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Indon Muslims on trial over beheading young girls
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Africa North
Morocco and Algeria disagree about Western Sahara
(SomaliNet) Algeria's president, Abdelaziz Bouteflika, has said that autonomy for Western Sahara is out of the question. This follows a statement by Morocco's King Mohamed VI asking for Western Sahara's autonomy. Algeria's president says that granting Western Sahara its autonomy would lead to instabilities in North Africa. Algeria's president believes that this issue can only be resolved by the UN Security Council since it is a "problem of decolonization."

Morocco took over the Western Sahara from Spain which led to a battle with Algeria Polisario Front, which wants the Western Sahara's independence. Algeria has always supported the Polisario Front. Algeria's president says that granting Western Sahara independence would "transform the region into a squalid swamp serving as a hideout for bands of terrorists and criminals doing business in human beings and arms trafficking."
I thought it was Morocco's king who said that?
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe Morocco & Algeria can go to war?
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/09/2006 4:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Morroco's King said, "dirty marsh", other than that, the wording looks almost identical. Must be some sort of parallel universe leader-speak thingy. For gits and shiggles, here's the Morrocan King's quote from two days ago:

transform the region into a dirty marsh and den of terrorist gangs and criminal bandits smuggling human beings and arms.

Versus Algeria's president:

"transform the region into a squalid swamp serving as a hideout for bands of terrorists and criminals doing business in human beings and arms trafficking."

Talk about both of them being on the same page ...
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2006 4:52 Comments || Top||


Arabia
KSA executes 3 Pakistanis for drug smuggling
Saudi Arabia executed three Pakistanis, including two women, for drugs smuggling on Wednesday, taking to 20 the number of reported executions in the kingdom since the beginning of the year. The official Saudi Press Agency said that the two women were put to death in the coastal city of Jeddah for smuggling heroin into the country. Saudi Arabia implements strict Islamic law and usually carries out executions by public beheading with a sword. The country executed 86 people in 2005 and 36 in 2004.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is legit. Why don't we worry about the beheadinigs they do for non-crimes such as conversion away from Islam.

Drug smugglers deserve what they get.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/09/2006 13:59 Comments || Top||


Britain
Three Pakistanis convicted of murdering Scottish boy
A Scottish court on Wednesday convicted three Pakistanis of kidnapping and murdering a white schoolboy, whom they stabbed repeatedly and set on fire, and jailed them for at least 22 years each. The three had fled to Pakistan following the brutal March 15, 2004, killing of 15-year-old Kriss Donald, before they were arrested and sent back to Britain last year in a special deal in the absence of an extradition treaty. A jury at the High Court in Edinburgh took almost eight hours to convict Imran Shahid (29), his brother Zeeshan Shahid (28) and Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq (27). Following the intervention of a Scottish politician, authorities in Pakistan handed the men over to Britain for questioning in October last year after their arrest several months earlier. The British High Commission in Islamabad said at the time it was the first case of its kind because Pakistan had no formal extradition agreement with Britain, and had only been able to act after lengthy talks and a change in the law.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred, I've posted this up in the WoT section as I believe that this was more than just a "race" or "hate" crime. I'd like to open discussion as to whether endless spewing by jihadists like abu Hamza, telling British Muslims that non-Muslims are "cattle that can be taken to market", played a part in making this a terrorist act as well. My article also contains one or two other details not mentioned in yours. Delete mine if you see fit to do so.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2006 1:17 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd like to open discussion as to whether endless spewing by jihadists like abu Hamza, telling British Muslims that non-Muslims are "cattle that can be taken to market", played a part in making this a terrorist act as well.

Chicken/egg dilemma, Zen.

Posted by: gromgoru || 11/09/2006 4:27 Comments || Top||

#3  It doesn't require jihadists or jihadist mullahs. The constant drumbeat of superiority and devaluation of the kufr as written in the koran and taught in muslim societies lowers the barriers to acts ranging from children stoning the kufr all the way to rape and murder. It no longer becomes a matter of right and wrong (it's always right), but will they get get caught and punished by the kufr.

Speaking of cattle to market, read koran chapter 2, The Cow for a glimpse into what a muslim is supposed to think of you.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 8:39 Comments || Top||

#4  At least they can have 22 years where they can be someone's bendover toy in prison. Since Europwimps don't like the death penalty this is the best we can hope for.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/09/2006 13:51 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Iran's nukegociater to visit Moscow, Poot invited to Iran
Moscow visit of Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki was postponed in the very last moment yesterday. Instead, a far more influential politician is arriving to Moscow tomorrow – Ali Larijani, head of Iran’s Security Council. Discussion of the “Iranian resolution”, bearing international sanctions against Tehran, began in New York. So, Iran wants to secure Russia’s support in the UN Security Council. Larijani carries to Moscow an invitation for Russian President Vladimir Putin to visit Tehran before the end of 2006.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov yesterday spoke of the upcoming negotiations with his Iranian counterpart Manouchehr Mottaki. However, it became known in the evening that Mottaki is not coming to Moscow. Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the visit is not cancelled but is postponed.

One of the reasons for it might be the lack of agreement on the schedule of Moscow talks. Tehran insisted on giving Mottaki a private meeting with President Putin. Tehran hoped the reception at the highest level would reinforce Iran’s positions in connection to the discussion of the “Iranian resolution” which began in New York. However, Putin avoided the meeting by asking Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov to carry out the talks. Russian president must have decided to avoid the too-obvious gesture of support for Tehran.
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Posted by: ryuge || 11/09/2006 07:10 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Could be re-evaluating the clipped wings of the US President" -- Paul Harvey, today.
Posted by: eLarson || 11/09/2006 15:48 Comments || Top||

#2  I would never take a Poot in Iran
Posted by: Captain America || 11/09/2006 21:23 Comments || Top||


U.S. rejects referendum for rebel Georgia region
Posted by: Bruce from MS || 11/09/2006 06:44 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought the question of rebel Georgia had been settled at Appomatox. :-)
Posted by: JFM || 11/09/2006 11:15 Comments || Top||

#2  I thought they were talking about that undecided congressional seat.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/09/2006 13:56 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
North Korea on agenda for Bush, Hu talks
A meeting between US President George W Bush and his Chinese counterpart, Hu Jintao, next week will help lay the groundwork for six-party talks aimed at dismantling North Korea’s nuclear weapons, a US diplomat said. US Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns, in Beijing for “strategic” talks, told Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Dai Bingguo that North Korea and its nuclear weapons were on his agenda. “We are very interested in also talking about what we can do to defuse the problem of North Korea’s nuclear ambition,” he told Dai in front of reporters before entering talks.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Japan, US seek united 5-nation front on North Korea
Top Japanese and US diplomats agreed to stand firm against North Korea while seeking a united front from the three other countries negotiating to end Pyongyang’s nuclear program, Japan said. Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice spoke late Tuesday by telephone and agreed the countries would not recognize North Korea as a nuclear power despite its test of an atomic bomb, the Japanese foreign ministry said. They called for coordination with China, Russia and South Korea, the other countries involved in upcoming six-way talks with Pyongyang. Rice and Aso “agreed that not only Japan and the United States, but all five nations need to unite through such occasions as APEC”, the ministry said in a statement, referring to the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation 21-nation summit in Vietnam next week.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A good test for the new Dems > to preserve CHINA as a new market, they must not allow North Korea to dev any truly indigens, NK-only controlled nukes. OTOH, to do so means they must allow the ordinary NKoreans per se to go on starving + hoeless under anti-democratic, anti-Korean manifest destiny, China-centric Commie rule, besides also allowing Kimmie & Co. to "save face" before the two Koreas + World regardless of whether he dev nukes or not. And its not enuff for the USA to go on $$$ wid "business as usual" vv the UNO Progs as it means the USA indir suppor Russo-Chinese Anti-Amer ventures + geopol funding, i.e. funding the seeds of Amer's own destruction, as the WOT/9-11 is about the USA-West vs Russia-China/Asia dominating the future OWG + desired SOCIALIST-TOTALITAR WORLD ORDER. KEEP BUYING THAT POPCORN, BOYZ.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2006 1:17 Comments || Top||


Europe
La Merde Le Monde Rejoices over Bush defeat
'Spirit of War Subsides'

“Last evening in America ... the spirit of war subsided, with its procession of speculating Texas oilmen and maniacal fundamentalists.”

How many buses have our maniacal fundamentalists torched, Dhiminique?

By Dominique Dhombres

Translated By Leslie Thatcher [via Truth Out]

George W. Bush: Rebuked.

------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last evening in America promised to be an agreeable one. A welcome break from the yoots rioting and torching cars over in the peasant quarters.
From the outset, one knew that the Democrats were going to have a breakthrough. But real bliss began at dawn, when the spirit of war subsided, with its procession of speculating Texas oilmen and maniacal fundamentalists.
Yet we are told, on the best of authority (their own) that the Rodents will not try to close down the war. Froggistani media swine may be a low form of life but they often exhibit a kind of insight and forthrightness denied to their American sycophants.

It was as beautiful as Plato's unveiling of the planetary soul. "especially after I reached for another glass of Fernet Branca..." Just as the long-awaited event had begun to materialize, was your humble servant gripped by panic in the wee hours of the morning - just as he had to submit his news article - staring at American news channels to the point that he no longer knew what he was writing? Not at all! Reading the news is the prayer of modern man, Hegel said. Reading LeMonde, Otoh, is the prayer of medievalist savages.

Watching the U.S. news channels through the night when a great nation changes its mind is not at all disappointing. I don't think he means 1980. The American channels had, as for every election, installed hellish stage sets, with commentators who gave the impression that they knew each and every representative, senator or governor from birth to the least significant positions on Iraq, tax policy, or anything you would care to know about. The graphics were mind-boggling. It is still 1975 here in France because we, uh, like it that way. The twenty-first century is so American you see. On CNN - in real time - one could accompany the Democrats before in their rise to power in the House of Representatives, which they won, and in the Senate, which remained in the balance. The past declarations on Iraq uttered by all and sundry were recalled, dissected and analyzed from a wider perspective – in terms of the great change of opinion regarding this war.

It was all done with the admirable professionalism of American TV - not forgetting of course, the astonishing bad faith of Fox News and some others. Soros' check was good, I tell you. The nerve of those rednecks.

Once upon a time, they had misinformed the public about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. And without budging, they continued to relay statements from the brain-washing machine installed at the White House and Pentagon.....rather than censoring them as our masters the imans had ordered. But on this occasion they were obliged, the poor unfortunates, to reveal the names of the victorious Democrats and those of the Republicans who had fallen for their compulsive warmongering, and whose defeats were most often made possible because they had contented themselves with proclaiming their party's official line on Iraq. In not seeking a change on course - they failed to satisfy.

Early in the evening, we saw Hillary Clinton's victory in the State of New York. Bill Clinton stood behind her with his face illuminated and an intern under the podium. Then, a decisive seat in the Senate was won in Pennsylvania. Generally, the legislative mid-term elections bore everyone. Not this time. Because it wasn't only about foreign policy, which is rare in itself, it was also about war and peace. American voters no longer trust George Bush with either. And now, dear readers, I bid you adieu so I may go to the street and see if my Citroen has been burned yet.


Posted by: Media Monkey || 11/09/2006 15:53 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They best not need our help again.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/09/2006 16:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Le Monde (l'immonde) = the voice of the System.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 16:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Someday, Le Monde will even run articles about the problems in their own country. Maybe when it turns to Shariah.
Posted by: Perfesser || 11/09/2006 16:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Le Monde = Staunch Communist rag.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/09/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#5  Lovely, pointed commentary, Media Monkey! I hope you are far from the carbeques.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2006 19:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Nah, Perfesser, they won't post their troubles under Shari'a. They'll completely welcome their new Islamic overlords.

Do you know why Paris planted trees along the road to the Arc de Triomphe? So the Germans could march in the shade, of course! No offense meant to any of our French cousins who post here at the 'burg.
Posted by: BA || 11/09/2006 21:05 Comments || Top||


German Soldiers Used Symbol Linked to Afrika-Korps
German soldiers sent to Afghanistan in 2001 decorated a military vehicle with a symbol resembling the Nazi insignia used during World War II by members of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel's Afrika-Korps.

Stern magazine published a photograph of an off-road light vehicle bearing on its side a brown palm tree marked with the Iron Cross instead of the Nazi swastika used by the Afrika-Korps, an expeditionary force sent by Adolf Hitler to North Africa.

The symbol "had not been authorized" and was removed before the vehicle was shipped to Afghanistan, Defense Ministry spokesman Thomas Raabe said at a government press conference in Berlin today...

...The photograph in Stern shows the military vehicle belonging to the KSK special operations unit in November 2001 while it was stationed at Camp Justice on the Omani island of Masirah, Stern reported. The elite unit was the first German ground-troop force sent into Afghanistan, where Germany has 2,730 troops attached to the United Nations ISAF mission, all in the north of the country.

The KSK member who revealed the photograph to Stern said some of his peers in the unit "found it particularly chic" to drive around with the palm symbol, but that he and others thought it was "simply disgusting," the magazine reported today.

Last week the German parliament's Defense Committee said it would investigate allegations that the KSK in Afghanistan mistreated a German-born Turk who was released from Guantanamo Bay two months ago. Committee members including Winfried Nachtwei of the opposition Green Party said the probe should expand to examine the KSK's conduct in Afghanistan more broadly.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/09/2006 15:44 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Here is the original tactical symbol of the German Army (not Nazi Army unit) known as the Afrika Korps.

Scary, ain't it?

Afrika Korps symbol
Posted by: badanov || 11/09/2006 16:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Helluva a pointy-coconut on that tree. Hate to have one plunk me in the noggin.
Posted by: eLarson || 11/09/2006 16:04 Comments || Top||

#3  So they used a symbol something like a Nazi symbol?

Sorry, I'm not seeing the issue. I understand the German paranoia about Nazi symbols, but this seems to be driving it into the realm of hysteria.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/09/2006 16:05 Comments || Top||

#4  I can understand their touchines...but Afrika Corps was Wermacht..not SS but was purely a unit of Hitler's Germany so there's definitely a strong negative connection. Doesn't the Luftwaffe still us a stylized version of the Iron Cross insignia? Couldn't find photo at link.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/09/2006 16:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Agree with you RC. From perspective of those serving in the unit, I'm sure they wouldn't want anything to tarnish their rep. As the first German combat troups to deploy abroad, they must have a lot to pressure domestically over how they conduct themselves.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/09/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||

#6  The < href='http://www.isymbolz.com/spiritual/crosses/cr034-Lorraine.jpg'>Cross of Lorraine was a tactical symbol of the German 79th Infantry Division. They gonna ban that as a tactical symbol since it was a unit at Stalingrad?

Scary symbol. ain't it?
Posted by: badanov || 11/09/2006 16:16 Comments || Top||


#8  Historical ignorance of the press drives me nutz, but military historicaL ignoirance from a nation like Germany is unforgiveable.
Posted by: badanov || 11/09/2006 16:30 Comments || Top||

#9  Field Marshal Erwin Rommel was also known as the Desert Fox. Both a post WWII book and movie based upon the book were titled as such.
That didn't seem to matter when the Clinton Administration and the folks at DoD launched Operation Desert Fox to cover Monicagate.
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/09/2006 17:05 Comments || Top||

#10  http://www.militaryaircraft.de/pictures/military/aircraft/F-4F/F-4F_RIAT2005_002_800.jpg. Looked up a photo. German fighters still use the iron cross, right on the side of a Phantom. Excuse me, but BFD.
Posted by: Weird Al || 11/09/2006 17:14 Comments || Top||

#11  Pretty bird.
Posted by: badanov || 11/09/2006 17:20 Comments || Top||

#12  http://workstation20.archive.org/ttk/mbt/mbt/mbt.leopard2a6-big.jpg Same symbol for the leopard tank. Not as pretty as the phantom, but just as nasty.
Posted by: Weird Al || 11/09/2006 17:37 Comments || Top||

#13  Bad link on the tank. Just take my word for it. Still haven't figured out how to import pics.
Posted by: Weird Al || 11/09/2006 17:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Committee members including Winfried Nachtwei of the opposition Green Party said the probe should expand to examine the KSK's conduct in Afghanistan more broadly

not a valid complaint, but a way for the watermelons to get a "withraw from Afghanistan" movement going
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2006 18:00 Comments || Top||

#15  There it is Frank. This is all part of the plan do dig some crap up and tie the German troops to being horrible Nazi's and murderers in Bush's war in Afghanistan. All because they had a palm tree painted on the side of their truck,it was just sooo scary! Worse than the crap that someone is saying this junk, the people are believing it.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 11/09/2006 18:14 Comments || Top||

#16  Watermelons...heh heh. Let em investigate, they'll get squat. KSK has done a good job even though they've had their hands tied.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/09/2006 18:38 Comments || Top||

#17  Weird Al: The best bet is to get a free picture hosting account from somebody like photobucket.com

Then, when you find a picture you like, download it to your computer, then upload it to photobucket. They even give you the html code to post here at rantburg, so just your picture will appear.

This avoids all sorts of hotlinking and sizing problems. I use it so much that I must have 50 pictures stored there to plug in where I like.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/09/2006 19:09 Comments || Top||


French nearly fired at Israelis
French troops serving in Lebanon have been only seconds away from firing on Israeli aircraft, the French defence minister says. Michele Alliot-Marie told parliament the jets dived towards UN positions in October and were perceived as a threat. "Two seconds later there would have been a shot against the aircraft which were directly menacing our forces," the defence minister said.

France has previously complained about Israel violating Lebanese air space. Ms Alliot-Marie last month called the intrusions "extremely dangerous". She raised her concerns with UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan and Jean-Marie Guehenno, the French head of the UN peacekeeping operations.

The head of France's troops in Lebanon even suggested their rules of engagement might need to be changed so that they could reply with force to Israel's air violations.

Ms Alliot-Marie said of the October incident that a "catastrophe" was avoided only thanks "to the judiciousness of our troops".

The foreign minister said France would issue a caution to Israel.
sidebar:
"It is a miracle that nothing serious happened, because there could have been a response on the part of French troops."

Philippe Douste-Blazy
French foreign minister

I'd pay to see that!
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/09/2006 10:38 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  JFM might be right in his assessment of yacoub ben shiraq needing an open, shooting war with Israel to run for a third time and hopefully get re-elected.

This is crazy, but then again french politics are getting crazier and crazier, aloof from reality, and driven by personal ambitions hiding behind failed ideologies and addicts to political power and taxpayers money
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 12:24 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, buuuuuttt,
is this France's payoff to keep their OWN intifadah under control?
Posted by: AlanC || 11/09/2006 12:28 Comments || Top||

#3  wow. This should be frontpage news. But we just voted in the party that will support France.
Posted by: anon || 11/09/2006 12:30 Comments || Top||

#4  That would have been the last goddamn thing the French troops would have done.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/09/2006 12:31 Comments || Top||

#5  The anti-israeli stance is indeed part of the equation to placate the restless Youths (the others being the endless stream of subsidies, and the apologist culture of the mainstream ideology).

Fun part is, this whole anti-israeli stance is in itself fueling the restlessness of the Youths, by applying the full force of the MSM to entrench them in their worldview... kinda like the Tf1 star anchorman having a lapsus yesterday, while presenting the 18 dead paleos with the usual french MSM progaganda bia (IE giving only the arab point of view, while palying the emotional chord with shots of dead bodies,...), by saying "americans" instead of "israelis"...

By legitimizing the "armed resistance", "liberation struggle",... in Israel, and in Iraq too, the french System is incidentally justifying violence in France. It's a vicious circle. All hail our Glorious Arab Policy!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Ima thinking this is a really bad idea. The French did well against the Greenpeace hippies at the Battle of the Rainbow Warrior, but the Israelies have a lot of practice lately shooting at people and things.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/09/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#7  You can bet the UN GPS coordinates have been registered to the last foxhole.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 12:43 Comments || Top||

#8  I wouldn't discount the possibility of a non-authorized incident - 15% of French military is Muslim.
Posted by: mrp || 11/09/2006 12:45 Comments || Top||

#9  IDF, the french don't matter. They are not much more than buffoons who have not been able to do anything of substance since Napoleon.
Posted by: Xenophon || 11/09/2006 18:33 Comments || Top||

#10  Shame that patriotic French military will have to die for the fecklessness of Jacques and Dhimminique and Michele....(one of them is a woman, I can't remember which...). Light up an IAF jet and reap the consequences
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2006 18:43 Comments || Top||

#11  French fighting the Jews? Not unless the jews are unarmed and loaded in cattle cars. I got $20 says the Israelis don't even work up a sweat.
Posted by: Weird Al || 11/09/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||

#12  Spot on Al. The IDF would char up a tasty batch of French fries and be back in time for corn flakes (so to speak).
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/09/2006 19:04 Comments || Top||

#13  I got $20 says the Israelis don't even work up a sweat.

I see your $20 and double down. (As it were)
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2006 22:35 Comments || Top||


Norwegian Immigration Minister given bodyguard
Posted by: Sleagum Ebbuck1006 || 11/09/2006 08:43 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
Christian Amanpour's husband, ex-Clinton adminstration official secretly visits Tehran
Iran Focus, a pro-MEK website, reported that a senior Clinton administration official has fueled rumors among Iranian political pundits that some Democratic Party leaders may be attempting to establish unofficial channels of communication with Tehran. An excerpt:

James Rubin, the chief spokesman for the State Department from 1997 to 2000, traveled to Iran recently to visit a relative of his wife, Iranian-born Christiane Amanpour, CNN’s chief international correspondent. ...

Baztab, a Persian-language website... with close ties to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

“Baztab has learnt the James Rubin… came to Iran last week on a secret visit”, the website reported on Tuesday.
The full text:
A five-day visit to Iran earlier this month by a senior Clinton administration official has fueled rumors among Iranian political pundits that some Democratic Party leaders may be attempting to establish unofficial channels of communication with Tehran in a bid to out manoeuvre the Bush administration in its handling of the thorny issue of Iran.
An Iranian Foreign Ministry official was quoted by government-controlled newspapers in Tehran on Thursday as saying that James Rubin, the chief spokesman for the State Department from 1997 to 2000, travelled to Iran recently to visit a relative of his wife, Iranian-born Christiane Amanpour, CNN’s chief international correspondent.

The Iranian official noted that Rubin had entered Iran after “receiving a visa and following legal procedures”, adding that Rubin did not meet any Iranian official during his visit.

Both the announcement and the official’s request for anonymity were unusual by Iranian standards. The Foreign Ministry official was in fact reacting to a report that had appeared earlier this week on Baztab, a Persian-language website that belongs to Mohsen Rezai, a former Revolutionary Guards commander with close ties to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

“Baztab has learnt the James Rubin… came to Iran last week on a secret visit”, the website reported on Tuesday. “The Iranian authorities have not made any comments so far to confirm or deny this report and efforts to find out about Rubin’s meetings in Iran have come to no avail”.

The website quoted the Tehran correspondent of Britain’s Sky News – where Rubin is a regular commentator – as saying that the former U.S. official visited Iran in the company of his wife and toured the cities of Tehran, Qom and Isfahan.

“This was just a family visit; they didn’t meet any officials”, Siamak Zand, the Sky News correspondent, told the website Baztab.

Coming at a time of rising tensions between President George W. Bush’s administration and Iran’s hardline-dominated government, the surprise visit has raised some eyebrows on both sides of the Atlantic.

“This may have been just as innocuous as the Iranian government has portrayed it; an uneventful family visit”, said Hassan Baradaran, a writer on Iranian affairs based in Paris. “But if the Democrats wanted to send someone to Tehran just to test the waters, Rubin would have been the guy to pick”.

Baradaran noted that from Tehran’s perspective, Rubin had the right credentials; he was a senior foreign policy advisor to former President Bill Clinton and the national security adviser to Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry. Both Clinton and Kerry have been vociferous in their criticism of the Bush administration’s Iran policy, advocating a more conciliatory approach to Tehran in search of a possible “grand bargain”.

“Iran and how to deal with the growing crisis generated by Tehran’s nuclear program, its role in Iraq and Lebanon and other flashpoints of the Middle East could be the most important foreign policy issue in the next presidential elections in the United States”, Baradaran said. “Iran is bound to be a big issue for any Democratic candidate in ’08, and some might be tempted to pre-position themselves”.

While the timing and the circumstances of Rubin’s visit to Tehran aroused much speculation among Iranians in Iran and abroad, experts warned against any comparison to the “October Surprise” conspiracy; an alleged plot that claimed representatives of the 1980 Ronald Reagan presidential campaign had conspired with the Islamic Republic of Iran to delay the release of Americans held hostage in Tehran until after the 1980 U.S. presidential election. The allegations were never proven.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 06:44 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I would advise that little weasel not to visit Serbia. Mr Amanpour was mouthpiece #1 during the Clinton War.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/09/2006 9:44 Comments || Top||

#2  “…has fueled rumors among Iranian political pundits that some Democratic Party leaders may be attempting to establish unofficial channels of communication with Tehran.”

Let me get this straight. "regimechangeiniran.com" reports that "iranfocus" reported that "Baztab", a Persian-language website quoted an anonymous Iranian Foreign Ministry official. And this has fueled rumors amongst unidentified Iranian political pundits.

Hoakey Doakey then.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/09/2006 9:58 Comments || Top||

#3  If CNN is in any way even remotely connected, it's wrong.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 10:00 Comments || Top||

#4  It's soooo right in their minds, though, John. Remember how they intentionally hid info on Saddam just to keep a Baghdad office open.

The website quoted the Tehran correspondent of Britain’s Sky News – where Rubin is a regular commentator – as saying that the former U.S. official visited Iran in the company of his wife and toured the cities of Tehran, Qom and Isfahan.

I've gotta say, Christiane's family lives in some very interesting cities. Wonder how his tour of their nuclear sites went?
Posted by: BA || 11/09/2006 13:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Sung to
"Tradition" from "Fiddler on the Roof"

Sedition, Sedition! Sedition!
Sedition, Sedition! Sedition!

Who, day and night, must spin the news one way,
Feed a line of bullshit, slant those things each day?
And who has the right, as master cathode ray,
Not be so truthful each and ev'ry day?

CNN, CNN! Sedition!
CNN, CNN! Sedition!

Who must know the way to slant all that they say,
A where's that, good gone away?
Who hires lackeys of Presidents gone astray ,
So viewers don't have to think on any single day?

CNN, CNN! Sedition!
CNN, CNN! Sedition!
Posted by: Ogeretla 2006 || 11/09/2006 14:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Clever as always, Ogeretla. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2006 14:21 Comments || Top||

#7  ...When Ronald Reagan tried to set up an 'unofficial' channel of communication, the Donks did their damndest to hang him.
This, of course, is a different story...[sarcasm OFF]

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/09/2006 15:55 Comments || Top||

#8  Hey if he goes wanna go to

Daaaaaaaad !
Posted by: George W Bush || 11/09/2006 14:12 Comments || Top||


In Spain, dismay at Muslim converts holding sway
Leftists and assorted types turned muslim, since "islam is the religion of the poor and oppressed", or religious conversion as the "in yer face" to the western world order.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 06:33 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "today's converts oppose fundamentalism, promote women's rights, and reject violence"

In other news, a bridge in Brooklyn is listed for sale.......................
Posted by: no mo uro || 11/09/2006 20:11 Comments || Top||


Mother Sheehan arrested, again
Activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Wednesday as she led about 50 protesters to a White House gate Wednesday to deliver anti-war petitions she said were signed by 80,000 Americans. The Berkeley, Calif., woman, whose son was killed in Iraq more than two years ago, was arrested along with three other women on the sidewalk outside the White House gate, said Lt. Scott Fear, a U.S. Park Police spokesman. They were charged with interfering with a government function, he said.

Before she was arrested, she joined the protesters in hailing the outcome of Tuesday's elections and chanting "Stop the War" outside the gate. "It was taking too long for them to decide whether to accept them or not, so we just delivered them," said Sheehan, who waited about 15 minutes with other protesters before tossing the petitions over the fence.
Will you accept this punch in the nose? Will you? You're taking too long, so how about if I deliver it Myself.

The petitions opposed use of military force to resolve the dispute over Iran's nuclear program until after Israel or a Western target is nuked.

Wednesday's protest came as Republicans lost control of the House and the White House announced the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. "He's being offered as a sacrificial lamb," Sheehan said.
Let's call him a "martyr" and see how the idiotarians react.
Posted by: Jackal || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Are they gonna give her the chair?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/09/2006 5:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh fuck she is wearing a button with her son's picture on it.

Who the hell is funding this whore?
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/09/2006 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Soros was, I believe.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/09/2006 9:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Drove past some peace nazis demonstrating in State College last night. Good thing I was in the far lane - had the maddest impulse to swerve right into 'em.

Defeastist dickheads.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 11/09/2006 9:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Hmmm 80,000 signatures purport to speak for 300,000,000 people. Is it a wonder that our schools are failing?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/09/2006 12:51 Comments || Top||

#6  And, don't forget CS, that a LOT of those 80,000 are either stable (as in, how Arafish is "stable"), muzzies themselves and/or illegal immigrants. I wonder if Harry Belefonte and Chavez's signatures are on there?
Posted by: BA || 11/09/2006 13:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Pelosi aims to block Democratic hawks from key posts
Thank you for helping us win the election by pretending we're all something we're not. Now go away.

...Democratic Party sources said as House Speaker, Ms. Pelosi plans to block moves that would place hawks into important chairmanships. The sources said a key casualty would be Rep. Jane Harman, a six-term member of Congress who has cooperated with Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.

"Nancy Pelosi wants total party discipline," a source in the Democratic Party leadership said. "If you played ball with the Republicans during this session, then you're not going to be given an important chair in the next session."

I guess, when faced with the choice of getting a second term as speaker, or doing as much damage as possible during a single term, Nancy's gonna press the Big Red Button.

As the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Ms. Harman was expected to become chairman of the powerful committee. But Ms. Pelosi is expected to pass over Ms. Harman for either Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida or Rep. Silvestre Reyes of Texas, the second- and third-ranking Democrats on the intelligence panel.

Why not just fedex the morning briefings to Zawahiri, and cut out the middleman? It'll be cheaper for everyone concerned, and we could always plant disinformation or something in them...

...The sources said the 61-year-old Ms. Harman, regarded as the best informed House Democrat on intelligence and technology issues, angered the liberal Ms. Pelosi by supporting the Bush administration’s policies on defense issues, particularly the war in Iraq and the Patriot Act. They said Ms. Pelosi has rebuffed lobbyists in the pro-Israel community and defense industry that sought a chairmanship for Ms. Harman.

So, my knowledge of the rules of Regress and the House being scant, the question that pops into my mind is... is there anything we can do about this? I'd appreciate comments from those democrats present here who said they just wanted a more competent prosecution of the war.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 11/09/2006 13:35 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This will go over real good with the rest of the 'crats; shit on your own and they will remember it. keep up the great work nancy.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 11/09/2006 14:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Whoa, boy! Can I get a piece of this action?
Posted by: Chuck Berry || 11/09/2006 14:22 Comments || Top||

#3  This will go over real good with the rest of the 'crats; shit on your own and they will remember it. keep up the great work nancy.

Pelosi is going to do exactly what I expected/hoped she would. Single handedly destroy the Democratic Party. Now, let's just hope she doesn't destroy the country in the process.

The next two years are going to be BAD! But, it will probably finish off the Demo's once and for all. I pray for that every night!

Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/09/2006 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Mick, while I pray for their destruction too, I can't help but think (big-picture here) that we NEED a Donk Party that functions. The Repubs have gone off the reservation and for that just got smacked. But, a little competition is good every once in a while to make the pubbies take a lesson away from this. In other words, with no national Donk Party, the Pubbies, I'm afraid are just gonna become them (higher taxes, bigger spending, more "social" programs, etc.) like they've already done somewhat.
Posted by: BA || 11/09/2006 14:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Nanci also forgets that many House democrats owe her zero loyalty. Howard Dean saw to that by starving their campaigns of money to rebuild the State parties. Those that owe anybody loyalty owe it to Hillary, who raised her own funds, then doled them out to starving candidates.

Wouldn't it be a shocker if somebody other than Nanci was voted to be Speaker?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/09/2006 14:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Ditto Mick,

Pelosi for House Mouther!

Posted by: twobyfour || 11/09/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||

#7  ...I can't help but think (big-picture here) that we NEED a Donk Party that functions.

No, we need a second party that functions. It doesn't have to be the Donks. They (the donks) could reconstitute themselves after shedding the LLL, or, another party could form from those that have learned from the Donks left turn into Crazyville. I can only hope.

Wouldn't it be a shocker if somebody other than Nanci was voted to be Speaker?

It would be sweet justice.



Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/09/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||

#8  We will all be witness to the impending train wreck. Back to Clinton politics--the adults have all left the room. It would be humorous if it were not so worisome.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 17:14 Comments || Top||

#9  she's paying off the Black Caucus for their supporting her for the speaker by removing the best informed white woman Representative in her party and installing a black man disgraced former impeached Judge (bribery). Racial prejudice is okay if it helps her stay in power. It's very simple, and disgusting
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2006 18:13 Comments || Top||

#10  Reyes might not be too bad for a Demonrat, but Hastings...

Pelosi is going to ... Single handedly destroy the Democratic Party.

It would be nice, but I don't think it will happen. The far left (such as SF) will continue to support moonbats. The moderate areas will say something like "OK, the leadership is bad, but OUR Representitive John Smith is pretty decent, so we'll reelect him." Only those who campaigned as moderates or moderate liberals, then discard the sheep's clothing and get on the news might be dumped. There will probably only a half a dozen of those, depending on how well the MSM cover for them.

Posted by: Jackal || 11/09/2006 18:58 Comments || Top||

#11  there are already Donk turf fights today among "who put us over the line". The big tent for the Donks won't contain the egos and turf wars. Enjoy.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2006 19:02 Comments || Top||

#12  Just showing how unserious the dems are about the war.

So, appointing Hastings is the new way?

Flubbies should start snarking, that's all they have left.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/09/2006 21:25 Comments || Top||

#13  Shit on me

Yeah baby more more

The face yeah that's it
Posted by: George W Bush || 11/09/2006 14:11 Comments || Top||


Jews take root in Capital Hill
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/09/2006 12:01 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder what they're gonna do when they'll have to choose between their party's stated position ("We need to work more closely with our traditional allies and the international community") collides with the lousy reality we live in (See link below: French nearly fired on Israelis).
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 11/09/2006 14:08 Comments || Top||


Biden says Bolton nomination "going nowhere"
John Bolton's troubled nomination as US ambassador to the United Nations is "going nowhere", a key Democratic senator said today after the party scored big in mid-term elections. Joseph Biden of Delaware is expected to chair the Senate Foreign Relations Committee if Democratic control of the US Senate is formally confirmed. "I never saw a real enthusiasm (for Bolton's nomination) on the Republican side to begin with. There's none on our side. And I think John Bolton's going nowhere," he said.

Mr Bolton, the controversial former undersecretary of state in charge of non-proliferation, was nominated by President George W Bush to be UN envoy in March 2005. But after his confirmation was blocked in the Republican-led Senate, Mr Bush made a recess appointment, which will last until the new Congress convenes in January 2007.

After Tuesday's elections Democrats now control the US House of Representatives and, US media outlets say, the Senate as well. Before voters cast their ballots, there was talk of Mr Bush re-submitting Mr Bolton's nomination.

Another possibility was having Mr Bush appoint Mr Bolton to another US government job so he could still be paid but assigning him to work at the UN. Senate Democratic aides said they did not know if such a move would be legal
Posted by: ryuge || 11/09/2006 06:56 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Biden is a dickweed. My contacts with Bolton's people have proven to me that John has some balls. Something liberals hate.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/09/2006 9:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Back to non-Constitutional activity. The Senate defining who appointments may be and, instead of just vetting nominees.

What a travesty.
Posted by: badanov || 11/09/2006 9:19 Comments || Top||

#3  I can live with 2 years of total gridlock. Might get the deficit down.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 9:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Might get the deficit down

If the 70s are any indication, that will be on the backs of the men and women of the uniformed services. The Donks will make them the whipping boys for their efforts. Defense will be gutted again. Rummey is the first over the side, the warriors are next. They're political bargaining chips for the next 2+ years.
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/09/2006 10:29 Comments || Top||

#5  better lock in those mortgage rates now. Back in the 70's 12 percent was considered a "good rate".
Posted by: anon || 11/09/2006 10:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Bolton has, in part, fostered international consensus resulting in resolutions regarding Lebanon and N. Korea. N. Korea has tentatively agreed to return to the six-party negations. There continues to be some traction regarding sanctions against Iran. And he never misses an appropriate opportunity to call for reform at the UN. Yeah Joe…he’s such a hothead…throw the bum out and replace him with him with someone more Powell-esque. Quick…get Albright on the blower!
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/09/2006 10:47 Comments || Top||

#7  I hear Jimmy Carter is available for UN ambassador.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 11:01 Comments || Top||

#8  I wish, it would be perfect. Instant, massive buyers remorese.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2006 13:43 Comments || Top||

#9  i don't see gridlock; that implies lack of movement. i do see backsliding on any number of fronts; including defense. i expect a gutting of the contracts for new carriers, the JSF, any number of Army and Marine armor upgrades, etc. i agree with assessment of interest rates climbing; glad i have a fixed rate.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 11/09/2006 13:46 Comments || Top||

#10  Let Biden say what he wants. I think Bush should defy congress on this one. Do what he wants. And when it goes to the courts, he cn have Bolton there "Temporarly" for two years. Let them shelve it in committee, or filibuster. Even down 49-51, they wonyt have 51 No votes so this could be "interesting"...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/09/2006 13:55 Comments || Top||

#11  better lock in those mortgage rates now. Back in the 70's 12 percent was considered a "good rate".

When we bought our first house in 1982, we were thrilled to get an 18% fixed rate on a dip; the going rate at the time was 21%. (When we were engaged, Mr. Wife said to me, "You can have any ring you want, darling, or a new bed." He followed that with, "You can have any wedding you want, darling, or a house." And he's bullied me on budgeting by giving me similar choices ever since, the brute!)

If Mr. Bolton can stay in the UN ambassadorship without going through confirmation hearings for the next two years, I'd be satisfied, so long as he stays. We've not often had effective people in that slot, and despite how horrid and counterproductive the UN is, it's a situation that must be managed proactively lest, like the news media, it spins out of control.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2006 14:46 Comments || Top||

#12  Bush is renominating Bolton - see my latest post - let's see Biden have a battle of wits against Bolton. An unarmed man shouldn't fight
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2006 18:20 Comments || Top||

#13  Frank -

I doubt Biden will even schedule a Bolton hearing. That's how they play.
Posted by: mrp || 11/09/2006 18:27 Comments || Top||

#14  then the US will be unrepresented at the blessed UN. Two can play
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2006 18:40 Comments || Top||

#15  Hubris is defined when facts defined.
Drudge is reporting; Preliminary: Senate Ballots cast: 31,591,495 (D) 25,054,569 (R)... combined vote 56.6 million.

Despite the population going over 300 million for the first time ever. 83% of the population is eligible. 23% of eligible participated.

Compare this turnout to say 1994 when total votes cast for Senators was 57,716,000!

Result 12 years later voter turnout was 1.1 million less than 1994. Despite the above mentioned data.

The total expenditures by both parties set a supposed record. ( waiting for final data) The effectivness of those dollars per vote sets a new record low.
Posted by: Elmolusing Jomons8064 || 11/09/2006 21:13 Comments || Top||


Democrats ask Bush to hold summit on Iraq
That didn't take long.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Triumphant U.S. congressional Democratic leaders began to flex their new political muscle on Wednesday by urging President George W. Bush to host a bipartisan summit on the Iraq war and find common ground with them on such domestic issues as education and health care.
Because cutting-and-running from Iraq isn't enough, Bush has to do it at home as well.
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said the American people voted for change in Tuesday's elections. "I hope that he (Bush) will listen," Pelosi said at a news news conference after receiving a congratulatory telephone call from Bush, who also called Reid.

"I told him (Bush) what I said last night -- that I looked forward to working in a bipartisan way with him, that the success of the president is always good for the country and I hoped that we could work together for the American people," Pelosi said.
"Until we impeach him," she added softly.
Reid said: "It is time to put partisanship aside and find a new way forward - at home and in Iraq. Today, I ask the president to surrender convene a bipartisan Iraq summit with the leaders of Congress."
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH, ALTERNATISTS-LEFTLIBERALS are CONSERVATIVES too, but just didn't know it until the movie PEARL HARBOR + MSM-Hollyweird/HOME SIMPSON > "CAN'T SOMEONE ELSE DO IT!?" Clintonian Fascist = defective Limited Commie Amerika must save IRAQ before we turn it + entire ME [inlud Israel?]over to the Iranians.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2006 0:44 Comments || Top||

#2  WHAT????????
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/09/2006 8:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Yesterday Pelosi was interviewed by Brit Hume. She said "Iraq was not a war to be won but a situation to be solved".

No one should be too surprised when at some point in time she says that we have no jihadist enemies but only friends we've failed to appease.

Posted by: Mark Z || 11/09/2006 8:44 Comments || Top||

#4  ..Does anybody remember after the '94 elections how the Donks insisted that they still had to control most (if not all) the committees, because there was no 'mandate' for the Reps?
I am no utterly and thoroughly convinced that - for at least the most left wing and senior of the Democratic Party - there is no real difference between their tactics and those of the Communists and Islamofascists: Take power by ANY MEANS NECESSARY, and if that still doesn't work, deny the legitimacy of your opponents' victory. And when you do win...accept nothing other than the total, complete and unquestioned surrender and submission of your opponents.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/09/2006 8:45 Comments || Top||

#5  "Democrats ask Bush to hold summit on Iraq"
They can even pray for it if they want to, but sometimes God's answer is simply "No".
Posted by: Darrell || 11/09/2006 9:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Bush will do it. He's going to take a leaf from the Schwartzenegger Metropublican book and cave. He's finally going to work some deals with them in exchange for immigration and minimum wage. He did it in Texas and he'll do it in Washington. Remember he's a compassionate conservative.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/09/2006 9:06 Comments || Top||

#7  He's not taking a page from it, that's how he's always been.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/09/2006 10:27 Comments || Top||

#8  The president makes foreign policy. Congress doesn't.
Tell 'em to fuck off. I was gonna say fuck off and die but I didn't because of the new spirit of "bipartisanship"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/09/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||

#9  No, Congress doesn't make the policies... but they do appropriate the funds to carry them out. Or they fail to, as the case will be.
Posted by: eLarson || 11/09/2006 15:50 Comments || Top||

#10  So does Nancy Pee want to invite Hamas, Hezballah, and AQ to the summit?
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Mike K hits it outta the park! I remember that well. Time to do the same, while bringing up the Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians killed after the Donks pulled us out of VN. Put those millions of dead right on the DNC doorstep
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2006 18:33 Comments || Top||


A Closer Look At Robert Gates
When Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld stepped down Wednesday, President Bush nominated a close friend of his family who is a decorated former CIA agent and director as a replacement. "Don Rumsfeld is a tough act to follow," President Bush said. "That's why i picked a man of Bob Gates' caliber."

At an earlier press conference announcing Rumsfeld's announcement, Mr. Bush said: "Bob Gates will bring a fresh perspective and great managerial experience." But Gates, 63, is no stranger to insider Washington. Gates joined the CIA in 1966 and is the only agency employee to rise from an entry-level job to the seventh-floor director's office. He served in the intelligence community for more than a quarter-century under six presidents.

Gates was so respected among administration officials that he was asked in 2005 to take the position of Intelligence Czar. But Gates, who had been serving as president of Texas A&M University, declined the offer, saying he "had nothing to look forward to in D.C. and plenty to look forward to at A&M."

That sentiment apparently changed after Gates met with President Bush about the job over the weekend at the president's ranch in Crawford, Texas. Wednesday afternoon, Gates told the media the military activity in Iraq and Afghanistan provided him motivation enough to step away from the Ivory Tower and prepare to move back into the beltway. "I believe the outcome of these conflicts will shape our world for decades to come," and because American women and men are engaged in conflict currently, Gates said he "did not hesitate when the president asked me to return to duty."
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Personally, I'm not convinced Dubya is finis' wid Rummy just yet. The DemoLeft wants the USA under OWG and to increase Gummermint at home whilst weakening Amer overseas for same > means 2007 is gonna be crucial, decisive year for both America's foreign policies + Radical Islam's!? IMO, the Dems response to intensified Spetzlamist violence in the ME + beyond, poten even within America itself, will determine 2008.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2006 1:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Huh...the coffee's working JM.
That's almost readable.
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/09/2006 6:27 Comments || Top||

#3  It is readable, and he's right. The other big question is whether Gates is there to fight the war or wind it up at any cost. If the latter, the Republicans won't see the inside of the White House for 8 years except as visitors.
Posted by: Jonathan || 11/09/2006 7:04 Comments || Top||

#4  Bush has given up the fight. Gates isn't leading the DoD to fight, but to disengage. He is a member of Baker's Iraq Study Group where victory is a dirty word. Their optimum choice is to use Pelosi as a cover to withdraw and pin any resulting massacres on the Dems. Beltway politics as usual.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 8:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Their optimum choice is to use Pelosi as a cover to withdraw and pin any resulting massacres on the Dems.

Good that it would work that way but the Dhimmis are good at the blame game too. They will turn up the propaganda machine. The MSM will be a willing accomplice.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 10:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't get me wrong, I think a cut and run approach is a lousy choice. It will come back to bite us untold times.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 10:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Is Gates the first spook to be named US Secretary of Defense? If so, given the history of financial turf battles and the often acrimonious relationship between the intelligence community and the DoD, this might be a signal of things to come.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/09/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#8  It will be interesting to see what happens to re-enlistment rates.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/09/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#9  John Foster Dulles was Secretary of State and spook.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#10  Maybe Allen Dulles was the spook come to think of it.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 11:24 Comments || Top||

#11  Another close friend of the Bush family...oh, fucking NO !
Never another Bush, never again !
I now believe Bush should resign and let Cheney get a handle on things while training up a new staff of tomorrows presidential material.
At this point, 2009 couldn't come fast enough.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/09/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#12  2008 doesn't look good. Not much talent warming up in the bullpen. The best and brightest don't enter politics.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 11:38 Comments || Top||

#13  "John Foster Dulles was Secretary of State and spook."

JohnQC, What about US Secretary of Defense? Sorry, I'm alittle lazy today and thought somone at RB might know off the top of their head.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/09/2006 11:45 Comments || Top||

#14  This signals that we're moving into endgame mode. Baker will be doing the backroom diplospeak thing to get the Iraqis to realise that it's time to shat or get of the pot, cause we are winding down but I don't expect us to be in any hurry. Interesting timing on the Al Douri message to the Baathist thugs to cease and desist but
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/09/2006 12:00 Comments || Top||

#15  Let me be a heretic for a moment:

We need to disengage from Iraq so that we can deal with Iran and North Korea.

There. I said it.

We went to Iraq to remove Saddam who was a threat to us, WMD or no. He's a genocidal monster and it's good we got rid of him. Hope he swings.

We stayed in Iraq to help the people rebuild their country. We seriously underestimated the difficulty of that but we've stuck it out, and good for us in doing so. Some say we should have left right away and let the Iraqis sort it all out, but that would have to either Saddam-lite or a Shi'a-Sunni bloodbath -- or both.

But we have to keep our eyes on the main prize, and if I fault Rumsfeld for anything big (and I'm not smart enough to pick out and cite the small stuff), it's that he allowed himself to be boxed in by Iraq. We've not been able to plan for Iran and North Korea because of this and it shows.

Yeah, yeah, we have a big military, but planning new major operations involves more than moving pieces around the board. It's perception, strategic planning and diplomacy, and Bush, Rummy and Rice have allowed Iraq to paralyze their strategic thinking.

The Iraqis are closer to standing on their own. It's by no means perfect, and I still fear the consequences of an early withdrawal.

But Gates would well change the mind-set in our own strategic thinking by sending the signal, to our own military, our diplomats, and to the Iraqis, that we're wrapping up business in Iraq 'cause we have things to do elsewhere.

There, I'm done with my heresy. For today.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#16  No heresy at all...I've heard much the same batted around the 'Burg and elsewhere. Makes sense actually.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/09/2006 12:14 Comments || Top||

#17  SW: Let me be a heretic for a moment:

I don't believe it's unthinkable. Iraq isn't Vietnam. North Vietnam had a several hundred thousand strong conventional army waiting across the border. Iraqi Sunnis don't have that kind of invasion force ready. If we left Iraq today, the Shiites would take more casualties and inflict fewer ones on the Sunnis. But they'd eventually win. (After all, they have the machinery of an entire country working for them, and the Sunnis do not). They want us to stay because they want free stuff and - let's face it - it's better, from a Shiite standpoint, that an American dies fighting Sunnis than an Iraqi Shiite do so.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/09/2006 12:17 Comments || Top||

#18  Spooks at DoD

Frank Carlucci, Deputy Director CIA

James Schlesinger, DCI for six months

Bobby Ray Inman, DNI, Vice Director, DIA, Director, NSA, DCI was nominated by Clinton to be SecDef. He withdrew his nomination from consideration after revealing that there was a conspiracy led by Bill Safire and Bob Dole to attack his character in the confirmation hearings.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/09/2006 12:57 Comments || Top||

#19  re: NS & #8: re-up rates will tank. about the only ones staying will be those that are real close ( like 1 tour) to retiring and those that can't hack it on the outside. fortunately for the Navy anyway, there are high year limits on paygrades, so those will get flushed, but in the meantime those that CAN hack it are out and in the private sector. And that will mean a leadership issue down the road (like in 2009 and beyond)
Posted by: USN, ret. || 11/09/2006 13:53 Comments || Top||

#20  Just dropped by to say hi everybody

I would love to stay and discus bob, but alas I feel like watching the box, and anyways the Virginian is on

See ya
Posted by: Hibjobol Abjub || 11/09/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#21  and anyways the Virginian is on

I hope it's a marathon.
Posted by: Thoth || 11/09/2006 14:50 Comments || Top||

#22  Quack Quack
Posted by: George W Bush || 11/09/2006 14:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
StrategyPage: Another Al Qaeda Victory
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 10:21 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What do you expect from an adult, US voter? Foresight? Wisdom? Intelligence? Most of them were too busy watching reality TV, or Okra Wimpy.

Now it's kerrykennedypelosimurtha's turn to lead the US to the promised land.

Posted by: anymouse || 11/09/2006 12:36 Comments || Top||

#2  I must apologize to the appeasers, cowards, media tools, and dhimmis of Spain. They at least had a mass casualty attack to push them over the edge.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/09/2006 13:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Need another box of tissues?

The GOP lost an election. Get over it. Did you really think they were going to control the whole USG forever? The Dems aren't going to lead the US. They'll control the Congress in a couple of months, but the GOP still has the Presidency and near-complete control of the conduct of the war. The idea the Dems will defund the war with troops in the field is a paranoid fantasy. They're nowhere near that stupid, or that brave. They will whine, and look into some things GOP chairman would have been happy to leave under the rug. Some of that may be helpful in the long run. Or not. The US and the war effort will survive it.

If AQ thinks this is some big victory for them, they'll learn better soon enough. The Viet Cong never brought down an American landmark, and nobody in either party has missed the difference. This isn't the end of the war effort, it's a partial changing of the guard five years in.

The sad thing is, if the Rumsfeld decision had been announced last week, when it was already a done deal, there's a good chance that would have been enough to hold the Senate at least. I've got to think Cheney's "we'll do what we want no matter what the voter's do" statement last week pissed off a least the 3 in a thousand voters in VA that put Webb over the top (if that's the way it turns out).

And hey, isn't being defeatist when the enemy can hear you supposed to be bad form?
Posted by: Whairong Elmereger3072 || 11/09/2006 13:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Nobody here is crying. The real crybabies are the fools who will try to shut down the war.

"The idea the Dems will defund the war with troops in the field is a paranoid fantasy."

I don't think they will have the votes, but I am willing to consider the possibillity that they do. Is an insulting dismissal all you have in opposition? Who are you to contradict the publicly stated positions of thousands of Democrat activist? Should we just take your word for it that they don't mean what they say. You are very fond, it seems, of telling other people not only what they should think, but what they do think.
It is a lie that nobody has missed the difference between this and Vietnam. Did you not hear Ted Kennedy say that Iraq is another Vietnam? Have you not heard the likes of Alan Colmes and a chorus of other Dem media authorities demand to know why war is necessary even in Afghanistan?
I would respect the Dems' position more if they were honest about it, something we did see from the Spanish leftists.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/09/2006 14:37 Comments || Top||

#5  The Dems will get Bush to Re-deploy (save his legacy), then they will de-fund the Iraqis. 1975 - Deja Vu all over again. Helicopters taking off from the roof of the US Embassy, ferrying people to Jordan. The difference this time will be instead of Boat People we will have Camel People.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/09/2006 14:48 Comments || Top||


#7  "Did you really think they were going to control the whole USG forever?"

Incidentally, this is one of the dumbest strawmen ever posted here. What complete, braindead, adolescent arrogance.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/09/2006 15:12 Comments || Top||

#8  France rejoices at Bush defeat
From La Merde Le Mond:

'Spirit of War Subsides'

“Last evening in America ... the spirit of war subsided, with its procession of speculating Texas oilmen and maniacal fundamentalists.”

Posted by: Media Monkey || 11/09/2006 15:31 Comments || Top||

#9 
the GOP still has the Presidency and near-complete control of the conduct of the war
Somebody'd better tell Bush that.

He looks broken.
Posted by: JSU || 11/09/2006 16:21 Comments || Top||


Malvo Gets Life in 6 Md. Sniper Killings
ROCKVILLE, Md. (AP) - Convicted sniper Lee Boyd Malvo was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison for six murders in Maryland that were part of a three-week shooting spree that terrorized the Washington area in 2002. Malvo, 21, pleaded guilty in October to the murders in Montgomery County, where the series of 13 shootings began and ended in October 2002.

The Maryland trial in Montgomery County Circuit Court included Malvo's chilling insider account of his trip across the country with accomplice and mentor John Allen Muhammad.

In a brief statement in court Wednesday, Malvo apologized for his role in the killings. "I'm truly sorry, grieved and ashamed for what I've done," said Malvo, his voice breaking.
Good. Now back to your prison cell, and the next time you come out will be for your funeral.
It is unlikely, however, that Malvo will ever serve time in a Maryland prison. He has already been sentenced to life in prison in Virginia for sniper shootings there and was sent to Maryland last year for a new trial on the condition he be returned after his case ended. That could happen within the next several days, said Darren Popkin, Montgomery County's chief deputy sheriff.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nice and dandy, but the Milyuuhn dollar questionne' is whether the USDOD + FBI-CIA + Penn State will use the Mafia to indir order that Malvo be entitled to eat steak-and-prawns/shrimp for dinner every nite ala JOHN MARK KARR. AND WHAT AGENCY = MAFIA ENTITY IS GONNA BRING THE DINNER SAUCES, AND AT GUMMERMINT EXPENSE, D *** IT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2006 1:22 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Taliban fighters talk tough while safe in Pakistan
BALOCHISTAN PROVINCE, PAKISTAN – The 22-year-old doesn't look like the traditional turbaned Taliban commander. His black hair shoots out at all angles from beneath a red cap. He smiles easily and has a neatly trimmed beard. But Hilal says he is the co-leader of 200 Taliban fighters who operate across the border in Afghanistan. "Two years ago, we only attacked Afghan officials, but now we have so many Talibs that we can attack Americans," he boasts.

In a rare interview with a Western reporter, Hilal and three other Afghan Taliban fighters describe how they slip into Afghanistan, attack NATO and Afghan forces, and return to Pakistan to rest. "Everybody in the neighborhood knows we are Talibs," says Noman, a 19-year-old fighter with a blue-white block-printed turban. "Pakistan is a little bit free for us."
Real hard boy, bet he swaggers.
The interview was conducted over two days in a small house made of yellow mud in Pakistan's Balochistan Province. The fighters, who won't give their real names, say they are here for a refresher course in Taliban ideology in a Pakistani religious school.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A 22 year old commander eh?
Yeah, it sounds like things are going good for them.
Posted by: Snins Theremp6825 || 11/09/2006 5:51 Comments || Top||

#2  When they start giving interviews from the center of Kabul, I'll believe they're really making headway.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/09/2006 5:53 Comments || Top||

#3  "Pakistan is a little bit free for us."

says it all!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 11/09/2006 6:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Norman, coordinate!
Posted by: Harry Mudd || 11/09/2006 8:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Imam ed lays down a fatwa requiring shelling everything living on the Pakistani side of the border. Having to walk another 20 miles to and back from the border under artie fire will take away a lot of their piousness.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 8:46 Comments || Top||


India to set up special court for Mumbai train bombs
India will set up a special court for the July Mumbai train bombings to speed up justice for the families of the nearly 200 people killed in the attacks, officials said on Wednesday. Police have accused 19 people, mostly Muslims, in the July 11 attacks on crowded commuter trains and platforms. Charges against them would be filed by the end of November, police said. India’s criminal justice system, burdened by millions of cases and a shortage of judges, typically takes years to grind through trials. Special courts are often established for high-profile cases in an attempt to speed things up, but even then verdicts often take time—a special anti-terrorism court is only now handing out verdicts for 1993 bombings in Mumbai that killed 257 people.
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#1  "India to set up special court for Mumbai train bombs"

How about setting off 155mm shells 15 clicks West?
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 11/09/2006 11:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Correction! "klicks" not "clicks"
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 11/09/2006 11:51 Comments || Top||


Post 7/11, Unani docs under watch
Their profession calls for a healing touch. But they trade in terror, passing off as respectable members of their neighbourhoods while plotting violence. Recent arrests have linked Unani doctors to terror strikes, as far apart as Ayodhya and Mumbai, putting them firmly under the scanner of security agencies.

The arrests of two Unani doctors for their involvement in the Malegaon explosions of September 8, 2006, is not the first time that this medical stream has come under cloud for links with a jehadi agenda. Medical practitioners and lawyers have always been on the security radar as the professions provide a perfect cover for meeting a wide range of people for "valid" reasons. According to an intelligence official, for a militant outfit, a lawyer, a doctor or even a local journalist is a good recruit as they have a wide social network and they can meet and identify persons with a radical bent of mind. Such young and vulnerable minds are considered best material for espousing the jehadi cause, sources said.

Investigations in the recent blast cases have clearly spelt out a pattern involving Unani doctors. Police found that these doctors were not only allegedly involved in providing shelter to terrorists but also acted as conduits for money transfers. Such a trend was noticed in all major terror incidents including 7/11 in Mumbai, Varanasi blasts, Ayodhya attack and Shramjeevi Express explosion. While two Unani doctors — Salman Farsi and Farooq Iqbal — were arrested for their roles in Malegaon blasts on Tuesday, one Tanvir Ahmed Ansari from their fraternity was held by Mumbai Police for his complicity in 7/11. During investigations, it was found that all three had close links with the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI). Ansari had allegedly even undergone bomb making training in Pakistan in 2004. Similar links were also traced by the UP police while probing the Varanasi blasts.

A cleric working out of a Phulpur mosque in UP, Walliullah, claimed to be an expert in Unani medicines, had masterminded the attack at Sankat Mochan temple at the behest of Bangladeshi outfit Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI). It was found that the same cleric gave shelter to those who planted a bomb in Shramjeevi Express near Jaunpur in UP in July last year.

Intelligence officials explained that terrorist outfits would not only try to tap professionals having wide social network within their own community but also try to work the other way round by training recruits as Unani doctors, lawyers or journalists before sending them on a mission. The three major blasts exposed other meticulously followed patterns. Sources said Malegaon terror attacks pointed a needle of suspicion at the involvement of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the terrorist organisation responsible for earlier strikes in Mumbai (7/11), Varanasi (3/7) and Delhi (10/29).
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ATLANTIC MONTHLY > Egypt's Allawi > Many mainstream Muslims are severely = desperately poor, are tired of one Islam for the FEW/RULING ELITES-RICH versus another differentiated Islam for the [permanently] MANY POOR, and support Radical Islamism [suicide bombings/violence]becuz they believe they will attain freedom, satisfaction + modernity ONLY IN THE AFTERLIFE, NOT IN REAL OR PRESENT LIFE/REALITY.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2006 0:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Heh, no decent shot of Uncle Harold?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2006 8:01 Comments || Top||


US, UK condemn Dargai attack
The US and UK on Wednesday condemned a suicide attack in Pakistan that killed 42 Pakistani soldiers. “We extend our deepest condolences to the families and friends of those killed and injured in this heinous attack,” said White House National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe.

“We applaud the Pakistani government’s determination and resolve to fight against terror. We stand with the government and people of Pakistan in this struggle,” he said. British foreign minister Kim Howells said there could be “no justification” for the suicide bomb attack. Howells said in a statement: “There can be absolutely no justification for this cowardly attack which has resulted in the deaths of so many. “I wish to send our heartfelt condolences to Pakistan.”
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Most suicide blast victims were aged 16-17: Durrani
Information Minister Muhammad Ali Durrani has said that most of the army recruits killed in a suicide bombing at Dargai on Wednesday were aged between 16 and 17. “Media and human rights organisations should also visit the homes of the boys who were killed in the suicide attack to speak to their parents and know their plight,” the minister told a press conference at PTV headquarters.

He said the bombing was linked to the military’s strike on a madrassa, used as a training camp for militants, in Bajaur Agency on October 30. “Preliminary intelligence reports suggest that that incident was linked to Bajaur where suicide training had been imparted. Further inquiries are underway,” he said. “Today’s incident is a proof that young minds were being brainwashed and given suicide training to kill innocent people” he added.

Mr Durrani condemned parties that had criticised the Bajaur madrassa raid, saying they had made irresponsible statements for political benefit. “They must keep in mind that their irresponsible actions and statements might be helping the cause of terrorists and resulting in loss of innocent lives” he said.
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Iraq
Iraq PM sees Saddam death within weeks
IRAQ'S Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has said he expects toppled leader Saddam Hussein to be executed before the end of the year. Saddam was sentenced on Sunday by an Iraqi court to hang for crimes against humanity. "We are waiting for the decision of the appeals court," Mr al-Maliki told the BBC. "If it confirms the sentence it will be the government's responsibility to carry it out. We would like the whole world to respect Iraq's judicial will. I expect the execution to happen before the end of this year."

An appeal court has the power to overturn the verdict or change the sentence, such as commuting it to life imprisonment. Legal experts and officials have said it could be months before appeals are exhausted. Mr al-Maliki, a member of the majority Muslim Shiite community persecuted under Saddam's Sunni-dominated rule, said after the verdict was announced that the fallen dictator had got "what he deserved".
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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Hamas breaks off talks after shelling
PALESTINIAN Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh has said talks between his ruling Hamas party and President Mahmoud Abbas on forming a national unity government have been "suspended".
Might as well, it's not like this was going anywhere.
"The Prime Minister's office announces the suspension of discussions underway with regard to the national union government," Mr Haniyeh announced at the opening of an emergency Cabinet meeting. "The government calls on our people to unite faced with this barbaric (Israeli) attack," he added, just hours after 18 Palestinians were killed by Israeli shelling against houses in the northern Gaza Strip.

Mr Abbas had been in Gaza since late Monday in a bid to hold crunch talks with the Hamas-led Cabinet on forming a unity government after months of deadlock and failure in managing to persuade Hamas to soften its hardline stance. "We strongly condemn this terrible massacre and atrocity committed against our people in Beit Hanoun, against children, women and the elderly," Mr Abbas has said. "We call on the Security Council to meet urgenly to stop these massacres. The world must act immediately."
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sure thing guys. Like your unending rocket attacks don't have the least thing to do with this.

Personally, I'm glad to see Israel save their money and simply return counter-battery fire. Artillery shells are cheaper than rolling out the tanks and it gives the gun crews some practice.

It also gives the Palestinians a chance to experience a little uncertainty as to exactly where the next shell will land, just like the rockets.

This needs to happen every single time these terrorist assholes launch even a single missile.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2006 1:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Nothing sez "you're starting to really p*ss me off" like a volley of well-placed 155mm shells.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 11:22 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Smart Rocket Passes Trial by Combat
November 8, 2006: In the last year, U.S. Army artillery units in Iraq have fired over 120 GPS guided 227mm MLRS rockets (officially the " GMLRS Unitary rocket"). When the GMLRS (Guided MLRS) first went into action, the troops realized that this was a near-perfect artillery weapon. There have been no reliability problems with the GMLRS, which has a range of 70 kilometers and, because of the GPS guidance, it has the same accuracy at any range. Unguided rockets become less accurate the farther they go. The GMLRS is designed to put each rocket with in a 16 foot circle (the center of which is the GPS coordinates the rocket is programmed to go for). In nearly all cases, the GMLRS rocket appears to land less than ten feet from the aiming point.

What makes the GMLRS most useful is not just its accuracy, which is about the same as air force JDAM GPS guided smart bombs, but because the 200 pound GMLRS warhead produces a smaller bang than the smallest JDAM (500 pounds). When it comes to urban fighting, smaller is better. Less collateral damage, and your troops can be closer to the target when the explosion occurs. In Iraq, the 200 pound GMLRS warhead is just the right size for your average Iraqi building. The structure, and the bad guys within, are destroyed, and adjacent structures suffer minimal, or no, damage. For that reason, even some Iraqi politicians have come out in praise of the GMLRS.

In order to get more GMLRS, all new MLRS production is being switched to GMLRS, and a retrofit kit, that will turn unguided MLRS rockets into GMLRS, has been introduced. The army believes that GMLRS will remain the most useful smart weapon, even with the recent introduction of the hundred pound 155mm GPS guided Excalibur artillery shell, and the U.S. Air Force's 250 pound JDAM (the SDB, or small diameter bomb). Both of these weapons pack a smaller punch than the GMLRS, and that may be a drawback in some situations. Ground troops are certain that the GMLRS warhead is just right, at least in most cases. But the Excalibur and SDB will get a workout anyway, and they will probably prove useful.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  All right, nit-picking time. If it's guided, it's a missile, not a rocket.
Posted by: Jackal || 11/09/2006 8:54 Comments || Top||

#2  It's sad thing when one has to use such a smart weaponry to kill really, really dumb people.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 11:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Would you prefer to use it to kill intelligent people?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/09/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Please contribute generously to the charity "Dumb bombs for dumbasses". Opening chapters in Bushehr province and points north.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 11:27 Comments || Top||

#5  Would you prefer to use it to kill intelligent people?

Well, as long as it is not used to kill fluffy bunnies, puppies and ducklings.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 12:08 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Larijani: GOP loss may lessen US 'warmongering'
Iran's top nuclear negotiator said Wednesday that the drubbing of the Republican party in the U.S. midterm elections "might lessen the U.S. warmongering policy in the region. It is possible that the U.S. will behave in a wiser manner and will not put itself against Iran."

Ali Larijani will visit Russia later this week for talks on Iran's atomic energy program. Larijani, who said he would make the trip "in a day or two," had kind words for Russia, which has resisted international pressures to impose punitive measures on its trade partner. He described Moscow's position on a draft United Nations Security Council resolution that would impose sanctions on Iran as "logical and principled." Larijani did not say with whom he would hold talks in Moscow.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Once again, we're back to Clintonian DOING NOTHING AMOUNTS TO SOMETHING. America = Amerika, the mighty USSA = weak proxy Amerikan Global SSR just has to absorb any casualties and not do anything becuz its our REACTION + ARROGANCE + NATIONAL SOCIO-CULTURAL-ECON-MILPOL DASTARDLY WAYS that caused Radical Islam's ire against the WTC and other attacks agx Amer interests during the sacred Clinton 1990's. 9-11 was a lowly, mere, insignificant LIMITED ATTACK OF DESTABILIZATION, NOT A FULL-SCALE ATTACK OF TOTAL ANNIHILATION. Amer's enemies want any and all Americans to know why America is to blame for our enemyies' form of State/Nation-specific Govt = SOciety = Religion = Value System is NOT following the will of the Masses/People. OUR ENEMIES WANT AMERICA TO BE HURT AND SOME AMERS
[Few 000's to Few 00,000,000's tops]TO DIE, D *** NG IT, SO THAT AMERS WILL KNOW ITS AMER'S FAULT OUR ENEMIES DON'T WANNA REFORM/CHANGE OR BE LIKE US. America must Must MUST M-U-S-T, D *** ng it, MMMMMMMMMMMMUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT be attacked + hurt becuz America FAILED TO CONQUER = DESTROY = ANNIHILATE US SOONER, TIMES BEFORE WHEN IT HAD THE CHANCE TO TAKE US OVER.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2006 0:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Less warmongering? Ha! In the words of John Paul Jones kinda sorta, We have not yet begun to mong!

Ok, so I've been reading Mark Bowden's Guests of the Ayatollah and I'm feeling a little peppery.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/09/2006 9:20 Comments || Top||

#3  What is says to any future president is that you can not fight a long term 'nicer gentler war' you have to go Mongol from the start. In the long run that means far more real civilian casualties in a quick violent devastating unrestrained execution, but hey, results are results. Got to play to the people back home. Think about it Ali.
Posted by: Procopius2K || 11/09/2006 10:33 Comments || Top||

#4  We should announce a new policy. All US missiles are now aimed equally at North Korea and Iran. If there is an accident, or an unexplained nuclear explosion anywhere in the world we take retaliation upon those two nations.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/09/2006 17:30 Comments || Top||


Russia rejects EU sanctions against Iran
Russia has rejected European-proposed UN sanctions aimed at forcing Iran to halt its suspected nuclear weapons drive, but Moscow appears to be applying its own pressure by threatening to delay a key nuclear power project.

Analysts say the Kremlin is determined not to push Iran into a corner like North Korea - blaming tough US policies for Pyongyang's recent nuclear test - but Teheran's refusal to compromise has led to growing impatience in Moscow despite the two countries' close commercial ties. "President Putin is angry at (Iranian President Mahmoud) Ahmadinejad but he understands that it's probably too late to do anything now," said Georgy Mirsky, chief researcher at the Institute for World Economics and International Relations in Moscow.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No surprise here, given Cold War Soviet practice during Reagan-Bush 1. RIGHTWINGNEWS/LITTEGREEN FOOTBALLS.com > Hizbo's NASRALLAH > remembers how the USA abandoned SOUTH VIETNAM - hopes the USA wil do the same for Iraq + entire ME region + Arab-Islamic world. What makes Russia think its safe!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/09/2006 1:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Joe- I have understood every one of your comments...
HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING?? ;-)
Posted by: Chinter Flarong || 11/09/2006 2:08 Comments || Top||

#3  It takes a bit, Chinter Flarong, but you know you've become a true Rantburger when you can decode JosephM's apparently cryptic statements. Congratulations!
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2006 15:03 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Argentine Judge accepts report ; names former Iranian gvt. officials
November 9, 2006 – New York – The American Jewish Committee has just received word from Buenos Aires of a critically important development in the ongoing investigation of the 1994 terror attack against the headquarters of AMIA, the central Jewish organization in Argentina.

Argentine Prosecuting Judge Rodolfo Canicoba-Corral has accepted today the investigative report prepared by Argentine Special Prosecutor Alberto Nisman, who named seven Iranian former government officials and one Hezbollah operative as complicit in the attack.

The eight will now be pursued internationally as a matter of Argentine state policy. AJC was told that the eight names will be submitted to Interpol for the purpose of issuing warrants for their arrest in any country with which Interpol has jurisdiction.

Further, Judge Canicoba-Corral declared the attack on AMIA a “crime against humanity,” which means the case has no statute of limitations.

“We welcome this most recent example of Argentina’s determination to press ahead in this longstanding and difficult investigation,” said AJC Executive Director David A. Harris, who met with Argentine government officials in Buenos Aires earlier this week. “We hope that other nations involved in the global struggles against international terrorism will assist Argentina in these important efforts to bring closure to the AMIA case.”

AJC has demonstrated its solidarity with AMIA, one of AJC’s interantional partners, from the very beginning. AJC officials flew to Buenos Aires within hours of the attack and have returned to the Argentine capital frequently to urge officials to pursue justice. As AJC and AMIA are partner organizations, these advocacy efforts have always been done in tandem. AJC also has published a series of annual assessments, in English and Spanish, on the state of the investigation.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/09/2006 14:57 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


WND : Hamas, Fatah urge Muslims to 'teach American enemy merciless lessons'
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/09/2006 07:53 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But...but...but I thought Islam was the religion of peace!!? At least that's what that nice, soulful Ibrahim Cooper and CAIR keep saying, and so do all those rent-an-imams they keep trundling out in front of the TV cameras!

It's hard to hear what they're saying, exactly, over the racket being made when those other guys behead Indonesian schoolgirls, stab and burn Scots teenagers, behead American reporters, gang-rape French, Australian and Scandanavian girls, and blow up Israeli pizza parlors. Can someone please tell them they're off-message?
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 11/09/2006 8:38 Comments || Top||

#2  More like, I think America needs to teach Israel a "merciless lesson", to quit pretending it can treat Paleos in a civilized manner and set up conditions under which they either behave, or they are kicked out of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank for good.

Israel has been living in its illusions for too long. This nonsense has to end.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/09/2006 8:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Muslims to 'teach American enemy merciless lessons'

We don't want to know how to ride camels from the backside while shouting, "Allen Ackbar".
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/09/2006 9:07 Comments || Top||

#4  I am sure the Dhimmis will be able to deal with the religion of peace. Some of the options are:

1. Group hug in with religious members of the religion of peace.
2. Establish conflict resolution committee.
3. Send more money to the UN.
4. Group chanting and mutual hand wringing.
5. Put religion of peace leaders in a car with Ted Kennedy.
6. Join the french and capitualate in a very european manner.
7. Educate more mid-eastern students in our schools--no need for them to actually attend classes. We can just convince them of the error of their ways.
8. Hire Cindy Sheehan to annoy them to death.

Any contributions to the list?
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 9:33 Comments || Top||

#5  The Gaza strip is pretty small. I think it would be a good test bombing range for practicing Arc Light missions.

Posted by: 3dc || 11/09/2006 9:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Yes 3dc, but that's, well, so unDhimmicrat.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/09/2006 9:58 Comments || Top||

#7  Is the jizya check late?
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 10:00 Comments || Top||

#8  It will be kind of cool to compete with the Israelis for Palestinian targets to JDAM or Hellfire.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/09/2006 11:29 Comments || Top||

#9  Thats a waste of resources ZF. Dumb bombs for dumbasses.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 11:36 Comments || Top||

#10  ed: Thats a waste of resources ZF. Dumb bombs for dumbasses.

Too many bomb runs necessary to hit the leadership doing that. Waste of aviation gas and maintenance. Take out the leadership and both the rhetoric and actions will moderate. We don't care about what they say - we just care about their actions. Remember what happened after Israel took out the top two guys in Hamas's leadership? No more problems. Bottom line is that if they propagandize and a Palestinian kills our people, we should take out the top guys in Fatah and Hamas. After a while, the lesson will take. A lot cleaner than taking out the low man on the totem pole. Israel provides us the addresses and we do the taking out. What's not to like?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/09/2006 12:10 Comments || Top||

#11  Just try finding them. Think of all the jet fuel wasted and greenhouses gases produced in the search. Mother Gaia implores you to carpet bomb.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2006 12:16 Comments || Top||

#12  No doubt what Fatah has in mind are moderate merciless lessons.
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 11/09/2006 13:12 Comments || Top||

#13  Take out the leadership and both the rhetoric and actions will moderate. We don't care about what they say - we just care about their actions.

Not quite, Zhang Fei. You mildly contradict yourself by saying that a decap of leadership will moderate "both the rhetoric and actions" and then going on to say that; "We don't care about what they say".

Actually, we should care about what they say. Yes, focus on the actions, no misdirection please. But it is critical that we begin disassembling the Islamic propaganda network. This is where our personal strategies coalesce once more. Nailing the top leaders like Nasrallah and other spittle flecked clerics will definitely take the wind out of their sails.

This needs to be our top priority on a worldwide basis. Culling the most influential imams and clerics would have a quietening effect like few would believe. And if it doesn't? Go after the next tier of leadership. Rinse, lather and repeat until thay SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2006 13:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Taking out the "leaders" will only bring up new leaders just as bad if not worse.

They want "merciless lessons"? Let's give 'em one. Cut off all supplies (including from Egypt, thanks), park a couple of cruisers off the coast and start randomly shelling Gaza from one end to the other, day and night, for a couple of months.
Posted by: mojo || 11/09/2006 14:43 Comments || Top||

#15  Whacking the current round of leaders may bring up new leaders who are just as bad or worse from the standpoint of their mouthing off.

They're also just as bad or worse from the standpoint of competence.

It doesn't help when the big league team has to reach deep into its farm system before the playas are ready.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2006 15:54 Comments || Top||

#16  Taking out the "leaders" will only bring up new leaders just as bad if not worse.

Bzzzzt! WRONG! You're using the "killing terrorists only makes more terrorists" sort of argument, mojo.

The very nature of terrorism's secretive operations makes killing their leadership highly effective. Newcomers do not have the connections, depth of knowledge or simple experience that senior members do. Neither do they have credibility or known abilities.

Steve is absolutely right. Make them reach down into the peanut leagues for replacements. See how far it gets them towards the pennant. This is something that's certainly worth trying. We've been doing it to a degree already, we merely need to broaden the scope of such efforts.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2006 16:14 Comments || Top||

#17  Must say am i the only one who thinks the only serious options that will ever work with these chumps, including syria and iran is to land say 20 or 30 trident missiles down on every single population centre and military facility they own, i mean utter wiping out, nothing left, take out maybe 80% of there forces in one swift hit all in the space of several mins. Yes millions would die, tens of millions probably but to be perfectly frank and non pc about it the more dead the better. Please before anyone cries warmonger, which i doubt they will but if they do just realise that if they could do this to us they would not hesitate. I say get it over and done with, fck russia, fck china , i dont give a hoot what they say, tough sht for em. Its become clear in my mind this is the only option left on the cards.
Posted by: Shep UK || 11/09/2006 16:18 Comments || Top||

#18  Must say am i the only one who thinks the only serious options that will ever work with these chumps, including syria and iran is to land say 20 or 30 trident missiles down on every single population centre and military facility they own, i mean utter wiping out, nothing left, take out maybe 80% of there forces in one swift hit all in the space of several mins.

You are not alone, Shep. I do not so much view it as our "only serious option" as opposed to the one choice that will be presented to us after some psychotic Islamic loon finally commits the unthinkable atrocity that leaves us in the West with jaws agape in total disbelief.

It may as well be carved in stone. Islam will commit such a heinous atrocity that the West will be obliged to incinerate the entire MME (Muslim Middle East).

This is not what I want. I would much prefer that moderate Muslims convert to a sect of radical reformists who are willing to stack jihadists like cordwood. Given that, I'd be happy to consider having a reformed Islam join the ranks of this world's accepted religions.

Barring that, the MMe will be incinerated because of their own refusal to coexist.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2006 20:10 Comments || Top||

#19  I like the way you think, Shep!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 11/09/2006 20:49 Comments || Top||

#20  I've found that ARCLIGHT strikes are the ultimate in "shock and awe". Our failure to use them against the Iraqis left them with the belief that we were paper tigers. A three-ship bombing run would take out 90% of the Gaza in one pass. I'm sure the "shock and awe" felt in Askelon and Sderot would be significant enough to let the entire world know that we have the capabilities to turn anyone's day into a really, REALLY bad one, if we chose. That's a lesson the islamonuts need to learn, and learn early. Failure, for whatever reasons, to teach that lesson will only mean more deaths for the United States. That's one lesson Rumsfeld failed to teach, and it's come back to bite us. Now it's al Sadr and the Iranians that need to learn that lesson, and quickly.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/09/2006 21:41 Comments || Top||

#21  an ArcLight link
Posted by: 3dc || 11/09/2006 23:41 Comments || Top||



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