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2008-02-06 Afghanistan

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Posted by Steve White 2008-02-06 10:40|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Today America may decide that the next presidential election will be between John McCain and Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. All three recognise that America must continue to be the ideological and physical arsenal of democracy. Thank God.

I'm not so sure about that. Hillary blows whichever way the polls point and Obama has not been a noted WOT supporter. I don't see either with the internal conviction necessary to convince allies to follow or to proceed alone.

Posted by DoDo 2008-02-06 11:43|| 2008-02-06 11:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Obama has not been a noted WOT supporter

Quite the opposite, in fact.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-06 11:45|| 2008-02-06 11:45|| Front Page Top

#3 The fact is the Islamists will claim credit anytime we leave anywhere. That is the risk of putting a single footprint in an Islamic nation.

"Yes the Americans killed every last one of us, but they left! They have no stomach for combat!"

We should avoid giving them big victories but at some point it can't run our policy entirely. The Afghans should be stepping up. Sometimes fear Uncle Sugar is gonna leave is what it takes to get others to step up.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-02-06 13:40|| 2008-02-06 13:40|| Front Page Top

#4 At this rate the islamofascists won't have to lift a finger to destroy the US. Your paranoia combined with some of your other characteristics will do it for them.

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 14:30|| 2008-02-06 14:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Really, Toronto troll, you grow wearisome. It's not the intentional disagreement here, but the limited number and shallow depth of the critiques that bores.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-06 14:41|| 2008-02-06 14:41|| Front Page Top

#6 Your name calling won't change the fact that you give the appearance of being plain whacked out paranoid. You don't need a PhD to make that argument.

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 15:21|| 2008-02-06 15:21|| Front Page Top

#7 victor -- i would say with your shallow responses you do need a phd to comment..give some substance and you will not be a troll...canadians will be a running to the US once little oh denmark really gets agressive in the artic...or maybe the ruskies..oh wait they have already laid claim..puhtak

Posted by dan 2008-02-06 15:35|| 2008-02-06 15:35|| Front Page Top

#8 Never be more concerned about someone else's security than they are concerned themselves. Don't waste American lives to fight for those who won't fight for themselves. That applies to NATO states, Afghans, Iraqis and Saudis. And it applies to Canadians in the burkha capital of North America, Toronto.

Posted by ed 2008-02-06 15:46|| 2008-02-06 15:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Dan, it's an observation that I've made, over the years. Fred would say I have a "prejudice" of sorts.

"Don't waste American lives to fight for those who won't fight for themselves."

And while making that statement Ed seems to have forgotten about the lives sacrificed fighting alongside the US in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Whenever you're in the Burkha capital of N.A. I invite you to take a car ride along the Highway of Heroes, to remind you of what you seem to easily forget.

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 16:09|| 2008-02-06 16:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Highway of Heroes

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 16:11|| 2008-02-06 16:11|| Front Page Top

#11 And how long before it is recommemorated as the 12th Imam Memorial Highway?

Posted by ed 2008-02-06 16:17|| 2008-02-06 16:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Go ahead, besmirch the memories of the fallen, if you wish. Seems the Burka wearers in Toronto have more honour than you.

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 16:25|| 2008-02-06 16:25|| Front Page Top

#13 It's your job to defend your civilization. Instead you take glee at the prospect of a neighbor's downfall. How small, mean and petty of you. Instead of strengthening your defenses against murdering barbarians, you choose to bury your head in the tar sand and let them do this crap in your hometown.

Posted by ed 2008-02-06 16:34|| 2008-02-06 16:34|| Front Page Top

#14 "Whenever you're in the Burkha capital of N.A. I invite you to take a car ride along the Highway of Heroes, to remind you of what you seem to easily forget."

That was then. This is now. Based on your history of postings at Rantburg, it is a bit hypocritical for you to be donning that mantle of the dead, no?

Posted by Crusosh Smith3454 2008-02-06 16:38|| 2008-02-06 16:38|| Front Page Top

#15 Oh, and then you choose to hide from criticism behind the gravestones of better men than you. Be sure to wave the Maple leaf flag from behind those headstones just to show what kind of man you really are.

Posted by ed 2008-02-06 16:39|| 2008-02-06 16:39|| Front Page Top

#16 I at least, remember my friends who have sacrificed everything for our common good, and don't call them burka wearers.

I don't take glee at the prospect of a neighbour's downfall, quite the opposite in fact: when it's evident to me that my neighbour's "my way or the highway" approach will lead to failure, I make sure my voice is heard. The worst and most dangerous type of neighbour is one who doesn't say anything when danger is near.

Crusosh, what on earth are you talking about?

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 17:05|| 2008-02-06 17:05|| Front Page Top

#17 Listen up VEA. I didn't call Canadian soldiers burkha wearers. I appreciate what the Canadian military is doing. I don't don't appreciate how many Canadians ignore the genocidal cultists who are rapidly immigrating you your shores, who consider you mokeys and pigs and your women as nothing but cat meat to be taken for their pleasure. I did say Toronto is filling up burkha wearing islamists who recently plotted to blow up the Canadian Parliament, CBC, and Canadian military barracks. I called Toronto the burkha capital of NA. According to the 2000 Canadian census:
5% of all Toronto population is Muslims, , making Toronto the highest concentration of Muslims in any city in the US or Canada.
There are 21 Federal ridings with 7% to 14% Muslim population which can emerge as a major electoral force.
If Muslim maintained the same growth rate as the last decade since the census, today Muslims in Canada number 753,480.
From 2001 to 2003, according to statistics from Citizenship and Immigration Canada, an estimated 132,600 Muslims immigrated to Canada. Thats a rise of 23 percent

Lets see, 23% rise in muslim infestation in 2 years gives an annual rate of 11%. Extrapolate 30 years and muslims form an absolute majority in Toronto (that's optimistically assuming Canadians have 2.1 kids). Wanna bet then the highway that honor Canadians in Afghanistan fighting Pakistanis keeps its name? But don't fret, it won't take 30 years. The muslims' knives will come out it's sheath well before then.

If you are not willing to defend Canadian civilization, don't expect your southern neighbors to do it for you. That is what is evident.

Posted by ed 2008-02-06 17:42|| 2008-02-06 17:42|| Front Page Top

#18 Typical fear-mongering. What of the Chinese and Indian immigrants? Do you have the numbers for those? Or are they just as bad as the Muslims?

Recent Immigrants in Metropolitan Areas: TorontoA Comparative Profile Based on the 2001 Census

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 18:32|| 2008-02-06 18:32|| Front Page Top

#19 The Chinese and Hindu immigrants don't consider themselves entitled to take up arms against their host nation, nor do they demand laws be changed to accommodate their habits, dear Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366. My charming Quebecoise mother-in-law has the same problems with the Muslim immigrants to her neighborhood in Lackawanna (Buffalo). Burka clad Yemeni women are in the habit of pushing her off the sidewalk, and there are loud demands for time and space for daily prayers in the public schools... not to be polluted by unbelievers. If you think that kind of thing is acceptable, then all the deaths commemorated on your Highway of Heroes will have been in vain, for what boots a nation to win the war abroad, if it surrender at home?

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2008-02-06 19:47|| 2008-02-06 19:47|| Front Page Top

#20 I will worry about the Hindus and Confucians when they believe stuff like this:
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war).

When you meet your enemies who are polytheists [Christians...], invite them to three courses of action. ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them

BTW, the first two verses are from the penultimate chapter of the koran. Any previous verses (when islam was weak) are abrogated by these final verses. Open your eyes VAE. You and your children ARE in mortal danger.

Posted by ed 2008-02-06 20:38|| 2008-02-06 20:38|| Front Page Top

#21 The Chinese and Hindu immigrants don't consider themselves entitled to take up arms against their host nation

Exactly. So I would think before Canada is doomed, radical Muslims would have to get by the Indian and Chinese and a myriad of other communities first, even the Quebecois, not to mention the Muslims who want no part of jihad and other religious nonsense.

You are also missing the growing backlash against multi-culturalism in Canada. The Conservative candidate for Ontario lost the election precisely because of his support for faith-based schools. At first he wanted to woo the Jewish community, but people aren't stupid and realized this would also mean funding for Muslim-only schools sooner or later.

So why are you fear-mongering?

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 21:09|| 2008-02-06 21:09|| Front Page Top

#22 Muslims DO believe in taking up arms against their hosts, especially if their hosts are unaware and has their backs turned. Do you believe the Hindus and Chinese will step in the path of muslims knives to save YOUR unprepared ass? Or will they worry about the safety of themselves and their families?

Posted by ed 2008-02-06 21:19|| 2008-02-06 21:19|| Front Page Top

#23 Great repost SW. Must have passed the link by the first time. Thanks.

It wouldn't have taken a PhD for Chamberlain to have made condescending cracks about Churchill's whacked out paranoia in 1938 either. Ten years down the road, we'll see if America's general response towards the war on Islamism is more effective than Europe's. Then we can see with whom Canada chooses to cast their lot.

Posted by ryuge 2008-02-06 22:46|| 2008-02-06 22:46|| Front Page Top

#24 "Ten years down the road,..."

You're still, um, preparing to attack Iran? Remember Iran? Everyone was so sure of it. Well, you still have a few months. Or maybe if McCain...nah...you won't vote for him, he's a rino.

"Do you believe the Hindus and Chinese will step in the path of muslims knives to save YOUR unprepared ass?"

Probably not, but neither would you so how are you any better than them?

I doubt that Muslims will become the majority any time soon. There's no reason to fear-monger.

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angalet7366 2008-02-06 23:45|| 2008-02-06 23:45|| Front Page Top

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