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2004-12-01 International-UN-NGOs
UN unveils sweeping blueprint for reform
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Posted by Steve White 2004-12-01 12:26:31 AM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 sound like a bit of gorbachovian perestroika to me--and will be just as effective
Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2004-12-01 12:59:27 AM||   2004-12-01 12:59:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Mostly it's about getting back at the US for going with a colition of the willing without Kofi's blessing. I don't think Kofi is going to last much longer. SOS different day.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-12-01 1:09:53 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-12-01 1:09:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 We're not trying to be invulnerable, Kofi. Just pointing out the fact that we don't need your permission to defend ourselves. Or to join with like-minded states to whack out obnoxious thugs.
Posted by mojo  2004-12-01 1:32:03 AM||   2004-12-01 1:32:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Opaque-nost is the UN's motto. Slap a study on it and the world will leave them alone to rape and pillage so the UN can reform.
Posted by Alaska Paul  2004-12-01 1:44:44 AM||   2004-12-01 1:44:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 More deckchairs! Yep, that will stop it sinking for sure.
Posted by phil_b 2004-12-01 1:47:32 AM||   2004-12-01 1:47:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Uh huh.... Get caught smack dab in the middle of the biggest theft in the history of theft and then call for "reforms". Well, the only acceptable reform is to GET THE u.n. THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!!

Withdraw all U.S. tax dollars from the u.n. PERIOD!! Without U.S. tax dollars the worthless u.n. will cease to exist. The u.n. is nothing without U.S. participation.
Posted by Floting Granter5198 2004-12-01 2:28:53 AM||   2004-12-01 2:28:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I like the idea of putting more dictatorships in the Security Council in order to balance out the hyperpower US from running amok, picking on poor third world nations and stealing their wealth Yep. That'll fix her.

Remember, capitalisim and democracy doesn't work. The reason we are successful is because we steal the resources of poor third world nations. The the UN and thus the World needs more involvment from Dinky Dictatorships in order to become a better place. I love this idea. Let this and graft be Kofi's legacy.
Posted by Ol_Dirty_American 2004-12-01 3:06:31 AM||   2004-12-01 3:06:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Comissioning a high level panel to make "sweeping recommendations" : $1 Million

Pronouncing the recommendations "meaningful" and promising significant overhaul for the "new millenium" : a couple-of-bucks

Ultimately not having to make any real changes, maintaining our corrupt anti-US-petrowhoring do-nothing-real place in the world while being able to take a swipe at the US in the process : pricele$$
Posted by PlanetDan  2004-12-01 6:19:46 AM||   2004-12-01 6:19:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 "The yearning for an international system governed by the rule of law has grown"
hahahahaha...Oh please someone make him shutup, he's killing me!
Hey retard, care to guess why? C'mon take a shot -it because you idiots have proven to be the most corrupt, feckless, criminally abusive, self serving whores ever to disgrace the international stage. Ignoring legitimate problems, blowing murderous dictators and funneling illegal payments to family members isn't what the world wants? Who da thunk it?
Its gratifying to see that my distain for all things UN is well founded.
Posted by JerseyMike 2004-12-01 8:01:44 AM||   2004-12-01 8:01:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Too bad that part of the 'reform' plan doesn't include leaving the U.S. Heck I would even help them pack.
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-12-01 8:26:32 AM||   2004-12-01 8:26:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Classic example of avoidance. Kof-ster: the first step is to admit the problem - your whole organization is corrupt, ineffective, and a waste of oxygen. Go away and bother us no more!
Posted by Spot  2004-12-01 9:01:08 AM||   2004-12-01 9:01:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 You know if this weren't so sad it would be funny.

Kofi the most corrupt politician ever known - responsible for the largest fraud the world has ever known, is trying to divert attention from the food-for-palaces/food/bombs program to this 'sweeping reform' of his criminal organization.

Here is some reform for you: Stop all funding of the UN from the US and form a new organization. Doesn't Japan also pay a huge amount to the UN as well? I bet we can get them to join us. On and kick the UN out of the US.
Posted by CrazyFool 2004-12-01 9:40:36 AM||   2004-12-01 9:40:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 
I expect that the US government eventually will approve of a major reform along these lines. The public and Congress will have a big debate about the details, but I think there has long been a consensus that the UN's structure (especially the Security Council) is obsolete.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-12-01 10:09:09 AM||   2004-12-01 10:09:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 
I expect also that the eventual support for the UN's reform will be very bi-partisan.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-12-01 10:22:52 AM||   2004-12-01 10:22:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#15  I think there has long been a consensus that the UN's structure (especially the Security Council) is obsolete.

Cleaned it up for ya, Mikey.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-12-01 10:26:00 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-12-01 10:26:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 and I want a pony for Xmas. Acceptable UN reform will be forced down their kicking and screaming throats. Too many otehr interests want to use the institution to tie down American power used in furthering American interests (like self defense). They will not accept reforms we want, ergo your beloved UN will die, Mike. Sorry for you, Sorry -not- for the UN....a corrupt kleptocracy of unelected bureaucrats from failed countries. Buh-bye, Kofi!
Posted by Frank G  2004-12-01 10:28:05 AM||   2004-12-01 10:28:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Bwahahahahah.

That's why Norm Coleman writes an article in the WSJ calling for KA to go.

He won't. Throws up this smoke scren instead as part of the Lilliputian tie down Gulliver strategy.

Gulliver lies down? I don't think so.

Coleman calls for the truth from Kofi and Volcker.

Gets nothing.

Coleman calls for cut off of US funding for UN until Kofi comes clean.

Nothing.

UN withers and becomes toothless debating society as US directly funds international agencies whose work it supports.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-12-01 10:30:37 AM||   2004-12-01 10:30:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 that current threats go beyond national boundaries, that no nation is strong enough to defend itself alone, and that not every nation will be willing or able to protect its own people or refrain from harming its neighbours.

You mean these blindingly obvious facts were not central to the original UN Charter in 1945?

The fatal flaw in the UN structure is its fetish of national sovereignty that's implied by the asinine mantra of "the world community." There is no such community. The harsh fact is that the greatest cause of third world misery is the governments of third world nations, at least 80% of which are brutal, incompetent kleptocracies. And many are nightmare regimes. Asking the permission or approval of these thugs for collective action is like asking a wife-beater to judge divorce cases.
Posted by lex 2004-12-01 10:38:58 AM||   2004-12-01 10:38:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 It's bad enough when the Neighborhood Beautification Committee is constantly accusing you of needing to change the color of your house, or re-plant the flower beds with something different...etc. It's intolerable when they are holding their meetings in your FAMILY ROOM!!

The u.n. will ALWAYS find fault first, last and always with the U.S. I prefer they do it SOMEWHERE ELSE!
Posted by justrand 2004-12-01 10:40:14 AM||   2004-12-01 10:40:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 I doubt any UN reform will be of more than marginal significance (not that marginal improvements might not be helpful). Doesnt mean the UN will die (sorry folks) but it wont grow in importance either. UNGA will remain a debating society and diplo gathering place, UNSC will remain useful in coordinating efforts in SOME instances where ALL great powers are on the same side, and the technical agencies will (with some exceptions) do good work. Nothing more.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-12-01 10:46:23 AM||   2004-12-01 10:46:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 I saw the headline, clicked and expected to see it be a link from Scrappleface. Go figure...
Posted by eLarson 2004-12-01 4:16:34 PM||   2004-12-01 4:16:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 These reforms are the equivalent of drawing spots on a pig with a magic marker and calling it a cheetah.
Posted by RWV 2004-12-01 9:19:03 PM||   2004-12-01 9:19:03 PM|| Front Page Top

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