[DailyCaller] Liberal Fox News commentator Marie Harf insisted on Friday that supporters of the Second Amendment can also question if people need “high magazine clips.” Video at the link
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Going out to buy some more high capacity bullet today myself...
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Those old white guys who wrote that document had some 20 years prior had been Englishmen. It was in their memory that they had experienced the military dictatorship of Oliver Cromwell. They had themselves just gotten rid of the King's army. They knew circumstances dictated that they need a standing army, if only a small one. However as a protection to man's unending thirst for power, to check the use of such power they entrusted the entire male population with the means to inhibit natural human hierarchical behavior. The militia was suppose to be armed with the same standard weapon issued to their soldiers. In 1792 that was a musket, in 2018 that is a derivative of an AR-15. Period. Everything that the Left has done has shown it to act in a manner that the Founders expected in human behavior and thus this guarantee to ultimately protect our lives, our liberties and our honor.
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Liberal Fox News commentator Marie Harf insisted on Friday that supporters of the Second Amendment can also question if people need “high magazine clips.”
Typical Donk liberal elite. Government apparatchik. She thinks she knows everything about everything and doesn't ever shut up long enough to learn anything.
[DAWN] NOW that the news from the just-concluded round of meetings of the Financial Action Task Force held in Gay Paree has been digested, it is important to focus on the fact that two countries that we are repeatedly told to think of in brotherly terms ‐ China and Soddy Arabia ...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face... ‐ both abandoned Pakistain during the proceedings, opening the way for the motion advanced by the United States to grey list the country’s financial system.
If there is one thing to learn from this episode, it must be this: in ties between countries, there are no ’friends’ and no ’brothers’. There are only interests and bargaining positions.
There is nothing wrong in speaking of friendly relations between countries, but behind closed doors, when the real bargaining gets going, only interests should be in the driving seat.
It is now becoming increasingly clear that Pakistain is drifting towards international isolation mainly due to its policy of using groups designated by the world community as terrorist outfits as instruments of foreign policy.
This was the main issue at the Gay Paree meetings. And this is the reason why Pakistain could find no ’friends’ there.
This is precisely the state of affairs that the civilian government has been trying to warn the security establishment about for a number of years now, including in a series of meetings in late 2016 ‐ but evidently, these conversations did not lead to the desired actions.
FATF has been seeking one thing primarily from Pakistain: "fully implement UNSCR 1267" ever since the country was taken out of the so-called ’grey list’ back in 2015. The last grey listing happened due to a failure to pass the Anti Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Act.
Once that act was passed in 2015, the next step was action against those groups and individuals that had been designated as Lions of Islam by the United Nations ...where theory meets practice and practice loses... The years since then have been witness to a powerful, behind-the-scenes tussle over the pursuit of precisely this objective. The stop-and-go manner in which this objective has been pursued, ie taking limited action one day and then allowing matters to once again deteriorate, has now come to the end of the line as FATF prepares to grey list Pakistain’s financial system one more time in June.
The world, which includes our brotherly friends whom the foreign minister thanked in a prematurely triumphant tweet on Tuesday, is not impressed with what they see as this country’s continued intransigence.
There may well be an element of geopolitics at play here too. But the opportunities that have been made available to them to tighten the screws on Pakistain are the products of a deeply problematic foreign policy.
The warnings are now pouring in continuously: act against bad boy groups, or risk international isolation. Pakistain would do well to heed them for its own sake.
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[ISRAELNATIONALNEWS] Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, was supposed to create an alternative religious nationalist ethos in contrast to the secular nationalism led by various Arab organizations. It failed abysmally to do so.
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During the 1400 years since the dawn of Islamic history, there were Muslim regimes that treated strangers with respect, refrained from attacking countries more powerful than they, and cared about the economic conditions of those living under their rule.
Unfortunately, they don't last long - Muslims long for 'real rulers'.
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Now, now, Danni: Ben Gurion wasn't that bad.
He (IMO) screwed up not cleaning the Arabs out from Israel in 1948 - nobody would notice at the time, and we would be saved endless problems. Especially if we followed the precedent in 1967.
And the absorption of Sephardic Jews could have done better - on the other hand, know any other country who absorbed twice it's original population in emigrants in a decade?
As regards Altalena, however, no country can afford independent military/political organizations - Israel wouldn't exist today if Altalena weren't sank.
[THEAUSTRALIAN.AU] Islamic State ...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems.... has been destroyed. The war is over. The free world is secure. Order is restored. The worst genocidal jihadis are dead. The rest are contained. Your family is safe to commemorate Anzac Day, celebrate Easter and walk through the CBD without fearing the infernal shriek "Allahu Akbar". There’s only one problem: here comes the bride, all dressed in black.
The black widows of Islamic State are creeping out of the caliphate and into the West. Having lost the battle to enslave women and girls for the caliphate, the brides of genocide are demanding the right of return to the countries declared enemies of Allah. They’re piling on feminine wiles to escape their well-deserved fate six feet under the crumbling caliphate. Prepare yourself for a season of female jihad filled with crocodile tears, protests of innocence and a stock-standard victim script worthy of an Oscar.
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Somehow the concept of equality disappears when it comes to responsibility for one's actions. File under - female privilege
Rolled over for a second day of discussions, as requested.
By swksvolFF
Wednesday nights some of us gather around the campfire and pick each others' brains, usually something about firearms. Not besieging Yorktown, but hey how is that holster, ya like it? Nothing usually serious but here I have a topic. I posted our conclusions in the O-Club but the response seems to be out of sorts. I will try to recreate with additions:
#1 At some point one of these volunteer defenders will shoot back and accidentally hit an innocent bystander. How are they, the school district, and the county to be protected from the inevitable lawsuits that will follow?
Seriously. I had to listen to Mr. Wife go on about that this morning.
Great question, because this will happen.
What we came up with is that there are pre-approved teachers/staff who will automatically be appointed Sheriff Deputy Pro Tem in the event of a shooting or other declared emergency. They will remain deputies until a ranking sheriff on-scene and/or incident commander relieves them of their temporary status. This will afford the teacher/staff legal, medical, and critical stress counseling benefits also afforded to the sheriff's department.
The sheriff, an elected position, is a county authority and can override municipal ordinances, city police, homeowner associations, and so forth.
Now, the sheriff is not going to like being exposed to said lawsuits, so there will need to be a certain degree of training required for said teachers/staff. At least the minimum conceal carry required by the state. I would suggest a marksmanship class. A first aid class with a focus on gunshot wounds would be good. Perhaps some time at one of those light gun places where they can run a trainee through real life scenarios. Deputy pro tems will be randomly drug tested, and after certification there will be refresher courses required.
Also for the sheriff's department to shield itself from lawsuits, there will need to be an agreed standard operating procedure for the teacher/staff if/when a situation develops, and there are going to be hard questions:
Are teacher/staff allowed to fire first? If so, under what circumstances?
Are teachers/staff allowed to actively pursue/engage shooter? If so, to what extent? Must teacher/staff end engagement to assist casualties before area is officially secure?
Are designated teachers/staff required to wear body cams?
Are designated teachers/staff required to identify themselves before action? If so, what commands and/or uniform is required?
Also, the Sheriff's Department could have a list of approved handgun and kit for teacher/staff, specifically a holster which is tamper proof so the firearm doesn't fall out or some student horseplay becomes tragic. Maybe actual restrictions on the firearm choice itself; no 1911s or Dirty Harry cannons.
Deputy pro tems will be professionally reviewed after any incident, just like permanent LEOs are.
I hear "If we can't afford crayons, how can we afford this!!11", a bullshit argument because out here parents purchase those school supplies. However, yes, this costs money. As far as training, there are a number of people who seem willing and able to provide pro bono training, if not at least a discount, to teachers/staff interested in such a thing. Our first thought is training and equipment could be written off as a business expense - firearm, 2 magazines, 200 rounds on time write off (addendum: have to pay that back if person leaves the profession). Another thought was philanthropy.
Another was increased pay. I was against this at first, as I considered this should be an all-volunteer program with none of the people who would enroll just for the pay increase. I did concede that the added responsibility, the equipment, and the time involved in trained does call for an increase in pay. Also, the increase in participation is a deterrent as well.
"Oh, but the budget is strapped anyway!" is a crock of shit. The money is there, it is just being used wrong or wasted. Equipment can be procured, perhaps with bake sales. Perhaps with reduced insurance rates. Perhaps a Safe School levy. Heck I have one just right over there I will likely never fire again, which would be perfect for such a deal. Guaranteed I'm not the only one.
****I think that covers the gist of the response. The rest is a post post post****
In light of that sheriff department being canvas bag full of snake shit, dunno, still an elected position yet subject to entrenchment. Now our Governor Brownback, among other things, standardized the firearm ownership laws so that every city and county has the exact same laws, eliminating the various city and county laws which in one way or another restricted firearm ownership.
Another thing which would work, and I think they just did this in Texas, is pass a law in which all government property that could not implement a secure area would allow the legal profession of a firearm. Sure, the big city courthouses would have their guards and detectors so no gun, but you go to a state park you are good to go. This was tried some four years ago, and the educational organizations started shitting porcupines causing the bill to get held up in the state congress, where I think it still sits.
Add this to constitutional carry, where a person can conceal carry without a license (training still highly advised, and being approved for a CC allows carry in reciprocity states), and we have all aspects except for legal protection, medical coverage if injured and stress counseling. A side effect of this law is local sheriffs could not automatically turn down conceal carry applications, which was happening.
Standardize the sheriff departments within a state on firearm procedures. Figure procedures at the county level for deputy pro-tem. Crap load of paperwork and lawyer time, but doable.
Please, this is an opinion piece by a circle of amateurs drinking decent scotch, and doesn't not represent the views of Rantburg or maybe even our own as we didn't break out the Big Chief notepad. If anything, this a conversation starter.
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My thanks to you and your Wednesday buddies, swksvolFF, for pondering my little question so usefully, and to you especially for taking the time to write up the conclusions.
I venture no opinion on weapons choices, not knowing anything about it.
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I venture no opinion on weapons choices, not knowing anything about it.
The best defensive strategy for this soft target is to not have any target clusters of children. Home schooling with 'tele-teaching' augmentation as necessary or appropriate.
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How did Cruz get into the building with an AR-15? I haven't seen any dicussion of this in the media? Seems like access to the building was lax. Was there perimter control of the grounds/building? Moreover, available info was not acted upon prior to the shooting. At least four sheriff's deputies were outside the building and didn't go into the school. Did the school have monitored video surveillance of the entranceways as well as the halls? Could a shooter be isolated, e.g. locked into a hallway to limit casualties? Arming trained teachers is fine but there were prevention measures that could have been implemented as well.
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Oh, great, give them a pea shooter that won't stop someone hyped on adrenaline, let alone any additional chemical additives. Stop means stop.
Had customers so big or so spun out I don't think anything less than a M2 would have solved foolishness right there, and nothing says dammit like letting customer check out a k-bar for sale and get that look on his face. I'm with you there.
The subparagraph there was the Sheriff's department will want a say in what its deputies carry. And here, especially with the holster (and this was brought up again at last night's campfire) where every school has at least that one kid who will and least want to prank someone carrying. At worse want to steal.
There was talk about not even carrying, but firearm in a lockbox. I think that is an absolutely horrible idea and defeats the whole purpose.
How did Cruz get into the building with an AR-15? I haven't seen any dicussion of this in the media?
Heh, I heard from the media he had it tucked into his waistband to conceal carry. There is security footage so somebody knows. Short answer is yes, then we get into bulk heads closing and all that. Did see a deal where a subject can be tracked real time, feed sent to LEO dispatch and forwarded on to responders with location.
Looks like every flag thrown was either picked up or ignored; total wiener flogging from macro to micro. There seems to have been every opportunity in the world, including after the shooting started, to cut this off. When people talk conspiracy to let this happen a la Roosevelt let Pearl Harbor happen, I have a hard to playing advocate because the pooch was so screwed it had two litters and begs for more. But that is ok, because the crime stats are down and graduation numbers are up in our sanctuary school. That means $$$$$$ for bonuses, raises, school board re-election, tenure and job security. Heck, probably need to hire two more secretaries to handle all this plan coming together. Crime stats down too, good for the local law enforcement come budget time. Yippie yippie yea! So to me, this isn't a firearm problem, looks like this shitmuncher was going to figure a way to hurt people no matter what.
To be clear, I think arming all teachers is a horrible idea. The thought is that those who choose the responsibility should have some legal protection with the caveat that actions are reviewable. Truth is some things some people should not be forced to do and expect anything other than a poor outcome. Firearms are definitely on that list, never mind the appropriate use of them. Rosie Odonnel on a ladder is another, then putting a chainsaw on her to cut down a limb.
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Some banks have a bullet-proof airlock type entrance that can be locked so a robber can be isolated and held as they try to escape. Combine with a metal detector and seal up anyone on their way into the school that sets off the system.
Not the total answer but it certainly wouldn't hurt.
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Initial word is he had a generic black soft bag to carry it in the Uber/Lyft he caught to get to the school, carry inside, and ditched
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That video has been out for a long time. Doing a penguin shuffle about your living room is not moving. Much more impressive if he came down the stairs, or got out of his car went up the stairs and came in through that door.
Someone walks down the road with a rifle nonchalant, especially with the magazine out, I'll likely keep track of that person in a checking the runner at 1st base kind of way. Dude waddles up, lifts his shirt, and starts pulling a rifle it is game on. Right there. By the time he dinks around bringing his rifle out, monkey paws his way through an overstuff pocket to bring out one magazine and come to battery, dead 5, 10 times. This dude is under no pressure, in his own home, in his Sunday besties; that is not getting throat punched knee kicked pepper sprayed or dick punched. Don't even have to be armed, just rush him and he'll fall as he maneuvers backwards with a rifle down his pants. The only thing going for derp is everyone has the hashtag fever and don't pull their noses out of their PED.
Case in point - the media is just now finding this video and someone saw somewhere that 'it is legal to conceal carry a rifle in Florida.'
*something I thought of concerning Sheriff having a say in firearm choice - have a color scheme. Cerakote in a Hello Kitty or Barney such color scheme to help identify good guys from bad guys.
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I suppose as every Sheriff could get M4, Hummer, APC and tracked vehicle 'military surplus' for their dept then a no cost stash of MilStd handguns and ammo for school district issue would also be possible.
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To me the real issue is how accurate would a non-combatant be with a firearm in a high stress situation.
That is why I love the good old 1911A1. You do not have to be a good shot to take the fight out of the enemy. Even if they have body armor, the impact of the .45 ACP is such that ribs are broken and the force of the impact is enough to knock someone off their feet.
You can shoot someone in the big toe, the thumb, nick an ear, or hit their weapon and they are down long enough for a more carefully aimed shot.
Just point it and keep shooting until the magazine is empty...by that time the kids are out of the room and the shooter is discouraged.
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Had some no experts put bad guys away just yesterday and one was 14. For every hit were some are killed, I see more saved daily with firearms.
11 minute average response time, failure to follow up on leads, in-ability to define standards of threat, in-ability to respond in action or even identify threat, In-ability to seek further intel of threat, failure to share threat-intel, failure to address and engage threat, failure for back-up to engage threat, failure for anyone inside of threat in-extremis to identify threat, cover or conceal, or engage threat.
Texas school districts can choose between two plans — the Guardian Plan and the School Marshal Plan — to authorize employees to carry a firearm on school property. Debate around arming teachers and staff has surged in response to the recent school shootings.
Dax Gonzalez with the association said the it is aware of only one district in Texas that established a policy to implement the School Marshal Plan.
Agua Dulce ISD opted for the Guardian Plan because it's a bit more flexible, Superintendent Wayne Kelly has said. Trustees approved the implementation of the Agua Dulce School Guardian Program on Oct. 24, 2016.
Teachers and staff had to undergo a mental health evaluation and 80 hours of training by the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement to carry a weapon at district campuses, Kelly said, adding each petition to carry also has to be approved by the school board.
The Aransas Pass ISD board also is weighing the option of adopting a modified version of the Guardian Plan after Aransas Pass Chief of Police Eric Blanchard proposed it to trustees.
Blanchard said district employees who would be Guardians should be nominated by staff, undergo a mental health evaluation, be licensed to carry a firearm and show proficiency in using a firearm by going through the police department's campus carry program.
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Thank You TW!
This helps so much. Just in case, I Warn of possible incoming from the faceburg or whatever, but I think this content should be timeless.
And secured by many.
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What about the enemy within, like the nimrod teacher in Cali who went on his anti-military tirade? Some of those types will seek to make guns in the hands of faculty a lawfare focus and you can bet lots of the union goons will be all in with that.
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I should think armored doors with serious locks could contain the problem to a single classroom (if everyone is too late) or to the hallways (if the warning went out quick enough).
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The teachers in schools where teachers are armed will probably have the undivided attention of the students since they will not know who is armed and who is not.
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My worry is that the shooters tend to come from the schools they shoot at, and they are also likely to know which teachers/buildings might be armed and which ones aren't.
Granted this is an extra level of complexity that might derail the plans before they even begin and thus worth a try, I'm just being devil's advocate.
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This is a very good discussion, thanks for the insights everyone. A couple of points.
1. Training should not be a one time event, it should be ongoing. Practice is required.
2. Time invested in training should not come out of teacher and staff vacation or free time.
3. This will still be a burden for some of the teachers and staff, so a monthly bonus is indicated.
4. This should be a federally supported (but not run) effort.
5. Lastly, the best close combat training I ever had involved being run through shoot houses. Training like this involves shoot / no-shoot decisions, shot accuracy and quick responses. It is very stressful (as they are timed and scored) and will be of immense value.
My two cents.
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the best close combat training I ever had involved being run through shoot houses
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A buddy of mine runs a armed teacher training program;
--Handguns are in a locked safe w/in the classroom.
--Access is restricted based on biometrics.
--When the safe is accessed, a 911 call is automatically placed.
--Teacher stays in classroom, herds the kids into a safer area, and only engage if AS enters classroom.
--This guy says he has more work than could ever handle. Some schools have been doing this for years. They just don't broadcast it.
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A buddy of mine runs a armed teacher training program;
Is this in Thailand? I understand Muslim separatists have been attacking Buddhist civilians, including teachers and monks, for a while now.
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Rule 1 No cowards in the Police force
If u are not ready to tackle armed killers ASAP then do not take the govts money
Go sell ribbons
2 We had at Parkland three , unarmed teachers who faced the armed maniac to protect their students. The assumptions here are that the teachers will not be reliable and intelligent in their use of weapons
How would they be less reliable than the uniformed police at Parkland or Columbine, or in Nashville or Ft Knox>
George Washington had only brave hearts to fight the Brit Army with-- Americans are no less courageous today see Viet Nam, Iraq etc
Guts count as much as guns, Dads and Moms and Brothers
and neighbors are far more reliable than a bunch of chickens in uniform
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