Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Sat 12/08/2007 View Fri 12/07/2007 View Thu 12/06/2007 View Wed 12/05/2007 View Tue 12/04/2007 View Mon 12/03/2007 View Sun 12/02/2007
1
2007-12-08 Home Front: Culture Wars
Court allows group to picket soldiers' funerals (Phelper cult)
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Angique Gonque2974 2007-12-08 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6462 views ]  Top
 File under: Global Jihad 

#1 if the police would take a looooong donut break and quit providing protection to these assholes at every protest, this shit would stop toot-sweet
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-08 05:50||   2007-12-08 05:50|| Front Page Top

#2 I agree, Frank, but also take comfort in knowing that Hell is for ever.
Posted by Bobby 2007-12-08 06:19||   2007-12-08 06:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Inflicting the Phelps clan on us is the best evidence God is angry with us about something.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-12-08 07:19||   2007-12-08 07:19|| Front Page Top

#4 These f***ing judges....
Posted by newc">newc  2007-12-08 07:23||   2007-12-08 07:23|| Front Page Top

#5 Actually, this is a good thing. Phelps and Family will rot in hell for eternity, but the rest of us can be sure that when we speak out against radical Islam, that CAIR will be cursing Fred Phelps.

Thank God for the Patriot Riders and here's to hoping that Fred and Family are particularly sensitive to hot AND cold.
Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2007-12-08 07:43||   2007-12-08 07:43|| Front Page Top

#6 What 4611 said.

Posted by Thomas Woof 2007-12-08 09:26||   2007-12-08 09:26|| Front Page Top

#7 A federal appeals court Thursday sided with a Kansas woman who believes that God’s hatred of homosexuality requires her to picket funerals for American soldiers holding signs that read “Thank God for Dead Soldiers” and “God Blew Up the Troops.”

Shirley Phelps-Roper is part of a Topeka, Kan. church that contends God is punishing the United States for permitting homosexuality by killing soldiers.


And like most liberal lawyers, they're cowards to the core: If their real beef is homosexuality in america, then why not have the guts to hold up placards that say, “Thank God for Dead Soldiers and Queers” and “God Blew Up the Troops Today. Gay Bars Tomorrow”?

Don't tell me the Gays don't know about this. They Do. Where the hell are they, picketing THESE guys? Why aren't these judges, if they're saying insulting dead soldiers is a constitutional right, striking down PC rule forbidding the criticism of the Gay lifestyle?

They aren't because it's all a damn con game. The dems, Gays, Phelps, and judges are all winking at each other, confident in the media hiding the winks from the rest of us dumbass country bumpkins. Hell, white-power jackasses get thrown in jail for implying less than what phelps is doing.

Damn con game.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2007-12-08 09:36|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2007-12-08 09:36|| Front Page Top

#8 Judges are becoming the new dictatorship. Free speech is great, but as the saying goes, not shouting "FIRE" in a movie theater. There is free speech and expression, then there is harassment. That is what this is, harassment and should be illegal.

The lawyers and judges day is coming, much like Phelps' day is coming.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-12-08 10:02||   2007-12-08 10:02|| Front Page Top

#9 Do Phelps' whelps have a church building somewhere in Kansas? Just curious what would happen if people sat outside of it all the time picketing their idiocy. Or maybe just videotaping the people who go in and out.
Posted by eLarson 2007-12-08 10:11|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-12-08 10:11|| Front Page Top

#10 What the 'court' and the 'lawyers' forget is that they derive their powers from the consent of the governed. That when they become destructive of those rights, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it. That doesn't necessarily take the form of open rebellion. It can simply be their choice to be removed from the rituals of the legal profession. Case in point. The legal professionals uses the term vigilantism to describe what happens when their system fails the people, because they consider it a threat to their POWER, not justice.

Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. The Phelps are swinging hard and making contact. They deny others their right of free and peaceful assemble and the right to associate.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-12-08 12:21||   2007-12-08 12:21|| Front Page Top

#11 The nutjobs do have a right to free speech and the Mo law is on the face of it a violation of the first amendment. But having the right to say something doesn't absolve you from the consequences of having said it. I can call you a son-of-an-algore and have a first amendment right to do so. The 1st doesn't prevent me from getting a broken nose however.
Posted by Pliny Cheaper4459 2007-12-08 12:34||   2007-12-08 12:34|| Front Page Top

#12 No one is paying attention to Phelps. But legally, his action and the federal appeals decision has set a precedent that will work both ways. Remember the Randall Terry rescue missions at abortion clinics? They were arrested and tried under RICO (IIRC). With this decision I believe you will now see more protest sympathetic to conservative and right positions that have been on hold for a while.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2007-12-08 13:40||   2007-12-08 13:40|| Front Page Top

#13 OK, so can the KKK go to black people's funerals and hold up signs and chant saying "All Niggers Must Die"?

Apparently so.

THe courts have lost their mind - this is akin to yelling Fire in a theater, and a justifiable limit on free speech.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-12-08 14:46||   2007-12-08 14:46|| Front Page Top

#14 Apparently, the Ninth Circus Court has extended its franchise to the Eighth.

No one is stopping Phelps and his moron associates from marching down Main Street. A funeral is essentially a private function, even though they are held outside. I'm quite OK with "You can do whatever you want. You just can't do it here" as a legal principle.

Posted by SteveS 2007-12-08 15:23||   2007-12-08 15:23|| Front Page Top

#15 Sunna-of-Algore? Thisn a family blog!
Posted by Eohippus Slilet8185 2007-12-08 16:01|| LiversRus]">[LiversRus]  2007-12-08 16:01|| Front Page Top

#16 Gore invited Phelps to both the 1993 and 1997 Clinton inaugurations

wow! Can you imagine if that had been Cheney?
Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2007-12-08 16:24||   2007-12-08 16:24|| Front Page Top

#17 I can here Algore complaining that you noticed:
"Hey, I cancelled the ChiCom invitations....you people just won't be satisfied, will you? Excelsior!"
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-12-08 16:34||   2007-12-08 16:34|| Front Page Top

#18 Remember the Randall Terry rescue missions at abortion clinics? They were arrested and tried under RICO (IIRC). With this decision I believe you will now see more protest

Doubtful. The RICO-tactic was successful because it was a combination of creative lawyering by well-funded groups and a sympathetic legal system.

The chances of a non-sympathetic group getting the same treament as these whack-jobs is nil.
Posted by Pappy 2007-12-08 21:52||   2007-12-08 21:52|| Front Page Top

#19 Doubtful. The RICO-tactic was successful because it was a combination of creative lawyering by well-funded groups and a sympathetic legal system.

The chances of a non-sympathetic group getting the same treament as these whack-jobs is nil.


anyone who's paid the slightest attention to Federal court cases would agree it ain't fair.. but whoever suffers the belief that our courts dispense fairness still looks for quarters underneath their pillows.
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-12-08 22:26||   2007-12-08 22:26|| Front Page Top

#20 eLarson, Hard to do. Topeka is the asshole of Kansas - they blend right in.

What P2K said. And yes, thank you Patriot Guard/Riders et al.
Posted by swksvolFF 2007-12-08 23:41||   2007-12-08 23:41|| Front Page Top

23:57 swksvolFF
23:47 gorb
23:45 Red Dawg
23:41 swksvolFF
23:41 Red Dawg
23:20 Alaska Paul
23:09 Alaska Paul
22:43 ryuge
22:39 Gabby Cussworth
22:29 Dave D.
22:26 Anonymoose
22:26 Red Dawg
22:09 Frank G
22:09 Red Dawg
21:52 Pappy
21:30 M. Murcek
21:12 danking70
21:09 danking70
21:05 phil_b
21:04 Frank G
21:00 Frank G
20:49 gorb
20:46 gorb
20:42 Zhang Fei
Merry-Go-Blog










Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com