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NO boxer shorts for Larry King. The durable CNN star called yesterday to deny that two French photographers found a box of Depends adult diapers in his trash. "They must have been in someone elseâs garbage," King said. "Iâve never heard of Depends. I wouldnât know what a Depends looks like." The artists, Pascal Rostain and Bruno Mouron, who claimed they didnât know Depends are for adults, removed Kingâs garbage from their show in SoHo when they learned that the product is an incontinence aid for grown-ups. King revealed, "I wear Jockey shorts, briefs, size 32." Sure you do, Larry. Sure you do.
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The thought this makes me want to eat broccoli from The Doctor's wife and rub a cheese grater across my knuckles.
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Noticed it, it just helped to stir the vodka tonic I was sipping. Jesus loves me :-)
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Don't get too comfortable, Frank. This has to be putting pressure on the "hook" in the San Andreas north of the LA basin. When that lets go, watch out.
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Anyone else think this might have been a warning shot for the idiots at Cal State Irvine and their "shahada" sash scumbags? It's both a relief and a pity that mother nature has neither ability nor inclination to notice such human frippery.
Muslim students are to launch a campaign to get all universities to provide proper prayer facilities. The campaign will be consolidated at the Federation of Student Islamic Societies (Fosis) conference in Nottingham this weekend following calls from Muslim students at universities and colleges around the country to get proper facilities installed. Muslims are required to pray five times a day. During the winter most would expect to pray twice during a working day and once during the summer. Fosis is calling for universities to provide proper facilities, including washrooms and a room divider to separate the men from the women.
"How'm I supposed to say my prayers with her butt in my face?"
Aisha Janjua, general secretary of Fosis, an umbrella organisation representing around 70,000 Muslim students in Islamic societies at campuses around the country, said: "One of the things that needs to be done is the research on how many universities have prayer rooms and how appropriate they are for people. Once thatâs done we can work with universities and student unions towards at least a small contemplation room. A lot of universities donât see this as a necessity. It is a necessity, praying five times a day is a necessity for Muslim students. Itâs differentiating between the obligation and choice of it. A prayer room on every campus is very essential."
Andrew Nightingale, former head of the Association of University Directors of Estates, said universities are well aware of the issue and had discussed it at a conference on estate management last week. He said there was agreement that providing facilities such as prayer rooms could become an important part of a universityâs remit as students become more vocal about their needs once top-up fees are introduced. "Iâm not aware that there is any legal requirement for universities to provide any social or cultural facilities other than education. But a lot of universities have some facilities. Derby [University] has done a lot of work on this. It is a topic of concern. Itâs something weâre becoming aware of. "A lot of universities are close to mosques anyway," he added.
At todayâs conference many students reported that their universities had facilities, but in many cases these fell short of what was required. Hafida, 20, a Westminster student, said there were no prayer rooms available at her university. "I have to pray in classrooms, sometimes people come in and I have to repeat my prayers. On the other campus there is a small corridor we use." Fatima, a 19-year-old University College London student, said there was a contemplation room, mostly used by Muslim students, but nothing to separate women and men. "Thereâs not much competition because no one else goes. Itâs a place of worship where we put up the curtain, but it is just a tiny hut." Isma, who is doing her A-levels at a sixth-form college in Redditch, said she goes home twice a day to pray. "There arenât a majority of people asking for the facilities so we wonât get them."
Fosis is holding its four-day conference at Nottingham University, exploring areas of student life. Up to 750 students are expected to attend today. Hasan Patel, one of the conference organisers and a former executive officer at the National Union of Students, said Fosis was trying to move towards issues more specific to Muslim students on campuses in Britain - Islamaphobia, education funding and widening participation - and away from international debates.
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Prayer room or weapons depot? You be the judge.
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Bhurkas on drivers' lee-sounces. Then separate prayer rooms. It's a fifth column advance, step by step. "I am entitled to be more equal than others." They are trying it in this country too.
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...calls from Muslim students at universities and colleges around the country to get proper facilities installed. Muslims are required to pray five times a day...Fosis is calling for universities to provide proper facilities, including washrooms and a room divider to separate the men from the women.
SO
How do they reconcile:
Building public facilities that segregate people based on their sex (not washrooms)?
Public facilities that favor one religion over another (i.e., providing religious facilities for one religious group and not another--will they likewise build separate facilities for Jews, Zoroastrans, Christians (multiple sects), Buddhists, Satanists, Deists, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, Copts, Orthodox...?
Separation of church and state in terms of building prayer facilities with public funds?
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Suggestion for a requisite for college entrance/graduation?
Semitephobia classes. All the other phobias could be lumped in there, of course, but since history documents the disproportionate hatred and suffering the Jews have endured, studies of anti-Semitism should make up the bulk of the required study.
Fantasize, for a moment-remember that Rantburgian article about piblic school students being forced to pray to Mecca, say Allahu Akbar, yadda yadda yadda? How fun would it be to force these Muslim students to say a Jewish prayer and wear Jewish religious gear.
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When a schoolteacher in London, no muslim pupils prayed during the schoolday. However, some twat of a white convert (Blonde beard, Salwar Kameez etc.) insisted the school gave him a prayer room, which of course in liberal Britain they obligingly did - he went in their every break time and on free periods. (And never joined the rest of us for coffee). Immediately he started pressuring the muslim students to pray with him. We fired him for intimidating the kids and getting no work done. Plus the regular students 'slaughtered' him - even the muslim kids thought he was a dick. It's often the idiots who spoil the status quo. Usually they're so vociferous in the name of their cause as to draw immediate attention. We should go after them.
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I'm going to insist that work provide me with a pagan teepee. Now, where's that goat?
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06/18/2004 13:48 Comments ||
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Howard - Depends whether you :
1) Pray to the goat.
2) Milk the goat.
3) Slice the goat's throat.
#1 has to be done on your break,
#2 has to be done on your break, and in the parking lot.
#3 has to be done after-hours, and in the parking lot. . . .
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Suggestion: go to the damn mosque to pray. Can't find time? Improvise. Now shut the hell up and go away.
Bingo, Bomb-a-rama.
A lot of universities donât see this as a necessity. It is a necessity, praying five times a day is a necessity for Muslim students. Itâs differentiating between the obligation and choice of it. A prayer room on every campus is very essential."
"Essential?" Horsesh!t! It is most definitely not a necessity. No school is obliged to provide prayer facilities, save for a seminary. Like B-a-r said, go to the properly appointed facility if your need for prayer is so dire. How in hell is any school supposed to accomodate all the possible religions represented among their student body? Preferentialism is simply not allowed, no matter how much the Islamic pupils whine about it.
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This is nothing more than part and parcel of a much more long-term goal, namely: Expanding/Enforcing Islam on the West.
That's all it is.
Using societal rights (which the Islamics don't respect), which the West has developed and adhered to (and which are, essentially, based on a Christian-influenced worldview) the IslamoFascists will continue to demand their way: "Innocent until proven guilty! Freedom for (our) religion! Civil rights at airports--no security checks! Right to privacy (especially for our bombmaking kitchens) ! Kill the Christians! Kill the Jews! Ooops! . . . Uh . . . "
Well, there you have it. This is what they're after. They won't stop until we make them stop.
I see the psychology of it this way: everytime an IslamoFascist "wins" something (like a beheading or a bombing), the rest of them feel a little better about themselves--their "self-esteem" rises as they experience vicarious "success" by identifying with aggressors. This is a BIG personal pay-off in their world of weak-willed men and subjugated women. I don't think they'll quit because things like freedom, democracy, equality are just words--might as well be aliens from a distant planet trying to convince them of the value of those things--or the need to make sacrifices to attain them.
So, I gotta wonder: will the West wake up in time?
I think the conservatives get it, but the liberals are another story. Since they consider themselves elite, advanced, superior to everyone, they cannot imagine that they could ever be vulnerable. (example: I wonder what Michael Moore would do if he found himself in Paul Johnson's situation. Bet he'd whine and fuss for the Marines, President Bush, etc. But then of course, he's spent the past ten years making friends in low places, positioning himself for safety should the ultimate happen, and his low-life Marxist/Islamo friends win the day.) I digress.
Just one more thing--if they're so eager to pray, let them stop in the halls (at whatever time they deem appropirate), stick their butts in the air, and have at it! When Christians or Jews pray at universities, we have to just "make do." Of couse, our God doesn't require us to stick our butts in the air! And BTW--the Islamotwerps want rooms to themselves so they can influence others to gain converts (see above).
LOL and right-on! Bomb-a-rama, jules 187.
Howard UK and BigEd: Someone definitely should start demanding livestock accomodations be provided on every campus! :-)
Zenster: I'm warming up to your Mecca/Medina takeover idea . . .
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Just one more thing--if they're so eager to pray, let them stop in the halls (at whatever time they deem appropirate), stick their butts in the air, and have at it! When Christians or Jews pray at universities, we have to just "make do." Of couse, our God doesn't require us to stick our butts in the air!
Good point, ex-lib. Hmmm...could it be they have an anal fixation? Or maybe they just like it doggie style under those robes, in the quiet of the mosque? :)
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And BTW--the Islamotwerps want rooms to themselves so they can influence others to gain converts (see above).
Great point, ex-lib. Why should they have private recruiting stations set up for them? At best a common chapel where all worship and activity could be monitored by outsiders.
Zenster: I'm warming up to your Mecca/Medina takeover idea . . .
Thank you, pal. I see few other levers we can use to persuade Islam as a whole that their entire structure is threatened from within. There has to be a price for noncompliance and gating the Haj is one of the only universal penalties that applies.
Islam does not blanch at collective punishment (i.e., terrorism) and neither should we. Once they manage to get their juvenile waterfowl aligned, the Haj may resume but not a femtosecond sooner.
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jules 187 ...could it be they have an anal fixation? That too--but pagan dieties, such the moslem "god" of war, always require humiliating things of their followers.
Wishful thinking regarding your radical solution Zenster. But the Islamofreaks are so without rational thought, that the point would be lost on them, and all we'd see would be retalitory strikes against Western targets for "daring" to try and control their "holy" sites--it would the the "grand excuse" for them to do anything and everything. Of course, that doesn't mean it's not fun to think about . . . :-)
Aside: ever see Tim Burton's film "Mars Attacks"? So appropo right now --the martians are a lot like the Islamics . . . gotta see it if you haven't.
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My religion requires me to burn muslim pagans five times a day, in public, during muslim prayer times. I'd like to have a stake erected in front of the University Center and I'll need lots of gasoline and matches.
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Silent - Okay, so far so good, but I wanna know what makes you (faithful adherents of your creed) seethe. I'm pretty big on learning how to seethe properly and I might be interested in signing up if you include seething training.
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Howard - I did say milk the goat. This can lead to other activity - depending on the goat. But if it gets too exciting, then there has to be a prayer room .
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"I have to pray in classrooms, sometimes people come in and I have to repeat my prayers...."
That's because you're not trying hard enough. Boy is Allah gonna be pissed at you!!!
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Wishful thinking regarding your radical solution Zenster. But the Islamofreaks are so without rational thought, that the point would be lost on them, and all we'd see would be retalitory strikes against Western targets for "daring" to try and control their "holy" sites--it would the the "grand excuse" for them to do anything and everything.
Once Medina was demolished because of "retaliatory strikes," the Islamists might calm down a whole bunch when Mecca's number came up next. Plus, it would tend to defocus a lot of Islam's central doctrine if the shrines were simply obliterated because of their continuing atrocities.
It becomes a little more difficult to worship that big black rock when it's all just slag and melted glass with a toasty background count. Such a thing would make it rather hard for Islam to recruit more disciples when their holiest of holies no longer exists as a reminder of their inability to stop committing atrocities.
Let's see, join up and become one of those whose claim to fame is getting the rest of the world so pissed off that they melted down our shines. Thanks, but no thanks, guys.
EFL - NYTimes Requires Reg...
BOGOTÃ, Colombia, June 17 - The government of President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela is poised to pack the Supreme Court with allies who could decide in favor of the president if an August recall referendum on his rule is as close and contested as expected, an American-based human rights group said Thursday. Learning from AlGore and the Donks
A new law signed by Mr. Chávez in May expanded the Supreme Court to 32 from 20 members. It also permits pro-government representatives in the National Assembly to use their slim majority to appoint and remove justices, instead of obtaining a two-thirds majority as was common practice before, according to a Human Rights Watch report released in Caracas on Thursday. The 12 new justices will probably be appointed in July. But the National Assembly applied the law already, on Tuesday, by annulling the tenure of the courtâs vice president, Franklin Arrieche, who had voted to acquit military officers involved in a 2002 coup against Mr. Chávez. The government and its allies, including three members of the five-member National Electoral Council, have also called for restricting or even barring the Organization of American States and the Atlanta-based Carter Center from monitoring the vote, set to take place Aug. 15.
The developments come as the government, fending off the latest challenge from a determined opposition, embarks on a campaign of intense social spending fueled by rising oil revenues. But political analysts say that if Mr. Chávez cannot win the recall outright, his government could count on the Supreme Court to ensure victory if the referendum results are close or disputed. Officials in the attorney generalâs office said they could not comment on the new law, called the Organic Law of the Supreme Court, until they read Human Right Watchâs 24-page report. Representatives at Miraflores, the presidential palace, did not return calls seeking comment. But a supporter of the law in the National Assembly, Eustoquio Contreras, and the Venezuelan ambassador in Washington, Bernardo Ãlvarez, said the new law was part of the governmentâs efforts to make a system once riddled with corruption more efficient. The new measure allowing the National Assembly to make appointments by a simple majority, they said, is aimed at easing the logjam that has made appointing judges difficult. "The problem weâve had in Congress is there has been a process of jamming the game," Mr. Ãlvarez said of the countryâs tangled and politically polarized legislative process. "That is why we had to change the process in the Congress."
Hopefully, Hugo will join them someday. But I suspect it won't be anytime too soon...
"If nobody reacts now, tomorrow will be too late," Mr. Vivanco said in an interview earlier this week. "The 32 justices of the Supreme Court will start ruling, and it will be impossible to question those rulings." In Venezuela, judicial autonomy has already been severely limited by the firing of judges who have ruled against the government by the six-member judicial commission of the Supreme Court, said Mr. Vivanco. Human Rights Watch also says that the vast majority of judges in Venezuela are not allowed to obtain tenure, thereby intimidating them from making difficult decisions. "The executive has penetrated the judicial system," Miguel Luna, a judge recently fired after issuing a decision the government did not like, said in a phone interview. "Autonomy has been lost in our justice system."
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If he does get removed, his last couple of weeks will be busier than Bill Clinton's. His administration will become an Executive Ordering, Judge Appointmenting, Clemancy Granting, Constitution changing factory.
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Chavez has been wiping and will continue wiping his a*** with any international resolution. Actually, Human Rights Watch and all the others "International Commissions" are playing right into his hands. He wants a confrontation with the US (which is doing great by keeping his mouth shut) or any other International Organ to have an excuse to call an State of Emergency or at the very list, to rally the citizens around a foreing threat.
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To satisfy some here who have an itch for China, here ya go... While the war on terror rages, a new report reminds us that Chinaâs ascent to great power status continues apace.
by Christian Lowe
06/17/2004 12:00:00 AM
While all eyes are focused on enemies who present clear and present dangers, such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan, and North Korea, another country whose military was a chief concern during the â90s has faded to the background.
A recently released Pentagon report provides a stark reminder that America needs to keep an eye on developments in the far east. Though few in the news media paid heed to the 2004 report on Chinese military power, it offers an enlightening glimpse into Asiaâs fast growing economic and military powerhouse and a vivid, although highly interpretive, look into how China sees the conduct of Americaâs wars.
The first report on China, which was reluctantly released in June of 2000, stressed Chinaâs overwhelming focus on a potential conflict erupting across the Taiwan Strait. China reacted to the victory over Iraqi forces in the 1991 Persian Gulf War by stressing the modernization of its forces and the development--or purchase--of precision-guided munitions, including cruise missiles, laser-guided bombs, and short-range ballistic missiles. The Chinese also learned from Operation Allied Force in 1999, which stressed the need for a capability to strike targets at long range using air power and to leverage space for greater battlefield information and intelligence.
Allied Force also offered lessons to the Chinese in the need to counter U.S. space systems, prompting increased development of anti-satellite weaponry and computer hacking attacks, previous reports state. And China recognized the importance of denial and deception, placing a greater emphasis on the ability to camouflage equipment, mask transmissions, and fortify complexes below ground.
This yearâs report, which was released May 28, builds on previous ones, emphasizing the Chinese militaryâs interpretation of the global war on terrorism and the lessons drawn from Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom. According to the report, the Chinese military high command recognized the speed and shock of the American assault on Saddamâs forces and its ability to maintain lines of supply and logistics within a non-linear battlefield. Gone was the idea that one nation need only long-range precision airpower to dominate another.
The Chinese military also sees the global war on terrorism in a larger context, with some reading American victories in the Middle East and Central Asia not as steps toward a lasting security, but rather as further solidifying a U.S. global hegemony. ...more...
While itâs easy to see China as either a second-world nation with Soviet-style aspirations and prospects or as a behemoth awakening and soon to be able to leap tall bldgs in a single bound, the truth is, well, itâs a hash with a measure of both. Add massive doses of paranoia, ego, fear, arrogance, and everything-envy and you come pretty close. They are definitely on the schedule... Old Alma Mater More Science High is currently early in the 2nd Qtr with Islamic Jihad HS -- the Winner takes on Golden Dragon HS next.
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Golden Dragon HS still gotta get by Nippon New Tech in the quarters finals tho and they historically have had problems dealing with them and have never won an away match.
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...But you can't ignore old favorite Communist Martyrs HS either. Good solid record, just a few off seasons, that's all.
Mike
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Listen to Principal Poop. He has the answers.
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I'll repeat: China is the real terrorist.
Islam is merely a rather conspicuous religous convulsion. China's continual undermining of other world economies through intentional trade deficits, government sanctioned intellectual property theft and product counterfeiting pose a more significant long term threat to global prosperity.
If China does not install government by elected representation, they must be sanctioned. World health organizations must not divert a single penny's worth of medical aid for China to help them with the world's largest medically caused AIDS crisis.
As with North Korea, any money we spend on China is merely that much more capital freed up for them to spend on weapons. The west must demand trade equity with China or have the courage to shut off all trade with them. Sadly, too many American politicians are bought and paid for by China to ever permit the United States to take such an intelligent measure.
China's overheated economy is headed for a gigantic crash. Some US$200,000,000,000 in bad bank debt is just now coming home to roost. As government run hyper-inefficient and incompetently managed industries are shutting down, millions of Chinese workers will be displaced. These citizens have just recently gotten a taste of western style properity. Do not think that they will give up any hope of it willingly just because their corrupt leadership refuses to fart through anything less than silk.
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Zen - I believe your closing thoughts suggest that the bastard commie-capitalist monstrosity currently in power is not long for this world.
IMHO, that is the real answer to the bulk of your (and my) objections: removal of the "communist" regime. Nor I would shed tears if there was sufficient regional unrest to arise resulting in the breakup of this far-from-homogenous behemoth - which might not be a far-fetched idea.
Chiner? Are you out there? If so, can you address this thread with your first-hand experiences?
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IMHO, that is the real answer to the bulk of your (and my) objections: removal of the "communist" regime. Nor I would shed tears if there was sufficient regional unrest to arise resulting in the breakup of this far-from-homogenous behemoth - which might not be a far-fetched idea.
.com, I certainly hope so, but America should have the intestinal fortitude to pull the plug on trade with China. There is no way in H-E-Double Toothpicks that any other country or group of countries could absorb that much idled Chinese manufacturing capacity. Their economy would implode in less than a month year and we could bend them over a bushel of bok choy to show them how it's done in the West.
We need to midwife their downfall before those morons in Europe begin selling them the advanced weapon systems they're drooling over in their sleep. It was a deep personal pleasure to finally see China's military get a good pucker factor going when they realized that their precious Three Gorges Project is also a huge strategic target.
We need to covertly arm Taiwan with whatever conventional weapons it takes to ensure their ability to break that dam wide open. China's constant belligerence is not just tiresome, it is something that needs to be openly thwarted. If they breath their own exhaust long enough, they'll begin to believe it themselves, just like Iran.
These b@stards need to be stopped in a hurry. As if North Korea wasn't a picture perfect bellwether of what's to come from their meddling, we now have the exact same ploy happening in Iran. All courtesy of China. They need to be slapped down hard and fast.
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yes china is a def threat - and we as a nation are helping her along by buying all those very cheap and cheaply made products from our wallmarts and 99 cent stores...sooner or later we will wake..i hope..
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and we as a nation are helping her along by buying all those very cheap and cheaply made products from our wallmarts and 99 cent stores...sooner or later we will wake..i hope..
Just one more reason to not shop at Wal-Mart. As a capitalist, I usually promote whatever gives business or consumers the best functional model. I am not fond of how Wal-Marts tend to hollow out small business communities, but I also dislike restraint of trade.
Where I draw the line is that Wal-Mart alone represents 10% of our trade deficit with China. That's right, US$12,000,000,000 out of the 127 billion deficit. Wal-Mart needs to be boycotted so long as they help China gain economic ascendancy.
I wonder how many Americans realize that by shopping at Wal-Mart, they assist in eliminating economic opportunity here in the United States. This is something that needs a lot more publicity than it is getting.
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I still don't understand how our military leaders are projecting that the Chinese will execute an opposed amphibious landing on Taiwan. While the PRC could certainly nuke Taiwan into oblivion, I'm not sure how that would do anything but ruin China itself.
After the WOT is completed we could crumple China the same way that Ronnie broke the Soviet Union.
As for the trade deficit, there are plenty of easier ways to stoke our economic engines without worrying about where the laundry hampers in Walmart are manufactured. Most of items that are manufactured on China are commodity-type junk. What little margin there is comes from underpaying labor - not a recipe for a popular government. Here is a link to one simple plan to changes the mathematics of economics. A flat tax will work. Privatizing 10% of incoming social security payments as a 401K is another way to stoke the economy (a requirement that a percentage of that investment be in municipal bonds might also prevent all our bridges from collapsing as well.)
Flat Tax, Vat Tax or eliminate the Death Tax would also be helpful. We can do any of these just as soon as Americans decide to turn a deaf ear to class-warfare arguments and take a risk.
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SH - a successful amphib landing would only occur with a capitulating Taiwan - ergo the PRC efforts to bully, scare, infiltrate, and isolate
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Most Chinese Empires either imploded or were pushed into history after decades of internal corruption. While everyone is projecting the potential Chinese threat to others, like the former Soviet Union, they ignor the internal dynamics which also threaten the existing state as well. Like the former USSR, too many assume that it is a well oil and focused technical government machine. It ain't.
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From Compass Direct
Zoning status recognizing the newly built Diyarbakir Evangelical Church as an official place of worship has been rejected by a local committee of the Turkish Ministry of Culture. Pastor Ahmet Guvener was informed verbally by a Diyarbakir official in southeast Turkey last month that although the committee wanted to resolve the controversy surrounding his new Protestant church, they were âbound to uphold the lawâ regulating all places of worship. ...
According to the Committee for the Preservation of Culture and Historical Sites in Diyarbakir, Turkish law requires that every place of worship be situated on at least 2,500 square meters of property. Since the debated Protestant church property is only 116 square meters, the committee denied the churchâs request filed last December to re-zone the building as a legal place of worship. With 175 mosques open for worship within the Diyarbakir city limits, only the Ulu Camii (Grand Mosque) meets this 2,500 square-meters requirement. ....
âI have looked through all the laws, and I can find no record of any statute requiring 2,500 square meters of property,â Guvenerâs lawyer Kadir Pekdemir told Compass today. ...
A large percentage of Turkeyâs mosques have been constructed without obtaining building or zoning permits, both technically required by law. But some 45 small Protestant congregations who have rented or purchased places of worship over the past decade have struggled for years against authoritative attempts to shut them down on legal grounds. ....
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Quelle surprise.
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[...]EFL, read it all
Vocal supporters of the old Atlantic-American alliance are only half right in their bromides for putting Humpty Dumpty back together again. Yes, they are correct that we should speak more softly and listen more. But if America had once done to NATO what the French or Germans did to us last year, the pretense of an alliance would now be long over. Imagine what would have happened if Paris or Berlin had mobilized to preempt Milosevic while the United States refused â claiming with Russia in the Security Council that such unilateral, non-U.N. approved action was brinksmanship of the worst sort â and then strong-armed other NATO countries to oppose European efforts.
Let us publicly hope for the miraculous reconstitution of NATOâs shattered fragments into a real alliance; and then accept its quiet and permanent dismemberment on the pavement after a job well done. Meanwhile, seek bilateral partnerships with willing European countries, continue to unilaterally withdraw troops from Germany, and then start reducing elsewhere our unnecessary military presence â perhaps first in Spain. Of course, there will be difficulties â initial higher costs in redeployment, hurt Euro feelings, and hysteria from trans-Atlantic pundits â but scaling back from Europe is long overdue.
We seek not to punish Europe by our departure, but to save it from itself. The problem is not just that our troops are doing nothing in places like Germany, or merely that they are more needed elsewhere â they do real damage by their presence in enabling an increasingly strident and opportunistic pacifism and an anti-Americanism fueled by dependency and ignited by resentment.
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But isnât the Atlantic Alliance critical to American security? Sadly, no. Right now it de facto does not exist and we are in no greater danger due to its absence. Instead, the key is not to force Europe to be an ally, but to ensure by our absence that it is a friend â or at least a Swiss-like neutral â in the present fight against terrorists and their sponsors. Shared intelligence and mutual encouragement against terrorists do not require NATO. Perhaps Mr. Powell needs to give up on expecting Europeans to do anything real in the present war, and Mr. Rumsfeld needs to praise them far more for doing nothing.
[...]Not to be indiscreet, but Iâd like TGAâs take on this
From Professor Bainbridgeâs site (couldnât find a free link to the WSJ article). Hat tip: Pejman Yousefzadeh.
The WSJ reports on a Swedish study that calls into serious question the quality of life consequences of social democracy:
It found that if Europe were part of the U.S., only tiny Luxembourg could rival the richest of the 50 American states in gross domestic product per capita. Most European countries would rank below the U.S. average....
Higher GDP per capita allows the average American to spend about $9,700 more on consumption every year than the average European. So Yanks have by far more cars, TVs, computers and other modern goods. "Most Americans have a standard of living which the majority of Europeans will never come anywhere near," the Swedish study says.
But what about equality? Well, the percentage of Americans living below the poverty line has dropped to 12% from 22% since 1959. In 1999, 25% of American households were considered "low income," meaning they had an annual income of less than $25,000. If Sweden -- the very model of a modern welfare state -- were judged by the same standard, about 40% of its households would be considered low income.
In other words poverty is relative, and in the U.S. a large 45.9% of the "poor" own their homes, 72.8% have a car and almost 77% have air conditioning, which remains a luxury in most of Western Europe. The average living space for poor American households is 1,200 square feet. In Europe, the average space for all households, not just the poor, is 1,000 square feet.
I used to live in Germany, 35 years ago; this pretty much describes it back then, too. Look how far even our "poor" have come in that time, while the Euros stagnate, grateful for their social benefits.
Down with socialism! Throw off your yokes, Europe! Oh, wait.... You like your yokes. Never mind.
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At least things suck for your neighbors as well so their is no worry about envy.
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By Joe Murphy, Evening Standard EFL. Hat tip to the Brothers Judd.
Another reason to love Tony Blair . . . .
Tony Blair fired a blistering attack at chief weasel Jacques Chirac today, accusing the French president of trying to dictate to the rest of Europe. In unusually brutal language, he charged President Chirac with treating countries including Britain as "second-class" states and acting as though only France and Germany mattered. Mr Blair was almost equally tough with junior assistant weasel German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, named and shamed for using "unfortunate" tactics at the Brussels summit.
It's not good to speak ill of the politically dead...
His official spokesman - referring to French and German efforts to impose their choice as the new president of the European Commission - said no country should order the others around. No one at todayâs summit was left in any doubt about the target of Mr Blairâs assault, scripted after a night pondering a tirade by President Chirac at a dinner for the 25 leaders last night. The pair later squared up in a "heated" confrontation, diplomatic sources revealed. Mr Chirac was accused of bullying and insulting leaders of small countries who refused to support him against Mr Blair. Blair was heard to recite part of Shakespeareâs Henry IV, Part 1: "Base muleteers of France! Like peasant foot-boys do they keep the walls, And dare not take up arms like gentlemen." Then it got ugly . . .
Mr Blairâs counter-attack today appeared to be an open challenge to Franco-German dominance of the EU, and a bid to rally the newly joined former eastern bloc states. . . . The row escalated after Mr Chirac accused Mr Blair of provoking crises on two fronts, by torpedoing Belgian premier Guy Verhofstadt - the French and German favourite for head of the commission - and by refusing to give ground on the planned constitution. He marched into dinner determined to see Mr Verhofstadt, who favours tax harmonisation and led opposition to the Iraq war, crowned president. Mr Blair - backed by Italy, Portugal and a range of newly-joined states - rejected the arch-federalist poodle Belgian.
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Goes to show you. Domestic politics has little to do with the big picture.
Tony Blair gets it.
We can disagree on many things, but the true measure is the understanding of the big picture.
That is why the Dems here showed their true colors, and ignored Joe Lieberman.
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I'm getting so sick about that "entente infernale" between Chirac and Schroeder.
At least Schroeder won't survive this year as chancellor. The knifes get sharpened already after his dismal performance at the EU elections.
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TGA - I truly look forward to a Germany Under New Management, too. That will be the end of Chirac's ability to offer the pretense that he doesn't speak only for himself.
Can you say who you think will be the next Chancellor? Maybe Edmund Stoiber? Pravda seem to like him, lol!
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Domestic politics has little to do with the big picture. Tony Blair gets it
I'm not so sure domestic politics didn't influence Blair's actions, BigEd. The repudiation of pro-EU integration candidates this past week seems to be to be a wakeup call to him, saying UK voters are not happy at the thought of the UK being subordinated to a strong federal EU.
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.com, the next chancellor will probably be SPD... (until elections of course). I see a party putsch coming up there. The SPD has reached a dangerous point... the Greens doubled their votes in the EU elections and might very well become real rivals, not only junior partners. Parts of the Greens have actually more sanity than the Social Democrats.
The well informesd sources say that Henning Scherf, a well liked popular SPD guy and mayor of Bremen (in a "big coalition" with the CDU) is courted as Schroeder's successor (no minister in the Schroeder cabinet has any popularity to succeed Schroeder).
As for the CDU/CSU opposition, it's still too early to tell who will win the power struggle. Angela Merkel wants more radical market reforms, Stoiber will probably try to coat them in candy.
Chances that Schroeder will lose his job this year are at 80% (my estimate). He's a complete failure and history won't treat him very kindly.
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I am not surprised she is wearing something on her head. (Doesn't look like a typical kaffiyeh, but certainly reeks of typical lefty terrorist "solidarity with our Muslim brethren" nonsense...)
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She told reporters she wanted four of her colleagues to be set free as well
STFU or back in the graybar hotel, bitch
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Frank, I think the French should agree to release them .. just as soon as they are diagnosed with something inoperative, virulent and terminal.
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That should have been inoperable.
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My Dad died of a brain tumor - I hope this bitch suffers as much as he did
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Brain, what brain
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hattip to Drudge - Ingenious or Insideous? You decide.
Thatâs the plan at todayâs East End Festival. Monroe County Democrats have teamed up with High Falls Brewery to offer two free 2-ounce beers to those who register to vote at the festival.
A two-ounce beer? Two entire ounces? Wowzers.
Then the new voter can go into a real voting booth and pick the brew they liked the most. The promotion is called âRegister Your Taste.â The goal is to encourage people older than 21 to register to vote and to simulate the experience of voting. But alcohol treatment counselors fizzled on the idea, saying organizers shouldnât link drinking with the civic duty of voting.
Frank: Hey, Mel. Youâre kind of staggering. Did you register to vote? Mel: Sure did, Frank. [Hick!] 88 times. [Belch.] Frank: I can tell, Mel. Youâre looking kind of green arouind the gills. What do you say I help you stagger on over to the Port-O-Let and let you register a vote for Ralph Nader? Mel: Zzzz Okeee. [fart]
âI think there are other ways to motivate people to vote other than give them alcohol,â said Elaine Milton, director of the chemical dependency clinic at the Family Service of Rochester Inc.
If you're gonna give 'em "alcohol" make it a little more healthy dose that two entire ounces of beer...
Molly Clifford, head of the Monroe County Democrats, stressed that the event is not aimed at encouraging alcohol consumption and that the samples are small. The initiative, backed by High Falls CEO Tom Hubbard and Moe Alaimo, president of the East End Business District, will also take place at two other East End festivals later this summer and at two Red Wings games. The booth will be open from 6 to 8 tonight at Alaimoâs store, Havana Moeâs, 200 East Ave. âItâs just a fun way to get young people interested in voting,â Clifford said... Participants will vote between High Fallsâ two new beers, Dundeeâs Amber Lager and Pale Ale, both to be introduced this fall. Hubbard said the event is a good marketing opportunity for the local company and a way to help a good cause. About 20,000 people, largely those in their 20s, attend each East End festival.
Clifford said she and Hubbard developed the idea, a nonpartisan affair, because locally and nationally itâs difficult to get young people to vote. Statistics show that the 18-to-24 age group has the lowest percentage of registered voters and number of people who come to the polls. Since 1972, the young voter participation rate has declined by about 13 percent overall â the largest drop of any age group, according to the National Association of Secretaries of State. In Monroe County, less than 8 percent of registered voters are ages 18 to 24, also the lowest of any age group.
Jennifer Kunselman, 27, of Rochester said festival attendees could benefit from being able to register to vote there. Yet she said having the option at a Red Wings game would be even better. âI think itâs important to target a younger audience,â Kunselman said. âBut there is a whole other population that wonât be frequenting the festival.â David Mammano, president of the local chapter of the Young Entrepreneurs Organization, said the idea is good because it promotes voting, but he doubts it will help. He said people will vote if they want to, not because of free beers. âMaybe they will have better luck if they have beer on Election Day.â
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Nothing new:
Campaign volunteers for the Democratic Presidential campaign were discovered distributing cigarettes to homeless voters after the volunteers had recruited the homeless specifically for their vote Saturday.
http://html.themilwaukeechannel.com/sh/election2000/stories/election2000-20001105-143203.html
Election: 2000.
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My lucky Eight Ball tells me that we will soon see a needle exchange be designated as a polling place in San Fransisco.
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I'm a big beer fan but I wouldn't cross the street for 2 2-ounce beers. That's just a tease and barely enough to determine if the beers any good. Come on, give me a pint for gods sake.
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Having read the baseball article I would like to say that I cried with laughter. Naked people at sport rock.
I support Derby County who used to play at 'The Baseball Ground' - home to some of the most spectacular riots I have had the pleasure to be involved in - I quote:
1976: Derby County and Manchester United managers Tommy Docherty and Dave Mackay have contrasting views on what can be done to prevent hooliganism at football matches. This follows yesterday's riot following the clubs' goalless draw at the Baseball Ground which left 35 fans and three police in hospital. The Doc says: "If that is what happens when we draw 0-0 what will those idiots do when we lose? Mackay says: "No matter how tough you are there's no way a few men can stop a mob on the rampage". Other suggested measures include tough prison sentences, fans being fenced in and grounds being closed.
(football refugees)
Prophetic.
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Lets face it you have to be either drunk or stupid to vote for a democrat, this should not suprise anyone, thats how they drafted Teddy kennedy.
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Howard, back in those days there was another common promotion called, "bat night." Each fan received their very own wooden regulation Louisville slugger. I don't think that the two promotions - bat night and low cost beer night were ever conducted simultaneously but theresults might have spread all the way out to the suburbs.
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Nothing new here. The Cincinnati History Museum has a small bottle which was used to distribute hard cider for, I believe, Tyler's presidential campaign.
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Bat night!? They hand out weapons? LOL.
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Upon college graduation, Donohue said, Vanderslice spoke at rallies organized by ACT-UP, an anti-Catholic group that disrupted Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral in 1989 and spit the Eucharist on the floor.
How touching. He wants my vote.
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STRIKE ONE
she attended Earlham College, a Quaker school known for its adherence to pacifism
STRIKE TWO
she was active in the Earlham Socialist Alliance, a group that supports convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal
STRIKE THREE
she was active in the Earlham Socialist Alliance, a group that . . .also openly embraces Marxism-Leninism
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"Given all this, his choice of Mara Vanderslice as his religious point woman is confounding. Her resume is that of a person looking for a job working for Fidel Castro, not John Kerry."
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She is neither "evangelical" nor "Christian". However, given the generally postmodern temper of most labels (and thus the meaninglessness of most words), she might be an "evangelical". By the same reasoning, she also might be a "caged hamster" -- oops, that was Kerry.
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I find it fascinating the way Democrats, when confronted with the behavior of their loons, remark that those people are merely the fringe of the party, and aren't really what the party represents.
And yet those loons, those "fringes", seem to have an incredible amount of pull within the party, and seem to always be the first in line for posts and honors within the party.
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Just saw on local news Senator John McCain has just thrown his support to Bush.Didnât catch the details,but it appeared to be while introducing Pries Bush at military base.
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Yep...Bush and McCain campaigning together. We live in interesting times, my friends.
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"Thrown" makes it sound like this is something new. McCain has been on record as favoring the president's re-election for quite some time, though this fact has been overlooked by those poor unfortunates overcome by Kerry-McCain fever dreams.
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Say what you will about McCain, but he's a true American and it was always inconceivable that that POW would have EVER supported a Fonda loving weasle like Kerry. I'm sure he hates him with a vigor that the rest of us can't comprehend. Probably has to wash his hands endlessly to get the Kerry germ residue off that he bravely risked by shaking hands hands with him in his noble effort to do what he feels is best for America.
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Here's The Story!
First paragraph says it all. . .
FORT LEWIS, Wash. - Surrounding himself with soldiers fresh from the battlefield, President Bush on Friday used a western campaign swing to compliment America's military for the fight against terrorism and pick up praise from Sen. John McCain, who has rebuffed overtures from Democrat John Kerry to be his running mate.
FORT LEWIS, Wash. - Surrounding himself with soldiers fresh from the battlefield, President Bush on Friday used a western campaign swing to compliment America's military for the fight against terrorism and pick up praise from Sen. John McCain, who has rebuffed overtures from Democrat John Kerry to be his running mate.
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McCain has been the chair of Bush-Cheney 2004's campaign in Arizona for months and months. All of the Kerry-McCain speculation was media fantasy and McCain's lust for attention.
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And, possibly, some pressure on Bush to be accountable for military impact of current decisions ....
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McCain has earned the reputation of a maverick. I wouldn't trust him for a moment. He has a hard-on for becoming secretary of defense, bashes Rumsfeld at every opportunity.
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I do not trust John McCain. He should leave my damn party and become a donkey.
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I agree he's a maverick and for that reason I am glad he's not running for president. But the Senate can use someone a maverick to shake things up. McCain understands how to push the limits of his fight without committing suicide in the process.
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should've posted at least the first two paragraphs just for schadefreude:
The opening night of next month's Democratic convention in Boston is set to feature an emotional party tribute to hometown hero Ted Kennedy, who has served in office longer than every other senator but one.
Guess no one at the Democratic National Committee took a close look at the calendar: That July 26 salute to Teddy just happens to coincide with . . . the 35th anniversary of Chappaquiddick.
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It depends on what your definition of "murder" is.
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snicker!
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Does that mean the hopes of the Democrats for the convention to go "swimmingly" are up the creek?
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06/18/2004 16:07 Comments ||
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Was Mary Jo pregnant at the time of her death?
No one will ever know, the autopsy records got "lost" somehow. Why do you think the Kennedys always hand pick the District Attorney for their little island paradises?
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IIRC, didn't everybody (or at least somebody) prevent the DA from doing an autopsy? I distinctly remember how many people all over the country were outraged by the manoeuverings to prevent the autopsy. Teddy said that he "dove and dove" to attempt to save Mary Jo. We all knew in our heart of hearts that he was full of it.
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Teddy Kennedy...More confirmed kills than the majority of US SF operators.
Support for President George W. Bushâs Iraq policy spiked over the last month as the United States prepared to hand power over to Iraqis, according to a new poll. Bush also got a boost from the publicâs recent focus on the funeral of Ronald Reagan, according to the poll by the Pew Research Center released on Thursday. What is not clear, however, is the potential effect on the polls of the Sept. 11 commissionâs Wednesday statement that it has found no credible evidence Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda had a collaborative relationship. The commissionâs findings raised fresh questions about the Bush administrationâs decision to invade Iraq.
Bush had a slight lead over Democratic presidential contender John Kerry in a three-way matchup, with the president at 46 percent, Kerry at 42 percent and independent Ralph Nader at 6 percent. Bush and Kerry were tied in a two-way race as the November election approaches. Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center, said the poll found evidence that Bush got a benefit from the attention paid to the Reagan funeral last week and the moves toward a handover of power in Iraq. Interviews for the poll started before Reaganâs death on June 5 and continued during the coverage of the extended period of memorials and funerals. âBush got a little lift last week from the Reagan commemoration,â Kohut said. âHis (approval) ratings were 44 percent in interviewing done before ... and went up to 50 percent after Reaganâs death.â
Bushâs job approval rating in the poll was 48 percent, up slightly from 44 percent in May, according to the poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. The poll of 1,806 adults was taken from June 3-13 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, slightly higher for the sample of registered voters. Almost six in 10, 57 percent, said the situation in Iraq is going well, up from 46 percent a month earlier. Almost that many, 55 percent, said military action in Iraq was the right decision, up slightly from 51 percent a month earlier. Optimism that US troops will come home in the next two years was up, with 50 percent now saying that compared to 35 percent in April. While the violence in Iraq has continued, much of the recent news coverage in the United States has focused on the gradual handover of power to Iraqis.
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Interesting; it seems that things are turning in favor of Bush lately . . .
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Wow...only four more beheadings to go and "W" will be swept back into 'four more years'!
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man, you're fast PD! I was on that like a eagle fly on shit (appropos, now that I think of it as amended - lol)
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Frank, Lol - I was clued in on another thread that this might be another of those "new" trolls - but gave it wiggle room to see what it would do. Then this post confirmed the suspicion, heh.
via The Boston Herald - EFL
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Wow! This gets the Non-Idiotarian Award for the day!
By Boston Herald editorial staff
Friday, June 18, 2004
The 9/11 Commission is once again engaged in partisan word games that have little to do with their supposed mission and everything to do with bringing down the Bush administration. Itâs a tried and true technique: Set up the proverbial straw man, then knock him down. So when the commission finds, "We have no credible evidence that Iraq and al-Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States," it is logical to ask, who said it did?
Never, in all the months leading up to the war in Iraq, did President Bush or Secretary of State Colin Powell or anyone in the administration make that allegation. In fact, last September Bush said quite explicitly, "No, weâve had no evidence Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." On the other hand, Bush has also been clear before the war and now that as he said on Feb. 8, 2003, "Saddam Hussein has long-standing and continuing ties to terrorist networks." And from this John Kerry concludes Bush "misled" the American people? Its straw-man technique aside, the commission report at times appears hopelessly naive in its attempt to exonerate Saddam and find him innocent of further links to Osama bin Laden or his al-Qaeda network. ...more...
I love it when they do the truth thing...
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So when the commission finds, "We have no credible evidence that Iraq and al-Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States,"..
Wasn't this "commission" formed with the intent to investigate the local and national governmental crisis response to the 2001 attacks, identify shortcomings, and evaluate preparedness for possible future events? If so, why should they even give a rat's ass about whether there was Iraq/Al-Qaida cooperation? Would the outcome of the attacks really have been any different otherwise?
If there ever was any evidence that this commission is a colossal waste of time, this irrelevant "finding" of non-cooperation between Hussein and Al-Qaida has to be it.
via Houston Chron - EFL
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June 17, 2004, 10:54PM
By JACOB HEILBRUNN
Neoconservatism is finished. According to the conventional wisdom, the Pentagonâs top neocons, like Paul D. Wolfowitz, Douglas J. Feith and William J. Luti, have been discredited by the insurgency in Iraq, by Abu Ghraib and by growing public discontent with the war. The United Nations has been invited back â begged, really â while the organizationâs chief opponent, Richard Perle, has been marginalized. The exposure of Iraqi exile leader Ahmad Chalabi as a charlatan, and possibly as an Iranian spy, has delivered the knockout punch. The neocons have lost President Bushâs confidence, it seems, and will be abandoned if he wins a second term. Thatâs the way the story goes, anyway. In Washington, it is widely believed, easy to understand and fun to pass along. But it is also wrong. ...more...
Wishful thinking, willful ignorance, criticism from voyeurs - will the obscenities never cease? Lol!
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Four more neocon years....four more neocon years....and on to Iran
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The American Civil Liberties Union sued Florida three years ago, charging it was violating its own law that requires prison officials to inform convicts about the process required to get their rights restored.
We certainly can't inhibit law breakers from their right to elect lawmakers.
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Fact is according to the Civil Rights commission report the big Democratic Counties ignored the felons list anyway so any felon that wanted to vote was able to.
Now they have a push to promote all felons to register ahead of time so more will sneak through the cracks in areas that don't follow the rules.
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I think this will hurt them more than it will help them...but then, I don't live in FL and I would have voted for GW anyway.
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Wrong, B ...
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It may hurt them more than it helps, but it will at least legalize what happened last time and would certainly happen again. It also means that this go around Republicans can't be unfairly bashed for a list Democrats ignored anyway.
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"The mood now is to shut up about it," said Father Drinan, who teaches at Georgetown University Law Center. He said the Communion debate "is a nonissue" in the Kerry campaign and simply a tool of the Republican Party.
Mr. Kerry's detractors "are dying for him to say something. But he won't take them on," the priest said, adding that he was part of a "kitchen Cabinet" to advise the Kerry campaign on religious matters.
Wouldn't you expect a priest who is a kitchen cabinet member to take a pro-life stance or resign?
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Sorry, but the proverbial bishop is out of the bag. Well, as least he has a sexy wife (barf)
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Fr. Drinan's been every Planned Parenthood local affiliate's favorite priest ("I'm personally opposed, but go ahead and hack away, don't mind me.") for decades.
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"We're concerned about the constitutionality of certain actions, but we're still researching, and we'll see," Munoz said. "Whether you have your documents or not, the Constitution protects everyone."
Ah, yes, the Constitution protects EVERYONE...WTF? Especially those illegals that BREAK THE LAW and want an attorney present? When will we say FU to these groups?
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stop the Border Patrol from doing their jobs? Sure, let's get all the legislators on the record whether they support the border security or not... remember, this is an election year. Arrest and deport every illegal alien they find, dammit!
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MALDEF has three attorneys, two paralegals and several interns researching the constitutionality of the Border Patrol arrests, said Martin Munoz, vice president of public policy.
Uhhh, I don't see where it says in the Constitution that illegal aliens can't be arrested and deported.
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The Constitution protects CITIZENS of the United States, you ACLU dumbasses.
Do you need to go back to third grade in order to understand the concept of nations and governments? Incredible.
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(U of Wisconsin)
Members of the ACLU examine evidence they think will free an illegal immigrant. Ramona Ripston, left, said, "I have to do some pillow talk to check my procedure."
Ms. Ripston's pillow talk refers to her husband, Stephen Reinhardt, judge on the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
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There actually may be a little sanity, here.
Some years ago, the INS and local police decided to do a "crackdown" on illegal aliens in Chandler, AZ. What resulted was an amazing and offensive cluster f***. It was like the police and INS had *no* training!
INS agents were stopping people on the street demanding IDs (often three or four times from the same person in an hour), chasing suspects *through* other people's houses--guns drawn, entering small businesses with some Hispanic employees (like fast food restaurants), and putting workers and patrons on the floor, again at gunpoint, until they could check IDs.
Stopping cars on the streets in residential neighborhoods, and profiling "suspects" based on making them talk to hear an accent and their "smell" and clothes.
In other words, the city was reduced to a martial law-type chaos led by uniformed nuts with guns. Everybody felt menaced and a $25M dollar lawsuit was filed.
There are some right ways and some wrong ways to do these things, but I tell you, this sort of made G. Gordon Liddy sound real good.
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BigEd: Is the "U of Wisconsin" to acknowledge the picture's source, or is it the caption? The background isn't much like the Library Mall, and I don't see any of the usual pamphleteers.
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UNITED NATIONS, June 17 -- U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan on Thursday urged the Security Council to oppose renewal of a resolution that would shield U.S. troops serving in U.N.-approved peacekeeping missions from prosecution before the International Criminal Court, saying the "exemption is wrong."
Annan noted that the United States is facing international criticism for abuses of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan. He told reporters: "It would be unwise to press for an exemption, and it would be even more unwise on the part of the Security Council to grant it. It would discredit the council and the United Nations that stands for the rule of law."
I don't think the UN can discredit itself much further, but then I thought that before the Oil-for-Palaces scandel broke.
The U.N. chief's remarks added momentum to a campaign by supporters of the war crimes court to defeat the U.S.-sponsored initiative. Senior U.N. diplomats said Annan would press his case in a closed-door luncheon Friday with the 15 Security Council members. "Blanket exemption is wrong unless the UN is being investigated," Annan said. "It is of dubious judicial value, and I don't think it should be encouraged by the council."
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the United States is well aware of Annan's position but will press the council for renewal. The resolution, first adopted two years ago, applies to "current or former officials" from countries that have not ratified the treaty establishing the court -- which includes the United States -- and exempts them from prosecution before the court for crimes committed in U.N.-authorized operations. The council expressed an "intention" to renew the resolution each year "for as long as may be necessary."
"It should be renewed the way the council said it would," Boucher said. "And so we're still talking to other governments in New York and discussing this with them."
The United States faces fierce resistance within the council as the July 1 deadline for renewal approaches. China has threatened to veto the resolution, citing concern that it could be use to provide political cover for abuses. U.S. and other Security Council officials say that China -- which also has not ratified the court treaty -- is confronting the United States because it recently supported Taiwan's bid for observer status in the World Health Assembly. "This could have an impact," said one council ambassador, who spoke anonymously because of the sensitivity of the issue. China is sending a "signal" to Washington that this "will threaten the development of bilateral relations."
I think we could turn this around: remind China that Taiwan could get the latest AEGIS system unless we get their vote.
U.S. diplomats acknowledge that they are struggling to line up the nine votes required to pass the resolution. Six countries -- Russia, Britain, the Philippines, Pakistan, Algeria and Angola -- are expected to support the United States, according to council diplomats. France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Benin and Chile have indicated they will abstain. Romania's U.N. ambassador, Mihnea Ioan Motoc, said his government will abstain unless its vote is responsible for defeating the U.S. resolution.
That [the past US] strategy has fueled resentment against the Bush administration at the United Nations. More than 40 countries have a standing request to discuss the resolution in a public debate. A senior diplomat said most nations will use the event to criticize the resolution, and to draw attention to U.S. abuses of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan. "We think the resolution is not compatible with the U.N. charter," one Canadian diplomat said. "It's harmful to international accountability for serious crimes and the rule of law."
I'm waiting for the Court to indict Saddam.
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"exemption is wrong"
Except for himself and his cronies, of course.
FOAD, Coffee.
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The exemption is symbolic. If Kosovo is under NATO control, I can't imagine that Americans will be sporting blue hats anytime soon. NATO participation is probably a bad idea for the US as well, due to the political views of Belgium. Kerry needs to be asked for an immediate expression of his opinion on this subject.
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SH - He'd have to back Anon, I'd bet - but would toss in some thoroughly-nuanced Get Out of Jail Free bits to let him flop his flip later, when the stupidity of it caught up to him. I can't think of a more weasley gutless manipulative fuck - even Carter has his deluded idea of principles, and swings a 16 oz hammer like a kid to back them up. Skeery's a pure vacuous politician. He has been all his life and has planned his path very carefully, climbing over the dead bodies of others and the crispy dead husks of what might've been principles, but I doubt it, all to reach this moment in time.
But I don't have any strong opinions about him.
;-)
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I voted for Kerry before I voted against him. Err...no, that's not right. Hmmm, I voted, and perhaps just a few votes were near Kerry. No, that's not right either.
I don't vote for traitors. That's it!
Join the Imperialist Warmonger Party today! No signup taxes!
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The solution seems simple to me: no waiver from political prosecution, no troops for UN adventuring. Let's see how long the rest of the world can/will support Koffi and gang when it's mostly their blood and treasure on the line rather than ours.
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Find someone else to do your dirty work and finance your corrupt operation, Kofi, and get it the hell OUT of New York and OFF American soil. The sooner, the better.
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So what's the problem here? We put panties on prisoner's heads and they think we are Attila the Hun. Grind up some people in Sammy's shredder and all you hear are crickets chirping. But aside from that, no exemption, no peacekeepers, and THAT includes airlift capability. Go charter the DeGaulle a tug and barge, Koffi, for all we care. BTW, you foot the bill for peacekeepers. We're outa here.
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Yea, that's what I meant. -- Thanks
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HEY KOFI!
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"Blanket exemption is wrong. It is of dubious judicial value and I don't think it should be encouraged by the Council." (BBC)
Dubious judicial value...heeheehee. As if Kofi would appreciate anything other than dubious, as if he stands up for anything resembling justice.
Truth is folks that Kofi sees the US as the evil of the world and wants us to do serious penance for it (empty your wallet, get on your knees, and accept whatever they shove in your mouth). Then apologize for it and accept your jail term for the affrontery of being an American.
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When the global court is used to prosecute real criminals (like Kimmie in North Korea, Castro, and Bob of Zimbabwae) instead of being used primarily to harrass Israel and the US I'll consider, talking, about the US joining the global court.
Until then we're watching the oil-for-food investigation Kofi, and your son may be in trouble.
Executive Summary - 1. Leave Syria alone. 2. The US has a bias in favor of Israel. 3. Donât try to free Lebanon from Syrian rule/occupation as Syrians have a historical tie with the Lebanese that makes subjugation Okee Dokee (for questions see Sudetan Land.)
Foreign Ministers of the Organization of the Islamic countries (OIC) stressed rejection of the so-called Syria ul the Ministers said in a final statement that Syria Accountability Act is a violation of the international law, the UN resolutions and the OIC convention. The statement asserted solidarity with Syria and appreciation of her call for adopting dialogue and diplomacy for resolving disputes with Washington. Foreign Ministers called upon the united States to reassess this Act in order not to miss opportunities for the establishment of peace in the region, asserting that the American move represents bias to Israel and hurts Arab interests. So the OIC position is that holding Syria accountable for allowing terrorists into Iraq demonstrated bias toward Israel. Letâs cease looking for moderate Muslims and search instead for Muslims that are not totally brain-dead.
They also called for solidarity with Lebanon against all attempts to influence historical relations with Syria, stressing rejection to intervene in Lebanonâs internal affairs.
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If it wasnât clear before, it is crystal clear now that the war in Iraq is a regional war. At stake are the tyrannies that hold sway over the Middle East. At the epicenter of this tyrannical world is Iran, a nation feverishly panting for nuclear weapons and simultaneously funding and supporting terrorist organizations of every stripe. Iran is terror central. The mullahs in this peculiar nation realize that a stable Iraq on its border that will make strides economically challenges willy-nilly the very existence of the present Iranian government.
That, of course, explains why the Iranian leaders send arms and money to Muqtada al-Sadr and why the Iranian Revolutionary Guard has been sent across the border to attack American troops. The mullahs are intent on reducing U.S. influence in the region as its own broadcasts proclaim. The pursuit of nuclear weapons is merely an extension of this general policy since WMD serve as a counterweight to American conventional weapons superiority. With nuclear weapons in their possession, the mullahs assume â probably rightly â that punitive strikes by the U.S. would be restrained and U.S. forces would be hostage to nuclear terror. In this scenario, Iranâs terror masterminds can go about their bombings and assassinations with impunity.
Should Iran undermine the U.S. position in Iraq, it would serve as a checkmate in the regional chess game. Nearby nations might seek pragmatic agreement with Iran in order to forestall terrorist groups, and U.S. prestige would be dealt a major blow. Moreover, the war on terror would be far more difficult to control than it is at the moment.
What then can the United States do? First and foremost we must deploy our forces in Iraq in a decisive way. Deals with the terrorists cannot be brokered. We must display the full lethality of our fighting force not only to secure Iraq but to send a message to Iran. Second, the United States must insist on transparent nuclear weapons inspections by the I.A.E.A., the organization discharged with this responsibility. The dispersal of weapons sites in Iran is an ipso facto suggestion that weapons grade plutonium is probably being concealed. Despite tense relations with western European capitals, this U.S. administration should point out at every opportunity how dangerous nuclear weapons in the hands of the radical Islamists would be.
Third, Iâm convinced that Secretary of State Colin Powell should tell the Iranian leadership that we are more capable of disrupting the Iranian government than the Iranian government is capable of disrupting Iraq. What is sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander. It is time for tough talk since diplomatic speech does not appear to be working.
Fourth, the U.S. should be prepared to deploy non-military sub rosa means to undermine the Iranian government and embolden the many liberal groups in the country eager for regime change. The State Department gives lip service to this notion, but neither State nor the CIA seem to have a clear strategy to bring about this result.
As I see it, Iran is the wild card in the region. Unrestrained, it will cast an ominous shadow over Syria, support Hamas in the Palestinian territory, send troops into Afghanistan, and foment terror in Turkey. Some of these conditions already exist and others could be moving in an ominous direction. Iraq is the first step in forestalling Iran. We must realize that and realize as well that this is a regional war in a high stakes effort. To fight half-heartedly wonât send the appropriate message. There is much more at stake here than some barren desert land. The future of mankind is contained in this cradle of civilization. History has anointed the United States as global protector. We cannot shun this responsibility. In fact, as I see it, there isnât any alternative other than defeating Iranian extremists and radical Islamists so that we can win the war on terror.
About the author: Herbert London is president of the Hudson Institute and John M. Olin Professor of Humanities, and author of the recently published book "Decade of Denial," from Lexington Books. He can be reached through http://www.benadorassociates.com.
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There is much more at stake here than some barren desert land. The future of mankind is contained in this cradle of civilization. History has anointed the United States as global protector. We cannot shun this responsibility. In fact, as I see it, there isnât any alternative other than defeating Iranian extremists and radical Islamists so that we can win the war on terror.
Whingeing about "America is the world's policeman" beginning in: 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...
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Let's make a simple comparison: the Iran of today, and Japan of the late 1930s--a comparison of what their intentions are in the world.
The Iranians seek what the Japanese called, "Our place in the sun."
The Japanese wanted to dominate the Pacific and all of southern Asia. Iran wants to dominate the entire middle east and most of Central Asia.
But unlike Japan, Iran is not up to the task, except through deluding itself that a nuclear weapon or two makes it a major world power.
If they are fortunate, if Allah smiles on them, then every Mullah will end up with their head on a pole, before a war could begin. If not, then millions of innocent lives could be lost before they are sewn up in pigskin and buried in a cesspit.
Leaders of the 25-member EU are to call for closer relations between Iran and the European bloc during their summit in Brussels on Thursday and Friday. According to a draft resolution of the summit on Iran, EU leaders will "stress the Unionâs desire to move towards a closer relationship with Iran, on the basis of action by Iran to address the EUâs concerns regarding Iranâs nuclear programme, the fight against terrorism, human rights and Iranâs approach to the Middle East Peace Process."" The draft notes the "ongoing work of the IAEA in Iran and urges full cooperation with the Agency in a spirit of full transparency in relation to its nuclear programme, with a view to solving all outstanding problems." "The EU will continue discussion in light of IAEA Director-General El-Baradeiâs recent report and the outcome of the IAEA Board of Governors meeting currently taking place in Vienna," concludes the draft resolution.
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Been there, done that.
I am holding out hope that the new entrants to the EU have a spine.
The Iranian religious leaders must be laughing over this.
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Closer relationship? Meaning the oft-cited dialogue our EU friends so love?
Won't that be nice. Tea between diplomats with the women shuffled away to the back room so as not to entice the visitors with exposed nose and eyelid flesh.
WaPo Editorial. Minimal weasling and slurs. Well above average.
Friday, June 18, 2004
Nine months ago, as a confrontation loomed between Iran and the United Nations over Iranâs illicit nuclear programs, three European governments staged a preemptive operation. Flying to Tehran, the foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany struck a deal with Iranâs Islamic regime: The Europeans would block a referral of Iranâs violations to the U.N. Security Council and provide technical cooperation, and in exchange Iran would stop its work on uranium enrichment, fully disclose its nuclear programs and accept a new U.N. protocol giving inspectors greater access. The Bush administration was upstaged; some in Paris and Berlin smugly suggested that it had been given an object lesson by the Europeans in how "soft power" could be used to manage the rogue states in President Bushâs "axis of evil."
This week, with the worldâs attention focused on the troubled situation in Iraq, the European version of preemption is yielding its own bitter -- if less bloody -- result. Inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency have reported that Iran never honored its agreement; it has stalled and stonewalled the inspectors while continuing to work on elements of a nuclear program that could soon allow it to produce weapons. The Europeans have responded by drafting for approval by the 35-member IAEA board a stern statement demanding Iranian cooperation; Tehran has replied with threats to restart uranium enrichment and suspend negotiations with the West.
Probably there will be no such rupture, and IAEA inspectors and European officials will resume their efforts to obtain Iranian cooperation. But there can be no disguising the fact that the European strategy for handling one of the worldâs most dangerous proliferation problems is proving feckless. It has not produced the daily casualties and chaos now seen in Iraq. But it could, within a year or two, lead to an outcome as bad as or worse than any now foreseen in Baghdad: possession of nuclear weapons or the means to quickly make them by a hard-line Islamic regime that sponsors several anti-Western terrorist organizations. Both the United States and Israel have said they will not tolerate such an outcome.
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Inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency have reported that Iran never honored its agreement; it has stalled and stonewalled the inspectors while continuing to work on elements of a nuclear program that could soon allow it to produce weapons.
Isn't this sufficient message to Europe that Iran will continue to do what Iran does best, which is lie through their teeth as they pursue goals completely contrary to regional peace and global stability?
The problem in Iran cannot and will not be negotiated away. Whether they are willing to admit it openly or not, Europe and IAEA have already reveived convincing proof of that.
Iran's mullahs will act only in accord with their own favorite form of motivation, THE BUSINESS END OF GUN.
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Isn't this sufficient message to Europe that Iran will continue to do what Iran does best, which is lie through their teeth as they pursue goals completely contrary to regional peace and global stability?
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What the hell does an appeaser flight to Iran-land have to do with preemption. These WaPo folks are proven moonbats.
Real story: Iran-land liberation maybe, Iraq liberation by warmongers. Anybody at WaPo know a good shrink?
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THE BUSINESS END OF GUN.
Scuse me for being cynical, but I noticed the WaPo is advertising on FOX for subscriptions. Maybe the clue bat hit them from the accounting department. Keep writing garbage and you'll soon have ample time to blog your propaganda for free.
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From Al-Muhaajiroun
In response to todayâs accusations made by Reuters, CNN and the New York Times, linking Al-Muhajiroun to supposed plots to blow up pubs and trains in London - it seems that the upper hand of the US regime i.e. FBI, are willing to try any means to silence political opposition to their own rotten ideology and barbaric foreign policy. .... CNN and other news sources confirm that Muhammad Junaid Babar is under FBI custody (and has been since April) as a material witness for ongoing investigations.
The point of concern is the link drawn between Muhammad Junaid and Al-Muhajiroun. As well as the claim that members of Al-Muhajiroun in London recently purchased a ton of ammonium nitrate. ....
Al-Muhajiroun North America as well as Al-Muhajiroun U.K denies any relationship to Muhammad Junaid Babar. Although he was studying with Al-Muhajiroun until late 2001, he was never actually an affiliated member of the organization and indeed he made a decision to leave the organization and subsequently all ties have been broken. Al-Muhajiroun has not retained contact with him since 2001 nor is Al-Muhajiroun aware of any links between Muhammad Junaid and Al-Qaeda nor are there any links between Al-Muhajiroun and any âPakistani terroristsâ in London attempting to âcarry out operationsâ as falsely indicated by a number of news organizations.
Al-Muhajiroun has a very clear and explicit call which does not include its members engaging in military operations in western countries. .... Members of Al-Muhajiroun engage in writing articles, press releases, giving lectures in various mosques and other public venues and any allegations of Al-Muhajiroun engaging in any sort of military operations has been refuted on numerous occasions.
Despite our disassociation with Muhammad Junaid we do call for his release and ask that Allah (s.w.t) be merciful upon him and his family as well as the thousands of Muslims that have been unjustly imprisoned. This is the nature of the clash between Tawheed and Shirk. ...
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EFL - Like Christianity and Judaism, in Islam there are times when one can lie and times when one must lie. The difference is that in Islam, the theology of lying is expansive and the requirement to lie is fairly broad/
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Islamic concept of Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy kafir countries
According to Al-Taqiyah, Muslims were granted the Sharâiyee right (legitimacy) to infiltrate the Dar el-Harb (war zone), infiltrate the enemyâs cities and forums and plant the seeds of discord and sedition. These agents were acting on behalf of the Muslim authority at war, and therefore were not considered as lying against or denouncing the tenants of Islam.
They were "legitimate" mujahedeen, whose mission was to undermine the enemyâs resistance and level of mobilization. One of their major objectives was to cause a split among the enemyâs camp while downplaying the issues related to Islam ("Oh, I am not religious." "Oh, that is not Islam, you are mistaken, there is so much misinformation." "Oh, it is in the interpretation." "Brother, Islam is all about peace and love and music just like in the 60s.")...
These are examples of a practice known as taqiyya, which essentially means to lie for the sake of Islam. The intention is to deceive unbelievers about Islam, for the explicit purpose of assuaging doubts and concerns about Islam, and encouraging conversion. Taqiyya underlies the whole gamut of Muslim propaganda which is disseminated in the West, from the claim that Islam promotes equal rights for women, to the attempts at inflating the perceived number of Muslims...
Taqiyya goes beyond mere lying for propaganda purposes. The word comes from a root meaning "to guard against, to keep (oneself)". It thus also includes dissimulation by the Muslim to give the appearance of not being religious, so as not to arouse suspicion. In this vein, a Muslim, if necessary, may eat pork, drink alcohol, and even verbally deny the Islamic faith, as long as he does not "mean it in his heart". If the end result of the lie is perceived by the Muslim to be good for Islam or useful to bringing someone to "submission" to Allah, then the lie can be sanctioned through taqiyya. As al-Tabbarah writes,
"Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: âHe is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good."28
The taqiyya concept is also found in the Qurâan,
"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah." (Surah 3:28)
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How can you tell an Islamist is lying?
His lips are moving.
Ba da bum, thank you,thank you very much , I'll be here all week.
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"Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: âHe is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good."
Wow. Lying is sanctioned in the holy book of world's most dangerous religion. Guess we knew this all along. Don't they imagine their "God" watches them and sees their crimes?
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I should have mentioned that although al-Tabbarah (who is quoted above) is a contemporary Islamic scholar. The concept of lying is illustrated extensively in the Hadiths and also explained in detail by Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali, a widely respected (in both Sunni and Shia Islam) authority who lived during the golden age of Islamic thought in the 11 century in present day Iran)
Judasim:
Mother to son: How can you treat me this way? Don't you know that my labor was ____ [ok to lie] hours long and I [ok to lie] almost died delivering you?
Islam:
We are a peaceful religion.
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Antisemite--
You obviously feel taqiyah also applies to Islamofascist fellaters like yourself. And the websites you love so much.
jules187: "Don't they imagine their "God" watches them and sees their crimes?" Yeah. Their god watches all right. And promotes/expects/requires/condones all of it! " . . . for the final goal is to Allah."
Everybody's gotta watch Tim Burton's film "Mars Attacks." Martians: "We come in peace!"
Good one, although I much prefer the alien movie, (drug addict alien came to earth for brain drug who states,"I come in peace",). Hero retort, "Then you leave in pieces". Kind of appropo, don't you think?
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Hundreds of west African leaders -- heads of state, Islamic royalty and traditional chiefs -- were due in this ancient northern Nigerian city ahead of a celebration of the bicentenary of the Caliphate of Sokoto, the region's most renowned Muslim kingdom. At the height of his powers, the Sultan ruled a huge tract of northern Nigeria and wielded spiritual and political influence over a huge swathe of territory running through the parched grazing lands of the Sahel semi-desert from the highlands of Cameroon to the cool waters of the mid-Atlantic. "Although the core of the Caliphate lies within the boundaries of present day Nigeria, it covered an area of 250,000 square miles (650,000 square kilometres) and stretched as far as Nikki in Benin, Ngaundere and Tibati in Cameroon and much of the southern part of the Niger Republic," said Ibrahim Gadido, information commissioner for modern day Sokoto State. Even beyond this vast domain, the rulers of Sokoto received tribute and allegiance from lesser princes in Islamic lands as far afield as Senegal and Sudan, he added, as the great and the good of the region gathered in this dusty trading centre near Nigeria's far northern border.
The present Sultan, Muhammadu Maccido Abubakar III, will host two days of ceremonies, culminating in a spectacular durbar, a colourful display of the skilled horsemanship of the region's Hausa and Fulani peoples. "All the former heads of state of Nigeria will attend, some of them have already arrived. More than 200 traditional rulers from inside and outside Nigeria will participate in the ceremony, and we are expecting 11 heads of state," he said. It was not clear on Friday which of the invited leaders would be coming to Sokoto. Most are thought to be coming from west and north Africa. Nigeria's President Olusegun Obasanjo will be guest of honour, and President John Kufuor of Ghana's office confirmed he would take part.
Since the days when the first sultan, Usman Dan Fodio, and his horseborne warriors ruled the its northern plains, Nigeria has been though several incarnations, and is now run as a federal republic under an elected president. But the Sultan still enjoys great respect and influence as the spiritual leader of the nation's 65 million Muslims, and still has followers in Islamic communities as far away as Burkina Faso. And with the tensions between the Muslim north and Nigeria's equally numerous southern Christians never far from the surface, it is today seen as vitally important for Nigeria's temporal lords to pay proper respect to the pride and tradition represented in the bicentenary spectacular. "There is a need to emphasize the continuing relevance of the Caliphate ideal and re-emphasize its integrative essence, which forged a strong bond of unity, community and solidarity in an expansive multicultural environment," said Gadido.
More, if you're not diabetic...
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President Laurent Gbagbo is to meet several west African leaders this weekend to discuss restive Ivory Coast, beginning Saturday with talks in the Togolese capital Lome with veteran Togo President Gnassingbe Eyadema.
"Veteran presidents" are the ones that were around when the Hundred Years War started...
The two presidents are then expected Sunday in Abuja, where Ghana's John Kufuor and Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo will be waiting to discuss how to extricate Ivory Coast, the world's top cocoa producer, from 20 months of crisis spawned by a failed coup against Gbagbo in September 2002. Eyadema is considered a close ally of the embattled Ivory Coast leader and has been urged by the Ivorian political elite to get more involved in resolving the low-level conflict and political bickering splitting the country between the rebel-held north and the government-run south. The Togolese leader was tapped by the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) to mediate two months of talks in late 2002 between the Gbagbo government and the rebel movements who rose against it. His prime minister, Koffi Sama, also held talks earlier this month with the main protagonists in the crisis that has had economic implications for the region once-dependant on Ivory Coast's stability and thriving, cocoa-based economy.
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Disney Doom: â80 Daysâ the Latest $100 Million Flop After Just One Day
Disney, the movie studio that canât buy a break these days, is about to have a very bad weekend. Their big new $100 million-plus movie, "Around the World in 80 Days," opened on Wednesday to very little interest. Its take was about $1.5 million on over 2,700 screens. According to boxofficemojo.com, the negatively-reviewed movie starring Jackie Chan had a $540 per screen average. That translates into about 50 people per theater.
. . . . Apparently his final film as the polygamous (Islamic?) Prince Hapi failed to draw any audience. Not his fault. Besides he is busy right now!
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Lets be honest, how many advertisements has anyone seen for this movie? I didn't even know it was out, I assumed it was coming out later in the Summer. If they are unwilling to dump cash into advertising they risk a huge flop, that's how the business works.
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Big Ed, Arney had a cameo part in the movie. I don't think it helped one way or the other. On another note the Demoncrats here in the golden state fear the Govenator. That is why he is so effective, not unhlike my favorite Gov Ronny Reagan. I like the story and will probably rent this when it comes out on video (I rarely go to the movies).
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The movie didn't seem to be that great, from the commercials; half the lure (Jackie Chan) isn't there anymore, because he's wearing down physically and is apparently leaning towards more slapstick than physical comedy. Moreover, he's reportedly grown disgruntled with the US film market (Asian films getting treated poorly and all) and will keep the next "chapter" of the Police Story series away from US distributors.
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I love Jackie movies, as do my two teenage sons - I asked them today if they knew this flick was out and they said no. What kinda advertising effort doesn't reach MTV/ComedyCentral-watching kids or Foxnews/HBO watching adults?
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"half the lure (Jackie Chan) isn't there anymore"
Guys - here's the problem. Not written or directed by Jackie. I heard that his pkg deal had required that he do one or two with someone else calling the shots - this is an example of the result.
EFL
Opponents of filmmaker Michael Moore are making the most of an endorsement his Bush-bashing film "Fahrenheit 9/11" received from terrorists affiliated with Hezbollah. The Guardian of London reported today organizations related to the Middle East-based terrorist network have offered to help promote the film in the United Arab Emirates. Have they endorsed Kerry as well?
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The Head'Bowlers recognized Moore for his earlier work in films. - The "Star Wars" trilogy.
The admire his courage. Its difficult to move around when you resemble a giant slug.
They also have endorsed Kerry. They met him at some swanky New York Bistro. A place where pork is not on the menu.
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It is embarfassing, but far less embarfssing than what the Abu Gharib soldiers did.
It's not surprising that the woman who did more to embarrass and endanger the entire US army was stupid enough to herself knocked up by a sleeze bag. Says more about her than it does about us.
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Whatâs next!?
Russian anti-virus software developer Kaspersky Labs said Tuesday it has discovered the first-ever virus capable of spreading through cell phone networks. If the Cabir virus penetrates the system, the word "Caribe" will appear on phone screens when the infected file is launched. The virus is activated every time phones are turned on. The virus will not destroy software but can scan for other phone numbers to send copies of itself.
Coming up: Something that'll reformat your microwave? That'll cause your toaster to spew spam? Or â horrors! â something that'll crash your plumbing?
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After reading the article, I didnât know whether to laugh or cry. It is truley sad to see people so immersed in hatred have any audience and to have any publication or organization take them seriously. Guess they canât handle their booze or pot, or whatever chemical compound they ingest to fill them with such hatred.
Both chose me as her first guest. She had read my latest book The New Anti-Semitism: The Current Crisis and What We Must Do About It and wanted to feature my views on the program. She and others on the feminist collective who produce âFeminist Magazineâ were still reeling from the continuing barrage of on-air and off-air hate, deceit, and disinformation often leveled against them by Jewish left feminists.
A representative from the L.A. chapter of Women in Black â which is now calling for the removal of âFeminist Magazineâ from the air -- had been interviewed on KPFK. When asked about Muslim-on-Muslim oppression, she responded that âIsraelâs transgressions in this areaâ was her main bailiwick; she was not âconcernedâ by anyone who oppressed the Palestinians other than Jewish Israelis. Genuine fascists in the purest form of the concept. Only the right people should live in peace and freedom.
Roth told me that the switchboard lit up while we were still on the air last month. She said many called to protest my views and the views of âFeminist Magazineâ as neither progressive nor feminist. Calls mounted for the censure and removal of âFeminist Magazineâ from the air or from the control of the feminist collective. Watch the left: they love rhetoric, so when they use the term âmanyâ it is very often more than two, but not much more than three.
Two days ago, a protest petition to KPFK listeners appeared on the Internet in which my entire interview had been carefully, painfully transcribed (thanks to whoever did that), as proof that the views expressed are ânot in keeping with the Pacifica Mission. The petition claimed that my views, and the views of Feminist Magazine, are âat best, self-indulgent and irrelevant to todayâs feminism, and at worst, racist and not worthy of Pacifica.â What a coincidence. So is Pacifica.
Other charges include the fact that I write for Fronpage Magazine (where Ann Coulter also writes), support the war against terrorism/the war in Iraq, and have said that I may vote for President Bush in the next election. This all âprovesâ that I am no longer a feminist and do not belong on any feminist program. In addition, any feminist program that interviews me has no right to Pacifica air time. Pacifica is so vile in its own racism, it sounds like they have no right to air time and they own the damn station! And writing for David Horowitz is bad. Wait âtil you write for The Nation...
Oh wait...
The Chinese Cultural Revolution is alive and well in left feminist America.
The petition sends readers to a Nation Magazine article, written by the anti-Zionist Jew Brian Klug, who reviewed my book. The petition writers, who seem to believe that Nation Magazine is the Bible, claim that Klugâs article âtotally refutes and rejects Cheslerâs claims.â Ah, would that he could or did. Klugâs article was, in my view, so typical of the Nationâs handling of the subjectâi.e. so shabby, cult-like, and pedestrian, that I did not even bother writing a letter.
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#6 I don't think it means kill all of the jews. It only means overcome(kill) all of the jews in Palestine and any other zionists who may support them in 3rd party countries.
I guess that would fall under protected speech. It would also fall under hypocritical and bigoted.
The notion of "Zionist homeland" sends them into spasms but the parallel notion of a "Palestinian homeland" is a-ok.
There are just some folks who think there is no place on this earth for Jews unless they are ruled by Arabs or anihiliated by anyone.
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Is the San Andres fault due to move anytime soon? California needs to be detached from the mainland and sent floating in search of a culture more in sinc with its habitants. Malaysia or Indonesia, perhaps?
My apologies to those Californians who participate here.
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Sally Peterson...Peterson admits the word "shahada," besides being a reference to Islam, "has also taken on many other meanings depending on where you sit. For some it is seen as 'kill all Jews' or it is seen as a reference to suicide bombers," she said.
So incitement to murder a religious/ethnic group is protected speech?
Despite different meanings applied to the Arabic word, the administrator said UCI is not permitted to limit the Muslim Student Union members' freedom to wear the sashes.
"This is a public university, and we are not permitted â no matter how offensive the speech â not to allow it or we are violating the First Amendment," Peterson said..."It's clearly a violation of free speech if we do not permit it," Peterson said. "There has been significant case law to back this up."
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So, Sally - you wouldn't have any problem if somebody else photographs the idiots' faces, identifies them, and makes a tape of their speech? Just for documentation?
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Frank, The Jewish organizations asked the University to tape the speeches (no doubt given in closed session) or even record which speakers the muslem organization invites and the University refued.
This organization clearly and openly supports a terrorist organization (ham-ass).
I wonder what the university would say of someone brought an American or Israeli flag? Or a cross or star of david? Somehow I dont think these would be allowed.
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I don't think it means kill all of the jews. It only means overcome(kill) all of the jews in Palestine and any other zionists who may support them in 3rd party countries.
It really a fairly benighn statement of love for Palestine.
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1 #6 I don't think it means kill all of the jews. It only means overcome(kill) all of the jews in Palestine and any other zionists who may support them in 3rd party countries.
I guess that would fall under protected speech. It would also fall under hypocritical and bigoted.
The notion of "Zionist homeland" sends them into spasms but the parallel notion of a "Palestinian homeland" is a-ok.
There are just some folks who think there is no place on this earth for Jews unless they are ruled by Arabs or anihiliated by anyone.
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Juneifer - "It really a fairly benighn statement of love for Palestine"
You need to lay off the sauce. Yesterday you posted with this confabulated 'Juneifer' spelling then, later in the thread, you posted as 'Jennifer'. If you're going to troll, you should at least try to stay sober enough to type your own troll nym. The rest of what you type is, of course, irrelevant. We demand and deserve classier, more clever trolls.
From Brother Dave Gardner's character "Baby" (stolen by Flip Wilson and renamed "Geraldine" 20+ yrs later): "Get away from that wheelbarrow, you don't know nothing 'bout machinery!"
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"It's clearly a violation of free speech if we do not permit it," Peterson said. "There has been significant case law to back this up."
Horsesh!t! HATE SPEECH IS NOT PROTECTED BY LAW. If these same students wanted to wear swastikas on their gowns, do you think this issue would have even sparked the least debate?
Any reference to "martyrdom" is a form of support for Islamic terrorism. The school need only obtain an injunction seeking to restrain such antagonistic displays for fear of them inciting violence. Concern for the safety of their students constitutes perfectly acceptable grounds for University officials to act upon. The hearing can conveniently be scheduled for after the graduation ceremonies and those Islamic students can stuff their "shahada" sashes where the sun don't shine.
Isn't it about time that a clear and indisputable connection be drawn between militant Islam and Nazism? Both avowedly seek the annihilation of the Jews and have previously collaborated in doing exactly that.
I will repeat a simple question I have asked here before:
What church could possibly allow uniformed Nazis to openly worship under their roof without inspiring universal condemnation?
So it is with Islam. That this religion permits advocates of terrorism and Holocaust to openly participate or preach in their church's functions must increasingly be regarded as a COMPLETE NEGATION of Islam's worth.
Moderate Muslims had better set about rectifying this d@mn soon. Failure to make conspicuous inroads upon eliminating jihadist elements from within their ranks will soon spell Islam's doom.
Another few 9-11 atrocities will be all it takes for massive public demonstrations to begin burning down mosques in western nations. I do not think such mobs will be too concerned if those mosques are occupied or not. No threat is intended by my stating this, only a promise.
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"I don't think it means kill all of the jews."
Yes, you do.
(Say hi to Antiwar and Gentle for me.)
Zenster's right. A bunch of students wearing sashes with little "decorative" swastikas probably wouldn't go over very well--funny, cuz there's no difference between the two.
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Thx :) She's now posting blather designed to "fit in" - wotta twit. She'll just change nyms and play the game from the inside, mouthing A while insinuating B. Sad.
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"Get away from that wheelbarrow, you don't know nothing 'bout machinery!"
LOL! Needed some laugh therapy....thanks.....
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Maybe someone should call the police during the ceremony and report them as terrorists. After all, they'll be dressed as exploding lama's...err, homicide bombers.
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Zenster's right. A bunch of students wearing sashes with little "decorative" swastikas probably wouldn't go over very well--funny, cuz there's no difference between the two.
Thank you, ex-lib. I think it is high time for all people who oppose Islamic domination to openly and loudly begin associating Islamists and Nazis at every opportunity. They both have the same agenda, methods and levels of indoctrination, so what is the difference? Each of them simultaneously praise and deny the Holocaust. What surer sign is there of their moral bankruptcy identicality?!?
While the Nazis sought Jewish genocide, the Islamists are a wee bit more ambitious. They seek nothing short of GLOBAL CULTURAL GENOCIDE. That is the sole difference between them, and one that only should alarm people all the more.
What more will it take for people to realize that they both represent the exact same identical threat to every culture on earth?
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I don't know that the sashes qualify as any type of speech, protected or illegal. I do know that an employer should be allowed to choose not to employ an apologist for splodey-dopes without being sued for discrimination. The KKK certainly doesn't qualify as a protected creed or religion. Why should terrorist sympathy qualify as a protected creed?
If I were a student, I would sport a Red, White and Blue sash. If other students don't don sashes with anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, of the USMC crest, then they have ceded the right to express themselves without challenge. For those students who are less political, a Budweiser sash would certainly be appropriate. The end result would have to be either a moratorium against all sash wearing, a battle royal or a demonstration of maturity on the part of all involved. Any of those results would be perfectly acceptable to me although I would certainly take only long odds on the "maturity" option.
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In 2002, thirteen-year-old Mitch Muller, then a seventh-grader at North Valley Middle School, was expelled for possession of what the school called a "firearm facsimile." The school officials imposed this penalty because of the stateâs zero tolerance policy, which bars any firearm or "firearm facsimile that could reasonably be mistaken for an actual firearm" on school grounds. However, Weld District Court Judge Julie Hoskins decided that officials at North Valley Middle School had abused their discretion by labeling the miniscule laser pointer as a firearm facsimile. The judge ruled that a 2 and 1/2-inch toy gun that can be hidden in the palm of oneâs hand could not reasonably be mistaken for an actual gun.
Mullerâs attorney, John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, says the Hoskinsâ ruling is "cause for jubilation" because zero-tolerance cases are very difficult to win. "Finally," he says, "we have a judge who has looked at ... this really crazy area of zero tolerance, where kids are thrown out of school for having Alka-Seltzer or Midol, or a squirt gun -- expelled from school for a year for a squirt gun -- and said, âListen, this is really silly. Youâve abused your discretion here. This boy should never have been expelled from school for having a laser pointer.â"
Public schools have been enforcing zero-tolerance policies since the mid-1990âs and according to Whitehead, since the Columbine massacre, they have gotten worse. He hopes the ruling in the Greeley case will send a message to school officials that "compassion and common sense need to be restored to the classroom." The Rutherford Institute spokesman says his legal group is working toward getting Mullerâs records "cleaned up" so he and his family can move on. "This is a good kid who just simply happened to pick up another school friendâs laser and point it, and the red dot hit the blackboard," he says. "These are the kinds of things that, when I was a kid, happened on a regular basis," Whitehead adds, "and teachers usually didnât care. But today itâs met with expulsion." Judge Hoskins has in fact ordered the school district to remove Mitch Mullerâs expulsion from his records. However, according to the Greeley Tribune newspaper, Superintendent Jo Barbie says the district is talking with lawyers about the possibilities of an appeal, although no decision has been made as yet. The school district is concerned that they might not look silly enough yet so an appeal may be required. Afterall itâs taxpayer money they plan to spend on the appeal.
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Just to tweak school officials, this kid should carry around the school grounds a photograph of a pistol.
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True stories from the Heartland- little Clinton Iowa. About 4 years ago we had a kindergartener given a 3 day suspension for packing a clear red plastic water pistol. Two years ago, my 2nd grade son was denied showing a magazine in class because it had a picture of a gun on the cover.
I won't put it past the PC crowd to outlaw the letters g,u and n, because of what they can be used to spell.
hell my school tried to have me expelled because I had the ability to send e-mail
(they made it difficult to achieve, but I never signed no paper saying 'I will not send e-mail while at school')
public school is worthless
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Just wondering, don't public education officials have enough problems with the fact that they're proven failures? Isn't it a well-known, hell - world renowned, fact that US schoolchildren are poorly educated and falling behind? I believe that would indicate failure.
I suggest that they stop making policy and playing lawyer long enough to correct some of the flaws in our public education system. First they could cut Admin by half (the top half) and use that money to lure better qualified and motivated people to become teachers. Second, most school boards should have a Jonestown-styled Kool-Aid party. I think these two actions would be a fair start. Then we can see if there is any reason to believe the LLL lunacy can be moderated without the wholesale 're-education*' of the agencies, institutes, think-tanks, universities, and theorists who direct the education material publishers to revise everything that doesn't suit their lunatic hate-America agenda.
IMHO, this is easily the most dangerous and egregious misuse of power and usurption of rights (to the simple unadorned / unmodified truth) in America today. Faith-based groups infringing upon the Constitution? Pfeh. Patriot Act undermining rights? Bullshit. This is it: our future. Even the Wahhabists get it - this is literally the most important aspect of any society - those who prevail and wield power in Education today, determine who rules, and how, tomorrow.
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"[D]on't public education officials have enough problems..."
It's the Standard Bureaucratic Responseâ¢: When you don't want to do the work that you're supposed to do, make a big noise doing something else-- and hope nobody notices. Nothing new here.
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Would there even be a 'zero' tolerence program if we could all be reasonable? However, the first reaction of many parents, no matter what the behavior of their offspring may be, is to threaten to sue the school system. So in defense, the administrators hid behind a simple 'zero' no wiggle room dictate. However, that too has its pitfalls as herein demonstated.
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"(A.G. Heed said that he learned last week that "some person suggested I offended her at that recent conference." He said that he did not know the identity of the person."
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"Three state workers who were in the lounge described Heed's behavior on the dance floor as boorish and rude but not on the level of sexual harassment"
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"The employees told Decker they had not wanted to file a complaint against Heed and were upset their superiors had not kept their account confidential. It was unclear whether any of these employees'accounts was the basis for the investigation into Heed's behavior."
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"He's on a par with (David) Souter, (Tom) Rath and (Warren) Rudman, as far as respect and credibility," said Democratic Rep. Dan Eaton, referring to three past New Hampshire attorney generals"
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"I hate to see good people leave state government," said Sen. Lou D'Allesandro, a Manchester Democrat. "I think Peter Heed is an outstanding person"
This type of nonsense is a lot more dangerous to our society than any supposed abuse of the "Patriot Act"
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rediculous..
you are not harrasing someone unless
A. It's an obvious excessive and overt act in an enviroment where such acts are not common
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B. The person in question asks you to stop
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So someone in the family chambered a bad round, eh, Bob? All your expropriated wealth will not help you when the Grim Reaper goes amidst family and friends. You gonna take your millions and buy drugs for everyone? Doubt it.
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And I'm supposed to give a shit about anything affecting Mugabe why, exactly?
Too bad it ain't you, Bob.
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That reminds me the, AFAIK, true story of an African minister who had contracted AIDS. After learning
the bad news he seduced and f..d as many wives of other ministers he could. He didn't wanted to die alone...
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More Directly
So, how do we get them out here making noise about the ACLU's whining about the Los Angeles County Seal
(Supervisor Antonovich)
who is for keeping seal as-is, as is my supervisor, Knabe.
Note tiny cross which has ACLU in apoplexy in middle-right section.
Of course the Pagan Goddess of Agriculture, Pomona, doesn't bother the three who want the cross removed, even though the is the entire middle third!. . . .
Yaroslavsky (Jewish), Molina (Roman Catholic), and Burke (AME).
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We saw this story a few days ago, but this is a different writeup, and in this one:
The Jordan valley, Dead Sea and the Arava desert all lie on the Syria-Africa faultline, one of the most sensitive seismology zones in the world.
Hundreds of people were killed in a tremor in 1927 that registered 6.2 on the Richter scale and which had its epicenter near the Dead Sea.
Wtf? What the hell is this idiot bit doing in this? They aren't going to cause an earthquake, yet the punk-ass that wrote this thing (I couldn't find a name) is clearly trying to imply that they might.
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Sending a signal to Syria are we? Who knows, maybe this is the prelude to an Israeli pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuke reactor, since the UN has gotten its panties in a wad because we put panties on thugs' heads at Abu Gharib (yeah, we did it, in case you've missed the NYT the last few months!).
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Maybe Lex Luther has decided to try and make that part of Israel ocean front since Superman foiled his California plan. I wonder if there will be an Otisville on the map this time.
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Wtf? What the hell is this idiot bit doing in this? They aren't going to cause an earthquake
LotR, I'm not so sure there wasn't a subtext here to Iran, whose nuclear facilities are located on or near some major faults. Given the recent earthquakes there, it would be a shot across the bow to the mullahs to call their attention to the possibility of triggering movement along one or more of those faults.
Not saying it is actually feasible (don't know one way or the other) but as a symbolic action it gets my attention & I suspect it got attention in Teheran too.
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The AEC was concerned in the early 70s about the effects of u/g nuclear tests on faults and the possibility of triggering earthquakes. We at the USGS were brought in. We measured distance across the faults before, sometimes during, and after tests. Faults stayed locked up. No guarantees, though....Fun in the Nevada sun..
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Maybe Israel is testing an explosive device with enough energy to destroy tunnels.....
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Mr Annan has hinted at the possibility of military intervention although it is not seen as likely. It is not clear what the next step is likely to be at the UN.
.com, my bet is that whatever "action" the UN takes will have a letterhead.
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And "strong" or "stern" wording?
Lol - methinks you're dead right! I read the piece - looked back at the title - and broke out laughing. So (Almost) was added to lend at least a modicum of truth. Too sad. Mebbe the UN should print up a form letter saying something like,
"We're sorry, but all US troops are busy at this time. Due to this inconvenient situation, the UN is toothless. Thank you for thinking of the UN, your one-stop center for bribery, scandal, and 5-star Hotels. The Michelin guide relies upon us - you should too. Please call again."
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The UN won't do anything - and the media will ignore it. I mean its not like they are being forced to wear women's panties on their heads or anything. They are 'just' being murdered, gang raped, and driven from their homes.
Besides, its being done by Muslims so it must be Ok. Religion of Peace you know....
Personally I think the media is waiting until later in the year when they can say 'Why didn't Bush do something?'.
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