS: Make sure and get a good close look at those mosques while you're in town. They may not be there when you get back next year.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 4:32 Comments || Top||

#3  just wait and see if the iran trys to smuggle forces and weapons in with the pilgrims.

Bush should come out and say we know it is iran behind the recent surge and we hold iran accountable. forget about nukes - if this continues we will go into iran. more likley than not this will end faster than it started.
Posted by: Dan || 04/09/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||


Italian security report sez Sadr's taking orders from Khamenei
Iraqi Shiite leader Moqtada Sadr, who is directing a widespread armed uprising against the coalition forces in Baghdad and southern Iraq, receives his orders directly from the office of the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, Italian foreign intelligence organization, Servizio per le Informazioni e la Sicurezza Militare (SISMI), a unit of the Italian defense ministry, said today in a report to the Italian parliament. The report, which prompted a call to foreign minister Kamal Kharrazi by Italian foreign minister Franco Frattini, said without political, financial and military support from the Supreme Leader, Moqtada Sadr and his al-Mahdi brigade could not have mounted their multiple, simultaneous attacks. Italian foreign minister asked Kharrazi to do what he can to put an end to the deadly clashes in Iraq.

Agents of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corp and the Quds special forces have infiltrated Iraq in the past months and have organized and armed Moqta Sadr's al-Mahdi brigade, SISMI said in its report. The Iranian agents work under the cover of several religious charity organizations in Sadr city in Baghdad and in the Shiite cities of Karbala, Najaf and Kufa. Iran is spending $70 million per month to support these front organizations. The Supreme Leader has sent cleric Mohammad-Hossein Haeri to coordinate the efforts that are aimed at pushing the coalition forces out of Iraq, according to Italian daily La Stampa, which adds that, with that goal in mind, Sadr's al-Mahdi brigade has been attacking the Italian, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish and Portuguese forces in Iraq. In his mission in Iraq, Haeri represents Qum-based senior Iraqi Shiite religious leader Ayatollah Kazem Haeri. Two Iranian intelligence officers who have recently defected to Britain have given the British intelligence agents documents showing the role being played by the Islamic Republic government in the recent unrest in Iraq, Italy's daily La Reformista reports, quoting British sources. Even though Moqta Sadr is said to have links with the Islamic government in Tehran, it appears that the Iranian government in general prefers to deal with recent crisis in Iraq cautiously. By supporting Moqta Sadr, and the Shiite organizations opposing Moqta Sadr, Iran is playing both sides in order to come out as the winner of the current crisis, regardless of the outcome of the current insurgency, Agence France Press wrote yesterday in a commentary.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 04/09/2004 1:37:48 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Zeyad reports:

A friend of mine told me today that he had been in contact with some clients who were members of Al-Mahdi Army, he said that they all received salaries from Sadr's offices throughout Iraq in US dollars. I asked him where he thought the money came from, he gave me a wry smile and said what do you think? "Iran?" I offered, and he nodded back in silence.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/09/2004 1:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Smoke the Iranian nuke facilities for gosh sakes....what are they going to do...send 1000s of fanatical shit-tite revolutionary guards to attack us???
Posted by: anymouse || 04/09/2004 2:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Jeez, are we gonna have to change the $20s, $50s, and $100s again already?
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 04/09/2004 3:17 Comments || Top||

#4  my take on this : Iran is stirring up trouble in Iraq through Mehdi army, in order to make sure they can go ahead with their nuclear plans. Deflecting the attention to Iraq is just what it needs..
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 4:30 Comments || Top||

#5  So when are we going to start the invasion.I say right after Bush is reelected:)
Posted by: djohn66 || 04/09/2004 7:09 Comments || Top||

#6  If Sadr's offensive is Iran's war by proxy, we need to make a large-scale counter move. But the current strategy seems reactive not proactive. There have been reports that Iran was infiltrating for how long now?
Posted by: virginian || 04/09/2004 7:44 Comments || Top||

#7  read the Gaming Out Iraq topic.. Very insightfull!
Posted by: lyot || 04/09/2004 7:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Why are we NOT dealing with Iran more forcefully?

Does anyone have an idea?

To hear Rummy the other about this, he said that the Iranian involvement was "unhelpful"...I think that was the word.

I know in conflicts past we were constantly engaging the enmemy behind the enemy in covert fashion.

Brien
Posted by: Brien || 04/09/2004 9:31 Comments || Top||

#9  Troops ,Brien. Iran is twice as large as Iraq and we need our troops ready and fresh. Right now we're dealing with Iraq, but that doesn't mean we don't know what Iran's up too.
Posted by: Charles || 04/09/2004 10:17 Comments || Top||

#10  anymouse has it right. Bush should stop messing with this issue. I do not care if it is only a faction of thr iranian government. iran should be held accountable. destroy all nuke facilities and move significant forces to the border. and let the mullah fucks know exactly the consequences - american military on the outskirts of tehran....and screw the humanitarian part....
Posted by: Dan || 04/09/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#11  Any assets in Tehran? If this is true, it's a perfect excuse to take out Khamenei.
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 11:38 Comments || Top||

#12  Iran has been infiltrating since day 1. They are pushing destabilization for a variety of reasons, foremost among them that if a functioning democracy emerges next door, the people of Iran will rise up and fry the mullahs. One would think that Sistani knows this. What I don't know is if he would support or oppose such an uprising. It is his links with the Iranians that I do not understand and those are the ones that are critical.

It seems clear now that we need about 3 more divisions for all that we have going on or need to have going on. It might be nice if some of the Euro-pussies antied up some significant troop numbers as well. (I can dream can't I???)
Posted by: remote man || 04/09/2004 12:46 Comments || Top||

#13  Thanks Charles...so its troop strength. Ok. So its one issue at a time. I get it. Still frustrated at the tame rhetoric toward Tehran. Maybe we are sending some very stark messages behind the scenes...I hope so. Also, Syria has also had "fighters" killed and captured in these battles...no? Why this all is not blared in the news back here is not suprising...it is sickening!
Posted by: Brien || 04/09/2004 12:49 Comments || Top||

#14  Brien, I understand your frustration and that of others on the mighty R'burg. I'd stress trying not to get overly pissed about the media or their slanted coverage, plus we're going to have some not so good days on the ground - these ops take some time and we have the entire Shia holy weekend to get through. I think the fly paper effect is working though - if Iraq and Iran want to send their biggest fanatics to die - sounds good to me. It's only a matter of time, the eye of mordor will turn east on the derelict mullahs in Tehran as soon as we are finished w/their spawn in Iraq. It may be Allah's job to judge them but we will arrange the meeting.

Posted by: Jarhead || 04/09/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#15  One thing for certain is sadr needs to be killed. Not even an exile to Iran should be allowed. The mullahs will use him again.

And destroy his mafia thugs.

Posted by: Lucky || 04/09/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#16  I hear you Jarhead...this stuff takes time...I am willing to see it through and support GW and our troops 100%...do you really think we will have the balls to deal with Tehran as need be? ...Why the "nice" rebukes from Rummy and Powell? Whats the thinking? Just heard on radio from Sen. Santorum and they do not know who is funding/arming Sadr...come on!...they know...I know for gosh sakes! Why the tip-toeing?

Brien
Posted by: Brien || 04/09/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#17  1. Note Rafsanjani, one of the rulers of Iran, has now openly supported the Sadr revolt. Dissident Ayatollah Montazeri, OTOH, opposes the revolt, and support Ayatollah Sistani. We seem to have a broad civil war within Shia Islam going on, one that stretches from Iran to Iraq to Lebanon.

2. WRT to strategy - going into Iran now is still a dangerous thing, and the preferable strategy is still, winning the war in Iraq and using THAT victory to lever the situation in Iran, IF VICTORY on the ground in Iraq is possible. If it is not, then action against Iran must be considered. My sense is still that our situation on the ground in Iraq is stronger than it appears looking at the headlines, and that the correct sequence is to defeat Sadr, than use that to empower Sistani and humiliate Rafsanjani. I am willing to change my mind if and when that strategy appears infeasible.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/09/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#18  I'm with LH; we need to approach this thing like a snake with a rat: Don't try to get it down in one bite, start at one end, and slowly work toward the other. And never let go.
Posted by: Carl in N.H || 04/09/2004 13:41 Comments || Top||

#19  Let's not go Henny Penny over the press reports, folks. The Marines are sticking to their plan and they are cleaning out Fallujah. Sadr and his Merry Men are shooting their wad and trying to make an innsurrection with the help from Teheran in hopes of demoralizing us. Every time they do this they attrit their assets, which are personnel and materael. These ops against Sadr will take time and patience. They must be systematic. But when the allies ops are over, Sadr will have shot his wad, and this should make us stronger.

On the subject of Iran, it is very apparant that the Black Turbans see a direct threat of a free Iraq to their power. They also see an opportunity to save their asses and strengthen their position by using Sadr as a proxy. $70 million per month is a very reasonable investment for saving their collective asses.

As far as the Bushehr reactor is concerned, that is a separate issue. It cannot be allowed to be loaded with fissile fuel. Once that is done, a strike will produce a huge radioactive hazard, so Bushehr will have to be hit sooner rather than later. The US and her allies will not talk about that one publically. I am sure that mission planning is basically done. The Nataz and other sites for U235 concentration will be a tougher nut to crack, as they are underground facilities. I would think that the concentrators have been humming for a while, so the Iranians may already have enough U235 fissile material for a bomb or two. It will definitely be exciting in the next few weeks to a month or two.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/09/2004 13:51 Comments || Top||

#20  Alaska Paul,
I agree with you on Bushehr.
The fun is supposed to start very soon.
I just hope the USA is coordinated with Israel on this at least on the strategic level.
It would be embaresing if Americam bombers have to turn back because the target has been destroyed by the IAF two hours before Zero time.
Posted by: The Dodo || 04/09/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#21  Dodo> I am sure that the US and Israel are working closely on the Bushehr situation. I would imagine that Israel has humint assets on the ground that would help get intel. I would also imagine that Iranian elements in resistance to the Black Turbans have been gathering intel, as that is how we found out about U235 centrifuges, etc. Everybody in the public is blathering about Sadr, Falluja, and the price of tea in China, while the REAL work is quitely going on. The threat is just too dangerous and cannot be ignored.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/09/2004 22:41 Comments || Top||

#22  There's lots of interesting stuff going on now -- the NORK's are blustering again, China is stirring up trouble in Taiwan and Syria and Iran are making trouble in Iraq. While I have no doubts about our ability to lick all of these threats, I just worry about timing . . . and the election. I honestly think that most of the rest of the world is actively trying to get John Kerry elected. GWB's ads should say just that --

"Hi. I'm President George W. Bush. My opponent is preferred at least 10 to 1 by the Communists in China, the lunatics in North Korea, the pussies in France, the KGB in Russia, the mullahs in Iran, the Baathists in Iraq and Syria, the Paleidiots in the West Bank and Gaza, OBL's remains in a cave somewhere in Afghanistan, the remnants of al Qaeda in their ratholes and their Saudi palaces, the Spanish Socialists, the ungrateful Germans, the leftists and academic elites throughout the U.S. and abroad, and Ted Kennedy and the extreme left-wing of American politics. If that's not reason enough to vote for me, then enjoy being part of the Dhimmi. I'm George Bush and I approve of this message."
Posted by: Tibor || 04/09/2004 23:39 Comments || Top||

#23  lol
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 04/09/2004 23:42 Comments || Top||

#24  The problem is that 95% of people dont know what 'Dhimmi' means.

Don't forget 4 out of 5 murdering dictators prefer John Kerry. (The fifth (Saddam) could not be reached for commment). (I heard this here on Rantburg first :)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/09/2004 23:56 Comments || Top||

#25  Tibor, very cool. So easy, yet so...
Posted by: Lucky || 04/10/2004 0:42 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
'Dawood has his hands in every business'
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Top Jaish commander gunned down
One of Jaish-e-Mohammed’s top commanders and its number one in Kashmir, Qari Asif, was killed in a fierce gun-battle with security forces in Sogam, 120 km north of Srinagar on Thursday. Qari’s deputy, Irfan, and three other militants were also killed. Defence sources said security forces on specific information mounted searches in the Sogam forest area early in the day and came under fire from militants. The killing of Qari is a big setback for JeM in Kashmir. He had replaced Gazi Baba, the mastermind of December 2001 Parliament attack. Gazi Baba was killed by the Border Security Force last year. Huge quantities of arms and ammunition were recovered from the encounter site. Defence sources said troops also gunned down Mohammad Shakeel, district commander of Lashkar-e-Tayiba in another gun battle at Chornar in Kupwara district.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 04/09/2004 1:12:42 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He'll stay dead, right?
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/09/2004 1:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Well lets wait until night and when the moons full to be sure.
Posted by: djohn66 || 04/09/2004 6:44 Comments || Top||

#3  These guys are worse than the Transylvanians...
Posted by: mojo || 04/09/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||


Grenade Thrown Accurately in Kashmir
A grenade explosion and gunfire at an election rally in Indian-held Kashmir killed nine people Thursday and wounded at least 56, including the state's tourism and finance ministers. The rally was being held by the state's governing People's Democratic Party ahead of national parliamentary elections to begin April 20. Eight civilians and a police officer were killed and at least 56 people were wounded, according to Dr. S. Jalal, administrator of the Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences, where most of the wounded were being treated. Police said they suspected Islamic militants in the attack, and a man who said he was with the little-known rebel group Save Kashmir Movement quickly claimed responsibility.
"Legume, round up the usual suspects!"
But the president of the PDP said she didn't believe insurgents were behind the assault in the border town of Uri. Minutes after the explosions and gunfire, PDP president Mehbooba Mufti, surrounded by bodyguards, told Associated Press Television News that she believed the attack was carried out by those opposing the reopening of a crucial highway between the capitals of divided Kashmir. "We know which elements are responsible for this. Militants are not behind it. They don't operate in Uri area," Mufti said. "This happened because some people do not want the highway to Muzaffarabad to reopen." Some Kashmiris believe the federal government and army are privately opposed to reopening the highway because it would create logistical problems and possibly even help the militants.
I don't want the new four-laner behind my house but I haven't thrown any grenades over it.
The state Interior Minister A.R. Veeri said it was too early to say who was behind the attack. "It is a matter of investigation. We have ordered an inquiry into it and it will only be possible to identify culprits after the investigations are done," Veeri told The Associated Press.
"Hurry the hell up, Legume, we got a press conference and perp walk to do!"
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2004 12:55:42 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Sri Lankan Rebel Groups Exchange Fire for First Time, AP Says
Sri Lankan rebel factions exchanged fire for the first time since the Tamil Tiger movement split last month, the island's first fighting since 2002. The main force of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Elam and fighters from a breakaway group exchanged mortar and small arms fire across the Verugal river, AP said. The main force crossed the river into territory held by the breakaway group, it said.
No reports of casualties, darn.
``There has been some penetration,'' said Verathan, a spokesman for the breakaway faction, as cited by AP. ``We're trying to stabilize the situation. There has been some firing. We are engaged in counterattacks.'' The breakaway faction, led by Colonel Karuna, has said the rebel leadership is comprised mainly of Tamils from the north of the island even as a majority of fighters are drawn from the east. A candidate linked to Karuna was killed before Sri Lanka's election last week.
So, who do we root for here?
I'm hoping for high casualties on both sides. Want some of this popcorn?
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2004 12:42:13 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus
Failed suicide bomber gets 20 years
Moscow City Court sentenced Chechen woman Zarema Muzhakhoyeva to 20 years in prison. She had attempted to stage a suicide bombing at a Moscow restaurant, but changed her mind. An officer of the FSB bomb squad was killed while trying to defuse her bomb.
They were gonna give her life, but changed their minds. Maybe if the poor guy hadn't been killed trying to defuse the thing she'd have gotten off easier.
Muzhakhoyeva will serve 20 years in a prison colony. The court took into account Muzhakhoyeva’s active help during the investigation but also the decision by the court of jury that she deserved no leniency. The prosecutor demanded to sentence her to 24 years. On Monday, a court of jury passed a guilty verdict in Muzhakhoyeva’s case. After the verdict was pronounced, Muzhakhoyeva said: “I did not hate you before, but now I hate you. When I return, I will blow up all of you.”
Vicious little minx.
She's assuming she's going to return, of course...
The 23-year-old bomber of Ingush origin was detained in July 2003 at the doors of a restaurant on Tverskaya Street — Moscow’s main thouroughfare, leading to the Kremlin. She told the restaurant’s security guards that she had a bomb in her bag and planned to stage a suicide attack. Her arrest came just five days after suicide bombers detonated two bombs at a rock concert at Moscow’s Tushino airfield, killing 14 people and wounding many more.
20 years doesn't seem long enough, does it?
20 years someplace about 120 miles north of Khabarovsk seems about right. I hope she likes permafrost...
Posted by: Steve White || 04/09/2004 12:38:42 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  An officer of the FSB bomb squad was killed while trying to defuse her bomb.

Didn't anybody the guy that it's SOP to defuse all bombs while they're still attached to the cuffed perp?

Posted by: Zenster || 04/09/2004 2:05 Comments || Top||

#2  When I return, I will blow up all of you
Posted by: Frank G || 04/09/2004 8:41 Comments || Top||

#3  20 years in a Soviet GuLag Russian prison is a life sentence
Posted by: N guard || 04/09/2004 13:10 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Militants take hostages
In a chilling new development, militants are threatening to burn alive three Japanese hostages if Japan does not withdraw its troops from Iraq in three days. But when asked by reporters on Friday if he intended to pull his country’s troops out of Iraq Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi ws blunt. "No," he said. There is no word on the fate of the hostages who have been identified as two aid workers and a journalist. Ottawa says a Syrian-born Canadian has also been seized in a separate incident. The hostage, Fadi Ihsan Fadel, was working for the New York-based relief group International Rescue Committee when he was seized early on Wednesday morning. The images from Iraq on Thursday were as violent as anything from the invasion a year ago. A video delivered to the Arab language television network Al-Jazeera shows the three Japanese hostages being threatened with guns and knives as their captors shout "God is great" in Arabic. The video was also shown on Japanese television. Eight South Koreans either escaped, or were released by another group of militants.
A question for my American cousins: did the American media show this video on TV? It’s extremely terrifying and will not win the jihadis any sympathy. It should be shown all over the world, but I suspect it will be shown once and an edited version at that.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/09/2004 12:23:47 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes, full video has been shown, including scenes with hostages heads being pulled back and knives put to their throats. Don't know how long it will be shown if news notworks think it might stiffen our resolve to fight.
Posted by: Steve || 04/09/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#2  On the 8th, the kidnappers were threatening to eat their victims. Will the media show this, too?
Posted by: Tresho || 04/10/2004 2:24 Comments || Top||

#3  "Will the media show this, too?"
Al Jizz prolly will. They've featured video of Chechens cutting the throat of a Russian soldier pleading for his life, so why not this? Islam is a glimpse into the past - into pure barbarism.
Posted by: .com || 04/10/2004 2:39 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Provincial Capital in Afghanistan Is Seized by a Warlord's Forces
Follow-up, EFL.
Forces loyal to Gen. Abdul Rashid Dostum seized control of the capital of Faryab Province in northern Afghanistan on Thursday, forcing the governor to flee and drawing a sharp rebuke from President Hamid Karzai and his ministers in Kabul. The central government ordered in troops of the Afghan National Army, along with their American trainers, but they arrived too late to prevent the takeover of power. It was more a political coup than a military clash, with just some shooting in the air in the city, witnesses said. But militia loyal to General Dostum had seized control in four districts throughout the province, they said. The governor and his top officials fled in the morning after a demonstration turned violent and protesters began stoning the governor's office, the interior minister, Ali Ahmad Jalali, told a news briefing. The governor of a neighboring Sar-e-Pul Province also fled his post, he said. There were no reported casualties.
"Run away, run away!"
General Dostum was trying to "stamp his authority on the region," Mr. Jalali told journalists on Thursday afternoon. "What General Dostum has done is against all military rules and the Constitution of Afghanistan," he said. It is the first time that a governor appointed by the central government has been forced from power by an armed faction, and will be a test of Mr. Karzai and his government's ability to reassert control. General Dostum is Mr. Karzai's representative in the north and has often voiced support for the central government. Yet he has been an advocate for a federated state and has been reluctant to give up military and economic control of his duchy region.

The first deployment of 150 out of 700 Afghan National Army soldiers arrived in Faryab on Thursday afternoon and were poised to start patrols in the city by evening, said Gen. Zaher Azimi, an army spokesman. More units were on their way from the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif, he said. The city was calm at nightfall, but still remained in the hands of men loyal to General Dostum. A small number of British troops were also in the city. Mr. Jalali, who is responsible for appointing provincial governors, said members of the National Police would also be traveling to the area to investigate what had happened and to try to restore the governor to power. He was strongly critical of General Dostum and said that men who were technically soldiers of the Ministry of Defense and under General Dostum's command were among those who seized control of Faryab. He called such action "misuse of the National Army" and "unconstitutional," and said General Dostum was acting to exert his own authority in the area for personal gain. Neither General Dostum nor his aides could be reached for comment on Thursday, but he has reportedly denied being behind the unrest.
"Wudn't me!"
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