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2008-03-30 -Lurid Crime Tales-

No, the Large Hadron Collider wont destroy the Earth (Luddites fear otherwise, file suit)

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Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-03-30 01:28|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 The defendants will first have to convince their own lawyers to fight this, rather than recommend a precautionary shut-down. Since lawyers are to physics as cavemen are to spaceflight, that will take some doing.

Ive got it! Just remind them that there will be no liability suit if the plaintiffs are right. They will sign off right away.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-03-30 01:53|| 2008-03-30 01:53|| Front Page Top

#2 Lawyers? Spaceflight? Damn, man, where're those lawsuit papers I had already written up?

Sheite! The judges are no different. They've got the science knowledge of a flea when it comes to particle physics. All they care about is whether the suit has any validity in the law and that depends entirely upon how the lawyers present their cases (too much science and the judge is as likely to zone out as the jurists).

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2008-03-30 02:21|| 2008-03-30 02:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Note to physicists everywhere: Future projects should have more innocuous names. Thank you.

Posted by gorb 2008-03-30 03:44|| 2008-03-30 03:44|| Front Page Top

#4 I think you're onto something, gorb. How about "Big Love Fluffy Bunny Cuddler?"

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-03-30 04:18|| 2008-03-30 04:18|| Front Page Top

#5 A strangelet or "strange nugget" is a hypothetical object consisting of a bound state of roughly equal numbers of up, down, and strange quarks. ...

OMG. People Are Strange!

Posted by RD">RD 2008-03-30 04:21|| 2008-03-30 04:21|| Front Page Top

#6 RD, your gettin pretty good at this action at a distance stuff!

Posted by Thraviper Panda2099 2008-03-30 05:42|| 2008-03-30 05:42|| Front Page Top

#7 I think you're onto something, gorb. How about "Big Love Fluffy Bunny Cuddler?"

Nah. Too scary for liberals. Just name it something they'd understand like "Extramarital Earmark Circle Thingy" and let them argue over ~~spinning~~ renaming it to something more politically correct rather than canceling it.

Posted by gorb 2008-03-30 05:54|| 2008-03-30 05:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Of course this is all theoretical. Heh.

Been nice to know you and thanks for all the fish. :)

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-03-30 12:26|| 2008-03-30 12:26|| Front Page Top

#9 gorb: LHC=>Lotsa Happy Campers?
I just hope we can get all our stuff fixed and installed in time. After they fire up the beam (be it for ever so short a time) the caverns officially become radiation areas and work down there gets a lot more complicated.
The website above also points to a page with Sancho's theories. He seems to think galaxies are alive (and predatory). "arrows of organicism?"

Posted by James">James 2008-03-30 13:36|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-03-30 13:36|| Front Page Top

#10 The LHC is located in Switzerland and France?

I'm sure they're just jumping at the chance to obey an order from a US Judge in Hawaii...

Posted by john frum 2008-03-30 13:37|| 2008-03-30 13:37|| Front Page Top

#11 Though, the failure of the magets will delay startup

Posted by john frum 2008-03-30 13:44|| 2008-03-30 13:44|| Front Page Top

#12 The failed magnet...

Posted by john frum 2008-03-30 13:46|| 2008-03-30 13:46|| Front Page Top

#13 John, some U.S. Judges have authority over everything in the universe, just ask 'em

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-30 13:50|| 2008-03-30 13:50|| Front Page Top

#14 Only if they get permission from the UN, Frank.

Posted by lotp 2008-03-30 14:01|| 2008-03-30 14:01|| Front Page Top

#15 LHC: The international jigsaw puzzle

Posted by john frum 2008-03-30 14:07|| 2008-03-30 14:07|| Front Page Top

#16 My head hurts...

Posted by tu3031 2008-03-30 15:10|| 2008-03-30 15:10|| Front Page Top

#17 neat links and images John, Thanks

Updates on LHC inner triplet failure

On Tuesday, March 27, an "inner triplet" of three focusing magnets and other associated components failed a high-pressure test in the tunnel of the Large Hadron Collider under construction at CERN. This Web page provides updates, published in Fermilab Today, on the nature of the problem, on how the magnets will be fixed and on Fermilabs investigation into the root causes that led to the triplet failure.

Click Pic

The pic shows the "cryostat assembly" support structure/s that broke due to asymmetric mechanical loads. ....
Trouble Shooting:
In this case think of; a group of diverse parts and devices all of which are composed of various materials and systems. Then mate them to work as a unit, all the while the entire group is subjected to huge swings in temperature. [and when you are tasked to fix it, then you get STRANGE

Posted by RD">RD 2008-03-30 16:09|| 2008-03-30 16:09|| Front Page Top

#18 FWIW, the triplet failures are rumored to have been welcome in certain circles, since it gave them somebody else to blame for commissioning delays. Cool-downs aren't going nearly as fast as planned, apparently. Which is just as well, I suppose, since the detectors wouldn't have been ready in time for the original schedule either.

Posted by James">James 2008-03-30 16:28|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-03-30 16:28|| Front Page Top

#19 CERN has destroyed the universe several times and the universe has been replaced each time with something stranger. This is apparently the best explanation for Al Gore.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-03-30 17:01|| 2008-03-30 17:01|| Front Page Top

#20 Just name it something they'd understand like "Extramarital Earmark Circle Thingy"...

There's been a series about "The Black Hole Project", written by Michael Shara and Jack McDevitt, running in Analog. One of my (many, many) problems with the stories is that, if there were a project to artificially create a black hole, the last thing they'd call it is "The Black Hole Project". It's far too direct and sensible.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2008-03-30 18:43|| 2008-03-30 18:43|| Front Page Top

#21 IOW, NEW OWG SECULARISM > EARTH DEMANDS TO MAGNETICALLY ATTRACT THE SAME ASTEROID, PLANET X's,ETC. WHOM WILL DESTROY THE PLANET???

"God is still dead" - Earth can and does demand to destroy itself thank you???

JAMES EARL JONES in CONAN > showing new captive Da ARNUUULD/CONAN the true meaning of the "RIDDLE OF STEEL > "Come...Come to Me, my Child [space rock]".

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-03-30 18:55|| 2008-03-30 18:55|| Front Page Top

#22 Those clamps look like common hose clamps like one used to see on radiator hoses. They are not ment to resist much stress.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2008-03-30 19:02|| 2008-03-30 19:02|| Front Page Top

#23 The clamps were fine. "asymmetric mechanical loads" is shorthand for "Oh crud, we forgot about the forces along the structure." Much egg on faces at Fermilab, especially for the review committees that approved the original design.

Posted by James">James 2008-03-30 21:42|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-03-30 21:42|| Front Page Top

#24 They need some flanged bellows type fittings in line to take up the bends and the flexing. Basic engineering. Basic physics.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2008-03-30 22:04|| 2008-03-30 22:04|| Front Page Top

#25 send them a proposal, AP? I'm tied up with learning the new '08 CBC....2 damn notebooks.... yeesh

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-30 22:09|| 2008-03-30 22:09|| Front Page Top

#26 Scottie would have had it fixed in no time, and not a red shirted crewman would have been harmed.

Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-03-30 23:47|| 2008-03-30 23:47|| Front Page Top