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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Tenet’s resignation caused by "ancient Albanian curse?"
Rooters’ "Oddly Enough" featurette -- EFL.
While heavyweight pundits ponder the ’real reasons’ behind CIA director George Tenet’s sudden resignation, a Tirana newspaper on Friday offered a typically whimsical explanation; he fell victim to an ancient Albanian curse. The Korrieri daily said the CIA chief’s resignation on Thursday fell a day before he had been due to visit Albania. "If he had not planned a visit to Albania, probably he would have not been struck by the curse of the Pojan jinx," editor Alfred Peza said in his column, citing a supposed evil spirit that jinxed the villagers of Pojan back in the mists of time. Tenet was clearly felled by the jinx, wrote Peza, as were the late Soviet Army Marshal Georgy Zhukov, former West German foreign minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher and others who were demoted or quit after becoming involved with Albania.
Posted by: Mike || 06/08/2004 12:47:47 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Or it could have been :
A black cat.
A lost rabbits foot.
Stepping on lines in the sidewalk.
Something dealing with the number 13.
or
Hillary has been holding seances again, and contacting someone other than Eleanor Roosevelt.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 12:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Why not go hole hog, and say that it was really all because of his dirty, rotten, no-good, pig-stealing great grandfather.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 06/08/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#3  so...... was the 7 years of constantly dropping the ball and NOT getting fired a function of the same "curse"?
Posted by: Frank Martin || 06/08/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||


Bald Is Hair Color in Montana
Bald is a hair color in Montana. Montana’s Web site lists "bald" as an option when applying online for a fishing license. "It’s always been there, but before when you applied for a license at a sporting goods store, the person filling out the license just checked the appropriate box," said Rich Olsen, general manager of the state’s site, Discovering Montana. You also can choose to declare your shiny pate on your driver’s license.
"It’s a newer option, along with other hair colors, such as sandy," said Patrick McJannet, manager of field operations for the state Motor Vehicle Division. The Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks doesn’t keep track of how many people admit to being folliclely challenged, said Neal Whitney, one of the agency’s computer specialist.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 06/08/2004 4:16:20 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If a woman proclaims herself bald, will she be fined for wearing a wig?
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#2  (geocities.com/Hollywood/9990)


If Demi moved to Montana. . .

Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||


FNC: Please, Drop the Chalupa (lighter side)
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 03:01 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (Everwonder.com)


It is not nice to throw the Chalupa. Please put it down on the counter, Senor!

Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Drive the Chalupa into the sea.
Posted by: Shamu || 06/08/2004 18:33 Comments || Top||


D-Day: An Alternate History - in BeebVision (read bottom to top)
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 02:16 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think I just tore something through laughing. Superb!
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/08/2004 9:49 Comments || Top||


Britain
Armed stand-off at nuclear bunker
Armed police have been deployed to a stand-off at a former underground nuclear command bunker in Fife. A man has shut himself in the bunker, which now operates as a museum, after gaining access at about 0130 BST. Police do not know if the man is armed or not, but the museum has a wide range of weapons in its displays - including imitation firearms and knives.
So little that’s actually dangerous then.
Firearms officers are at the scene but have been unable to trace the man because of the complicated layout of the building, which provides plenty of hiding places. They are being backed up by trained negotiators.
"Go ahead - I’ll cover you!"
"With what?!"
"Praise and reassurance."

Chief Superintendent Alan Maich said: "The man broke into the premises and set off the alarm. "At this time his intentions are unclear. Due to the complex layout of the structure and the fact that he will have access to replica firearms and weapons, caution is being executed."
"Through painstaking and tough negotiations on our part, his demands have been reduced from ’kebab and taxi’ down to ’alka seltzer and less noise’."
Chief Supt Maich said the officers at the scene were working "extremely hard". "There is a CCTV system that has been of limited value," he added. "The bunker is two floors below ground level and there is no natural light and there are lots of different compartments."
"We suspect there may be drunks down there who sobered up decades ago."
The former nuclear bunker, which was kept secret for 40 years, is now part of a Cold War museum. There is 24,000 sq ft of accommodation on two levels, accessed by travelling along a 150m tunnel from the farmhouse. The bunker opened in 1952 as a Royal Air Force radar station, but was taken over in the 1960s by the Civil Defence Corps. It was designated as the centre of Scottish government in the event of a nuclear war.
Posted by: Bulldog || 06/08/2004 8:47:24 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  JDAM?
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/08/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#2  They only need to send a K9 Team (The Bulldog?) in! A keen sense of smell and hearing, backed up by an armed team, will make junk of all that hi-tech hardware in about 15 minutes. Geez, how much do these guys pay consultants? This is too easy.
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  What is with the BBC and wildly misleading headlines. Its a museum and there is no indication the man is armed.
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 9:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Hmmmm, never realized the Scottish government needed to survive a nuclear war.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/08/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Another homeless fellow looking for a place to stay. If they don't get him out quickly, he may take up permanent residence and become the responsiblity of the Government. Once a squatter is in place, they're hard to evict.
Posted by: RWV || 06/08/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#6  .com: YES! Send in them dawgs!
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#7  Hmmmm, never realized the Scottish government needed to survive a nuclear war.

The Queen's own Royal Kamikazi Highlanders shall forever be a vital component of the United Kingdom's armed response!
Posted by: Zenster || 06/08/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#8  I have vague recollection of this....
go down to the third level past the main mess to the secondary elevator, it doesn't work but you can slide down the lines to the fourth level the door was already opened shoot the big eye on the left and touch your happy spot.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 18:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Ahhhh! You've broken the oath, Ship!
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 19:10 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Cubans build cannibalised motorbikes
Posted by: tipper || 06/08/2004 10:54 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No mention was made of how people manage to pay for the gas to run these things.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 12:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Do they look like this?
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL SH. Seriously tho, back in the time of special economic hardship the Cuban government imported thousands of Chineese bicycles. 60 lbs. each cast iron and no kidding.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||


Europe
French Royalists Stage Funeral for Relic
SAINT-DENIS, France - French royalists staged a pageant-filled funeral Tuesday for a tiny, rock-hard relic they hailed as the heart cut from Louis XVII, who died at age 10 in a filthy revolutionary prison.
Now we know why the Palestinian aid donations have fallen short.
A hearse brimming with lilies — the symbol of the French crown — delivered a crystal vase containing the heart to the Saint-Denis Basilica. There, it was placed in a royal crypt containing the remains of Louis XVII’s parents, Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI. After two centuries of mystery surrounding the boy’s fate, DNA tests have convinced many historians that the relic passed secretly from person to person was truly the royal heart. A faction of royalists — who want to turn back the clock and restore the monarchy — seized on the DNA tests to press the government to allow the funeral at the Gothic basilica north of Paris, the resting place of France’s kings. Trumpets sounded and incense wafted in the air as a small boy marched up the aisle with the vase draped by a purple veil. Outside, a crowd of royal-watchers followed the Roman Catholic Mass on a huge screen.
"[R]estore the monarchy." Haven’t these morons learned anything from watching the British royals across the channel?
Afterward, cries of "Long live the king!" greeted the Duke of Anjou, Louis-Alphonse de Bourbon, one of several pretenders to the French throne. To this day, the Bourbons dispute the rights of succession with the Orleans dynasty that followed. The Mass recognizing the royal heart attempted to end 209 years of legend and uncertainty about Louis XVII’s death. Yet some skeptics insist the mystery remains unsolved. Historian Philippe Delorme, who wrote a book about Louis XVII and organized the genetic tests, lists the facts of the boy’s brief but grim life as follows: Louis XVII lost his parents to the guillotine in 1793. He was locked in Paris’ Temple prison for three years. The boy was brainwashed, with captors forcing him to sing revolutionary songs and curse his mother’s memory. He also spent months alone in a dark tower, with nobody to wash him or clean his cell.
As a royal he was, of course, unable to wash or clean himself.
At Tuesday’s requiem Mass, Cardinal Jean Honore compared the boy to today’s abused children. "The fragility of a child ... imposes absolute respect in our world today," he said.
And the brittle nature of anachronistic French political machinations imposes absolutely justified ridicule upon these cheese-eating loons.
When Louis XVII died of tuberculosis in 1795, rumors circulated that the royal heir had been smuggled to safety, and a commoner had died in his place. The small body was dumped in a common grave — but first, a doctor secretly carved out the heart, in keeping with a royal tradition. He spirited it away in a handkerchief and kept it as a souvenir, Delorme said. The heart passed from person to person until it was accidently served in a truffled chive omelette returned to France in 1975. The DNA tests were carried out in 2000, establishing a genetic link with a strand of Marie-Antoinette’s hair saved during her girlhood in Austria. But still, some people continue to insist the true heir was one of the many people who came forward in the 19th century — in places as far-flung as the Seychelles and Wisconsin — claiming to be the lost boy.
Wisconsin has lots of cheese, sounds pretty plausible to me.
One was Charles-Guillaume Naundorff, a man with German papers who turned up in the early 19th century. One of his descendants is among those who challenged the Saint-Denis funeral. Some mourners Tuesday said they understood why some people preferred the happier ending to Louis XVII’s story.
Self-delusion is always more palatable. Just look at France’s intention of selling advanced weapons to China.
"But DNA is sufficient proof that this heart is truly that of the right child," said Elisabeth Bramwell, a descendent of a noble French family who wore black lace and a large cross around her neck. While Louis XVII’s story reached its epilogue Tuesday, one scientist who probed the heart for DNA spoke of plans to investigate another historical figure. Jean-Jacques Cassiman of Belgium’s Louvain University told VRT television about his new task: Testing the DNA of Napoleon Bonaparte to make sure the body entombed in Paris is the real thing.
This, despite the fact that Napoleon Bonaparte has been struggling valiantly for nearly two centuries to remain dead.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/08/2004 4:32:20 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think that France's greatest time was when they had a monarchy. Certainly didn't hurt our realtions. That would burn the buns of the leftest crowd in charge now if a Royal stepped forward.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 06/08/2004 16:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Wisconsin has lots of cheese, sounds pretty plausible to me.

The Phrench may have founded Green Bay and lent the place names to numerous spots in the state but please, we'd rather be accused of being Illinios/Flatlander wannabes than phrench acristocratic wannabes
Posted by: cheaderhead || 06/08/2004 17:12 Comments || Top||

#3  but first, a doctor secretly carved out the heart, in keeping with a royal tradition. He spirited it away in a handkerchief and kept it as a souvenir

Cell swarm!
No wonder they have such an affinity for the pali people.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 17:35 Comments || Top||

#4  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 06/09/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Antisemite--

There's just nothing that doesn't remind you of your hatred for Jews, does it?
Posted by: BMN || 06/09/2004 15:08 Comments || Top||

#6  What does Louis xvii have to do with the Palestinians???? Louis XVII was tortured in prison now there's a similarity.(And his parents were killed - again like lots of Palestinian children) Who has such an affinity???
Posted by: Antiwar || 06/09/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||


Extra! Extra! Read All About Evil America!
I just found out about EuroPress Review by Denis Boyles. It’s a regular feature at NRO. Good roundup of the usual anti-Americanism in the press across the pond. Good resource for Rantburgers.
Posted by: growler || 06/08/2004 10:22:00 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For starters, when the appeasers find the Islamist through democratic political means usurp parliaments of Spain, France, Belgium, and Germany. We will really have to get serious about immigration and refugees.

To France, Spain, Belgium, and Germany:
"Your attitude towards the war on terror has been found wanting. Stew in your own juice and, by the way, put on that burka and grow that long beard, lest you get shot. You aren't coming here as a 'refugee'!"
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||


Chirac gives lost D-Day veteran a lift
French President Jacques Chirac gave a D-Day veteran a lift back to Paris in one of his jets after the New Zealander got lost following Sunday’s ceremonies in northern France to honour World War Two Allied troops. Keith Coleman hopped on a coach after the main international ceremony in Arromanches to mark the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings in Normandy, but instead of taking him back to the French capital he ended up at a remote military airfield where all the other veterans got on a plane. "There was this important looking guy wearing gold braid who I told my story to and I guess he must have felt sorry for me, because he made a few phone calls and told me he thought he could get me back to Paris," Coleman, who speaks no French, told the Guardian on Tuesday. The 86-year-old former gunner with the Royal Air Force was whisked by car to another airfield where two jets were waiting. A cavalcade pulled up and the French president got out. "He came over ... I snapped to attention and gave him a little salute ... he put his arm round me," he told the paper. "He said he would be happy for me to travel in one of the aeroplanes and gave instructions that I was to be driven to the door of my hotel."
Let’s please take this as a sign of hope.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/08/2004 3:56:17 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's also take this as a reminder that, big ceremonies aside, every veteran deserves some individual consideration and thanks.
Posted by: Tom || 06/08/2004 8:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Jacques Chirac, consummate politician!
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Chirac is getting desperate.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 18:45 Comments || Top||


Six Aging U.S. Vets Drop Into Normandy
Posted by: Steve White || 06/08/2004 12:54:08 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sixty years after the D-Day invasion, six U.S. veterans in their 70s and 80s parachuted Monday into Normandy in a re-enactment of their bold wartime jump.
Brave then, brave now.
Posted by: RWV || 06/08/2004 13:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Remember? Pres Bush the Elder did a parachute jump for birthday 75, then Barbara said NO MORE!
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Music "legend" calls for death of President Bush
’Bush should have died, not Reagan’: Morrissey
Hat Tip to the Brothers Judd.
"Who the frig is Morrisey? Wasn’t he the orange cat in the old Friskies commercial?"
"No, I think that was ’Garfield.’ ’Morrisey’ was Lenny and Squiggy’s third cousin on ’Laverne & Shirley.’ Either that or he was a utility infielder for the ’93 Mariners."

MANCHESTER music legend Morrissey sparked controversy when he announced Ronald Reagan’s death live on stage during a concert - and then declared he wished it was George Bush who had died instead.
"Oh, that’s it, he’s a ’Manchester music legend.’"
"You mean he was in Melissa Manchester’s backup band?"
"Naah, it means he sold a lot of records once, long ago."
"So he’s like Frankie Yankovic?"
"Only not as good. I bet there’s no Morrisey record half as popular as ’The Chicken Dance.’"

Thousands of fans at Dublin Castle, in Ireland, cheered when the ex-Smiths frontman made the announcement that the former American president, who had battled with Alzheimer’s Disease, had passed away. And an even bigger cheer followed when Morrissey - who is no stranger to controversy - then said he wished it had been the current President, George W Bush, who had died.
"Boy, am I glad my Irish ancestors moved to Pittsburgh in the Potato Famine!"
"Me, too."

The Dublin concert was the latest leg of Morrissey’s European tour, which began at the M.E.N. Arena last month when the ever-popular performer made his first appearance in the city for 12 years. He is due to appear at the Move festival at Old Trafford cricket ground next month.
"Ah, yes, the Old Trafford Cricket Ground--not to be confused with the New Trafford Cricket Ground, where all the new crickets are--where Morrisey will perform to the roar of crickets chirping."
Posted by: Mike || 06/08/2004 6:35:26 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Morrissey (lead singger in 80's indie band, The Smiths - if you aren't being facetious) has just released his first single in ten years. Hence record company induced courting of controversy and generally obnoxious behaviour in public. He is a complete fucking ringpiece - and possesses the kind of face that you just won't want to stop punching should you meet him.
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/08/2004 6:49 Comments || Top||

#2  He's always had something of a way with words.

Yes, I am blind
No, I can’t see
The good things
Just the bad things, oh...

Yes, I am blind
No, I can’t see
There must be something
Horribly wrong with me?
Posted by: Bulldog || 06/08/2004 6:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Morrisey is a whiney asshat who is full of himself. I dated a girl who used to listen to that noise incessantly, what crap - no wonder he says stupid things as well.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 06/08/2004 7:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Or his other touching pieces: Girlfriend In a Coma
or Unhappy Birthday, or.....

whiny loser is right
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 7:44 Comments || Top||

#5  In my youth, I really dug the Smiths, and, personal feelings aside for the moment, they made some really cool music. There, now that I've gotten that out of the way, I can continue.

What a dick.

"I was looking for a job and then I found a job, and heaven knows I'm miserable now" Miserable then, more miserable now. It's one thing to do the "everything sucks" shtick when you're young, but grow the F*** up already. People are not supposed to be depressed. If you are really depressed, get yourself a therapist already, and stop telling all your fans how cool it is to be perpetually down, you ungrateful, forty-something, millionaire.

Go ahead, make another video about you playing with boys wearing school uniforms and pumps, you whiny, freakish tart.

Whatever you do, please avoid soiling the names of good men like our president or our former president, by passing them through your, "careful, you don't know where they've been..." lips. And lastly....

Why have we lost Daniel Pearl, Pat Tillman, Nick Berg, and hundreds of good soldiers, yet this guy festers on?

Sorry gang, but the sign on the door does say RANTburg.
Posted by: Dripping Sarcasm || 06/08/2004 8:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Girlfriend In a Coma or Unhappy Birthday, or..... don't forget Bigmouth Strikes Again...

"Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking when I said I'd like to smash every tooth in your head/
Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking when I said by rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed..."
Posted by: Rafael || 06/08/2004 8:56 Comments || Top||

#7  "Sorrow Will Come In The end" . . . "Girlfriend in a Coma" . . . "Unhappy Birthday" . . . "Viva Hate" . . . "It May All End Tomorrow" . . . For the love of heaven, man, swallow your pride and take the antidepressants! Quick, before you write another song!
Posted by: Mike || 06/08/2004 9:01 Comments || Top||

#8  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Halfass Pete TROLL || 06/08/2004 10:02 Comments || Top||

#9  I think he's one of those poor struggling musicians who can only afford one name.
Posted by: Fred || 06/08/2004 10:10 Comments || Top||

#10  God, how I used to love The Smiths. Then, years later, I listened to them again and saw how all the supposedly morose lyrics were really just laughable. To quote something from another band, The Magnetic Fields, "I could make a career of being blue/I could dress in black and read Camus/
smoke clove cigarettes and drink vermouth/like I was 17/that would be a scream."

I thought about buying Morrissey's new album, then saw that track 1 is titled "America is Not the World." Yeah, and you're not the best thing since sliced bread either, Stephen Patrick Morosey.
Posted by: growler || 06/08/2004 10:15 Comments || Top||

#11  One more sign that the press is on "the other side". If he had waved a US flag and praised the end of Sadaam's rape rooms and genocide and sang "let freedom ring", they would have ignored it.

The only difference between the patriotism of WWII and this war is that the press only covers events like this. Every protest of 3 or more of fat and unhappy grandma's looking for attention and a chance to relive the 60's is put on the front page as a major event and expressed as "the American sentiment". Every rally with hundreds or thousands waving flags and well-wishing our soldiers is ignored.

This WILL help his record sales and it WILL help "the other side". And it's because the boardrooms in the big media circles make it so. If we don't do something to stop the undermining of our troops by the media, we can just go ahead and call this VietNam II.
Posted by: B || 06/08/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||

#12  I was a Morrisey and The Smiths fan, and still enjoy listening to their music. As with most musicians and actors/actresses, if I pay attention to their politics, I'd never listen to or watch anything. Laura Ingraham said it best -- "Shut Up and Sing."

PS - How's this for a downbeat line? "Come Armageddon, come Armageddon come . . . come, come nuclear war." from "Everyday is Like Sunday."
Posted by: Tibor || 06/08/2004 11:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Free speech... OK I am for that... no censorship... sign me up... "I am an artist and I need my space"... Fine, just so long as its not in my livingroom.
But the minute I see this nitwit coming to America to "pick up a USA check", ala Alanis Buttface and skanky "America is no longer safe" Madonna, it is time to call the little shit the capitalist lackey that he most assuredly is.
Go sell your art in Cuba, you wanker!
Posted by: Capsu78 || 06/08/2004 12:02 Comments || Top||

#14  Im surprised the could understand anything he said, considering he probably had another mans johnson in his mouth at the time.......
Posted by: Anonymous5165 || 06/08/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#15  Eurotrash singing to the Europtrash choir market.

We can be amused at US singers like the trailer-trash Dixie Twits make insulting personal remarks, and watching once promising careers go down the toilet.

Simply making political remarks can be ignored as stupidity, but when it gets personal, those folks are best left ignored, and to stew in their dwindling audiences, eh, Natalie Maines?
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 12:06 Comments || Top||

#16  legend is a little of an exaggeration...you really only hear the guy when radio stations do a flashback to the 80's...cannot remember a concert he had in los angeles for some time......

and he is kinda gay...
Posted by: Dan || 06/08/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#17  "A legend in his own mind."
Posted by: mojo || 06/08/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#18  Old Trafford—isn't that where Arsenal plays? We need an arsenal; we do not need Morrisey.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 06/08/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||

#19  Manchester United plays at Old Trafford. Perhaps there's a cricket grounds and a football pitch both?

Arsenal play at Highbury.
Posted by: eLarson || 06/08/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#20  Manchester United play at Old Trafford/ Arsenal play at Highbury. Morrissey just 'plays' with himself.
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/08/2004 14:09 Comments || Top||

#21  Forget Morrissey. Anyone notice that the Dubliners cheered Reagan's death?

Nice.
Posted by: someone || 06/08/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#22  Frankly Mr. Shankley.... STFU
Posted by: Secret Master || 06/08/2004 15:11 Comments || Top||

#23  Hey, guys, I'm human and I need to be loved just like everybody else does!
Posted by: Morrissey || 06/08/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#24  Someone: Since I'm half-Irish by descent, I did particularly notice that and it did particularly piss me off.
Posted by: Matt || 06/08/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#25  alot of us are 1/2 irish..i am...what pissed me off was the fact they cheered the death of reagan....how could someone's post overshawdow that bullshit?? so what are heritage is irish--i am 100% red blooded american and damn proud of that! scew them ole irish if they have no respect...

just heard that idiot's new single on the local alt radio station in los angeles (KROQ) --and just changed my radio to the classic rock station!
Posted by: Dan || 06/08/2004 15:36 Comments || Top||

#26  Yeah but consider who goes to a Morrissey concert.

what pissed me off was the fact they cheered the death of reagan

There were other places in Europe that cheered Reagan's death. It's a good thing you guys can't read Polish.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/08/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||

#27  Who?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 16:55 Comments || Top||

#28  Still like the Smiths. As for the commentary, well... this is a guy who says he doesn't like sex -- of any kind. None. So, right about there I'd say his opinion is not really worth the oxygen spent to share it.
Posted by: BH || 06/08/2004 17:36 Comments || Top||

#29  Like everything else, looks like the standards for "legend" have dropped. Drastically.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/08/2004 20:14 Comments || Top||

#30  Comments like Morrissey’s make me smile. Observations such as Danny Glover’s (“"We all know Reagan's legacy, from the Iran-Contra affair to the funding of the Nicaraguan military …”) cause me to chuckle. I giggle uncontrollably when the Democratic Underclass Underground dumps on Ronald Reagan. I laugh out loud when Ted Rall says that President Reagan “should be crispy brown by now.”

I celebrate their First Amendment freedoms. I encourage them to continue, and for the media to report their opinions in full.

Because each time one of these malicious little jerk-offs opens his yap, each time yet another mental midget gives in to his uncontrollable urge to malign one of America’s greatest presidents, each time another sad little feeb goes into full-scale Tourette Syndrome mode and spouts this vile gibberish, Kerry loses another 10,000 votes.
Posted by: Darth VAda || 06/08/2004 20:53 Comments || Top||

#31  Legend??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 06/08/2004 10:02 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Clinton Feelings Hurt....Baaaaaaw
MATT DRUDGE :
CLINTON DISAPPOINTMENT: LEFT OFF FUNERAL SPEAKERS LIST
Former President Bill Clinton has privately expressed anger he has apparently been left off the speakers list of Friday’s Reagan State Funeral, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. "President Clinton really held out all hope the funeral would be a nonpartisan event, like Nixon’s was," a top Clinton source said on Tuesday morning. "He’s angry and disappointed neither he nor President Carter have been asked to speak, as of yet."
Fox sez Pelosi popped a tampon, too...
The top source says Clinton has been critical that both Bush presidents will address the crowd gathered at National Cathedral. Nixon’s vice president Gerald Ford did not speak at Nixon’s funeral. Clinton’s inner circle is convinced Nancy Reagan has personally shut out Clinton from any high-profile participation. "It is a state funeral, using tax dollars," the top Clinton insider explained.
"So what the hell does her opinion matter? Who's she think she is?"
Former President George H.W. Bush, former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney will join President Bush in eulogizing Ronald Reagan, Reagan’s office announced. Presiding over the service will be former Sen. John Danforth of Missouri, who is an ordained Episcopal priest. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor and the Rabbi Harold Kusher will give readings, while Irish tenor Ronan Tynan will sing.
Maybe Bill could accompany him on the saxophone?
The eulogy is being prepared by President Bush’s chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson, who also wrote the president’s moving speech for a memorial service in the same cathedral after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
Developing...
Bubba doesn’t realize the eulogizers; Bushs 41&43, Thatcher, and Mulrooney have a connection. Bush 43; the current president, Bush 41; RR’s Veep, and Mulrooney and Thatcher; fellow leaders of RR’s time and fellow philosophical mates.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 3:31:02 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Given their 'performance' at the Wellstone Rally/Hatefest/Memorial I think it's prudent NOT to have Dimmy or Billy Bob speak at Reagan's state funeral. Good call Nancy!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 06/08/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Clinton Feelings Hurt

What happened to cause this? Did his latest girlfriend forget to remove her dentures again?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/08/2004 15:47 Comments || Top||

#3  It is a terrible afront to one's ego to be denied a highly public platform on which to talk about oneself... and, you know, how one felt about the deceased and all that.
Posted by: eLarson || 06/08/2004 15:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Even on this occasion the rapist-in-chief can only think: "It's all about ME!"
Posted by: someone || 06/08/2004 15:54 Comments || Top||

#5  It's amazing how Bubba has no qualms about proving that he has no shame whatsoever.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Clinton and Reagan are connected in that they both served as president in the same century and both their names end with an "N." What personal experience would Clinton draw on to speak about Reagan?
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Friggin' Demoncrats. They've spent the last twenty years demonizing Reagan and everything he stood for, and leading the way was Jimmuh and HillBillary - and they actually expected to be included? Asshats! Sarge is right, they had their chance at the Wellstone memorial and they turned it into an incontinent dog and monkey rodeo. Time for all the demoncrats to sit down and STFU and watch how people who respect the office of the POTUS comport themselves.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 06/08/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Look for Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Daschle, et. al. to demand equal time for a Democratic response, even if they have to kill somebody (Teddy Kennedy?)
Posted by: RWV || 06/08/2004 16:15 Comments || Top||

#9  RWV, we can only hope.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 06/08/2004 16:20 Comments || Top||

#10  "It is a state funeral, using tax dollars," the top Clinton insider explained.


"So," he continued, "we're entitled to suck off the teat of state money, too. I mean, we practically invented the practice! And, besides, getting this story out lets us spin the no-doubt tasteful ceremony the administration is planning as the Republican version of the Wellstone rally."
Posted by: Anonymous5166 || 06/08/2004 16:22 Comments || Top||

#11  This funeral is about President Reagan and to celebrate his life. It is not about Clinton. He wore out his welcome. He can go to Dan or Peter et al and seethe to his hearts content. I'm sure that he can go to the funeral, Nancy et al just do not want to hear him turn it into something other than a funeral and a celebration of life.
Posted by: Alaska Paul in Chefornak || 06/08/2004 16:32 Comments || Top||

#12  can you say ATTENTION WHORE!
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 06/08/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#13  He's just pissed he won't have the opportunity to say:

"As I noted in my soon-to-be-released book, I have many strong feelings about President..."
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#14  Clintoon proves yet again - for those comatose folks who may have missed it - that he is a clueless, self-centered, it's-all-about-me-me-me BUFFOON.

What a loser. STFU.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#15  Oh, yeah - and Billy, this may come as a total shock to you, but YOU'RE NO LONGER IN CHARGE! (Gott sei dank!) Your opinion means absolutely zero.

And I hope Nancy Reagan did exclude you and Jimmuh on purpose, because neither of you is worthy of shining Reagan's shoes - even with your tongues.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 16:51 Comments || Top||

#16  Clintoon's a psychopath who's not only shameless, but completely clueless when it comes to what's appropriate and what is appropriate for a sitting or an ex (impeached) President.
He's so crazy that he probably thinks that not only should he be speaking at Reagan's funeral, but that when he dies (When, Lord, when?), his funeral will be as big or bigger.
I kept thinking yesterday as I watched the Reagan memorial coverage what would the media find to say about Bubba and his "legacy" that won't be rated X or that would fill even an afternoon about what he did as Prez that was good for this country and that helped the American people?
All I can come up with is that Billy Boy regulated the size of the holes in Swiss cheese and required all Americans to have front-loading washing machines, staged a major federal land grab, and shipped all manufacturing to Chinese prison labor so that those goods could be sold at Walmart.
And those are the good things...!
Posted by: Jen || 06/08/2004 16:59 Comments || Top||

#17  "President Clinton really held out all hope the funeral would be a nonpartisan event, like Nixon’s was."

And simply because the Big He wasn't invited to speak, that somehow makes Reagan's funeral "partisan"? I see.

"He’s angry and disappointed neither he nor President Carter have been asked to speak, as of yet."

Poor Bubba- no longer in the spotlight.

Am I the only one who's wondering if Bill Clinton's a little bit worried that when the time comes for him to go into the grave, no one will even remember that he had been President?

To define Bill Clinton's term in office in toto, one needs but a single word: "inconsequential."
Posted by: Dave D. || 06/08/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#18  I'm disappointed. We'd get to see him bite his lip, and look sincere again.
Posted by: Jake || 06/08/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#19  Dave D - how about Unpresidential?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#20  If I hear Bubba say , "That dog won't hunt. . .", again, I think I may throw something. Unfortunately this would make me sympathetic with RodHam. Yeech.

The Reagans are smart in this decision.
No Bubba No Way!
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 17:44 Comments || Top||

#21  Please Nancy tell bubba maybe, not no, get this thing to a low simmer then say hell no because of security reasons 11:00 pm Thursday.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 18:03 Comments || Top||

#22  There used to be a certain decorum among ex-Presidents. They did not publicly criticize those that followed. They advised (in a non-partisan manner) when asked and, otherwise, STFU. Even their memoirs would be carefully stripped of partisan and personal criticisms.

The point was simply doing what's best for America. It was noblesse oblige.

If I'm not mistaken, the unraveling of this honorable tradition came after Nixon's thoroughly disgraceful departure. Seems all bets were off after that. But I cannot recall a single episode where Reagan or Bush41 was ever publicly disrespectful or openly hostile to Clinton or Carter. They kept the bargain.

Carter seems to have kept it until Bush43, then lost his fucking mind.

Clinton never even hesitated - he's lied and farted at the American dining table every chance he has gotten. A true media whore - and unworthy of any respect.

This is sad and a palpable lowering of the bar - destruction of an honorable and prudent tradition - now reduced to Et moi? Qu'avez-vous fait pour moi récemment?.
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 18:24 Comments || Top||

#23  I am suprised that Hillary isn't demanding to speak. Can you imagine that witch having her say about Reagan? shudder.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/08/2004 18:28 Comments || Top||

#24  Little Nancy is 100x tougher than Shrillary. She's in control of this - and there will need to be a major PR effort (read: kissing her ass like the Clintons' lives depend on it) to get her acquiescence / approval. They don't have the class to pull it off.

It's Nancy's call and it's gotta gall!
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#25  "It is a state funeral, using tax dollars," the top Clinton insider explained

Hildabeast and Bubba have cognitive dissonance. They're used to tax dollars being used for their own aggrandizement, not to honor someone else
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 19:09 Comments || Top||

#26  Neither klinton has any business even speaking the name of Ronald Reagan. They should be kept as far away as possible from our beloved ex-President's funeral. bill klinton and his asswipe butch wife can go straight to HELL, as far as I'm concerned. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 06/08/2004 20:20 Comments || Top||

#27  Let him talk. He could do comparisons.
Like:
REAGAN: Suit coat always on in Oval Office.
CLINTON: Pants usually off in Oval Office.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/08/2004 20:28 Comments || Top||


Gore's Venting Stirs Up Senate Race in Florida
I love it when they eat their own, EFL:
No one who follows South Florida's tangled politics expected Al Gore to endorse Alex Penelas, the mayor of Miami-Dade County and one of four Florida Democrats running for the Senate. But when Mr. Gore attacked the mayor last weekend as "the single most treacherous and dishonest person I dealt with" in the 2000 presidential campaign, even the most blasé politicos gasped.
And AlGore knows dishonest
Mr. Gore was responding to an inquiry by The Miami Herald about Mr. Penelas's role in the election, in which Mr. Gore, then the vice president, lost to George W. Bush in Florida by just 537 votes.
Still touchy about Florida, Al?
His comments, made through a spokesman, drew national attention to a Senate race that has been little followed outside the state. Since an article about Mr. Gore's statement appeared in The Herald on Sunday, Democratic leaders here, including Senator Bob Graham and Representative Kendrick B. Meek, have leapt to Mr. Penelas's defense, while his rivals have scrambled to capitalize on Mr. Gore's words. Mr. Gore's animus toward Mr. Penelas is rooted in the showdown around Elián González, the 5-year-old Cuban boy who was found clinging to an inner tube off Florida's coast on Thanksgiving Day 1999. Over the furious objections of Miami's large Cuban community, the Clinton administration seized Elián from his relatives here and returned him to Cuba to live with his father, setting off some of the fiercest protests this city has seen. Many Cuban-Americans took out their anger on Mr. Gore, vowing not to support him in the presidential race and creating a sticky situation for Mr. Penelas, a Cuban-American reluctant to alienate the exile community.
He knows his base
Mr. Penelas sounded upbeat in a telephone interview Monday, saying that Mr. Gore's comments had given him a boost. He said he had spent much of the day on the phone with donors who were newly eager to contribute to his campaign. "A lot of people think Al Gore has gone over the top," he said. "He thinks he is doing a favor to Peter Deutsch, but, quite frankly, the last 48 hours have turned out to be a rally for Alex Penelas. This has been great; I think it's been very positive."
It's the AlGore Law, if he's for something, it's sure to die. Seems like the reverse is true also.
I'm going to laugh my ass off if the Dems move all their heavy lawyerly artillery into Florida and then they lose the election in New Mexico or Idaho or Wisconsin. And they talk about generals fighting the last war...?
Posted by: Steve || 06/08/2004 12:08:31 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I worry about Tipper. She's not safe living with a madman
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL Frank maybe she need to share some meds with Al.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 06/08/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||

#3  the Miami Herald has a different story than the NY Times

in their version it is US Rep Peter Deutsch who is the attack hound extraordinaire (in this version Al's attack statement is just a background fact)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/6610977.htm?1c
Posted by: mhw || 06/08/2004 13:21 Comments || Top||

#4  oops just realized that Miami Herald article was from 2003 (however, that might be what the nytimes was talking about).
Posted by: mhw || 06/08/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Mr. Gore's animus toward Mr. Penelas is rooted in the showdown around Elián González

So, Gore's a bit tiffed that people resisted sending a child back to slavery?

Democrats really need to get some consistency on the whole "Communism is bad" thing. They have a damned hard time keeping that in their heads -- almost as if they didn't believe it, but mouth it occasionally to make people think they do.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 06/08/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||


Union protests could delay construction at DNC site
Bwahahahaha!
BOSTON (AP) -- Hundreds of union members picketed outside the site of the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday in a show of solidarity with city police that could delay preparations for the political gathering. Union firefighters, electricians and other trade workers joined police officers picketing over a long-simmering dispute with Mayor Thomas Menino. The 1,400-member police union has been without a contract for two years. Talks broke down on Monday, with each side blaming the other for the impasse. The beginning of round-the-clock picketing coincided with the start of a $14 million construction project to prepare the FleetCenter, a sports arena, for the Democratic National Convention on July 26-29. Telecommunications workers have already said they won't cross police pickets to install thousands of miles of telephone and data lines.
"Cross a police picket line? Are you nuts? I gotta drive in this city!"
Pickets gathered at the city's North Station commuter site, which shares a building with the FleetCenter. Union members handed out leaflets to hundreds of commuters on their way to work. Some held signs reading, "Friends Don't Let Friends Cross Picket Lines." The Greater Boston Labor Council on Monday rejected a project labor agreement that promised no union strikes if convention organizers used only unionized labor on construction projects at the FleetCenter. Organizers could be forced to hire nonunion workers, an unthinkable prospect for a Democratic Party built on a foundation of organized labor.
Bwahahahaha!
Patrolmen's union president Thomas Nee said he was honored by the vote of the labor council, which represents 90,000 workers in 93 unions in the area. "I think the message that's been sent is that nobody owns organized labor in the city of Boston," Nee said. A spokeswoman for convention organizers declined to comment. Seth Gitell, a spokesman for Menino, had no immediate comment. Richard Rogers, head of the labor council, said the vote showed area unions are behind the police. "If I'm head of the DNC, if I'm Terry McAuliffe, I'm thinking maybe it's time to get involved and push this process along," Rogers said of the city-police dispute. "In my mind, it sends a very strong message to the mayor that he needs to get back to the table and resolve this."
Posted by: Steve || 06/08/2004 11:37:40 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The irony here is simply staggering.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/08/2004 12:02 Comments || Top||

#2  This will all blow over when Teddy drives into town and buys the union a couple of rounds of drinks.
Posted by: Capsu78 || 06/08/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#3  This is weirdly funny. I'll be laughing the rest of the day.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 06/08/2004 12:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Hold the convention telecommute style. Each delegation meets in an school auditorium in the state capital of the state they are from.

No more union problem. Except the hotels and other businesses in Boston are now pissed at the unions for causing the convention to be screwed up.

Union Boss Thomas Nees famous last words:
"I think the message that's been sent is that nobody owns organized labor in the city of Boston," (We'll break the kneecaps of anyone who defies us, especially a politician)
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 12:48 Comments || Top||

#5  I smell a conspiracy here.:) Skeery didn't have to delay accepting the nomination. The unions in his hometown are buying time for him.
Posted by: GK || 06/08/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#6  GK - You may be onto something. But if the rat starts to smell, the strike will be settled quickly.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Wow. *snicker* The Donk situation parallels the jihadis so closely: they keep up the pace of remarkably stupid and self-defeating acts.

I'm not complaining, y'understand!
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 17:20 Comments || Top||

#8  GK - the cancellations of hotel rooms, restaraunts empty, etc. would be a financial disaster for Boston - not gonna happen. There's already talk of a $30 Million loss in income in the city due to gridlock downtown, lost business, etc....pass the popcorn?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 17:27 Comments || Top||

#9  "I think the message that's been sent is that nobody owns organized labor in the city of Boston,"

Not today, anyways. But there's always tomorrow. And we are always for sale.
Enjoy the popcorn, Frank. Me and Raj will wave to you from the gridlock.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/08/2004 20:36 Comments || Top||

#10  TU - for schadenfreude, I've got a consultant buddy here in San Diego whose wife's brother is getting married that week in downtown Boston. He's gotta fly in from beautiful San Diego to Boston/J F'n Kerry Nomination gridlock..... take heart, others have it worse....
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 20:46 Comments || Top||

#11  "If I'm head of the DNC, if I'm Terry McAuliffe, I'm thinking maybe it's time to get involved and push this process along," Rogers said of the city-police dispute.

If I'm Terry McAuliffe, I'm thinking maybe this @#$%!!! convention should've been held Toronto...
Posted by: Pappy || 06/08/2004 22:51 Comments || Top||


One Last Look
The former First Lady believes her long-suffering husband recognized her when he stared into her eyes for an instant before taking his last breath, his daughter Patti Davis writes. "It was the greatest gift he could have given me," the former First Lady told her family.

Sobbing, shaking and knowing death was imminent, she held her husband’s hand about 1 p.m. Saturday as he inhaled deeply and opened his eyes for the first time in five days. While most thought Alzheimer’s disease had robbed former President Reagan of all his memory, the last look he gave his wife was one of deep acknowledgment, Davis writes for People magazine in its upcoming edition. "At the last moment when his breathing told us this was it, he opened his eyes and looked straight at my mother. Eyes that had not opened for days did, and they weren’t chalky or vague," Davis recalls. "They were clear and blue and full of life. If a death can be lovely, his was."

Davis and her brother Ron were standing next to their father’s bed when the astonishing interchange between their parents took place. "In his last moment he taught me that there is nothing stronger than love between two people, two souls," Davis writes. "It was the last thing he could do to show my mother how entwined their souls are and it was everything."
This is an affirmation of life, and life afterwards. When my sister died of cancer, she had been in acoma a couple of days, and came to for an instant and she and my brother-in-law had a moment.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 11:05:42 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When the death watch for my sister-in-law was culminating, my niece and nephew climbed on the bed with her, crying and just trying to be close. My sister-in-law was making horrible noises as she struggled. Just as we thought she was going, she opened her eyes and said, "hhhhhhhhhhhhheh, get the hell off me. I can't breath." Everyone sobered up and backed off. She passed quietly a few days later.
Posted by: Zpaz || 06/08/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#2  I was tearing up until I read Zpaz's story. Lol!
Posted by: someone || 06/08/2004 20:40 Comments || Top||

#3  I nominate that for a classic! LOL!
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 20:47 Comments || Top||


Reagan the new face of the $10 bill?
Posted by: GP || 06/08/2004 10:08 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I like the idea of putting Reagan on half of the dimes. I think Nancy Reagan was embarassed that they were going to remove FDR entirely, but putting him on half of the dimes would be a nice compromise, and I think that the Reagan family might go along with that . Changing the paper money doesn't work for me personally, but it may just be me. Since Rohrabacher wants him on the $20, and he is my congerssman, I am going to EMial him with the 1/2-1/2 dime alternative.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 10:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Why not a new silver coin containing real silver (just like the ones we had when Reagan was a boy)? Probably have to make it a $5 or $10 coin to have any real size to it. A new $1 or $2 coin with Reagan on it might have better public acceptance than the last two PC attempts at a new dollar coin {Susan B. Anthony and "Golden" (Sacagawea) dollar}
Posted by: RWV || 06/08/2004 13:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Susan B Anthony Dollar, aka the Scowl Dollar.

Ladies : Do you want money with an angry looking person, male or female? Suzy-Bees were doomed from the start. Another legacy from Jimmy Crack-Peanuts.

Sacajawea was a different matter. a phony "gold" $1 coin was never going to be accepted unless you removed all the paper dollars. I personally had no problem with the Sacajaweas. She at least had a pleasant expression. The coin wasn't ugly, but it was just odd with the gold color. Perhaps the difference between Bubba Clinton and Jimmy Crack-Peanuts, is expressed in the design of the two coins. Ugly vs wierd.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Ummagod. What if they start asking for Clinton's face on a coin! There is no way in hell I am going to let that man in my pants! You can take that to the bank.
Posted by: Zpaz || 06/08/2004 13:45 Comments || Top||

#5  A $1 coin with Reegan's likeness on it would be an idea. We really, really need to get away from $1 bills. (I got spoiled in Australia by $1 and $2 coins...hehe)
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 14:30 Comments || Top||

#6  A $6 bill would be perfect. Everytime I go to Subway, it's $5.89 or something. And while we're at it, can we do away with pennies? Would it really hurt? We've been rounding to the hundreths digit for way too long now. It's time for tenths (or twentieths).
Posted by: BigMutha || 06/08/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#7  dollar coins wuld be a problem at titty bar.
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/08/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#8  That's our mucky! Always the pragmatist.

I think most women prefer bills to dollar coins. Most women don't carry their money in their pocket (though I do); they carry it in a billfold, which really isn't designed to hold $7 or $8 in $1 coins, plus the other coins one normally carries.

If they're going to make a new $1 coin, make it the SIZE of a $1 coin, not the size of a quarter. We used to have $1 coins (Vegas may still use them in slots, I'm not sure) and people actually used them, but they were larger than quarters so it was easy to tell the difference.

The other thing to consider in getting rid of $1 bills is the cost of converting all those vending machines that take dollar bills & give change (most of the time, anyway).
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Put him on the $20. Andrew Jackson has got to be the worst human being we have on any of our currency. Get someone with actual talent to redesign while you're at it - the current bill is simply hideous.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 06/08/2004 18:28 Comments || Top||

#10  Get rid of that commie Jeffeson. Put Reagan on the 5 cent piece. Jefferson still got the nutty horserace piece of tender.

Reagan on the obverse broken hammer and sickle on the reverse.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 18:51 Comments || Top||

#11  Andrew Jackson was what? Suh, I call you out. I demand satisfaction. Swords or pistols? I know he was a great American because Johhny Horton told me so:

Well in 1814 we took a little trip.
Along with Col. Jackson down the mighty Mississip'.
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
and we beat the bloody British at a town called New Orleans.

(Pardon my French Shep, Bulldog.)
Posted by: Zpaz || 06/08/2004 19:11 Comments || Top||

#12  jackson was jackass who is kill alot of native american. he not worthy even being on food stamp.
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/08/2004 19:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Just what in the HELL is a native American? There is no such thing!!!
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 06/08/2004 20:06 Comments || Top||

#14  dollar coins wuld be a problem at titty bar.

Don't be cheap then, and use a five. If you have to use a dollar coin, drop it into their bra cup. After all, it is a titty bar, right?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 20:09 Comments || Top||

#15  b-a-r im not know what kind titty bar you are go to but if they wearing bra cup you just got jypt.

ok pete if it making you feel beter lets say indian. :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/08/2004 20:14 Comments || Top||

#16  If every U.S. president were alive today and could run simultaneously for the office again, I would vote for Jackson before all others. No one, but no one would defend this country more vigorously and when needs be savagely. Everything I ever needed to know about Andrew Jackson's character can be summed up by the fact that while a teenage prisoner of war during the revolution, he once was savagely beaten because he refused to clean the shoes of an enemy officer. He carried the scars his entire life. His nuts and attitude are fully in keeping with the traditions of the Rantburg.
Posted by: Zpaz || 06/08/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||

#17  Just what in the HELL is a native American? There is no such thing!!!

It's what those people are called whose ancestors' knowledge of America preceded the 15th century by a couple millenia, I believe.

Less ambiguous than "Indian" and more accurate than "redskin". But if you've a better suggestion, feel free to share. :-)
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 06/08/2004 21:05 Comments || Top||

#18  Zpaz -
Amen. If ol' Andy were President for 9/11, we'd have taken out the Taliban by way of Syria, Iraq, and Iran. Of course, we probably would have taken a completely gratuitous shot at "perfidious Albion" just for old times sake, but, hey, nobody's perfect.
Posted by: Darth VAda || 06/08/2004 21:13 Comments || Top||

#19  President Reagan belongs on a U.S. coin or bill Americans shall use on a daily basis.

Not some odd ball coin or $10.000 bill.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 06/08/2004 21:19 Comments || Top||

#20  England gave us our language and political beliefs. Europe gave us its people. George Washington held us together and gave us our political start. Jefferson and Madison gave us our political voice. But all those things do not a nation make. It ultimately is the barrel of a gun that establishes sovereignty. If you can not defend yourself, you are not a nation - you are a doormat with pretensions. Andrew Jackson led us in the Battle of New Orleans. That battle put every country of the world on notice, especially the country that mattered most, perfidious albion, that we were a nation that could defeat the world superpower on our turf - that, unlike the ambiguous Revolutionary War victory, we did not need France or any European power for survival. After New Orleans, we were at last a sovereign nation that, until the advent of nuclear weapons, could not be destroyed from without, only from within.
Posted by: Zpaz || 06/08/2004 22:11 Comments || Top||

#21  #17 assis katshit, do you even know what the word "native" means? Methinks not. There are books available to most people, called DICTIONARIES. Look it up.....here, I'll make it easy for you. Here's how you spell it: N A T I V E. In case you have a problem with the alphabet.... N comes right after M, and right before O. That should narrow your search somewhat. Study hard.....quiz tomorrow.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 06/08/2004 22:15 Comments || Top||

#22 
Just what in the HELL is a native American? There is no such thing
Well, Pete, I was born in Baltimore, Maryland, USA, so that would make me a native American. I think there are a few more around the country. I also know people who immigrated here - they would be naturalized Americans.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/09/2004 0:06 Comments || Top||

#23  Andrew Jackson had no more respect for the Constitution than I do for the roll of toilet paper I just finished using. His policy towards the Civilized Tribes was nothing more than ethnic cleansing. He was central in the push of the slave aristocracy, and the abominable, ecologically disastrous economy it fostered, into the old Spanish lands in Florida and the old Southwest. He managed to start a major economic depression as a part of his personal vendetta with the president of the US Bank. He was a murderer, a genocide, a slaver, and a demagogue. It's a testament to the strength of the Republic that it survived him intact.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 06/09/2004 7:55 Comments || Top||


Perle recounts the 1986 Iceland summit.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 02:10 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Excellent article! Some men's achievements will live through the ages and Ronald Reagan is one of them.
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#2  While commenting on this, I realized who Reagan was betting on.

Damn. I had NO idea...
Posted by: Ptah || 06/08/2004 14:47 Comments || Top||

#3 
(Univ of Texas)
Reagan and Gorbachev
Reykjavik 1986
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 16:42 Comments || Top||

#4  I like this paragraph:

As happened often, the president's advisers were divided. Reagan asked his chief of staff, who was among those urging him to accept the Soviet proposal. "If we say 'Yes', won't it be just so we can leave here with an agreement?" It was a rhetorical question. The President had made the most consequential decision of his political life.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||


Hamid Karzai among those to attend Reagan funeral
Posted by: someone || 06/08/2004 02:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lots of folks will be there. But it is just as well as the toad states of Cuba, Lybia, and North Korea have no representation.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 13:40 Comments || Top||

#2  The Canadian prime minister, Paul Martin, said yesterday the head of state, Governor General Adrienne Clarkson, would represent the country at the funeral. Mr. Martin will head home, where he is campaigning ahead of this month’s national elections. A spokesman for the prime minister said he will have several occasions during the G-8 summit to meet with President Bush and “to express his condolences and those of the Canadian people.”

Just plain tacky.
Posted by: RWV || 06/08/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Can you imagine the security nightmare this funeral will be?

Think I'll watch it on TV.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||


WP reporter’s catty skewering of SKerry
I like the style section of the Washington Post best when it is catty and snide. This reporter has a number of little digs on Kerry. EFL
...
He [Kerry] stood in the aisle of the press section, placed his hands atop two seats and talked about how he liked the new World War II Memorial in Washington. After a few minutes, he walked a few rows forward and reasserted this for those who didn’t hear him the first time.

.....The next hour and a half featured a panel of experts in a dire discussion of the unthinkable, a fact that Kerry acknowledged. "This is a daunting topic, I know," he said. "And some people will just turn off." Or just leave, which several people do at various points during the program. ...

Kerry invited questions from what was left of the audience...-- the first question involved a matter of even greater concern. Senator, would you consider picking John McCain as your running mate?

...He said what he always says: He is committed to a "private, personal" process in picking his running mate. "I hope you will take that in the spirit that it’s meant," Kerry told the man. It’s not clear what that spirit is other than evasion. "Thank you, though," Kerry added. "I appreciate the question. Good try."
Posted by: mhw || 06/08/2004 8:31:44 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I hope you will take that in the spirit that it’s meant," John Fking Kerry told the man.

Posted by: Johnnie Bartlette || 06/08/2004 8:50 Comments || Top||

#2  He is committed to a "private, personal" process in picking his running mate.

Poor guy. if his constant public flip-flopping, and meandering reason are any indication, the "private, personal" debates going on in his head must be a horror show.
Posted by: Dripping Sarcasm || 06/08/2004 9:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Dripping and Johnnie
I recall an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000 in which a character on the film said something and one of the robots said, "I hope you took that comment as sarcasm because that's how I intended it".
Posted by: mhw || 06/08/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#4  He is committed to a "private, personal" process in picking his running mate.

It wouldn't involve Astro-Glide, would it?
Posted by: eLarson || 06/08/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#5  He is committed to a "private, personal" process in picking his running mate.

He considered consulting his fellow Democrat senators for suggestions on how to find an experienced medium to hold a seance. He remembered one of his colleagues had hired someone to contact Eleanor Roosevelt. . . .
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 13:45 Comments || Top||


Our Look Back at Normandy
Posted by: tipper || 06/08/2004 05:32 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nice satire, though I thought Chomsky's "quote" was a little too coherent to be realistic and Howard Dean's a little sophomoric; I'd expected a little better from VDH. The NYT "editorial" was spot on, in my opinion, as were most of the rest. Check it out.
Posted by: eLarson || 06/08/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||


Kerry on Reagan
* In November 2002, U.S. News & World Report carried this Kerry assessment of Reagan’s presidency: "You roll out the president one time a day. One exposure to all of you [the media]. No big in-depth inquiries. Put him in his brown jacket and his blue jeans, put him on a ranch, let him cock his head, give you a smile, and it looks like America’s OK."

He repeated the same sentiments in an interview with Vogue last year, this time drawing a parallel to Bush: ’’They have managed him the same way they managed Ronald Reagan," Kerry contended. ’’They send him out to the press for one event a day. They put him in a brown jacket and jeans and get him to move some hay or drive a truck, and all of a sudden, he’s the Marlboro Man."

* That’s not the only time Kerry has offered unflattering Bush-Reagan comparisons. In an interview last September with the Manchester Union-Leader, Kerry said, "We’ve seen governors come to Washington, . . . and they don’t have the experience in foreign policy, and they get in trouble pretty fast. Look at Ronald Reagan. Look at Jimmy Carter and, now, obviously, George Bush."

* In 1992 Kerry said, "Ronald Reagan certainly was never in combat. I mean, many of his movies depicted him there. And he may have believed he was, but he never was. And the fact is that he sent Americans off to die."

* After his first major political battle in the Senate over Reagan’s support for the Nicaraguan contras in 1985, Kerry said "I think it was a silly and rather immature approach," of Reagan’s dismissal of a "peace offer" from Sandinista junta leader Daniel Ortega

* Last year Kerry said to the Democratic National Committee: "I’m proud that I stood against Ronald Reagan, not with him, when his intelligence agencies were abusing the Constitution of the United States and when he was running an illegal war in Central America."

In fact, Kerry has spoken at great length about the Reagan administration’s "abuse of the Constitution" and "totalitarian" inclinations: "They were willing to literally put the Constitution at risk because they believed there was somehow a higher order of things, that the ends do in fact justify the means. That’s the most Marxist, totalitarian doctrine I’ve ever heard of in my life. . . . You’ve done the very thing that James Madison and others feared when they were struggling to put the Constitution together, which was to create an unaccountable system with runaway power . . . running off against the will of the American people."
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 1:04:59 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  but when Reagan died Kerry issued a warm and gracious statement; yes this was probably hypocritical, but Kerry showed some class in being hypocritical -
Posted by: mhw || 06/08/2004 8:14 Comments || Top||

#2  " In 1992 Kerry said, "Ronald Reagan certainly was never in combat. I mean, many of his movies depicted him there. And he may have believed he was, but he never was. And the fact is that he sent Americans off to die."

Have I mentioned I was in Vietname lately?
Senator Hanoi John....
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 06/08/2004 8:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Kerry's statement was classy. Sure, he may not have meant it, but as someone 'way smarter than me once said, "Hypocrisy is the tribute vice plays to virtue." Kerry should be giving classes in class to some of his brother Dems (e.g., Gore, Kennedy.)

Doesn't mean I'll vote for the guy, but you gotta give him credit for doing the right thing when he does it.
Posted by: Mike || 06/08/2004 8:40 Comments || Top||

#4  "They put him in a brown jacket and jeans and get him to move some hay or drive a truck, and all of a sudden, he’s the Marlboro Man."

Why do lefties have such a problem with the cowboy? Aren't cowboys brave, fair, honest, tough, hard-working? Oh, NOW I see why...
Posted by: jules 187 || 06/08/2004 9:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Ronald Reagan wasn't in combat because of less-than-perfect eyesight. No other reason. I don't believe he would have shirked combat.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 06/08/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#6  I lifted and adapted this from a LGF comment a few days ago which was adapted from you know who:

Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, John Kerry? Ronald Reagan had a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You wept for the USSR and you cursed the White House. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what Reagan knew: That the Soviet downfall, while tragic to you, the EU and UN, saved lives. And Reagan's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saved lives. Ronald Reagan neither had the time nor the inclination to explain himself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that he provided, then questions the manner in which he provided it. He would have preferred you just said thank you and went on your way.
Posted by: Zpaz || 06/08/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Zpaz: Funny that. How quotes from films which are meant to show how icky soldier types are, can be turned around and used to demonstrate something good and positive.

A Few Good Men was a film that demonstrated those awful military people and how smart lawyers can rein those folks in with just turns of phrases and such. Ultimately, it comes off as a liberal rant against the military.

Well done.
Posted by: badanov || 06/08/2004 13:12 Comments || Top||

#8  "They put him in a brown jacket and jeans and get him to move some hay or drive a truck, and all of a sudden, he’s the Marlboro Man."

he says wearing a bomber jacket.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Just saw on Fox how Kerry broke into the LOOOOOONNNNNGGGG lines in CA to view Reagan's casket. Photo op was all it was. He had this sad look on his face and did the sign of the cross. Too bad most people don't remember or know how much he despised Reagan.
Posted by: AF Lady || 06/08/2004 17:18 Comments || Top||

#10  It would be interesting - and entertaining - if some enterprising TV reporter asked Kerry about the above quotes right about now, while he's pretending he admired Reagan.

But alas, they won't. Wussies.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 17:25 Comments || Top||

#11  In 1992 Kerry said, "Ronald Reagan certainly was never in combat. I mean, many of his movies depicted him there. And he may have believed he was, but he never was. And the fact is that he sent Americans off to die."

I saw the whole quote that surrounded this line. It was actually something to justify Billy Jeff's lack of military credentials as a presedential candidate. Parsing it out this way is a bit of a cheap shot IMO. Not that I like Kerry, but it is a good example of the way you can portray a comment in the negative when the intent of the comment was something wholly different. The libs do it to conservatives, especially the Pres, all the time.
Posted by: remote man || 06/08/2004 17:35 Comments || Top||

#12  Kerry is not stupid. He is not going to trash Reagan now when the whole world is rememebering one of the greatest of our times. You can chalk it up as a little class, and a lot polical savvy.

But that should not fool anyone. Nothing has changed since the 1980s. Kerry and his ilk hated the Gipper's ideas then, and they still do. They hate Bush because he shares the same philosophy, and has the courage of his convictions. They seem desparate because they remember Reagan had 8 years.
Posted by: Jake || 06/08/2004 17:42 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Rumsfeld speaks at the Int'l Inst for Strategic Studies
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 02:34 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This address is a tour de force. There is even a Cambodian representative in the Q&A that points out the insideous results of the "timetable" for US withdrawal from South East Asia.
Posted by: Sup[er Hose || 06/08/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||


Bush backs UK plan for debt relief
George Bush will back an ambitious British-designed plan for more generous debt relief for the world's poorest countries this week as the White House seeks backing from the G8 industrial nations for the financial reconstruction of Iraq. In a last-minute softening of his stance, Mr Bush has signalled to Tony Blair that he is prepared to offer greater generosity towards impoverished nations in Africa in an attempt to win western backing for a $90bn (£48.8bn) write-off of debts built up by Saddam Hussein.
International horse-trading at its finest.
The US had been planning a modest extension of debt relief at a G8 summit which begins today in Sea Island, Georgia. Mr Bush, according to UK sources, is now prepared to go much further on debt relief, following criticism that America cannot expect the slate to be wiped clean for Iraq unless it is prepared to adopt the same approach to poor countries in the rest of the world. With the White House also eager to secure backing for a new UN resolution on Iraq, Mr Bush will seek to show a commitment to multilateralism by endorsing a proposal drawn up by the chancellor, Gordon Brown, and the international development secretary, Hilary Benn. This would make the world's 41 highly indebted poor countries (HIPC) eligible for 100% debt write-offs from their multilateral creditors such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, at a cost to rich countries of $1bn-plus per year.
Already discounted, since everyone knows that money will never be repaid.
Mr Blair will unveil the proposal at Sea Island, and will see Mr Bush's change of heart as a vindication of his view that British support for the Iraq war has won him influence in Washington. UK Treasury officials said it was "an ambitious and unprecedented extension of debt relief", and that details would need to be finalised by finance ministers over the coming months. They added that it was vital that America did not use its support for multilateral debt relief as an excuse for backsliding on other forms of debt relief and financial assistance to poor countries. These include plans - also due to receive G8 support this week - for a $1bn, one-off top-up to a trust fund that helps poor countries pay off their bilateral debts and an extension of the HIPC programme beyond the end of 2004 to allow countries in conflict to remain eligible for help. In return for America's support on debt relief, Mr Blair will back President Bush's call at the summit for a drive to bring democracy and human rights to the Middle East, even though the initiative has caused deep divisions within the Arab world, especially traditional western allies such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The president is looking for G8 approval for a proposal to bring democracy, human rights and the rule of law to perhaps the most authoritarian regions in the globe.
Not a bad trade between Dubya and Tony.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/08/2004 12:59:27 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The prize is great-the price inpalatable. I knew it was only a matter of time before the world would be coming to America, who has just committed/spent billions in Iraq, with a hand out for more. When it's your money, you make it stretch; when someone else gives you money, it'll never be enough-that's the sorry lesson our liberal friends still have to learn. It has been true the world over for all time.
Posted by: jules 187 || 06/08/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Two killed in second Indonesian eruption
A second volcano has erupted in Indonesia, killing two tourists and seriously injuring another. Mount Bromo, a popular tourist destination in the densely populated east Java Province, produced a three-kilometre high column of ash and smoke before erupting late in the afternoon. All three victims were Indonesians from Bali. It is the second major eruption in two days in the Indonesian archipelago. About 20,000 villagers have been evacuated on the northern island of Singihe, where the Mount Awu volcano has erupted. The top level of alert has been declared for both volcanos
Two simultaneous major volcanic eruptions in Indonesia just above and just below the equator is my apocalyptic global cooling scenario. I suggest stocking up big time on popcorn. This could get very interesting.
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 9:32:41 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  volcanos....why do they hate us?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Mount Bromo burped...
Posted by: mojo || 06/08/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Mount Bromo, a popular tourist destination in the densely populated east Java Province, produced a three-kilometre high column of ash and smoke before erupting late in the afternoon.

Why don't they toss cases of Bromo Seltzer into the volcano's vent? Maybe it's having a bad case of indigestion or something...
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't look down into the crater, Achmet!
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/08/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Krakatoa - 1883 - Nothing left.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 13:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Not just nothing left of Krakatoa, BigEd. How about the tidal wave caused by the eruption? It caused enough damage in 1883 - I can't imagine what it would do now with the increased populations all around SE Asia & Australia. Probably would affect both Chinas, too.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran’s first official rap artist
He is clean-shaven and goes about his business wearing a suit and tie with his cut-back collar shirt. Hardly a hip-hop image for Iran’s first official rap artist. But Shahkar Binesh-Pagoh has brought the once underground genre of rap music into the open for Iranian teenagers. Sales of his new album Eskenas, literally banknote, are rocketing. "I started writing the album four years ago but knew that we would encounter problems releasing it," said the 32-year-old singer. "Up to 20 lyrical excerpts were deleted and we had no choice [but to] delete some songs." The album was finally approved by the ministry of Islamic guidance and culture, which vets all forms of art in the theocratic state. Many of the songs question the habit of girls following western fashions. The lyrics mock the girls in Teheran who stroll through the capital with designer headscarves and make-up. "More important than bread at night is your lipstick and lipliner," raps Binesh Pagoh about a conceited girl. "There’s a lot of religious people here, cover your legs with that skirt." The album’s release is an indication that officials are easing the restrictions on art. "Teenagers will always want to express themselves fashionably," said Binesh-Pagoh. "The government has realised this and is now a bit lenient on social demands." Officials are being forced to move with the times because 65 per cent of the population is younger than 25. "I love this kind of music," said 20-year-old Farzaneh. "I am surprised that the album was officially released. But even if it wasn’t, we can download banned artists from the internet."
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 06/08/2004 9:12:36 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So I guess we won't be hearing much about his "bitches and hos"?
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/08/2004 21:33 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Buddhist monks hospitalised after parliament fistfight
COLOMBO: Two Buddhist monk legislators were hospitalised on Tuesday after being punched by ruling party lawmakers in an unprecedented brawl in Sri Lanka’s parliament. Monks Akmeemana Dayaratne and Kolonnawe Sri Sumangala, who are opposition MPs, were punched by lay legislators and admitted to the Jayewardenepura hospital. The ruling Freedom Alliance is furious with Dayaratne, who was sworn in Tuesday to replace a fellow monk legislator who had broken ranks to support the shaky government. “I have worked in this parliament for over 20 years but have never seen such disgraceful behaviour,” a parliamentary official said. The monks’ National Heritage Party condemned the attack but said they were not surprised as government MPs had thrown files and paper balls at the monks during three previous sittings of the House. “People in this country have tremendous respect for Buddhist monks, but to see MPs hitting monks in parliament is not something that people will accept,” party spokesman Udaya Gamamanpila said, adding “This is a disgrace.”
Posted by: Fred || 06/08/2004 9:36:58 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Either appoint two linesmen to patrol the chamber of the National Heritage Party needs to employ a Shoalin priest for protection.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 22:32 Comments || Top||


Parents demand terrorism court trial for rapists of infant girls
The parents of two Pakistani girls, one only two-years-old, appealed on Tuesday that the men accused of raping their daughters be tried by an anti-terrorism court. Manir Masih, the father of the two-year-old Komal and Parveen Barkat, the mother of the seven-year-old Neha, held a press conference in Islamabad to recount the attacks on their daughters and the threats their families had received from the men they accused of the rapes. Mr Masih said his daughter was raped on April 6 near their home in Gujranwala. He discovered her lying covered in blood and saw a twenty-five-year old man, identified as Abid Hussain, fleeing from the scene. Mr Hussain reportedly works at the Shamsi Dairy Farm. Doctors have said the toddler must undergo six separate surgical operations to repair severe injuries, Christian rights activist Shahbaz Bhatti, president of the All Pakistan Minority Alliance, told the press conference. Mr Hussain’s family was now allegedly threatening to kill Mr Masih and his relatives unless they dropped the charges. “If the beast is not tried in a terrorism court and given due punishment, I along with my four children and wife will immolate ourselves in front of Parliament,” Mr Masih said.

Parveen Barkat said her seven-year-old daughter was raped on May 29 in Lahore. The family of the accused man, Ali Bahader of Lahore, was reportedly pressuring her husband to withdraw the charges. “My young child has been raped, my husband is sick and confined to his bed for the last six years, I do not know what to do,” Mrs Barkat said. Mr Bhatti said the government had “done nothing” about the rape of the infant girls. “We raised this issue in the Punjab Assembly but the government as usual neglected and ignored these brutal incidents of rape of two minor Christian girls” Mr Bhatti said. He said 46 Christian girls were raped in 2003 but have not received justice yet. Mr Bhatti asked President Pervez Musharraf to declare the rape of the two girls an act of terrorism.
Posted by: Fred || 06/08/2004 9:30:10 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  “If the beast is not tried in a terrorism court and given due punishment, I along with my four children and wife will immolate ourselves in front of Parliament,” Mr Masih said.

Here's a better idea, Mr. Masih. Set him and his family on fire.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/08/2004 21:54 Comments || Top||

#2  "2 yrs old, hmmm. your honor, my client was clearly provoked beyond his Islamic Society limits by the tempting prurient clothes the 'victim whore' wore! Velcro diapers/fetching undergarments are Satan's temptation, regardless of whether Spongebob or Patrick is on the fastener band......allahu akhbar!"
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 22:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Andrew Jackson might have said this if he had been Pakistani in contemporary times:

"if violence be your game, come on with your armed Moslem pedophiles Bank mercenaries, and by the Eternal! I will hang you around the Punjab Assembly Capitol on gallows higher than Haman's."
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 22:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Andalusia and the rest of Europe, stare at your future.
Posted by: ed || 06/09/2004 3:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Gentle? No commentary?
Posted by: Shipman || 06/09/2004 9:31 Comments || Top||


Doctors say Somia an adult, SHO summoned
The Lahore High Court has summoned the Tibbi City station house officer on Wednesday to explain why policemen are interfering in a love marriage.
"Yeah! Leave 'em alone, why dontcha?"
"But they're cohabiting!"
"That's 'cuz they got a marriage license!"
The medical superintendent of Services Hospital reported to the court on Tuesday that Somia, a dancer in the red light area, was indeed an adult and at least 19-years-old. Justice Khawaja Muhammad Sharif ordered the SHO to explain why he and his officers were trying to force Somia to break off her marriage to Muhammad Jehangir and return to her uncle Ghulam Abbas.
"I don't wanna go home to Uncle Ghulam! He's 74, an' he's got that big mole with the hairs growing out of it, an' he looks at me funny!"
Somia has asked the court to validate her marriage and protect her from the Tibbi City police. She said she was living with her uncle because her mother had died and her father Muhammad Aslam was not ready to accept her as his daughter.
"A dancer? She no daughter of mine, by Gum!"
Somia said she had wed of her own will but without the consent of her uncle. This had angered him and he had started interfering in her matrimonial life. The police was harassing her on the behest of her uncle, she added.
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MMA won’t allow change in Hudood laws: Samia Qazi
The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal will resist any attempts to amend the Hudood Ordinances, MNA Samia Raheel Qazi, daughter of Jamaat-e-Islami chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed, said on Tuesday. Ms Qazi said according to Articles 2A and 227 of the Constitution, the Quran and Sunnah were the supreme law of the land and the nation would reject politicians, intellectuals and leaders who go against these laws.
No surprise that Qazi's daughter would be against doing away with the laws that relegate women to the status of cattle. No surprise that she's in the politix business, either...
Posted by: Fred || 06/08/2004 8:39:46 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Culture Wars
Bureaucrat Thugs Bully Father For Removing Son off Ritalin
When Chad Taylor noticed his son was apparently experiencing serious side effects from Ritalin prescribed for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, he decided to take the boy off the medication. Now, he says he may be accused of child abuse. In February, 12-year-old Daniel began displaying some symptoms that his father suspected were related to the use of Ritalin. "He was losing weight, wasn’t sleeping, wasn’t eating," Taylor told ABC News affiliate KOAT-TV in New Mexico. "[He] just wasn’t Daniel."
But it was so much more convienient for the "School administrators" "Keep the kid doped up, instead of using proper discipline. That makes our job easier, and we can collect an easy paycheck off taxpayers.
So Taylor took Daniel off Ritalin, against his doctor’s wishes. And though Taylor noticed Daniel was sleeping better and his appetite had returned, his teachers complained about the return of his disruptive behavior. Daniel seemed unable to sit still and was inattentive. His teachers ultimately learned that he was no longer taking Ritalin.
Incompetent doctor demands Ritalin continue, while ignoring the side effects, then facist bureaucrats bully the father. What a country!
School officials reported Daniel’s parents to New Mexico’s Department of Children, Youth and Families.
This kid makes us have to earn our paycheck baaaw. Let’s just threaten the father. .
Then a detective and social worker invaded made a home visit. "The detective told me if I did not medicate my son, I would be arrested for child abuse and neglect," Taylor said. A spokesman for New Mexico’s Department of Children, Youth and Families told KOAT-TV that they could not comment on the case because of state confidentiality laws.
And fear of retaliation therough massive numbers of lawsuits in similar cases.
John Francis, a detective for the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety, lyingly said that Taylor was not threatened but told KOAT-TV that parents could be charged in situations like his.
{John Francis starts to breathe heavily and drool}
Kids are overmedicated for the convienience of school administrators. I wonder if this kid is involved in sports? Has he thuroughly been tested for food allergies? Is some bully bothering him in school that the PC facist administrators don’t want to deal with? If his apparent health improved when taken off the drugs, and the doctor made trouble for him, then papa needs to go to a new town, and get a new doctor, and a new school to perserve his family.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 5:20:22 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If you ever wondered what happened to all the "liberal arts" majors in college, they went into social services where the could satisfy their need to feel superior to everyone and to boost their self-esteem by bullying other people. The only moral difference between most of these people and the SS is the black uniform.

These people were self-righteous, self-aggrandizing, self-inflating morons in college, they got worse when they found they could get paid for playing with other people's lives. They are lower than cockroaches because at least cockroaches have a purpose in the scheme of life.
Posted by: Random thoughts || 06/08/2004 19:14 Comments || Top||

#2  nice part is they get paid shit
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 19:15 Comments || Top||

#3  More than they're worth.
Posted by: Random thoughts || 06/08/2004 19:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Hopefully, the father will go to a good lawyer. It looks like the LLL doesn’t care about the Rule of Law -- just more fascist extremism of elites trying to manage the masses.

It is not a crime for Daniel to have his needs, or for Daniel and his father to try to find the least restrictive way to deal with those needs. See 34 CFR § 300.550, et seq. As a federal issue, this matter would be governed by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act Amendments of 1997, 20 U.S.C. § 1400, et seq., § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, 29 U.S.C. § 794, and associated regulations appearing at 34 CFR parts 300 - 304. This federal law trumps state law. 20 U.S.C. § 1403. While addressing somewhat different issues than education, the provisions of the Americans with Disabilities Act, 42 U.S.C. § 12101, et seq., and related regulations also would have some impact on the issue. While a bit complex, at least the following can be said:
These statutes and their enabling regulations contain sweeping prohibitions against practices by public entities that discriminate against persons with disabilities. See, e.g., Section 202 of the Act, 42 U.S.C. § 12132 (no qualified individual . . . shall . . . be excluded from participation . . . or be subjected to discrimination). Furthermore, using EEOC regulations as an example, it is up to Daniel and his father to decide whether to take medication to minimize undesirable psychiatric symptoms, and to consider the consequences of not taking medication. However, medication compliance (in and of itself) is not a reasonable accommodation and, therefore, it cannot form the basis for denying access to school or punishing the father.

Separately, and based directly on the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, the involuntary administration of medication cannot be ordered in the absence of an evidentiary hearing that provides the individual in question with ample notice and a full opportunity to be heard by the decision maker. See, e.g., Riggins v. Nevada, 504 U.S. 127 (1992). Further, the involuntary administration of medication is not permissible when less intrusive alternatives exist. Id. Additionally, Daniel has a right to be placed in the least restrictive environment suitable for his status as a hyperactive (and probably bright, bored out of his mind kid), without being segregated from society as a result of any real or perceived disability. See Pennsylvania Department of Corrections v. Yeskey, 524 U.S. 206 (1998); Olmstead v. L.C., 527 U.S. 581 (1999)(recipients of state services cannot be required to relinquish participation in community life that they could enjoy if given reasonable accommodations).
Posted by: cingold || 06/08/2004 19:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Looks like more good work by the foot soldiers of the nanny state.
Send his Ritalin to Al Gore. He needs it more then the kid.

Posted by: tu3031 || 06/08/2004 20:20 Comments || Top||

#6  There are also new non-stimulant alternatives to Ritalin if the kid really needs it. That said, this is crap.
Posted by: remote man || 06/08/2004 20:26 Comments || Top||

#7  I find medicating kids for being kids extremely disturbing. I don't have the numbers to hand, but I recall being shocked by the number of children on Ritalin. The real issue is well meaning parents who listen to supposed experts and give 'mind altering' drugs to their kids. Its clear to me that the problem is not the kids its the system needs to give drugs to kids in order to function.
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 20:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Folks, thanks for all your comments. I hope I was not out of line with my editorializing.

I have a 3-year old son who is most "Rascal-daferous" and my fear is that once he starts school, he may not be well understood by the bureaucratic gestapo. My heart goes out to the father.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/09/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||


The Virulent Venom of Frustrated Rage
[The title sums up the Left perfectly, doesn’t it?]
EFL
by Wesley Pruden
The lot of the no-account eastcoast libsnob longhaired artsyfartsy slagpunk francophile comsymp is not a happy one.
Best description of the LLL I’ve ever read. Preach it, brother!
Not this week. All of America and much of the world is celebrating the life of a man who actually changed the course of history, and, for once, for the better. But not quite everyone. Ronald Reagan’s body is not yet mouldering in the grave, and already the tattered remnants of the counterculture are crying tears of baffled frustration that the passage of only a little more than a decade has begun to confer universal recognition of greatness on the 40th president of the United States. ...
Waaaaaaah. (Tough shit.)
What turns these unworthies a shade of crispy brown is not that they think Ronald Reagan actually fits any of their purple descriptions, but that he transformed, and transformed irretrievably, the politics not only of his country, but of the world.
Yes. And the Left HATES that. Only they get to transform politics. And certainly not in the direction Reagan did.
Margaret Thatcher got it right when she said more than a decade ago that Mr. Reagan’s greatest accomplishment was that "he has achieved the most difficult of political tasks, changing attitudes and perceptions about what is possible" ...
He changed attitudes about communism. Someone else seems to be trying to change attutudes about what’s possible in the Middle East, with the same attending derision from the chattering classes. But I digress.
The 40th president is rightly remembered in tributes and praise for rebuilding both the economy and the nation’s defenses, and doing both simultaneously. But before he could cut taxes, free the market or order a single bullet, bayonet or Pershing missile, he had to change calcified attitudes. In his diaries, he often said he moved forward with an initiative, sure of successful outcome, only after "I felt it in my gut." What he felt most in his gut was that America was what Lincoln said it was, with all its faults "the last best hope of mankind," that America was good and the Soviet Union was bad, and it was time to say so and act on it. This is the blunt assessment that the nation was waiting to hear, and if this caused heartburn in Paris or Bonn (Berlin was still red and half-dead) or Brussels, that was just too bad.
Deja vu, anyone? (or more likely deja pfui)
The man the chattering class regarded as bumbling, dumb and already moving into the outer suburbs of senility understood what the intellectuals of academe and the smart alecks of the media did not, that the bulging muscle of Soviet arms was all cattle and no hat, that Soviet economic might was a myth and the Russians were ripe to be taken down. "He was right," the Economist observed the day after Mr. Reagan died. "By the year he left office the Russians had lost Eastern Europe; two years later they abandoned communism. ... A large part of the chin-stroking classes of America and Europe had thought the clumsy fellow’s Cold War policy unnecessary and dangerous. When it worked, it became retrospectively obvious."
"chin-stroking classes" - perfect description, if from a surprising source.
Not bad for an old guy moving through his eighth decade, the champion of small-town America values of freedom, faith and family, the man the remnants of the counterculture regard as hopelessly inferior in all the ways important to eastcoast libsnob slagpunk comsymps etc. Everything about the life and accomplishments of Ronald Reagan says to the embittered critics choking on his dust: "I may be slow, but I’m miles ahead of you."
Gee, that sounds like another President I know, but his name escapes me at the moment....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 4:38:33 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred - thought I put this on Page 2 - can you move it?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Wes Pruden really knows how to turn a phrase.
Also, pretty good at picking the spades from the deck.
Posted by: GK || 06/08/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The lot of the no-account eastcoast libsnob longhaired artsyfartsy slagpunk francophile comsymp is not a happy one.
Has Wes been visiting Rantburg? Nice swipe at that f*ck-wit Rall too. That idiot is need of a serious @$$ kicking.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 06/08/2004 18:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Awesome article! Wow - perfect. Thanks, Barbara!!!

Mail this link to everyone you know! It rocks!
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 18:33 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
When Nuns Attack
The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Bulawayo has condemned an invasion of a white-owned farm led by two nuns, amid a fresh upsurge of violence against Zimbabwe's white farmers. At least 13 properties have been invaded in the past fortnight and several farmers have suffered beatings. Arthur and Ansy Swales, who grow maize in the Banket district, 60 miles north of Harare, said they had first been approached in 2002 by nuns from the Little Children of the Blessed Lady order, led by Sister Helen Maminimini and Sister Notvurgo, about using some land to grow vegetables. The couple donated around 90 acres and helped the sisters prepare it, but said the nuns grew increasingly aggressive, demanding expensive equipment and more and more land.
That's nuns for you, give them a inch and they want the whole yard
Then last month the nuns gave the Swales 24 hours to leave the farm. The couple refused. Eleven days later a group of youths from President Robert Mugabe's Zanu-PF party arrived at midnight. "They went and woke up all the workers, and made them run and sing government songs," said Mrs Swales.
Dear god, no! Any thing but government songs!
"They forced the guards to open the barn gates so they could get to the equipment. We called the police, but they didn't arrive for 14 hours." When they finally did, they said that the occupation was illegal and that the youths must go. Most have now left, but a group of about six to eight remain, squatting in some empty workers' houses, said Mrs Swales. "They tell us we can't move anything without their permission. We put all our capital into buying this machinery."
Take the hint, it's time to leave while you still can
Archbishop Pius Ncube of Bulawayo condemned the nuns' actions, saying: "It definitely was not with the blessing of the Church ... If a nun, a priest or even a bishop steals, it's definitely wrong, because it's against God's law."
But not against Bob's. Sadly, this does not surprise me. Many "activist" priests and nuns supported the worst of the communist rebel movements in Latin America.
Posted by: Steve || 06/08/2004 11:43:17 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  To : Archbishop Pius Ncube

TALK IS CHEAP. You work out a way to get these folks some arable land. Preferrably ouside Zimbabwe.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 12:34 Comments || Top||

#2  The nuns are up in arms,
They’ve taken the fields and barns,
They’re marching to the farms, because
the kids don’t drink enough milk.
Posted by: BH || 06/08/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Did they come after them with those rulers? The metal edge ones? Damn, they hurt!
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/08/2004 20:09 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Liberals seal borders!
As many as 20 percent — or about 2,000 — of Montgomery County’s (Maryland) eighth-graders whose parents missed a Friday deadline to prove their residency will not be allowed to attend high school next year, county schools officials said yesterday....In an unprecedented effort to stop border crossers from illegally receiving free tuition, school officials began in March to require parents to submit documents such as lease agreements, property-tax bills, utility bills and credit-card bills to prove their residency..... "We’re having a lot of trouble getting verification," Ms. Waits said. "Many of my students may be here illegally from other countries, and they are afraid they might be deported. I’ve assured them that this information won’t be shared with [federal immigration officials] or police."
It’s OK if you’re in the country illegally as long as you’re a legal country resident for funding purposes.

All it takes to get Montgomery County’s educational bureaucracy excited about "illegals" (immigrants from neighboring school districts who brave the hardships so that their children might have a better life) is the $10,000 a head they have to spend to educate them. We haven’t found the price point yet in California, but I think we’re getting close.
Posted by: RWV || 06/08/2004 11:29:34 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We had better make a decision about whether we are a country of laws or not. Illegal immigrants are being rewarded for breaking laws.

Since neither major presidential party is willing to stand up for what's right on immigration reform (Democrats want to give the entire country away in apology for Anglo history; Bush wants to shuck rule-of-law on this question), I am busy looking for a presidential candidate who has the CORRECT stand on immigration: legal and manageable immigration, with no rewards for cheaters. Has anybody learned of a credible candidate who has a sensible stance on immigration?
Posted by: jules 187 || 06/08/2004 11:46 Comments || Top||

#2  (remote.org)


Montgomery County officials ponder a solution to the school crisis. . .

Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Note, this is in MARYLAND and not a border state like California or Texas.

Briggs Chaney, which has about 250 eighth-graders, catches "a small number" of illegally enrolled students from the District and Prince George's County each year, he added.
"It's not a whole lot of students, but it's $10,000 per child [in lost tuition], so it impacts our resources," Mr. Hansch said.
"We've been paying attention to it for many years because we discover a few kids every year who aren't residing in Montgomery County."
Maryland law requires parents to pay tuition if their children attend out-of-county schools.


But its ok if they are in the country illegally....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/08/2004 11:59 Comments || Top||

#4  It doesn't matter if illegal immigrants can come up with twenty five thousand dollars; get out of the country and go home and file your application. Wait your turn and then we'll talk.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 12:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, they're worried about DC residents trying to get their kids into Montgomery County schools. Given the DC school system, can you blame the parents overly much?
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 06/08/2004 14:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Montgomery County Maryland is regularly listed as one of the richest counties in America because it is home to mostly high level bureaucrats for the federal government and there are NO poor people. That is why Go0d made DC, so there woudl be somewhere for the help to live.

It is also one of the most Democrat counties in America. That is why they don't mind having illegal immigrants from Mexico in their schools but they do mind having Americans from D. C.

That they should turn their backs' on those in need is unconscionable.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 06/08/2004 19:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Bush and Kerry are both open borders politicians, #1, you are right. Kerry wants the votes and Bush wants the cheap labor. Presidente Fox has gone on record as wanting open borders between Mexico, USA, and Canada. I suspect both Bush and Kerry would see the "wisdom" of this proposal, albeit for different reasons.

Where to find a politician with a correct stand on protecting our sovereignity?

If we get hit with another act of terrorism and it's discovered that the terrorists have snuck across the southern border, there'll be no shortaage of US politicians clamoring to get on the bandwagon of border security.

I'm with you on the border security. My parents were both immigrants-legal immigrants-so I feel very strongly about immigrating by the rules. If an immigrant starts out showing no respect for our country's immigration laws, it's downhill from there on.
Posted by: rex || 06/08/2004 22:42 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Zimbabwe to nationalise all land
Zimbabwe plans to end private ownership of land, a minister says. John Nkomo, minister in charge of land reform, says that all title deeds will be replaced by 99-year leases. He told the state-owned Herald newspaper that all land-owners should go to the government to be "vetted" to get a lease.
Vetted = "Friends of Bob" get a lease
About 500 white farmers remain on their land in Zimbabwe, out of some 4,000 in 2000, when the government speeded up the process of land reform. They own just 3% of the best farmland, down from 70%, government figures say. Mr Nkomo says that leases would be 25 years for wildlife conservancies, to allow more people to take part in that lucrative sector.
Of course, wildlife conservancies don't produce much food, but PETA will be happy.
"Ultimately, all land shall be resettled as state property. It will now be the state which will enable the utilisation of the land for national prosperity," he said. Private ownership of land is not allowed in many African countries.
It worked so well for the Soviet Union
The white Zimbabwean farmers who have gone to countries such as Zambia and Mozambique have been given long leases.
For now, anyway.
The Herald says that the government continues to list farms for compulsory state acquisition - 259 last year and 918 this year. Government critics and aid agencies says that the disruption to the farm sector has led to massive hunger, with more than half the population needing food aid. But the government says that harvests are now rising, with production of the staple food maize, more than doubling compared to the previous two years. Agriculture Minister Joseph Made told state-run media that the government's land redistribution programme was responsible for the improvement. The government blamed the food shortages of previous years on drought.
Posted by: Steve || 06/08/2004 10:26:04 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I sure hope nobody's gonna take it amiss when we decline to provide megatons of free food for these jerks once the starving really begins.
Posted by: mojo || 06/08/2004 10:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Bob and cronies have ruined everything else and have nothing left to control but the land, ergo: nationalize the land (so we can ruin that too!)
Posted by: Spot || 06/08/2004 10:57 Comments || Top||

#3  . . .Well Mugabe once compared himself to a tribal chief.

Zimbabwe Chief (round)

I-come-a-Mugu-Mugu-by-a
I-come-a-Mugu-Muga-be
I-come-a-Mugu-Mugu-by-a
I-come-a-Mugu-Muga-be

See him there, the con-fi-sca-tor
See him there, the tribal chief, chief, chief ...

Posted by: Oge_Retla_2004 || 06/08/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#4  The government blamed the food shortages of previous years on drought.
The next drought is going to be one of "donor fatigue." The drying up of contributions to support the Palestinians is just the beginning of the withdrawal of the free ride that has been extended to despots in the MidEast and Africa. What's the point in providing aid when the local warlord (dba President for Life, Glorious Leader, etc.) will confiscate it and divvy it up amongst his cronies. Zimbabwe is about to have a serious encounter with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Posted by: RWV || 06/08/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#5  "I sure hope nobody's gonna take it amiss when we decline to provide megatons of free food for these jerks once the starving really begins."

I just hope we have the wisdom and the fortitude to decline it; my worry is that we'll rush in to save these collectivist asses from their folly instead of letting them reap what they've sown.
Posted by: Dave D. || 06/08/2004 11:59 Comments || Top||

#6  It's a shame I didn't put money on it. We may well be in for Nov. 2004 as the start of the ZimBOBwe famine.

See this.
Posted by: badanov || 06/08/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#7  Dave: Do keep in mind that the people who are causinge the famine are not the people who are doing the actual starving. That said, I too do not want us to end up being Bob's enablers out of sympathy for his citizens subjects victims.
Posted by: Mike || 06/08/2004 12:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Notice to white people/farmers in Zimbabwe:

Cut your losses and get out while you still can. Leave right now. Don't delay. At some point the Jews in Nazi Germany were looking at what you are looking at right now. Unless you really truly intend to DIE for your cause, best to acknowledge and move on.
Posted by: B || 06/08/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#9  I just cannot believe the downward spiral that Zimbabwe has travelled. Bob needs to go. The Zimbabweans cannot do it, and South Africa seems to be enablers. SA could be a positive influence on Africa, but that bubble seems popped. And to think that Zim used to be the breadbasket of the area. Wacha gonna do, Koffi? Use some oil for palaces money left over? **sounds of empty bellies**
Posted by: Alaska Paul in Chefornak || 06/08/2004 16:23 Comments || Top||

#10  Stupidity in agriculture usually solves itself. Don't f**k with the prime directive.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 17:41 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraqi Health News
excerpted from IWPR Daily Summary of Iraqi News
Woman arrested on suspicion of spreading AIDS
(Azzaman) - Baghdad police arrested an Iraqi woman suspected of having relations with Facility Protection Police elements with the aim of spreading the AIDS virus among them. Colonel Qais Hameed said she was arrested three days ago after a policeman complained of symptoms following his relations with her. Hameed said the investigation is going on to determine if the woman was connected with any external groups seeking to spread the disease in Iraq. He confirmed the woman was a carrier of the AIDS virus after she was subjected to medical tests.
Dr White can you forward a helpful brochure to the Baghdad PD that would explain the difference between AIDS and Crabs to Col. Hameed and his men. Realistically, if AIDS were a problem in Iraq, Uday would have been dead long before the US wacked him.
(London-based Azzaman is issued daily by Saad al-Bazaz.)

Health ministry to arrest staff accused of rampant theft
(Al-Sabah) - The Ministry of Health (MH) has issued an order to arrest a host of employees accused of stealing medicines of chronic diseases valued at $15 billion. General Inspector Adil Muhsin said the MH acted according to the legal right given to it to fight administrative corruption. Minister Ala al-Deen Abdul Sahib al-Alwan emphasised the necessity of having a programme that tackles all the important issues - above all shortages of medicines, administrative corruption, children’s deaths, and medical services. The medicine theft was discovered after huge amounts were found on the black market.
(Al-Sabah is issued daily by the Iraqi Media Network on behalf of the Coalition Provisional Authority.)
Posted by: Anonymous4828 || 06/08/2004 3:18:45 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...after a policeman complained of symptoms following his relations with her.

Symptoms? Don't those take years to develop? Wouldn't an HIV test be more prudent and timely than waiting for symptoms to appear?
Posted by: Dar || 06/08/2004 11:59 Comments || Top||

#2  "He no have AIDS, him have drippy dick..."
Posted by: mojo || 06/08/2004 14:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Dr White can you forward a helpful brochure to the Baghdad PD that would explain the difference between AIDS and Craps to Col. Hameed and his men.

I meant "crabs."
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Art exhibition takes liberties with Lady Liberty
excerpted from IWPR daily summary of Iraqi Press.
(Asharq al-Awsat) - Tahir Whayib, a sculptor participating in an exhibition held in Baghdad to condemn the abuse of Iraqi prisoners, said "I wanted to explain that behind the face of freedom presented by the US we find nothing but agony and fetters". The idea of holding the exhibition was that of Qasim Sabti, Director of Hiwar Gallery. Sabti says, "The Americans behaved disgustingly and unbelievably". Whayib’s sculpture looks like the famous Statue of Liberty in America except that its hands and feet are tied, while its head is covered by the famous torch of freedom.
(London-based Asharq al-Awsat, a pro-Saudi independent paper, is issued daily.)

This demonstrates another planning failure with respect to the rebuilding effort. It is unconscionable that the Endowment of the Arts was given no role in the reconstruction. Whayib has demonstrated a fundamental misunderstanding about the requirements of "protest art." He has completely failed to use any bodily fluids or excrement in his art piece. Sure, maybe he wiped a haphazard bugger somewhere or included ear wax, but we are talking about the difference between giving feces, semen, mucus, blood and/or urine as a "central role in art as apposed to just an "important" role.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 3:14:27 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Russia
Russia’s Kidnap/Murder Unit Apparently Targeting Whisle-Blowers
From The Washington Post
Allegations about Russia’s kidnap/murder unit were published also in a previous posting from Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty.
The young men started disappearing a few months ago, one by one, often with no trace. Prosecutor Rashid Ozdoyev suspected a dark conspiracy: Maybe the abductions were the work not of ordinary criminal gangs but of Russia’s top law enforcement agency. Then Ozdoyev himself disappeared. Shortly after he got off an airplane from Moscow, where he had delivered a report criticizing alleged abuses by the agency, the Federal Security Service, Ozdoyev climbed into his car, drove off and has not been seen since. The case has sent a chill through the southern region of Ingushetia, already anxious because of the recent wave of kidnappings and violence. The search for the missing prosecutor has turned up nothing; the investigation has gone nowhere. No one at the security service has been interviewed. And some of Ozdoyev’s nervous fellow prosecutors said they assume the [Russian] security service snatched their whistle-blowing colleague to shut him up, yet they feel powerless to do anything about it. ....

In places like Ingushetia, right next door to the war-ravaged region of Chechnya, the FSB [Russian initials of the Federal Security Service, successor of the KGB] increasingly operates with impunity, largely unchallenged by the local government, which is headed by a former KGB officer and Putin ally. At least 40 men have disappeared in the last six months, mostly members of the Ingush and Chechen ethnic groups, according to human rights activists who said they suspect involvement by the security service. ...

[Rashid Ozdoyev’s] most recent report, according to [his father] Boris Ozdoyev, was a 14-page paper outlining FSB abuses. His son delivered it to Moscow, then flew back to Ingushetia on March 11. .... Boris Ozdoyev said his investigation into Rashid’s disappearance points the finger directly at [local FSB chief Col. Sergei] Koryakov. Ozdoyev said his other son found Rashid’s missing car, a green Lada, covered by a tarp at an FSB garage, but it was later moved. Ozdoyev said he then picked up rumors that the kidnappers were FSB officers. So, following the customs of local Ingush society, Ozdoyev and other male elders from his family convened a council meeting with one of the FSB officers and his relatives. At the meeting, Ozdoyev said, the FSB officer admitted involvement and said the operation was ordered by Koryakov. .... Musa Ozdoyev, 65, a retired economist and Boris’s cousin, confirmed in an interview that he was at the council meeting and heard the FSB officer admit his involvement. ....
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 06/08/2004 7:37:46 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Tech
Virtual fences to herd Wi-Fi cattle
Nothing to do with the WOT, but it does have the other three RB staples - animals, technology and general weirdness.
Virtual, moving fences controlled from a laptop could one day herd cattle to fresh fields for grazing, a roboticist told the MobiSys 2004 conference in Boston, Massachusetts, on Sunday. A farmer would control multiple herds from a single server at home as if he were playing a video game, said Zack Butler, of Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire. Although static virtual fences already keep dogs inside yards in affluent US neighbourhoods, no-one has attempted a moving virtual fence before, nor attempted to apply the idea to large herds of animals. "Basically we download the fences to the cows," says Butler. "We say: ’Today stay here, tomorrow go somewhere else."

Butler and his colleagues have written software that transmits the chosen GPS co-ordinates of a virtual fence to head-collars worn by the cows in the field. When a cow strays towards these co-ordinates, software running on the collar triggers a stimulus chosen to scare the cow away, such as a sound or a small electric shock - this is the "virtual" fence. The software also "herds" the cows when the position of the virtual fence is moved. Each collar is equipped with a Wi-Fi networking card, a Zaurus PDA, an eTrex GPS unit and a loudspeaker, all of which are off-the-shelf components. The server and the collars communicate using the 802.11B Wi-Fi standard, using a Wi-Fi base station in the field.

Butler points out that some watering holes are already equipped with electrical pumps powered by solar generators. These could be converted into solar-powered Wi-Fi base stations, he says. Furthermore, cattle visit watering holes regularly, meaning the latest GPS data could be downloaded even if some parts of the pasture were out of Wi-Fi range. The group has tested a static version of the virtual fence on 10 cows in a field in Vermont that was one square kilometre in size. They have only tested the moving version on a group of students. "We have done this on a few research animals but it is not quite ready for prime-time," explains Butler. The technology appears to be working, but stimulus is not deterring the animal.

The warning currently being used is one of a library of sounds intended to scare a cow, including roaring tigers, barking dogs and hissing snakes. The group’s tests showed that while these sounds slow the cattle down - they receive the signal - they do not always stop them crossing the virtual fence. However, Butler notes that the US Department of Agriculture has shown that cows respond much better to a combination of sounds and electric shocks which increase in intensity the closer the animal gets to a virtual fence. He believes the system would be especially attractive to farmers in Australia who must move cattle across ranches that range up to 22,000 square kilometres - roughly the size of Massachusetts. Currently farmers herd the cattle on horseback, motorcycles or even in helicopters, and have to open and close gates frequently, all requiring many workers and considerable time. In future, the collar could even be equipped with additional sensors, he says, perhaps to monitor the cows’ health and radio data back to the central server.
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 4:15:17 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So could the Saudis use this tech somehow to improve Nayef's Boyz record in "surrounding" jihadis?

And, back to the cows, uh, what if enough of 'em get zapped at about the same time and they stampede toward the center? BBQ time?

Mucky's really gonna be pissed.
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 4:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Keep movin', movin', movin',
Though they're disapprovin',
Keep them doggies movin' Wi-Fi!
Don't try to understand 'em,
Just point and click and brand 'em,
My laptop is nineteen inches wide.
C-P-U calculatin'
Cell modem is handshakin',
From the front seat of my S-U-V ride.

Move 'em on, link 'em up,
Link 'em up, go remote,
Go remote, head 'em out Wi-Fi!
Load 'em up, load 'em down,
F-T-P, zip 'em up,
Zip- 'em up, ride 'em in Wi-Fi!


See y'all later, I gots to download the back forty . . .
Posted by: Mike || 06/08/2004 6:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Anybody got the lyrics to Neil Young's "Computer Cowboy"?
Posted by: Grunter || 06/08/2004 6:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Mike - Bravo! Great job - Lol!
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 6:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Very funny, Mike.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 06/08/2004 7:06 Comments || Top||

#6  The group has tested a static version of the virtual fence on 10 cows in a field in Vermont that was one square kilometre in size. They have only tested the moving version on a group of students.
"We have done this on a few research animals but it is not quite ready for prime-time," explains Butler. The technology appears to be working, but stimulus is not deterring the animal.


Somehow, for some party schools, this paragraph is strangely appropriate.
Posted by: Ptah || 06/08/2004 7:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Yea,whistle-whistle,capclap.(Mike gets a standing ovation.
Posted by: Raptor || 06/08/2004 7:46 Comments || Top||

#8  Grunter: Neil Young Website
Posted by: Frank G || 06/08/2004 8:18 Comments || Top||

#9  Oh, those poor, poor border collies with nothing to do
Posted by: Spot || 06/08/2004 9:08 Comments || Top||

#10  Spot - Will that make PETA happy - or piss 'em off? Are these dogs "oppressed" because they are working dogs? Gosh, my PETA knowledge fount is dry! One thing I do, know is that those dogs go absolutely apeshit if they don't have something to herd. PETA'd prolly hire a doggie shrink and demand meds for 'em.
Posted by: .com || 06/08/2004 9:15 Comments || Top||

#11  .com - they're oppressed I tell ya! Pets are slaves! Up is down! Black is white! Get that dog off my leg!
F*ck PETA - fortunately I work in Chicago and can go to the Billy Goat and have a cheezborga for lunch
Posted by: Spot || 06/08/2004 11:17 Comments || Top||

#12  Touche, #2
Posted by: Oge_Retla_2004 || 06/08/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#13  The video game stores have Dogz and Catz. . .

(Amazon.com)

Soon. . Cowz

Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#14  im knowing you guys is think this in funy but is not. i kmow you guys are kill cows anyways but why arent they can be treat humanely? electric shock not humane! also what are happen dogz now like spot is say? also what about unemploy cowboys? not much job out there under chainey that are value lasso skills as requirement. this bad idea all around. as far as peta go at least they are care and not like politician go sacrafice care to owl god in bohemian grove!
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/08/2004 14:07 Comments || Top||

#15  Yeah, mucky, PETA cares so much that they executed 3500 homeless dogs last year. But it made 'em feel bad to do it, don't ya know... And that's what REALLY matters.
Posted by: mojo || 06/08/2004 14:49 Comments || Top||

#16  Bruce Friedrich, Chairman of the Politboro of PETA calls for violence. Apparently applies to animals who eat meat as well (dogs).

Talk Show Host Dennis Prager's favorite question:
If a human or your dog was drowning, who would you save.

He only lets you say, "the animal", if the person drowning is a Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddahm, etc.

I'd Add Brucie.

WHO WOULD YOU SAVE?

(images.google.com)
Bruce Frederich

OR

SHIVA the BOXER-DOG
(inet.hr/~jaschenb)

Easy Choice
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#17  save shiva!

mojo that why spade and neuter of pets so important.
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/08/2004 16:19 Comments || Top||

#18  Mucky, its important to spay/neuter, that is true. But what do you, as a vegetarian, feed your dogs/cats?

Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#19  you be surprised at this but actualy im not own any pets. against apartment rules. dogs are can have a somewhat vegan diet but cats are die if eat vegatable matter. halfempty is curently lose him pet california king snake and me and him trying find progresive values snake that adopt vegan diet. we are not have any luck so far. it looking like snake are not as progresive in they ideoligies as iguanas and tortoises.
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/08/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#20  M4D - Well as a throwback who indulges in meat, I also feed all four of the "residents", 2 dogs, and 2 cats, beef, chichen, and fish. But you are right. Cats don't like veggies, but my German Shepherd likes to crunch on raw carrots. (Of course she prefers medium rare sirloin.)

So how did this thread go from virtual cattle fencing to this? Ha!
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
MRC summarizes Lefty news reaction to Reagan Death
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/08/2004 00:59 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  *Shakes head*.

Apparently the left's disrespect knows no bounds; now they don't even bother to pretend they have nice things to say about the guy in the days following his death.
Posted by: The Doctor || 06/08/2004 19:03 Comments || Top||

#2  The only thing that can be said about this development is that the Left has quite possibly unwisely opened up a can of worms. When the next Democrat ex-president croaks, only one disparaging comment need be uttered by someone on the right before the wailing begins in earnest from the Left about disrespect for the dead.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 20:06 Comments || Top||


NRO - text of Reagan's Alzheimer’s letter
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Africa: Subsaharan
U.N.: Black Box, Rwanda Genocide Not Tied
The United Nations confirmed Monday that the cockpit voice recorder found in a filing cabinet at U.N. headquarters is not linked to a 1994 plane crash that triggered Rwanda's genocide. The so-called black box was discovered in March in the United Nations' Air Safety Unit, where it apparently had sat for a decade after its arrival by diplomatic pouch from the U.N. Mission in Rwanda. The discovery was a major embarrassment for the world body. Even Secretary-General Kofi Annan called it a "first-class foul-up."
As opposed to the Oil for Palaces program.
A few weeks later, a private firm and the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board in Washington determined that it probably wasn't linked to the crash. The U.N. investigation concluded that the recorder was not from the plane shot down while carrying Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana and his counterpart from Burundi from a meeting in Tanzania. Nor did it "contain any relevant information about the crash of that aircraft," according to the U.N. Office of Internal Oversight Services. The report by the U.N. internal oversight office, the world body's watchdog, said U.N. staff at the time did not analyze the recorder or report its existence to senior officials because the box was in such "good condition." Even if the black box had been from the downed plane, it is unlikely that the information inside would have changed the course of events. No one disputes that Habyarimana's plane was intentionally shot down, and there is little the flight data recorder could reveal about who was responsible.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/08/2004 12:55:55 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  OK,I'll bite,what aircraft is the black box from?

Is it possible this is a by-product of some scam?Is someone w/freight contract w/UN swapping boxes to hide maintenance/safety issues?Enquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Stephen || 06/08/2004 2:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Even I am surprised by the level of weasliness in this article. But it does confirm the BB came from Rwanda presumably around the time the Rwandan Presidents plane crashed. Given that to get a BB a plane has to crash and there are very few planes in Rwanda, just which crashed plane did it come from and were there in fact any other plane crashes around that time.

I expect the media to be on this big time. (Not!)
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 12:01 Comments || Top||

#3  i.e. impoverished Africans are 2nd class humans in the UN's eyes, even if Kofi Annan as Major Domo.

There is no resource to keep 'em interested, like Oil for Bribes.

If the greatest gold or other resource was found in Rwanda watch the UN get aroused.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 16:20 Comments || Top||


Nigeria faces fuel strike threat------again!
(If the oil strike is pulled off and lasts for a week or so, since Nigeria is a key OPEC exporter expect another slight boost in global crude prices.)
Nigeria’s biggest trade union is threatening a nationwide strike over rising fuel prices. The Nigerian Labour Congress (NLC) said its members would down tools for 21 days from Wednesday unless the government agreed to cheaper fuel. "Banks, offices, schools, markets and companies will be closed," said NLC leader Adams Oshiomole. The move triggered a long-running confrontation between the government and trade unions protesting over the economic hardship caused by dearer fuel. The unions claim higher prices have pushed up the cost of public transport and food in a country where most of the 130-million strong population subsists on less than a dollar a day. The government has taken legal steps to prevent the threatened industrial action, issuing a court summons against the NLC and the affiliated Trade Union Congress. The unions have said they will appear in court, but have pledged to proceed with the strike regardless.

There are also fears that the strike, supported by oil workers’ unions Pengassan and Nupeng, could disrupt Nigeria’s oil exports. "There won’t be activities on the rigs. Loading will not take place at the terminals," a Pengassan official told the Agence France Presse news agency. Nigeria, Africa’s biggest oil producer and a member of the Opec cartel, pumped 2.7 million barrels of oil a day last month, compared with global daily demand of about 73 million barrels. Razia Khan, Africa analyst at Standard Chartered bank, told the BBC that any disruption to Nigeria’s exports would reinforce fears of global shortages, which last week pushed US oil prices to a record high of over $42 a barrel. "Disruption would mean further pressure on the price of oil internationally," she said. Ms Khan added that the continuing stand-off between government and trade unions illustrated the political sensitivity of fuel prices in Nigeria. "It’s almost seen as a birthright to have access to cheaper fuel," she said.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 06/08/2004 12:25:18 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Tech
BP First to Provide Hydrogen at Existing Filling Station
BP today announced that it has added fuelling facilities to provide hydrogen – the clean transport fuel – on a trial basis at one of its Singapore retail filling stations.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 06/08/2004 12:41:34 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Insert Hindenberg joke here.
Posted by: someone || 06/08/2004 1:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Hydrogen from where? Clean how? Do they only split it from water by electricity produced by solar cells? Or do they reform it from nasty petroleum with energy intensive high temp processes like 99% of the hydrogen commercially produced?
Posted by: Craig || 06/08/2004 7:34 Comments || Top||

#3  I was talking to my boss yesterday(he is a chemist, works for wyeth supporting the local hi-tech equiptment) aparently there is alot of free floating hydrogen in water, you don't need to seperate it from the oxygen to get at it, you do need something that is good at sucking up the hydrogen though, 'parently theres various substances/metals/whatevers that are pretty good at it.
so it's vry possible they are selling gray water or something
Posted by: dcreeper || 06/08/2004 8:34 Comments || Top||

#4  BP today announced that it has added fuelling facilities to provide hydrogen..

I'm curious: isn't hydrogen difficult to confine in a container? And since it is flammable, how much of a danger does it pose in use as a fuel?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 06/08/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#5  The Hindenburg over NYC a few minutes before. . .

(USCRC)

Will New Jersey ban Hydrogen stations?

Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#6  isn't hydrogen difficult to confine in a container?
Yes, it really, really want's to escape. Any little leak and it will find it.
And since it is flammable, how much of a danger does it pose in use as a fuel?
Less than you would think. Because it is lighter than air if it escapes, it goes up. If you watch the Hindenburg video, the flame is rising up while people are running from under it. I have read that most of the causualities were caused by the diesel fuel burning and falling wreckage. Safer than gasoline which pools on the ground and burns.
Posted by: Steve || 06/08/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#7  The problem with shipping hydrogen is that it is really energy inefficient. Hydrogen under pressure contains far less energy than the equivalent volume of gasoline and requires a heavy containment tank. (I haven't checked the chemistry but I am reasonably sure hydrogen under pressure does not liquify at any temperature we can reasonably achieve) Its like heating up gasoline to create a gas in order to ship it. It doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Hydrogen does liquify at achievable temperatures. All the gas products companies such as Air Products, Air Liquide, BOC produce cryogenic storage tanks for hydrogen. Your point is taken though, Phil. The tanks constantly vent hydrogen if the hydrogen is not constantly in use. The hydrogen simply boils off regardless of how well the tank is made. (Typically there is an annular void space between the outer and inner tank to prevent convective and conductive heat transfer between the walls. Radiative heat transfer can not be prevented however.) Also, it takes a lot of energy to cool the hydrogen to cryogenic temperatures.
Posted by: Zpaz || 06/08/2004 14:17 Comments || Top||

#9  Alcohol. Think "fuel cell".
Posted by: mojo || 06/08/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#10  Oh, and that hydrogen bleeding can build up with nasty results. If any of you have watched the shuttle lift off, they use a sparker beneath the shuttle to vaporize any loose hyrdogen so it can't build up beneath the system.

Oh, and Challenger explosion is a nice example of what happens when liquid hydrogen and flame come into contact.

I did read somewhere that they had a plan to use a detergent with hyrdogen bound into the flakes. Solid would be the safest form, but I don't think you could really store enough hyrdogen that way to do any good.
Posted by: Ruprecht || 06/08/2004 16:44 Comments || Top||

#11  Hydrogen is difficult to contain because the atoms are so small that they can fit between the cracks of larger atoms. Leaks are exasperated.
Posted by: BigEd || 06/08/2004 16:44 Comments || Top||

#12  Has anyone looked into the problems caused by hydrogen-fueled cars when they get into wrecks? Back when I was a firefighter, we watched out for propane and other pressurized cylinders - they could be a real danger, particularly in a fire.

Yes, I know the problems caused by gas and diesel tanks after car wrecks, particularly since any leaking liquid pools and can easily (in the case of gas) ignite. But pressurized tanks give me the willies at a fire or accident scene.

No matter how much someone reassures me, whenever I see "hydrogen fueled" I think "Hindenburg."
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/08/2004 17:34 Comments || Top||

#13  Ok, so forget hydrogen it's too dangerous. The US has the largest deposits of Helium in the world we are the Saudi Arabia and Russia of Helium. It's twice has good as hydrogen.

/Dr. Science
Posted by: Shipman || 06/08/2004 19:08 Comments || Top||

#14  Too bad we couldn't somehow harness all the hot air let out by the left . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 06/08/2004 19:11 Comments || Top||

#15  Zpaz, thanks for the correction. What I should have said was we can reasonably achieve in the transportation process

Methanol/ethanol looks like the answer for fuel cells. Liquid at room temperature, and can be mixed with water to make it non-flammable. Yes folks, a car that can run on beer or other beverage of your choice.
Posted by: Phil B || 06/08/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||



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