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2007-03-30 Britain

Daily Telegraph Columnist - Heading for war with Iran?

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Posted by mrp 2007-03-30 08:48|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 We may dismiss the statements by the British captives admitting fault as blatently false, coerced readings, but many around the world do not. That number will grow too - Goebbels understood that you can make most people believe even the most outrageous lie if you tell it often enough and strongly enough. Once enough people doubt the British position sanctions won't be enforcable. The West continues to be beaten in the propaganda war, which is one place we SHOULD hold all the advantages.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-03-30 10:23|| 2007-03-30 10:23|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't understand why the British don't simply remove their diplomatic personnel from Tehran and then give them an ultimatum: return the prisoners within 24 hours or your oil refinery will be nothing but a mass of twisted, smoking wreckage. And, after that, if you harm the first one of our soldiers we will destroy ever Iranian oil platform in the Gulf. The MMMs think they've got the upper hand. What they need to discover is that they've grabbed a lion by the tail and he's now VERY angry.

Posted by Mac 2007-03-30 10:31|| 2007-03-30 10:31|| Front Page Top

#3 "I start to wonder whether it might not be time for us to get as nasty with other countries as they do with us."

You-- and we as well-- should never have STOPPED getting as nasty with other countries as they do with us.

The world overall would be a MUCH better place for everyone in it, if the Anglosphere did some serious ass-kicking instead of all this "civilized", diplomatic farting-around.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-03-30 11:42|| 2007-03-30 11:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, at least SOME brits are getting it.
Hopefully more find that the UN and the EU path is the path to slow death and ruin.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-03-30 11:50|| 2007-03-30 11:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Funny how some people ready to see the light---once their own bull is gored.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-03-30 12:41|| 2007-03-30 12:41|| Front Page Top

#6 I can't believe I'm reading this in the Telegraph.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-03-30 14:50|| 2007-03-30 14:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Notice what the writer thinks "getting nasty means: univiting Russia to G-8 meetings, deploring rather than expressing grave concern, unilaterally imposing stricter sanctions on Iran of the sort that the writer acknowledges only enriched Saddam Hussein at the expense of his people. The pivot of this piece is this one sentence paragraph:

We dont have the means to engage in gunboat diplomacy with Iran, and any special forces operation would be fraught with risks both for the hostages and their rescuers.

All the rest is an attempt to gild fecal matter.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-03-30 15:44|| 2007-03-30 15:44|| Front Page Top

#8 They got a National Christmas Tree they can dim? Put every flag in the country at half mast?
Give Jimmy Carter a call. He can fill you in on all the details...

Posted by tu3031 2007-03-30 15:54|| 2007-03-30 15:54|| Front Page Top

#9 It's pathetic when the British upper lip is stiffer than its ... er, backbone. Yes, backbone is the word I was looking for. Where's all their uppity toffee-nosed blather about "Soft Power" now? Power is a mailed fist, not some flaccid noodle.

Nowhere, nowhere has the West inflicted greater harm in return for what was done to it by Islam. Where's the punishment in that? If we're being stabbed, what use is it to only kick our attacker in the shins?

Damaging the West, and even just threatening it, should be rewarded with an order of magnitude greater retaliation. When ten Muslims die for every Westerner in whatever latest Islamic atrocity, maybe then we'll see some results. The actual number is probably more like two orders of magnitude but I'm willing to start slow.

And, please, do not try to use Iraq as an example of civilian casulties outnumbering that of our troops. Civilian Iraqis have been killed almost exclusively by their fellow Muslims. If someone has the actual civilian Iraqi death toll directly attributable to American troop actions, I'd love to see it. I'm confident it hovers somewhere well below 50% of our own losses.

Islam must be made to feel our pain. Bomb our trains, watch some revered shrine get demolished, preferrably at prayer time on Friday. Fly loaded passenger jets into our occupied skyscrapers and kiss goodbye a major metropolitan center in the MME (Muslim Middle East).

We must institute disproportionate retaliation if we are ever to have any hope of getting Islam's attention. Muslims must be taught to quake in petrifying fear of hearing about some new Islamic atrocity. The lot of them must be inspired to abandon their cities in anticipation of carpet bombing whenever another Islamic atrocity happens. They must be so inconvenienced and bedeviled that with each new terrorist attack they rush off to the nearest mosque and slit the Wahhabist imam's throat.

Once Muslims are feeling greater pain than we are, perhaps then we'll begin to see some changes. Until then, we are only rewarding their infantilism and savagery. Not too good of a policy, that.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-03-30 23:04|| 2007-03-30 23:04|| Front Page Top

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