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2004-12-01 International-UN-NGOs

Europe should be Bush's partner of choice

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Posted by Steve White 2004-12-01 12:41:14 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I read this OPED and this guy is an EU syncopant it's plain. The EU has proclaimed is't self as a "counter weight" to the US With France and Germany at it's lead. A look at the war like anti US propaganda that is passed off as news in europe is criminal. He thinks we take the UK and Tony Blair for granted we do not. He says "...the British, French and German foreign ministers act effectively together to head off Iran from becoming a nuclear power." No they have assured that Iran will become armed with nuclear weapons. Nothing less. Asshats.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-12-01 1:39:44 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2004-12-01 1:39:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Thanks Steve,I needed a good laugh. You have to wonder if some of these people actually live on Earth. I really liked second paragraph where only UN can authorize a war,but the US has weakened that authority.
India and Pakistan managed to have a couple of wars w/out UN approval. Israel and assorted Arab nations have managed to fight several wars w/out the Security Council's approval. Russia and Afghanistan. China and Russia,VietNam and India. Britain and Malaysia,Argentina. France and Algeria. The US and VietNam,Panama,Grenada. Nato and the Balkans. And so on and so on...

In fact offhand the only wars I can think of approved by the UN are Korea and the First Gulf War. Technically the Second Gulf War could be considered the resumption of hostilities after the cease-fire agreement was violated,so it's covered also.

Posted by Stephen 2004-12-01 2:27:37 AM|| 2004-12-01 2:27:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The guy's a real Douglas, that's for sure. (Eponymous rhyming slang.)

Posted by Bulldog 2004-12-01 3:33:56 AM|| 2004-12-01 3:33:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The Europeans really go in for these ridiculously pompostic articles that one cannot imagine being written without more laughter than the scripters of Monty Python working on their next tome. How can they ever expect to be taken seriously?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-12-01 8:00:03 AM|| 2004-12-01 8:00:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 How can they ever expect to be taken seriously?

I believe the EU Constitution specifies that all Europeans are to be taken seriously.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-12-01 8:10:43 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-12-01 8:10:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#6
Robert, I posted a last-minute but long response to one of your comments in yesterday's thread about Chamberlain.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-12-01 8:16:48 AM|| 2004-12-01 8:16:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 We done Mike. And we all clapped, really. Chamberlain's your idol. He did everything that was humanly possible to deal with Hitler, only for Churchill to steal the glory. We get it.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-12-01 8:32:34 AM|| 2004-12-01 8:32:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Forgive my ignorance,but isn't a partner supposed to help,not hinder?

Posted by raptor 2004-12-01 9:12:31 AM|| 2004-12-01 9:12:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Odd, Mike, that the "rearmament program" you point to as being Chamberlain's baby left Britain in such piss-poor shape at the start of the war. Almost like it was too little, too late.

I also like the bit where critics accuse him of being a "war mongerer" for the lackluster job he did. It's not like you can't find a peacenut who will call buying a cudgel "the start to a dangerous arms race".

*Yawn*

Call me when you stop worshipping failures like Chamberlain and criminals like Annan. Maybe then you'll be worth arguing with.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-12-01 9:20:46 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-12-01 9:20:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I believe the EU Constitution specifies that all Europeans are to be taken seriously.

Yep, it's right there in the list of 'rights' granted by the Union to its citizens.

Posted by Pappy 2004-12-01 10:24:10 AM|| 2004-12-01 10:24:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Nice threadjack, Mike. Back in da Doghouse with you!

Posted by Raj 2004-12-01 11:05:41 AM|| 2004-12-01 11:05:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Where the USA has a Bill of Rights, the EU proposes a List of Privileges.

Rights are part of human nature, inalienable -- they come with one condition, that you respect the rights of fellow human beings. Privileges, ah privileges, are granted at the pleasure of the State, ephemeral --they come with many strings, the whims of the collective and of bureaucrats.

The two political philosophies are incompatible. One protects the individual against the State, the other makes him a subject of the State. Hence all the wondrous European noises and editorials.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2004-12-01 11:45:32 AM|| [http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/] 2004-12-01 11:45:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Cripes, Kalle! Aris threadworm coming in 5...4....3...

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-01 11:52:44 AM|| 2004-12-01 11:52:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Sorry, blogging isn't explicitly on the EU list of priveleges, so Aris will no longer be joining us.

Posted by Dishman 2004-12-01 10:17:59 PM|| 2004-12-01 10:17:59 PM|| Front Page Top

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