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2018-06-05 -Short Attention Span Theater-
The Key Part Of RBG's Dissent In The Supreme Court ‘Cakeshop' Case
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Posted by gorb 2018-06-05 12:09|| || Front Page|| [9 views ]  Top

#1  "The Supreme Court may have dodged the issue for now, but it will not be able to avoid it forever."

Be careful what you ask for. You may not like a 'final' decision.
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-06-05 12:34||   2018-06-05 12:34|| Front Page Top

#2  It seems a private business can do what it wants as long as it doesn't harm someone

When we had rental properties back in the 1980s, we could not discriminate against potential tenants on the basis of race, creed, or color. We could only discriminate on the basis of whether or not they could afford to pay and had a credit history showing they could be trusted to do so. Since then, many states have added sexual orientation to the list.

The question then becomes whether your legal right to buy a product or service trumps my religious freedom right not to sell a particular good or service to someone like you. I seem to recall that the baker was willing to sell a premade cake to the gay couple but not to design one especially for them.
Posted by trailing wife 2018-06-05 13:29||   2018-06-05 13:29|| Front Page Top

#3 I 'discriminate' all the time. You're gonna bring up price multiple times before we talk about the size & scope of the job? Get lost, cheapskate. You're gonna be a pain in the ass and ask the same fucking question six times? Piss off. You're gonna ask me snotty, pretentious questions like 'what value can you add to my business?' right off the bat? Take a hike, like keeping your ass out of the IRS' crosshairs isn't 'value added' enough for Mr. Former IBM employee (figures).
Posted by Raj 2018-06-05 13:44||   2018-06-05 13:44|| Front Page Top

#4 When we had rental properties back in the 1980s, we could not discriminate against potential tenants on the basis of race, creed, or color.

But that's housing, which makes sense that you shouldn't discriminate. Should this extend to some guy who wants to make cakes?

He didn't create a business so the government could tell him what to do so much as follow health codes and pay taxes and wall off his personal finances from company liability. Why should the government intrude into the personal reasons he got into baking cakes? I just don't get it. Why bother to go into business at all if it's going to be like this? If this got bad enough, nobody would bake cakes. Or start any other small businesses for that matter.
Posted by gorb 2018-06-05 14:14||   2018-06-05 14:14|| Front Page Top

#5 I 'discriminate' on my rental as well. Since I live here, I simply have to say 'No, I don't like you' and that is that. I've been told I cannot reject based on Section 8 status, so I dodge that stuff and just go with the above response, which comes pretty naturally to me!
Posted by Raj 2018-06-05 14:33||   2018-06-05 14:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Can I demand that a Muslim halal deli, or a Jewish Kosher deli for that matter, prepare, stock and serve 'haram' foods?
"I want a pizza with cheese, canadian bacon and EXTRA pepperoni to Go."
Posted by magpie 2018-06-05 16:48||   2018-06-05 16:48|| Front Page Top

#7 He didn't create a business so the government could tell him what to do so much as follow health codes and pay taxes

See - No shirt, no shoes, no service
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-06-05 18:41||   2018-06-05 18:41|| Front Page Top

#8 "Read it, Know it, Live it"
Posted by Frank G 2018-06-05 21:51||   2018-06-05 21:51|| Front Page Top

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