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2008-08-13 Home Front: WoT
Al-Qaeda recruiting Americans for domestic terror
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Posted by lotp 2008-08-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 I wonder why groups like the Islamic Thinkers Society, openly support al-Qaeda in public rallies. Two weeks before 9-11, a Texas ISP dropped the website of the Islamic Circle of North America, because of complaints of open recruitment for jihad training in Afghanistan. And work by CAIR and the ISNA for the Gitmo terrorists, suggests willingnes to embrace their kind in mainstream Islam.
Posted by McZoid 2008-08-13 05:56||   2008-08-13 05:56|| Front Page Top

#2 CAIR lives off large donations from the Saudis. Their actual membership is measured in the low four figures, if I recall correctly.
Posted by trailing wife  2008-08-13 15:23||   2008-08-13 15:23|| Front Page Top

#3 LOTP: Nice catch...but be careful: if you bring these sorts of articles to our attention you could be labeled an anti-islamic bigot. You know...there are so many moderate muslims out there and so few radicals (oddly enough all of whom subscribe to the same ideology).

Tw is correct. CAIR does live off large donations from the KSA. It has for a long time. CAIR's "official" membership rolls shrunk post 9-11. Does that make CAIR pro-American and moderate? I think not.

Were CAIR's rank and file displeased with the behavior of their co-religionists on 9-11? No. I'm hard pressed to recall CAIR condemning by name OBL and his fellow muslim jihadis. Did CAIR condemn the celebrations and parties in the West Bank and Gaza post 9-11? No. CAIR held their parties. Discreetly.

Oh wait...maybe Mr. Hooper (CAIR's TV Rep) did go on television to say that "what happened on 9-11 was not right...in fact it was "wrong". Something to that effect.

But I came away from CAIR's statement wondering;

Did Mr. Hooper say that what took place on 9-11 was immoral? No, he did not. He did say that what took place on 9-11 was wrong and not right. Bravo, Mr. Hooper.

In the sense that it was "wrong" and "imprudent" to wake a sleeping giant is what I gleamed from Mr. Hooper. No need to worry Mr. Hooper. Many in the land of the giant still sleep. Too many.

I have no evidence to offer this audience that the membership rolls of CAIR shrank post 9-11 because there were so many wonderful moderate muslims in the USA who were sickened by their co-religionsits killing for the sake of their prophet, their koran, their religion. Old Spook says he knows many moderate muslims and just but a few radicals. He knows 'em personally so his opinion matters more than mine. I guess.

OS - did you ever ask the moderate muslims you say you know what they did post 9-11 and what they're doing NOW (and for the past 7 years)to combat mainstream orthodox islam - oops- sorry- meant to say - radical islam? I define moderate muslim as one not actively trying to kill me while (being supportive of) their radical co-religionsits who is trying to kill me?

ANY so-called muslim who is not practising, who is not observant, who disagrees with any of the dicatates of the koran is an apostate and not a true muslim. Get that straight people. Not my defination It's islam's definition, like it or not.

TW - damn right the membership rolls of CAIR fell off post 9-11. The muslims didn't want their names, addresses, and telephone numbers known to the sheepdogs. Here's hoping the sheepdogs have a list of CAIR's membership pre-911.

Best we can hope for is that the sheepdogs have not been infiltrated (very, very doubtful) and that they don't go soft and begin to suck up to the wolves in lamb's clothing.

Oh, almost forgot... that's right: Just like McZoid, I'm a paranoid anti-muslim bigot. I mean, hey, it's not like the USA or Eurpoe has ever faced a mortal enemy and was infiltrated by that same enemy, right? Hell man, you bigot MarkZ, you got your moderate nazis and you got your radical nazis. You got your moderate commies and you got your radical commies. You got your moderate muslims and you got your radical muslims We can never be infiltrated by the enemy. Could never happen. "Could neva happen...." Just cuz they ALL want YOU dead in the LONG run (per their ideology) doesn't mean a damn thing, right?

Posted by MarkZ 2008-08-13 18:07||   2008-08-13 18:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Contrary to the assertions, I do know 'moderate muslims'.

I also know the pressure they're under from radicals, the way in which they feel torn between those demands, their homesickness and the freedom they have here.

I linked this article because it comes from a top US official and represents a sober warning of the domestic threat we are facing.

It is not out of the question that we will see IED attempts within the US. If they occur, it won't create guilt for all US muslims. But it will most likely involve some -- quite likely converts of one sort or another.
Posted by lotp 2008-08-13 18:22||   2008-08-13 18:22|| Front Page Top

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