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2006-02-20 Britain

Barbarian Hordes Amass In Trafalgar Sq Part II...

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Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-20 06:05|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Your very own Admiral was there - quite saddened to the dearth of fellow compatriots in attendance. You'll just have to take my word that I did a good job of
1) Decreasing the eye-rolling / devoted Profit eulogising quotient, and
2) Increasing the eyes glazed / silent seething sectors

COME ON UK - INCREASE DA PEACE, CRITICIZE A PHONY PROFIT TODAY!!!

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-20 07:02|| 2006-02-20 07:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Dear Dr .com

I am worried that I might have a slight obsession with turning peaceful Islamic devotees into seething, fulminating, demon eyed moonbats, by criticizing their highly suspect Profit Mohammed (ham salami wa'gravy) / Holey books Am I a pervert?

Yours sincerely,
Admiral Allan Ackbar.

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-20 07:07|| 2006-02-20 07:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Um, are you talking to me? [Insert DeNiro routine here...]

If so, well, I have to ask if you're doing this intentionally?

More to the point: Are you, like, breathing and stuff?

That'd do it, alrightee...

About the pervert / prevert thingy, well heh, you'd be better served by asking someone else, lol. I'm pretty sure that some prejudicial folks would put me in that pigeonhole -- *sniff* / *LOL* -- I'm thinking it's jealousy, but...
;-)

Posted by .com 2006-02-20 08:16|| 2006-02-20 08:16|| Front Page Top

#4 turning peaceful Islamic devotees into seething, fulminating, demon eyed moonbats

I'd argue this doesn't pass the JND (Just Noticeable Difference) test of my psychology studying days.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-02-20 08:34|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-02-20 08:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Intentionally? Too effing right.

I'm hoping that muzzy-baiting will catch on as a kind of high-brow / intellectuals adrenaline sport.

There's a whole raft of untapped talent out there with loads of spare neurons going round, looking for direction, now that self-flaggelation seems to be going out of fashion in the free world. (OK, maybe I'm being optimistic here...)

Whilst I tend to agree with your espousals of the good old fashioned rhetoric of "argumentum ad baculum" I have to say that even the most addled hafiz can be silenced or caused to chase their tails in increasingly ridiculous ever decreasing circular arguments using good old fashioned logic. Taqeya is a real challenge, but all you need to remember is:

1) Keep it real - often massive substantiation is required, references, etc - tedious, but necessary.

2) Make em laugh - often tricky, but glazed eyes / seething is usually a good indicator you are making your mark / reaching the limits. I find the Koran / Hadeeth / Sunnah quite hilarious in parts (sickening in others, but those bits are the deal closers...)

3) Never trust em. Even with your name. Ever.

I gather from your previous posts you used to work in Sow-di? Any good stories for us

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-20 08:47|| 2006-02-20 08:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Phil B:

I have to disagree - and refer you to my first post. There is a marked visible difference between ones that are in a semi-trancendent adoration of their profit (beans, peas upon him) / eulogising the koran and the later, which seems to be accompanied by a kind of ecstatic cheek flushing and rolling of the eyes, as compared to the post AAA assault; evil / glazed eyes and seething.

Not only is it extremely satisfying, but the seething is far less attractive to any potential recruits.

Christians do it, cuz they're not afraid of death & believe in an afterlife, and also have some ahl al-Kitab covenant type fallback. I do it because theyre a bunch of pussies.

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-20 08:59|| 2006-02-20 08:59|| Front Page Top

#7 A real treat is if you catch a newly converted one. The way they teach the seething thing is by telling them that good muslims must pray to god for self control when the profit (smelly lavhoo sp'spam) is being insulted. So they try to act out as if they are actually trying really hard to restrain their over-exaggerated anger.

My personal favourite is when they actually start to stamp their feet. Especially when in full garb / tea towel.

Playing it by their rules is a bit sickening, admittedly, but its worth it - this stuff really lifts my spirits...

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2006-02-20 09:12|| 2006-02-20 09:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Hmmm, AAA.

Yes, lol, I worked in Saudi - and I've already bored everyone with my stories. I don't do it much, anymore as I sympathize with those who don't care for repetition, lol.

The "intentionally" was tongue in cheek, as the next sentence should have made clear. Did I fail there? ;-)

As for "argumentum ad baculum" - that is a logical fallacy you're accusing me of, lol. I protest! My advocacy of action, rather hardcore action, is based upon knowing the Saudis, in particular, and other Muzzies (Arab and Other) who worked at Aramco, in general, well enough to recognize that most of our carefully crafted Western logic, while laudable in a debating venue, isn't worth warm spit to either an Arab or a Muzzy. What they both recognize at face value and respect is ...[insert drum roll]... power. Unapologetic, unvarnished raw power. It is so now and has always been so. Fallujah I was a disaster - we allowed politicians into the mix and they promptly fucked the whole thing up. Fallujah II was a rousing success because we killed shitloads of the asshats and they learned that fucking with the Military was, literally, suicide. So, with typical Arab / Muzzy logic, they went after civilians, mainly, thereafter, being Lions of Islam and all that rot. So I protesteth the assertion that I am using a logical fallacy by advocating the use of power - I assert that I'm dead solid perfect right-the-fuck-on with it. Heh, of course if I didn't think that, I'd say something else, lol...

As for baiting them, lol, sounds like fun if you have the time and are in range. I don't see too many of 'em in my daily life anymore, living in Sin City. :-)

I did, while in Saudi, have the very pointless, yet eye-opening, experience of having one (who had spent several years in the US) try to convert me. It was nuance and subtlety all the way.

Note: you could, once upon a time when they didn't covet every position in Aramco, be utterly incompetent at your "job" and survive for decades as an expat contractor, especially if you would suck up to 'em -- but screw up socially, by talking to the ninjas or dissing Islam or dissing a powerful Saudi with beaucoup wasta (this last reason is very common within Aramco) and you are on a plane in 24 hrs. Full stop. Now, with their demographics turning to total shit, they're replacing every expat they think they can get away with without ruining their oil production, in addition to the reasons stated above which have since sharpened dramatically, so areas like IT are where non-Muzzies are often forfeit on a whim.

Anyway, since I didn't want to get thrown out of the country, I listened politely and simply played tit-for-tat. Don't recall all of the specifics of the main long conversation, but I do recall that he was extremely frustrated because each argument was parried without effort. I did "tease" him a bit about their treatment of females as "pets" - at the good end of the scale - as it was an area in which I could needle him without much danger of being shot out of the saddle. We didn't seem to ever get to female castration and honor killing at the other end of the scale... Funny thing is, after failing, and knowing he failed, he didn't speak to me again. Go figure, huh? Lol.

To be honest, there were many like him who had spent time in the West, some even born here, and while they were lonely for conversation with us infidels (I was often accosted, lol), they were completely unwilling to give up their role in SaoodiLand as "Master" - even if circumscribed to their household. They all, every one I ever met, reverted to the Saudi norm upon return and were never to be counted as friends. They'd drop you in the hot grease without a second thought, if it served them. The old saw is, "You can be their friend, but never ever forget that they will never be your friend."

Some say the Saudis aren't the norm and yadda³ about how I'm unfair to non-Saudi Arabs n' Muzzies. Funny thing is, it's the Saudi money which does the barking and holds sway. That is where the Muzzy in the West is, and will continue, to gravitate - until the funding is cut off, at least. When a jihadi taps a passive on the shoulder and demands support - in whatever form - they comply. This is what the evidence clearly demonstrates. I will happily eat these words when the 101st Moderate Muzzy Brigade starts hanging jihadis and imams from the lampposts. I hold zero hope of ever "reforming" any, or encountering any "self-reformed", Muzzies - with "reform" meaning tolerance so they can live alongside another ideology or religion without attempting to foment violence and conversion. Zero.

My take, kind sir...

Posted by .com 2006-02-20 11:42|| 2006-02-20 11:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Prevert, .com??? You???

Could be LOL. But you're our favorite one ... heh.

Posted by lotp 2006-02-20 11:54|| 2006-02-20 11:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Lol, lotp. :) I prefer prevert, though I can't explain why, heh...

This is a bona-fide sign in use in Japan, or so I am told, so perhaps I was born on the wrong side of the planet, lol...

I think it means avoid the train, heh...

Posted by .com 2006-02-20 12:00|| 2006-02-20 12:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Prevert, .com? It's the fluorinated water, you know.

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2006-02-20 13:00|| 2006-02-20 13:00|| Front Page Top

#12 The American people welcome the exercise of freedom of conscience by adherents of the noble faith of Islam in the UK, and we again express regret at having supported polices that oppressed Islamists and inhibited their full participation in national life in the Middle East. We accept your blame, and express supreme guilt. Please accept both our apology and our copious aid to Islamist movements and governments.

Posted by State Department 2006-02-20 16:57|| 2006-02-20 16:57|| Front Page Top

#13 .com, you bring up a very important point. Logical fallacies may be verboten in the debating world, but they happen all the time in the real world.
Slippery slopes do exist and the camel is forever poking his nose under the tent flap.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-02-20 17:32|| 2006-02-20 17:32|| Front Page Top

#14 pervert.com is one of my favorite sites.

Mark me down as one who loves the .com stories.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-02-20 17:41|| 2006-02-20 17:41|| Front Page Top

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