Article

2009-01-06 India-Pakistan

ISI plans 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' by 2020 in India

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by john frum 2009-01-06 16:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Pakistanis sure like making maps...

Posted by john frum 2009-01-06 16:02|| 2009-01-06 16:02|| Front Page Top

#2 In fact the person who actually coined the word Pakistan came up with this map

When Pakistan was actually created, Jinnah called it "moth eaten".

Posted by john frum 2009-01-06 16:04|| 2009-01-06 16:04|| Front Page Top

#3 Rehmat Ali's concept of Pakistan was nebulous, impractical and fantasy-ridden. It was to include the entire northwest of India, Kashmir, the Kathiawar peninsula, Kutch, and several enclaves deep within UP, including Delhi and Lucknow. There were to be two independent Muslim states besides Pakistan: Bangistan comprising Bengal and Assam in the east and Osmanistan in the south. These two were to form a federation with Pakistan. The 243 principalities or Rajwaras were to be divided among caste Hindus and "others" and then herded together in a ghetto called Hanoodia. As for the Sikhs, they were to be pushed into an enclave called Sikhia. Other races and religions were to inhabit an encampment by the name of Hanadika. Every non-Muslim was to remain subservient to the master race he called "The Paks". And yes, the subcontinent was to be renamed Dinia. He did not say how he was going to bring all that about.

Looks like somebody in the ISI is also infected with the cartographic bug...

Posted by john frum 2009-01-06 16:06|| 2009-01-06 16:06|| Front Page Top

#4 Sounds like the ISI might wanna call a doctor, as their erection has defintely lasted more then four hours.

Posted by tu3031 2009-01-06 16:19|| 2009-01-06 16:19|| Front Page Top

Alternate Map Reality.

Posted by 3dc 2009-01-06 16:43|| 2009-01-06 16:43|| Front Page Top

#6 3DC, more like

"Here be Glass!"

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-01-06 17:03|| 2009-01-06 17:03|| Front Page Top

#7 OMG 3dc...hands down you win snark of the day award. The Gulf of India. Beautiful.

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 17:09|| 2009-01-06 17:09|| Front Page Top

#8 ok i know this is off topic buti have said it before about the muslim bride ads. I sit a joke i don't get or advertising from someone who the founders of rantburg don't get too choose. Now i'm seeing an add too buy minutes on a phone too call pakistan. Is it a joke or am I going crazy or possibly am i misunderstanding that this site was set up too get real news about the WOT and not the usual bullshit from the MSM?

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-01-06 17:11|| 2009-01-06 17:11|| Front Page Top

#9 BTW...don't know if any readers here would be interested. I'm reminded of this by 3dc's map: the Maldivies has been in the news of late (for those paying attention to the march of islam).

I wrote to a Hitlon resort in the Maldivies recently making inquiry about a reservation for the MONTH of February. I advised the reservationist at the Hilton that my wife is a staunch Catholic and wanted to know where she could attend Mass on Sundays. The response I got from the "nice islamic reservationist" is a hoot given the purported "tolerance" of islam.

Say the word - anyone - and I will post the tolernat islamic response here, in full, freudian typos and all.

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 17:20|| 2009-01-06 17:20|| Front Page Top

#10 rabid whitetail: I don't like seeing the muslim adverts on this website either. But Mr. Fred has to pay for this priviledge we take advantage of.
What I would like to know...Fred...are you there...how much $$$$ do you get from the muzz to post there ads?

I'd like to know so then I know how much we need to send Fred so he does not have to take $$$ from the muzz advertizers.

It's none of my business. I understand that. But I am dusturbed to see muzz adverts here or anywhere.

Is my islamophobia showing?

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 17:26|| 2009-01-06 17:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Pretty please, MarkZ?

As for the ads, they respond to key words in the website text. Since we do write about Muslims an awful lot, therefore we get ads about Muslims. Were we to write a great deal more about Israel (Joooooos and Juice don't cut it), we might get the lovely matchmaking applet I've seen at the Jerusalem Post. Master Fred doesn't choose the ads himself, just allows them to be placed on his site for some sort of fee or kickback.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2009-01-06 17:38|| 2009-01-06 17:38|| Front Page Top

#12 What's the problem. Fred gets the advertiser's money, and here at least, their ad gets no bang for the buck. Looks like win-win to me...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2009-01-06 17:39|| 2009-01-06 17:39|| Front Page Top

#13 I get a chuckle out of the adverts. It would really be great if one of our readers could give us a JD Powers report.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-01-06 17:41|| 2009-01-06 17:41|| Front Page Top

#14 With regard to the muzz adverts that appear on this website ...I don't pretend to understand how it works. I was thinking Fred gets $$$ to put them up. Maybe he doesn't. Lord knows I don't click on the muzz chicks (though some do look hot....anybody here remember Grace from Ranger Up...where is she?)

Anyway..I was thinking...if Fred was getting paid to play the muzz adverts...then maybe we needed to know what it would cost us to pay Fred to take them off.

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 17:53|| 2009-01-06 17:53|| Front Page Top

#15 MarkZ & others who object to the ads - howzabout Fred keeps the ads (however much they bring in, it isn't enough) AND we pay him.

Don't like 'em? Don't look at 'em. I'm very adept at totally ignoring website ads, and I'm not even coordinated.

One question, though, Fred (or mods, if they know) - I was once told that websites get more money if we clicked on the ads. Is that true? If so, I'll make it my business to click on the ads, though goodness knows I'm not interested in any of them. (Except Amazon - I try to remember to always come here first and click through to Amazon when I'm going to buy something there.)

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-06 18:05|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2009-01-06 18:05|| Front Page Top

#16 i wasn't saying frd shoudn't get the money from the adverts , but the last time i mentioned it alot of ppl acted like i was crazy or was just messing with me. I'm not an expert on how the adverts are selected so i didn't know that key words typed would bring certain ones up. But thanks for clarifying this for me everyone. Now i'm off too see my muslim bride. j/k

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-01-06 18:07|| 2009-01-06 18:07|| Front Page Top

#17 By popular demand (hat tip to TW)...you will now read a response I received from a female muslim receptionist (Moli) in the Maldives after I made inquiry about renting a resort cottage for the month of February, 2009.

The resort I contacted was once upon a time branded a HILTON Resort (yes Paris...your trust fund is in good dhimmi shape). The name has been changed to The Conrad (as in Conrad Hitlon).

I made inquiry with two points in mind: the alledged love muslims have for children and alledged muslim tolerance of other religions.

I report. You decide. I have made no changes to the email I received from Moli, except the spelling of my last name. Note the Freudian slips.

Dear Mr. Z- - - - - -:,

Greetings from Conrad Maldives Rangali Island

Many thanks for your interest to spend the holidays at our Resort

The resort is Children friendly and we do have a Kids club " Maaja " for the kids between 03-12yrs. We are more than happy to welcome kids to this Paradise
Each villa is capable to accommodate 03 adults or 02 adults and 02 children . There is only one bed room with one king size bed and extra beds will be placed for the children. Checking the availability, we do have 02 Beach villas only from 02/03/09 onwards. Only our Beach villa has interconnecting villas. ( Deluxe beach villa are only adjoining ) Please note that we are not able to guarantee Beach villas interconnecting in advance as per hotel policy, but we do out utmost to assign accordingly.

Maldives is a 100% Muslim county, but there are many foreigners live in the county only for work. Non Muslims are not allowed to practice or propaganda their religion or principles in the country. There is no Church/Temples are allowed in the country. No Bible , or status /idols belongs to a religion are allowed to bring to the country. However, you can pray at your villa, ( absolutely should be respect to others )

Maldives is a whole year around Tourist destination and very friendly county. We do enjoy our life here without any issues. They respect all people with thief culture and life style.

Trust the above are in order, please let me know if you need any further details

Wishing you and family a merry Xmas and prosperous New year

Kind regards
Moli

Moli Rajeev
Reservations Manager
Conrad Maldives Rangali Island
P.O Box 2034
South Ari Atoll
Republic of the Maldives

Telephone main: [+960] 668 0629
Mobile: [+960] 790 5175
Fax main: [+960] 668 0619
Email: Moli.rajeev@conradhotels.com
ConradHotels.com ConradMeetings.com
The stunning twin island resort of Conrad Maldives Rangali Island has a host of new services and experiences for honeymooners, spa aficionados and gourmet travellers alike.

**************************************************

I could spend all day fisking that email.

Any of our foreign friends who think about spending a dime (or your currency of choice) in the Maldives, I ask that you reconsider. Don't sdpend money on anythoing muzz. Please. I know the Maldivies is a beautiful place. I have seen the pictures of same on the internet. It is. The muzz there think allah created the Maldivies for the muslims forgetting that a hindu and buddhist culture centuries old (who lived in harmony with one another) was wiped out by muzz aggression.

Please: do not go to the Maldivies for vacation. A price needs to be extracted for intolerance. Do not tolerate the intolerant.

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 18:15|| 2009-01-06 18:15|| Front Page Top

#18 (from the e-mail) "thief culture"

Sure, I'd love to go there. Who wouldn't?

/do I really need to?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-06 18:22|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2009-01-06 18:22|| Front Page Top

#19 Your point is well taken Barabra. But I don't like to see muzz adverts on this or any other website. I'd rather ante up to Fred so he doesn't need muzz adverts. Is that wrong?

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 18:23|| 2009-01-06 18:23|| Front Page Top

#20 Rantburg could have a subscriber log in service, where you don't see adverts.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-01-06 18:28|| 2009-01-06 18:28|| Front Page Top

#21 Too bad, MarkZ. The real bummer for surfing idiots like myself is that Maldives are a well known surfing destination. I understand it isn't the highest priority for most people but it sucks. Places like the Maldives and Indonesia are often featured in magazines like SURFER but I myself would also consider them strictly off limits, especially after incidents like the bombing of that nightclub in Bali. Tiger sharks in the water are bad enough, I don't want to have to deal with terrorists when I get out of the water. The Seychelles are still safe, aren't they?

Gandhi should have gone ahead and fought those bastards instead of letting them have their way. It certainly would have been a horrendous war but at least they didn't have nukes like they do now. I understand he believed in peace and love and all that and his methods worked with the Brits. But then, the Brits are civilized and rational people.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-01-06 18:34|| 2009-01-06 18:34|| Front Page Top

#22 Not wrong, Mark - just not very practical.

Perhaps you're approaching this in the wrong way. Every time you see an ad you don't like (for whatever reason), laugh at them for the money they're paying to a website that doesn't support them.

A year or so ago, on Tim Blair's old website, there appeared PETA anti-whatever ads. We laughed at them, ~~disparaging~~ discussing them in the comments. Even Tim mentioned them and made fun of them. This went on for days (or maybe weeks, I'm not sure anymore). And all the while he was getting paid by PETA - who undoubtedly hated everything he and most of his commenters stand for (starting with eating meat). Someone said Tim would get paid more if we clicked on the ads, so we set about to drain the PETA treasury. Dunno if it worked or not, but the ads eventually stopped.

Instead of getting annoyed, try laughing at them and their waste of money. :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-06 18:38|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2009-01-06 18:38|| Front Page Top

#23 Blogads attempts to target the displayed ad to the most relevant audience.

The software does this by looking the content of the page.

It however is full of references to Gaza, India, Pakistan, Islamic, Waziristan etc, words suggesting a certain target audience.

That Rantburg's audience is interested in those words for a particular reason is not apparent to the software. The plain fact is that the vast majority of people looking at web pages with the words being displayed on the Burg now, would probaly be interested in the muslim marriage service.

Posted by john frum 2009-01-06 18:40|| 2009-01-06 18:40|| Front Page Top

#24 Ebbang...Dude...not that long ago the maldivies was populated by hindus and buddhists...comapred to muzz a very tolerant people. F*ck it. Tell your boyz the maldivies is off the rotation. Please.

Barbara...I get your point. I really do. Fred is maybe making jack off the muzz and we ain't buying. I just shake my head...

(BTW Barbara...thought of you Saturday night. Don't know you, but thought of you. I had "kettle pop corn" doused with sugar. Delicious. Thought to myself: the pop corn lady at RB would appreciate this...)

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 18:52|| 2009-01-06 18:52|| Front Page Top

#25 MarkZ - :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-06 20:01|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2009-01-06 20:01|| Front Page Top

#26 Actually, Mark Z, sweet Moli sums it up in her email to you in this sentence,*ahem* and I quote:

They respect all people with thief culture and life style.

Thief culture and lifestyle. Doesn't get more real than that, heh.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2009-01-06 21:19|| 2009-01-06 21:19|| Front Page Top

#27 Ima thinkin the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will be collected in a cave-housed tribal society with inbreeding, little education, females prohibited from venturing beyond their brood-lair-hives, and a profound reverence for those with the forehead-knot. Kinda like today....without deoderant or pomade for old ISI-leftovers

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-01-06 21:53|| 2009-01-06 21:53|| Front Page Top

#28 AP...exactly. It was a freudian slip.

Posted by MarkZ 2009-01-06 21:58|| 2009-01-06 21:58|| Front Page Top

23:24 Mike N.
23:20 Atomic Conspiracy
22:48 JosephMendiola
22:38 JosephMendiola
22:34 Barbara Skolaut
22:31 JosephMendiola
22:28 JosephMendiola
22:27 Scooter McGruder
22:26 tipover
22:20 Old Patriot
22:16 JosephMendiola
22:14 JosephMendiola
22:12 European Conservative
22:09 JosephMendiola
22:07 Zhang Fei
22:01 JosephMendiola
21:59 Injun Angulet2150
21:58 MarkZ
21:57 tu3031
21:53 Frank G
21:52 JosephMendiola
21:50 tu3031
21:47 JosephMendiola
21:44 European Conservative