Archived material Access restricted Article

Today's Front Page   View All of Thu 01/28/2021 View Wed 01/27/2021 View Tue 01/26/2021 View Mon 01/25/2021 View Sun 01/24/2021 View Sat 01/23/2021 View Fri 01/22/2021
2021-01-28 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Merck Scraps COVID Vaccines; Says It's More Effective To Get The Virus And Recover
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-01-28 07:16|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6574 views ]  Top

#1 "Troof" = When truth meshes with proof.
Posted by Flelet Omaitch6774 2021-01-28 08:20||   2021-01-28 08:20|| Front Page Top

#2 What is true about their proposed vaccines is not necessarily true about others. And what is true for the healthy majority is not necessarily true for those at higher risk of a severe response and/or complications.

But they are right to move their attention to efforts that will have broad application and less market competition. What they’re describing should work for the flu as well— or at least give direction for how to research something that could generate tens of millions of prescriptions a year.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-01-28 09:45||   2021-01-28 09:45|| Front Page Top

#3 My attorney and his wife went to get vaccinated right after new years. She is 75, he 73. She got vaccinated as she is 75. He was refused because he is 73. A week later he got covid. He died January 20. She also got covid but because of the vaccine she only got a light case.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2021-01-28 10:07||   2021-01-28 10:07|| Front Page Top

#4 #3 I've been to vaccination centers here in Israel four times now (twice escorting my mother, twice for myself) by appointment from our health service. Lots of people, of all ages, without appointment - nobody turned away.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-01-28 12:45||   2021-01-28 12:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Israel has clearly organized this effort well, g(r)omgoru. But you risk everything if the army — plus the portion of the population between 18 and 49 that are the reserves — can’t fight because too many are ill, even if they don’t need to be hospitalized.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-01-28 12:50||   2021-01-28 12:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Oh, the IDF does immunizations on it's own.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-01-28 12:52||   2021-01-28 12:52|| Front Page Top

#7 I kinda wonder abound the math here, when the general recovery rate is above 99%, but the vaccines are 95% effective.
Sounds like you'd be better off getting sick and getting over it.
Posted by ed in texas 2021-01-28 13:10||   2021-01-28 13:10|| Front Page Top

#8 /\ Or is there another reason Merck is pulling the plug ?
Posted by Besoeker 2021-01-28 13:38||   2021-01-28 13:38|| Front Page Top

#9  Sounds like you'd be better off getting sick and getting over it.

The same could be said about the flu, ed. I get the flu vaccine every year so that if I do get it, I won’t get as miserably sick. Society supports this because letting another 1918 happen is a really bad idea — and even in years when the vaccine(s) offered aren’t a great match for the virus that ends up breaking out and circling the world, still the impacts are less severe.

And given that the CDC reports death statistics for flu-related pneumonia as well as infection stats every year, it seems reasonable to think that the processes that result in those rare severe cases are long overdue for researching with an eye to better treatment. Much that is being learnt about why and how Covid goes bad will be useful for other diseases as well, I hope.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-01-28 14:14||   2021-01-28 14:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, assuming you recover from the virus.

Their definition of "effective" is not the same as mine.
Posted by KBK 2021-01-28 18:32||   2021-01-28 18:32|| Front Page Top

#11 It’s not a vaccine. It’s an experimental biological agent.
Posted by Speng Snaviting6874 2021-01-28 22:43||   2021-01-28 22:43|| Front Page Top

23:37 Hupith Cranter3378
23:21 Hupith Cranter3378
23:12 Andy Noodleman1166
23:05 3dc
23:03 3dc
22:53 Andy Noodleman1166
22:43 Speng Snaviting6874
22:41 Andy Noodleman1166
22:34 rjschwarz
22:30 rjschwarz
22:29 Deadeye Jaiting7534
22:27 Andy Noodleman1166
22:26 Deadeye Jaiting7534
22:25 Butch Hatfield8086
22:19 Rob Crawford
22:18 Andy Noodleman1166
22:17 Andy Noodleman1166
22:15 Butch Hatfield8086
22:10 Andy Noodleman1166
22:06 Butch Hatfield8086
22:02 Butch Hatfield8086
22:01 Andy Noodleman1166
21:58 Butch Hatfield8086
21:55 crazyhorse

Search WWW Search