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Kitty Hawk will be decommissioned Jan. 31, 2009, at 10 a.m. in Bremerton, Wash.
Posted by: 3dc || 01/21/2009 09:56 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There were rumors that they were going to sell her to Japan (Hello Kitty Hawk?) or India a while back.
Posted by: Mike || 01/21/2009 10:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Admins! Can someone sinktrap Mikes Hello Kitty Hawk joke as it's breaks many regulations about maximum corniness in jokes.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/21/2009 10:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Sure buddy but it'll have to wait a while, I'm laughing too hard right now.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/21/2009 11:10 Comments || Top||

#4  As long as the Japanese don't paint her pink, I'm ok with it.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/21/2009 11:37 Comments || Top||

#5  What the hell would the Japanese do with the Kitty hawk, transport Toyotas? We neutered them so well they won't fight anywhere except in the global marketplace.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 01/21/2009 12:07 Comments || Top||

#6  CHINA + JAPAN are both considering changing their national strategies towards potent international mil postures. Both need experience wid LARGE-SCALE CARRIER OPERATIONS = OTH FORCE PROJECTION.
Chin and even INDIAN NETTERS have recently opined the possibility of their countries buying a older Cold War Carrier from the USA - KITTY HAWK was named as a preferred realistic option, ostensibly because of its age + espec USDOD-Navy resistance = fear of how foreign states may use their advanced warship techs, followed in lessor by ENTERPRISE + original NIMITZ.

The KITTY was also opined as possib being locally converted to a NUKIE or other powered hybrid, TO REDUCE THE LEARNING/OPERATING CURVE LEAD TIME.

Collectively, these Netters believe it will likely take CHINA, etc. Year 2050 + beyond to catch up wid the USN on heavy carrier technologies.
Posted by: Kojo Glineng1598 || 01/21/2009 17:45 Comments || Top||

#7  Sorry - #5's post was mine.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/21/2009 17:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Thanks for clearing that up, #7 Joe. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/21/2009 18:33 Comments || Top||

#9  Maybe it will wind up on eBay.
Posted by: Iblis || 01/21/2009 18:45 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudi activists liken child marriages to slavery
The controversy over legalizing a minimum age for marriage in Saudi Arabia continued as members of parliament and human rights activists likened marrying minor girls to the slave trade, local press reported Sunday.

Activists in the Saudi parliament and the Human Rights Association lashed out at the idea that minor girls should be permitted to marry following comments by Saudi's highest religious authority Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al-Sheikh that 10-year-old girls should be permitted to marry.

Marriage and other personal status issues are not legislated in Saudi Arabia and some other Gulf countries, but rather governed by sharia courts, which are based on interpretations of Islamic law. Marriage in these countries typically refers to the signing of a contract, which may stipulate an age at which the marriage can be consummated.

" The woman must express real consent to the suitor, and a guardian must not impose his choice of husband on her...or force his son to marry someone he doesn't want "
Sheikh Abdul-Aziz
Child marriage is not prohibited in Islam, but it is subject to restrictions, Sheikh Azeb al-Mesbel, member of the Islamic and Judicial Affairs and Human Rights Committee of Majlis Ash-Shura, the Consultative Council, was quoted as saying in the Saudi newspaper al-Watan on Sunday.

The bride has to have reached puberty and to consent to the marriage, he added.

The issue of marriageable age has come to a forefront in the past year as human rights activists protested the highly publicized marriage of two minors to men the age of their fathers and the divorce request of an eight-year-old girl married to a man in his fifties. In several such cases the girls did not consent to their marriages, which were arranged by their fathers in secret.

"It is unacceptable that her family take advantage of her childhood to sell her to anybody," said Dr. Talal al-Bakri, head of the council's Social, Family, and Youth Affairs committee, noting that ne must be an adult and fully aware of what marriage entails in order to get married.

Sheikh Abdul-Aziz's support of child marriage appears to be contingent on each party's consent. In statements last year he noted that Islamic law requires both parties agree to the marriage contract.

"The woman must express real consent to the suitor, and a guardian must not impose his choice of husband on her...or force his son to marry someone he doesn't want," he was quoted as saying.

Bakri called for putting an end to the practice of child marriage, which he likened to the slave trade, but added that the council had not discussed drafting a law to set the legal age for marriage.

Saudi Arabia is a signatory of an international treaty for children's rights that makes 15 years old the minimum marrying age for girls, said Hussein al-Sharif, head of the National Human Rights Association (NHRA) Mecca office.

Sharif said he advocates making 18 years old the minimum age since this concurs with Islamic ethics and "creates stability in society and reduces the possibility of family disintegration."

NHRA intervened in several child marriage cases throughout the kingdom and managed to prevent marriages of underage girls with the help of the Emirs and Sheikhs of those regions, he said.

The association is also working with authorities on a law to criminalize violence against women and children. Setting a legal age for marriage would be part of that law.
Posted by: Fred || 01/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good for y'all. The antebellum Republican Party platform used to equate Mormon polygamy and slavery as twin evils. They're both about the pathological patriarchal need to centralize control of the familial sphere in the dictatorial hands of a single daddy-figure by political means. That *sounds* like feminazi ranting, but there's acres of daylight between the rationalized Victorian-style nuclear family and the sprawling familial villages spawned by chattel slavery and unchecked polygyny. Taken to an extreme, only the patriarch is given agency, and freedom becomes "freedom of the head of the household".
Posted by: Mitch H. || 01/21/2009 9:40 Comments || Top||

#2  And I should further note that child-brides are an unavoidable corollary of patriarchal polygamy. When unmarried women become a scarce commodity, the definition of "woman" grows broader and broader, and the space between "infant" and "wife" becomes narrower and narrower.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 01/21/2009 9:43 Comments || Top||

#3  So...does that mean they think it's bad?
You never know with these people.
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/21/2009 10:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Watch your neck pal. A good muslim emulates his self-appointed "prophet."
Posted by: Muggsy Snineger4931 || 01/21/2009 14:25 Comments || Top||


Britain
Chirac Mauled By Dog
Former French president Jacques Chirac was rushed to hospital after being mauled by his own 'clinically depressed' pet dog.

The 76-year-old statesman was savaged by his white Maltese dog - which suffers from frenzied fits and is being treated with anti-depressants. The animal, named Sumo, had become increasingly violent over the past years and was prone to making 'vicious, unprovoked attacks', Chirac's wife Bernadette said.

The former president, who ruled France for 12 years until 2007, was taken to hospital in Paris where he was treated as an outpatient and sent home, VSD magazine reported.

Mrs Chirac said: 'The dog went for him for no apparent reason. We were already aware the animal was unpredictable and is actually being treated with pills for depression.

'My husband was bitten quite badly, but he is certain to make a full recovery over the coming weeks.'

The former French First Lady did not reveal where on his body Chirac was bitten.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/21/2009 14:55 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Zat is not my dog.

Clouseau clip
Posted by: Penguin || 01/21/2009 15:03 Comments || Top||

#2  The dog lives with Chirac? No WONDER it's depressed!
Posted by: AlanC || 01/21/2009 15:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Chirac was 'mauled' by one of these?
Posted by: SteveS || 01/21/2009 15:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Wow. Even his dog can't stand him.
"Statesman"? Good one...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/21/2009 16:15 Comments || Top||

#5  A lap dog. Care to guess where it mauled him?
Posted by: ed || 01/21/2009 16:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Wonder if Sumo is also being treated for rabies now or they just put Jacques under observation before proceeding with the painful treatments?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/21/2009 17:06 Comments || Top||

#7  In other news a grizzly bear has been rushed to hospital after being mauled by Sarah Palin.
Posted by: JFM || 01/21/2009 17:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Strange name, Sumo. Blondie never, ever bit her master.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/21/2009 18:23 Comments || Top||

#9  In France, being mauled by his 'clinically depressed' mistress would have been less newsworthy.
Posted by: phil_b || 01/21/2009 18:42 Comments || Top||

#10  France is going to the dogs.
Posted by: Mike || 01/21/2009 18:42 Comments || Top||

#11  The only thing keeping it from being perfect was that the dog wasn't a toy poodle.
Posted by: Pappy || 01/21/2009 22:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Hope this dog had rabies.
Posted by: Leroidavid || 01/21/2009 23:12 Comments || Top||


Christian refuses to drive "No God" London bus
A Christian bus driver refused this week to drive a London bus that displayed an atheist advertisement saying: "There's probably no God, Now Stop worrying and enjoy your life" on the side and walked out of his shift in "shock" and "horror."

The driver from Southampton in Hampshire said he was horrified last Sunday when he was just about to start his shift "and there it was staring me in the face, my first reaction was shock horror," driver Ron Heather told BBC radio.

"I felt that I could not drive that bus, I told my managers and they said they haven't got another one and I thought I better go home, so I did," he said. "I think it was the starkness of this advert which implied there was no God."

Heather's employer First Bus said it would do everything it could to ensure that he did not have to drive the offending buses. After meetings with First Bus managers on Monday, Heather has agreed to return to work.
Posted by: Fred || 01/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The last Christian in UK?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/21/2009 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Wait until he gets the Jihad ad bus, or the Wikken bus, or the Scientology bus, or the Magic Mushroom Bus.......you get the picture.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/21/2009 1:36 Comments || Top||

#3  It occurs to me, there is no "there's probably no hearne" bus to offend the wiccans, or "there might be aliens out there but they're not space brothers here to save us from ourselves" bus to offend the noo age types.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 01/21/2009 2:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Testing. Muslims are offended all the time at a drop of a hat, so this particular christian maybe decided to see if it sticks. Can be probably expanded to being offended by muezzin call to prayers, the height of minarets disturbing the skyline, etc, etc. At least that is the direction of being offended I'd like to see in substantial numbers.
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 01/21/2009 3:26 Comments || Top||

#5  There is no "there's probably no hearne" bus to offend the wiccans

I think the "no God" clause covers Herne, same as it covers Zeus, Allah, YHWH, the Holy Trinity, Huitzilopochtli, etc, etc. Atheists tend to be equally atheistic towards all deities.
Posted by: AK || 01/21/2009 5:56 Comments || Top||

#6  ...equally atheistic towards all deities.

Except usually themselves. Too many all to often demand others surrender on to them and worship at their alter, that theirs is the only true notion and all other must bend to them. We have the legal briefs to prove it.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/21/2009 8:23 Comments || Top||

#7  The local Freedom From Religion Foundation has said absolutely nothing about Islam, Wicca, or any other faith. They go after Christian groups only, as far as I know.
Posted by: mom || 01/21/2009 10:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Let us examine this:

Offensive sign? Check

Firebombing? No. Therefore not an Islamist.

Fatwah Issued against driver, sign maker, sign buyer, bus company, township, county and nation?

No. Therefore not Muslim.

Archdruid approves sign and chides driver? No.
Therefore not an Anglican.

Driver launches Lawsuit? No.
Therefore not an American.

Driver refuses due to offense? Check.
Therefore not a unitarian

He must be a normal Christian.
Posted by: Lagom || 01/21/2009 14:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Good for him. I wouldn't ride the bus either.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/21/2009 16:28 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia indefinitely puts off delivery of nuke subs to India
In what could be a major set back for India's defence preparedness, Russia has 'indefinitely' postponed the delivery of "Akula-II' class Nerpa nuclear submarine, citing that sea trials were still incomplete.

"The pre-delivery trials have been postponed by the Amur Shipyard as it has no trial crew and is running short of cash," Far Eastern edition of Kommersant daily reported today.

The Amur Shipyard is yet to constitute a new trial team for these class of nuclear submarines after November 8 accident in which 20 members of the trial team were killed during the subs sea trials in Sea of Japan, the paper said.
Posted by: 3dc || 01/21/2009 09:49 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Perhaps it's time for an RFI to the competition?
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division || 01/21/2009 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Let EB quote one for them.
Posted by: Penguin || 01/21/2009 10:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Actually, Russia is doing India a favor, in a twisted way.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/21/2009 11:15 Comments || Top||

#4  We have a number of Los Angeles class boats that are decommissioned: as I understand it, they're fine but the Navy didn't want to spend big bucks to refuel them. I think we could have a customer who could pick up that tab. Make sure the subs have an instrument platform that's just right for the Indians and off they go.

Bet a Los Angeles class boat could be rehabbed for a lot less than what the Russians want for an Akula II, and it isn't like we're going to need a few extra subs in the coming years.
Posted by: Steve White || 01/21/2009 11:15 Comments || Top||

#5  And there are jobs in that process, how could the new Administration ignore such an opportunity. /sarcasm off
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/21/2009 12:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Make sure the subs have an instrument platform that's just right for the Indians

Equip with Tomahawks pre-targetted for all the best places in range of the western Indian Ocean. Any nominations?
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/21/2009 12:51 Comments || Top||

#7  PRAVDA > RUSSIA'S ECONOMY IS NOT EXPECTED TO GROW AT ALL IN 2009; + WORLD MIL FORUM > ASIAN ECONOMIC BREAKDOWN: RUSSIA MUST CHANGE ITS NATIONAL AND ASIAN ECONOMIC STRATEGIES IN ORDER TO RECOGNIZE THE RISE OF CHINA AND NON-WESTERN NEW POWERS. RUSSIA MUST RECOGNIZE THAT CHINA AND ITS POTENT ECONOMY HAS A SIGNIFICANT BARGAINING CHIP VITAL TO RUSSIA'S SURVIVAL.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/21/2009 20:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Joe - I don't think it's much news that any national economy will grow this year, but I take your point to be the reference to China.

If so, Russia doesn't seem too concerned about treating potential clients nicely to counterbalance China. Aside from Germany and the gas deals, they're pretty much trashing everyone else worth considering - the near neighbors, India, us, and not really going out of their way to cultivate ROK or Japan. Heck, they could even take a run at Vietnam for old times sake.

This recession of ours may just be the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division || 01/21/2009 22:20 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Cleric: Rape, beating ok for wives
Posted by: tipper || 01/21/2009 12:49 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Isn't it more of a shocker if a Muslim holy man says you shouldn't abuse your wife?
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 01/21/2009 13:26 Comments || Top||

#2  In a recorded lecture entitled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage'', delivered to his male worshippers but now broadcast on the internet and viewed by several thousand people, Hamza said Islamic law allowed men to hit their wives as a last resort but they were not to make them bleed or become bruised.

Ah. Ye Olde Coathanger Wrapped in a Towel Pimp Beating.
Insh' Allah...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/21/2009 13:40 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Stay Classy, Reuters...
Geez, mama. You're going after him like he stole your doughnuts...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/21/2009 16:30 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's worse than that. He set the stage for her to get a job.
Posted by: gorb || 01/21/2009 18:14 Comments || Top||

#2  I have to say, that is a pretty funny photo. So she gets 1 point for humor.
Posted by: Free Radical || 01/21/2009 21:36 Comments || Top||



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Wed 2009-01-21
  Pakistani troops kill 60 Talibs in Mohmand
Tue 2009-01-20
  Barack Obama inaugurated
Mon 2009-01-19
  Qaeda in North Africa hit by plague
Sun 2009-01-18
  Olmert: Israel's goals in Cast Lead have been attained
Sat 2009-01-17
  Israel Unilateral Cease Fire in Effect
Fri 2009-01-16
  Elite Hamas ''Iran'' Battalion Wiped Out
Thu 2009-01-15
  Senior Hamas figure Said Siam killed in airstrike
Wed 2009-01-14
  Hamas accepts Egyptian proposal for Gaza cease-fire
Tue 2009-01-13
  Israelis Push to Edge of Gaza City
Mon 2009-01-12
  Israeli reservists swarm into Gaza
Sun 2009-01-11
  Hamas rejects international observers in Gaza
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  New Year's Missile Strike Killed Top Al-Qaeda Operatives
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  Katyusha rockets falling in Israel's North on the town of Nahariya
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