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2007-12-10 -Lurid Crime Tales-
4 shot outside Colorado Springs church
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Posted by Fred 2007-12-10 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [252 views ]  Top

#1 UPDATE: 2nd Victim Dies in New Life Church Shooting A second person victim has died after a shooting at New Life Church on Sunday. The unidentified person died shortly after 10 p.m. Sunday night.
During a late-night conference on Sunday, Colorado Springs Police Chief Richard Myers told reporters a female security guard shot and killed the suspect, after he had already shot 5 New Life members, killing two. One of the victims was treated at the Church and released. Three others were taken to Penrose Hospital. One of those was treated and released. One of the victims died shortly after 10 p.m. Sunday night. The other remains in fair condition.

Meanwhile, Colorado Springs Police have confirmed they are working with Arvada Police on executing a search warrant in connection with the shootings at New Life Church.

(Authorities believe there may be a connection between this shooting and the one at the Youth With a Mission center in Arvada near Denver.)
Posted by GK 2007-12-10 02:31||   2007-12-10 02:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Sad, but it could have been worse - glad this security guard was a good shot (and willing to shoot.) It will be interesting to see if there is a connection with the Arvada shooter (could even be the same guy?) Both were presumably violently anti-Christian, and Liberals tend to use the courts rather than guns, so who could possibly be behind it? What ideology might motivate a young man to shoot up a bunch of peaceful practicing Christians?
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-12-10 08:39||   2007-12-10 08:39|| Front Page Top

#3 This is why no area should be a "Gun Free" zone. Shooter was popped as he entered the church. Good on the security guard for doing what had to be done.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-12-10 09:57||   2007-12-10 09:57|| Front Page Top

#4 The man shot five people before an armed security officer confronted him.

She shot and killed the gunman and probably, in the estimation of Chief Myers, "saved many lives today."

She??? Impressive.
Posted by Anon4021 2007-12-10 11:19||   2007-12-10 11:19|| Front Page Top

#5 They released the victims names.

A father was seriously wounded and his two teenage daughters were killed. Very sad. Good thing they had armed security guards waiting for the shooter as he came inside the building.

And yes, it was a female volunteer security guard that took the slimeball down. There are still unconfirmed reports he had a bulletproof vest on, so that was a good shot if true.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-12-10 11:32||   2007-12-10 11:32|| Front Page Top

#6 Also unconfirmed reports he had explosives in his vest as well as planted around the campus. The New Life Church also had a Youth with a Mission office on site, connecting them.
Posted by Danielle 2007-12-10 11:40||   2007-12-10 11:40|| Front Page Top

#7 The media initially gave the exact address where the search warrant was executed this morning, then changed it to the block number. I was able to find it in a google search and eventually determine that the home is owned by a prominent area physician. The physician has a 21 year old son.
I won't post the names until there is official confirmation. The family has no radical connections that I could find, but that is scarcely conclusive.
Posted by Angique Gonque2974 2007-12-10 13:43||   2007-12-10 13:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Confirmed: the dead shooter is 21 year old Matthew Murray, son of a prominent neurologist.

I was actually hoping I was wrong about the shooter. Being able to ID him so early from far-off Texas is really kind of spooky. It makes me wonder what a real 'net sleuth could find out about me or anyone else.

Posted by Angique Gonque2974 2007-12-10 14:49||   2007-12-10 14:49|| Front Page Top

#9 When are they going to start calling this a hate crime? Never mind.
Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger  2007-12-10 15:06||]">[]  2007-12-10 15:06|| Front Page Top

#10 Now I'm gonna have to change my name....
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-12-10 15:21||   2007-12-10 15:21|| Front Page Top

#11 She??? Impressive

That why they call it "the equalizer".
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-12-10 15:24||   2007-12-10 15:24|| Front Page Top

#12 I wonder what kind of awards she'll get from feminist organizations?

Posted by Angique Gonque2974 2007-12-10 15:48||   2007-12-10 15:48|| Front Page Top

#13 "God made all men, but Colonel Colt made 'em all equal."
Posted by mojo">mojo  2007-12-10 17:10||   2007-12-10 17:10|| Front Page Top

#14 Don't hold your breath, AG. Guns are sooo icky!
Posted by SteveS 2007-12-10 17:17||   2007-12-10 17:17|| Front Page Top

#15 Just saw the security guard's press conference -- she is deeply religious, and spoke about God being w/her through the ordeal (when she dropped the perp like the sack o' shite he so clearly was) -- you could almost here the press types squirming while she spoke eloquently and thoughtfully about her faith.
Posted by regular joe 2007-12-10 19:51||   2007-12-10 19:51|| Front Page Top

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