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2007-12-10 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Organs from drug addicts used in transplants
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Posted by lotp 2007-12-10 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6462 views ]  Top

#1 Typical media headline. Organs are in short supply, is it better to have half a loaf rather than none?

If it had gone the other way, the press would be reporting "heartless doctors refuse perfectly good, if a bit used organs"
Posted by gromky 2007-12-10 03:43||   2007-12-10 03:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Good Lord! The organleggers turn out to be the guvmint.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2007-12-10 06:12||   2007-12-10 06:12|| Front Page Top

#3 "Presumed consent" is the ultimate end in the NHS socialism.

The state owns your body.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2007-12-10 07:36||   2007-12-10 07:36|| Front Page Top

#4 gromky, addicts have poor nutrition. Addiction screws up a lot of the body's systems.

"Perfectly good" is not at all guaranteed in this situation. Moreover, the transplant recipients were not told of the origin of these organs. Like the guy who got this liver:

one donor died from an overdose of paracetamol which can cause severe liver damage yet the liver was transplanted into a patient.

Now, maybe if told he would have taken the risk. His case was, after all, urgent. But liver transplant is difficult under the best of circumstances. This was incredibly risky for him -- and he wasn't informed.
Posted by lotp 2007-12-10 08:30||   2007-12-10 08:30|| Front Page Top

#5 And in case the new liver fails patient will have to go through a second jeopardy.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2007-12-10 08:42||   2007-12-10 08:42|| Front Page Top

#6 Next they will be telling us Soylent Green really is people.
Posted by SteveS 2007-12-10 08:59||   2007-12-10 08:59|| Front Page Top

#7 Liver transplant patients are told the condition of the Liver at least in a in a general way.. It's a fairly involved subject as to what defines a "good" Liver.

anyway In order to ask your Doctors an intelligent question you'd need to have at least some edumaction and background knowledge on the subject.

I'm sure if you are at the point of dying [and most liver transplant patients are btw] you aren't to picky if all that's available for you is a B+ or C- Donor Organ. The difference between a sick totally failed Liver and a less than perfect Liver is like day and night.

Many more folks die from the want of a liver than from a complication from a less than perfect Liver.

I know someone who had Back to Back Liver transplants because the first transplanted liver failed right away.. wouldn't start! [call AAA]
Posted by RD">RD  2007-12-10 13:11||   2007-12-10 13:11|| Front Page Top

#8 and just WHY are we NOT using executed criminal's organs (I know, I know, just to put the concept out there in non science-fiction land)
Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-12-10 15:52||   2007-12-10 15:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Redneck Jim,
That would theoretically be possible, but many types of executions also make the organs unsuitable for organ donation. There was a convict in Florida that appealed his death sentance on the grounds that electrocution would prevent him from being able do donate his organs.

Don't know what became of the case. Maybe some Floridians remember it.

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-12-10 17:44||   2007-12-10 17:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Because we'll start executing people for reckless driving, Jim.

Yes, I remember that Larry Niven story.
Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow  2007-12-10 20:48||   2007-12-10 20:48|| Front Page Top

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