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-Lurid Crime Tales-
NYC pols have let the mentally ill take over our streets
[NYPOST] The threat-laced ramblings of alleged subway shooter Frank James, now in jug, have a disturbingly familiar ring, don’t they? Sure, they’re on YouTube — but bitter mumblings of the same sort are heard all day, every day in New York’s increasingly untenable subway system.

So the question of the moment is this: How long will the city accommodate — indeed, encourage — aggressive mental illness in its public spaces? Will it ever push back?

How many shootings, how many slashings, how many fatal shovings and — disgustingly — how many demented excrement smearings will it take before the penny drops?

How many subway cars, train and bus terminals and public parks must fill to the brim with pitiful, helpless and obviously self-destructive people before New York’s leaders have had enough?

This is not a new problem, of course — not by any means.

Once upon a time, decades ago, there was a police captain who got it. He had very little patience with a then-novel notion that therapy must always trump coercion when the violent mostly peaceful mentally ill act out in public.

"If you knew so much about mental cases," he’d bark at social workers, "the police wouldn’t need to be called. The reason we’re here is because you failed."

Certainly the new policy was failing, badly. It assumed the insane were fit masters of their own destiny, regardless of circumstances and consequences — which was, well, nuts. But it had become the law.

Presently New York’s mental hospitals emptied, its public spaces grew forbidding — and decades of often lethal chaos ensued.

Kendra’s Law, a ’90s response to a fatal subway shoving, allowed judges limited authority to order involuntary confinement for the mentally ill — until then, cops and the courts were virtually powerless before the violent mostly peacefully insane.

That was the theory, anyway. In practice, as that old-timey police captain well knew, coercion — jail — was applied because "therapy" was non-existent and, anyway, a prescription for continued mayhem.

Then came the progressive "reforms" of 2019. Now hardly anyone goes to jail for anything — and the thoroughly predictable result has been a sharp rise in seemingly motiveless violent mostly peaceful crime.

Except they’re usually not motiveless at all — but rather driven by demons that defy reason, let alone compassionate understanding. They’re just invisible.

None of this makes any difference to the city’s growing league of random victims — babies in strollers, wide-eyed tourists, elderly straphangers and, Tuesday morning, Brooklyn commuters.

Who speaks for them? Who acts for them?

Nobody with the power to help them, that’s for sure.

Kendra’s Law is a well-intentioned half-measure that takes fully into account the interests of the state’s violent mostly peacefully insane — but only nominally those of other New Yorkers.

This presumption needs to be flipped on its head. Where interests collide, those of the innocent must prevail — and this, ironically enough, would include those too addled to protect themselves.

Why is this so complicated?

That old cop recognized failure when he saw it. After five decades, you’d think New York would, too.
Posted by: Fred || 04/15/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under:


#2  Cause they're the same. One just wears better suits than the other.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/15/2022 9:00 Comments || Top||

#3  They either fix it or New York City goes the way of Detroit, Seattle and San Francisco.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/15/2022 11:45 Comments || Top||

#4  To be fair fricking Reagan.

Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter's community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government's role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

Ass hole.
Posted by: Woodrow || 04/15/2022 18:59 Comments || Top||

#5  ^ sorry, can't seem to find the federal government's responsibility in that area anywhere in the Constitution. However, I do see the 10th as saying if you can't find it here, it belongs to the states.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/15/2022 21:25 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
‘Only one winner in this war, and that is CHINA. The US foolishly got bogged down... it should ally with Russia and India against China’ - John Mearsheimer,13 April
[MSN]
Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 04:02 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Commies


#2  I agree with alignment of USA, India and Russia but I also added Israel. Now we have a NATO of Asia forming and we are the odd man out. Canada, Latin America, Arab areas, Africa, and even Australia are poor friends at this time. I should think South Korea, Vietnam and particularly Japan must be very concerned. I see Israel will drift towards Russia as India is now doing. Russia offers balance whereas China represents absorption. Frankly Europe is a no show. A bureaucratic nightmare of self absorbed elites.
Posted by: Dale || 04/15/2022 6:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Ridiculous crazy talk. China is a trusted trading partner. [sarc off]

I suspect we'll see Director Burns retiring soon.

Posted by: Besoeker || 04/15/2022 6:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Most sites video didn't play for me but does play here;
Posted by: Dale || 04/15/2022 6:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Burns is a career diplomat, American diplomat and career ambassador. That says it all to me. Wine parties and dinner socials. Highly paid body doing nothing.
Posted by: Dale || 04/15/2022 6:49 Comments || Top||

#6  China is the enemy of all that exist about it. Russia will work with China at arms length. History of their relationships over time shows Russia has a healthy well deserved distrust of China.
Posted by: Dale || 04/15/2022 6:54 Comments || Top||

#7  Seems lies all along even covid,"The officials say the Biden administration has been rapidly pushing out “intelligence” about Russia’s plans in Ukraine that is “low-confidence” or “based more on analysis than hard evidence”, or even just plain false, in order to fight an information war against Putin."Direct war on America thru media from our own government. .
Posted by: Dale || 04/15/2022 7:45 Comments || Top||

#8  I suspect we'll see Director Burns retiring soon.

What's the Chinese equivalent of dacha?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 8:15 Comments || Top||

#9  China is taking a big hit from the Russia invasion of Ukraine

- price of oil is way way up and China imports over 10 million barrels per day

- price and availability of other products including for example, wheat, copper and electrical equipment are also major problems
Posted by: Lord Garth || 04/15/2022 9:03 Comments || Top||

#10  Mearsheimer predicted this war would result from America's foolish encouragement of Ukraine to seek to join NATO and create "a western bulwark" within striking distance of Moscow.

An intelligent approach according to Mearsheimer would be to ensure Ukrainian neutrality and distance from the US. Ukraine should have been nuclear-armed and independent.

Instead of this sensible solution we have the worst of all possible worlds: a perpetual proxy war which neither Russia nor the US can afford to be seen to lose. It is a recipe for escalation into a nuclear war.

Instead of the US, Russia and India aligned against China, now the Russians, Chinese and Indians -- along with the OPEC nations and nearly all of the global South - are united against the foolish, self-destructive US sanctions.
Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 9:24 Comments || Top||

#11  ^ So obviously Putin will not demand that the sanctions be lifted as part of any negotiated resolution with Ukraine.
Posted by: Matt || 04/15/2022 9:38 Comments || Top||

#12  ^ What are you talking about? Sanctions hurt people everywhere around the world, including the American public. The only people benefiting from sanctions are private traders and corrupt American politicians such as the president and his family.

The biggest losers from the sanctions are two groups: the half a billion desperately poor people in Asia, the Middke East and Africa who depend on Russian wheat and other exports for survival, and millions of Americans who are now becoming poor. Of course the sanctions must be lifted as part of any settlement. They are a foolish and counterproductive, blunt instrument that never should have been wielded in the first place.
Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 10:01 Comments || Top||

#13  So the sanctions are hurting Putin?
Posted by: Matt || 04/15/2022 10:08 Comments || Top||

#14  Putin has entered your head. You are so obsessed with him that you cannot even see what is before your eyes. Again: sanctions are hurting the American public and will cause at least 10 million people to starve across the global South.

The world outside of America and Europe doesn't care about Putin or Zelensky. They care intensely about evading or breaking the foolish US sanctions. For scores of governments and billions of people, overcoming these sanctions is a matter of survival.
Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 10:19 Comments || Top||

#15  Call me crazy but I don't like/trust allies that invade neighbors and threaten everyone with nukes.

We should build stronger trade connections with India and weaker with China and let the Europeans figure out Russia.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/15/2022 10:22 Comments || Top||

#16  #14 You didn't answer my question, but never mind. What about the sanctions is preventing Russia from selling wheat and fertilizer to China and from there to points south?
Posted by: Matt || 04/15/2022 10:31 Comments || Top||

#17  @Slineling: Don't feed the troll.
Posted by: Jaimble Bluetooth4081 || 04/15/2022 10:42 Comments || Top||

#18  Don't feed the troll.

:-)
It never ceases to astonish me how ignorant so many Americans - including US policymakers - are regarding how US sanctions backfire on America again and again.
Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 10:47 Comments || Top||

#19  ^. Can’t see the trees thru the forest.
Posted by: Xyz || 04/15/2022 10:53 Comments || Top||

#20  Ridiculous crazy talk. China is a trusted trading partner. [sarc off]

Everything we hear Biden accusing Putin of doing, Xi has done even more. But Xi is rich and powerful while Putin is poor and weak and Biden is chickenshit.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/15/2022 11:49 Comments || Top||

#21  China is so awful they basically declared war on their own city, Shanghai, which will lead to extraordinary suffering.
Posted by: Lord Garth || 04/15/2022 12:13 Comments || Top||

#22  The tectonic plates of the Old World Order (Post WWII Cold War) are drift, as the American bulwark has become suicidal internally, and dead broke as it consumes itself with lunatic cultural BS, delusional, profligate spending, and compromised, inept leadership. New and emergent foreign power centers are casting about for a new web of alliances that offer benefit and security. Astride all this the Middle Kingdom seems ascendant (if vulnerable to food, energy and foreign markets) and focused on massive expansion.

In contrast, Washington seems run by cloaked Marxist fools, the gay lobby, minority/union stakeholders and the Obama minions for whom every decision must be corrosive to Traditional America.

India, Brazil, and other historic non-aligned nations and perhaps the sane Middle Eastern players are considering realignment even as Iran and Pakistan collude, and Putin is driving Russian into fealty with China and isolation in his maniacal determination to finish somehow a massive mistake (witness the Stalinesque decapitation of the FSB and now his Army leadership) in Ukraine.

At this moment of turmoil and global leadership opportunity the US is economically crippled, invaded, culturally conflicted and led by the most inept, corrupt, cowardly concentration of clueless politicians in our modern history. I cannot see the horizon but there is a damn big set of icebergs out there and Jojo has the bridge...
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 04/15/2022 12:23 Comments || Top||

#23  US will leave NATO. Its death has been artificially postponed, and we all know how that ends.

USA needs: Prompt Global Strike, more Block (latest) Virginias, Columbias (more than 12) GBSD, LRSO and a shock collar program for the DoS kids and their think tank enablers. Tightly controlled borders (not just south) and repurpose USAID into an agency charged with paying down the US National Debt.

Thus endeth the Rantlet.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 12:45 Comments || Top||

#24  #21 Lord Garth, Xi's recent actions on Shanghai, most likely due to the ‘Shanghai Gang’ seeking Xi’s ouster rather than COVID, right? Anticipating/hopeful to see the Chinese people rise up against Xi, if the CCP army ever turns on Xi having family in Shanghai.
Watching very closely as it is hard to continue seeing these atrocities occur without any ramifications.
Posted by: Jan || 04/15/2022 14:04 Comments || Top||

#25  Never read any Mearshimer. The trolls' drooling infatuation insures I never will.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 14:44 Comments || Top||

#26  I’ve been arguing that China is about to crash into demographic and financial walls. Lawrence Person at Battleswarm Blog makes the argument better and with more data. Some of his many points:

  • They were going shrink in half by 2100. “Then they realized that they had been overcounting people for some time.” Then new data moved the date moved up to 2070. And now they’re saying it will be 2050. “For that to be true, the Chinese would have overcounted the population by 100 million.” And all of those missing people are of childbearing age.

  • Their population actually peaked 15 years ago.

  • “China isn’t getting rich, it’s getting old.” They’re facing demographic collapse within a decade.

  • “All of the economic growth we have seen in China since 2006 is because of debt.”

  • Corporate debt is 350% of GDP, “making China the most indebted country in human history in both absolute and relative terms.” Every country that’s come within half of this has collapsed under the debt load.

  • Russia is the world’s second largest oil exporter, and it can’t export more to China because the pipes that go east don’t interconnect with the ones that go west. “The rail lines are already beyond capacity.”

  • To get more oil to China: “You would have to build a fundamentally new infrastructure from the fields in northwest Siberia to Chinese population centers that is greater than the distance from Miami to Anchorage, most of which is through virgin territory that is very rugged. That’s a 10-year program minimum even with the Chinese building it.”
  • Posted by: trailing wife || 04/15/2022 14:52 Comments || Top||

    #27  Reality is never allowed to conflict with The Beautiful Story.
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 15:06 Comments || Top||

    #28  ^ Good post, tw. And another reason why our recent visitors' theory that "Russia doesn't need the West because it can just do business with China instead" is delusional misinformed.
    Posted by: Matt || 04/15/2022 15:12 Comments || Top||

    #29  Derp.
    Posted by: Neville Unusong6965 || 04/15/2022 19:25 Comments || Top||


    The West Needs WWIII – Martin Armstrong
    [USAWatchDog] Legendary financial and geopolitical cycle analyst Martin Armstrong thinks the New World Order’s so-called "Great Reset" plan for humanity now needs war to try and make it work. It could happen in the next few weeks. Armstrong explains, "What they are trying to do is deliberately poke the bear. . . . They are increasing the pressure on just about everything under the sun. The West needs World War III. They just need it. The real problem here is they went to negative interest rates in 2014 in Europe. They have been unable to stimulate the economy, and Keynesian economics have completely failed. . . . I would say this is mismanagement of government on a global scale. The problem is that central banks have no control over the economy. Add to this, this type of inflation is substantially different than a speculative boom.

    This inflation is based upon shortages. These morons with covid . . . with lockdowns, ended up destroying the supply chains. . . . Things that are there, I buy extra of because next time it might be gone. So, everybody is increasing their hoarding. . . . So, what we have with Europe, with its negative interest rates, they have wiped out all the pension funds. They need 8% to break even, not negative rates. There is not a pension fund in Europe that is solvent at this stage of the game. . . . The European government is collapsing. If they end up defaulting, you are going to have millions of people down there with pitch forks storming the parliament. So, to avoid that, they need war. . . . The Biden Administration has deliberately destroyed the world economy."
    Posted by: Besoeker || 04/15/2022 00:40 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  The biggest plans require the most sacrifice by you.
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 8:16 Comments || Top||

    #2  Well, the Junta certainly does.
    Posted by: Rex Mundi || 04/15/2022 11:54 Comments || Top||

    #3  LOL.
    What is this fucking garbage.
    Posted by: Neville Unusong6965 || 04/15/2022 19:26 Comments || Top||

    #4  Spoon feeder for the end of the world crew
    Posted by: Omaing Stalag1261 || 04/15/2022 23:53 Comments || Top||


    ‘Unboxing’ of captured Russian ‘Orlan’
    [YouTube] Ukrainian defense force Operator Starsky, "Unbox" a captured Orlan which Russia claims is fully Russian made and is reportedly between USD $87,000 to USD $120,000.

    The results of what they find is hilarious.
    Posted by: DarthVader || 04/15/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  The US used to kludge together things that worked before the DOD
    Posted by: magpie || 04/15/2022 0:30 Comments || Top||

    #2  LevAndropov: [annoyed] Components. American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!
    Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/15/2022 8:59 Comments || Top||


    Ukraine war is a 'perfect storm,' threatening food, energy, and debt crises across the globe: UN report
    Posted by: Skidmark || 04/15/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats

    #1  US sanctions and US policy are making everything a hundred times worse. They are dragging the nonwestern world into one of the West's civil wars - and ensuring that the war, and the world's pain, lasts as long and are as harsh as possible.

    This policy is nothing short of sadistic.

    Instead of ending the war and ensuring the flow of wheat, fertilizer, gas and oil to the 60% of the world that depends upon Russian exports to feed itself, the US is determined to prolong the war for years or even decades.
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 9:52 Comments || Top||

    #2  So Putin is willing to allow Ukrainian wheat to be exported through the Black Sea, and only the US is stopping him?
    Posted by: Matt || 04/15/2022 9:56 Comments || Top||

    #3  Why are you obsessed with Putin? It's your own country's senile and corrupt leader who is causing millions of innocents around the world to starve.

    Americans do not have any idea of the havoc and ruin that their stupid sanctions cause. US sanctions do nothing to change the leaders' behavior or calculations and only end up causing the general public to hate America.

    Indians have not forgotten the brutal and punitive US sanctions that the Clinton Administration imposed on us - for the crime of wanting to develop our own independent foreign policy with our own nukes.

    Now America is doing it again, ensuring that another generation of Indians will bitterly resent America and that India will remain neutral whenever the US comes begging for support in its crusade against Russia.
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 10:13 Comments || Top||

    #4  Again, you didn't answer my simple and direct question. As a humanitarian gesture to the third world why not let Ukraine export wheat through the Black Sea? Is Putin Russia willing to allow that?
    Posted by: Matt || 04/15/2022 10:41 Comments || Top||

    #5  The global South doesn't need your "humanitarian gestures." The nations of the South are willing and able to pay for Russian wheat. If the senile American elephant would just get out of our way and stop hammering us with its foolish sanctions and ruinous trade policies, we could easily feed our people.
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 11:07 Comments || Top||

    #6  SC: Don't feed the troll.
    Posted by: Jaimble Bluetooth4081 || 04/15/2022 11:11 Comments || Top||

    #7  Win friends and influence the Swedes and Finns with nuclear blackmail. I could care less others think is in 'our' interests.
    Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/15/2022 11:12 Comments || Top||

    #8  To clarify - for the non-trolls - "the senile American elephant" comment refers to stupid US policymakers. We are eternally grateful to Norman Borlaug, the brilliant American agronomist whose breakthroughs enabled us to more than double our food production in the 1960s. We wish there were more Americans like Borlaug and fewer like Biden and Clinton.
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 11:18 Comments || Top||

    #9  I could care less others think is in 'our' interests.

    You mean you couldn't care less? This helps explain why US policy makers keep getting away with policies that are so obviously against US interests. When other nations tell you that invading Iraq or meddling all over the world will only lead to trillions of your money wasted and hundreds of thousands of people killed - including 10,000 or more US boys - you don't listen to them.

    The same goes for your stupid, reflexive sanctions policy. Your sanctions will blow back and crush your economy. Your own economists are now predicting that the dollar will probably lose its reserve currency status over the next decade or so. When it does you will lose your economic warfare stick with which you threaten other nations.

    If you were trying to shrink your influence in the world, you could not do a better job than with these self-destructive policies.
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 11:30 Comments || Top||

    #10  What others think is in 'our' interests.

    Hell, there's a term for it: concern troll
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 11:56 Comments || Top||

    #11  blah blah, sanctions blowback..reserve currency...economy destroyed...blah blah

    get some new apocalyptic talking points, k?
    Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2022 12:07 Comments || Top||

    #12  My concern is for India. I just find it astonishing how willing Americans are to support Biden's policies. He's clearly destroying American wealth and influence in the world. Why do Americans support this?
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 12:09 Comments || Top||

    #13  We wish there were more Americans like Borlaug and fewer like Biden and Clinton.

    Don't we all?
    Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/15/2022 12:12 Comments || Top||

    #14  Guess the sanctions must be working, the trolls are squealing. If you want to see one small reason why, look at the Orlan-10 drone teardown elsewhere on the 'burg.
    Posted by: Nero || 04/15/2022 12:14 Comments || Top||

    #15  I just find it astonishing how willing Americans are to support Biden's policies. He's clearly destroying American wealth and influence in the world. Why do Americans support this?

    It's called the Main Stream Media. It's kind of like a mushroom factory. They keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit.
    Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/15/2022 12:14 Comments || Top||

    #16  He's clearly destroying American wealth and influence in the world. Why do Americans support this?

    Biden is destroying everyone's wealth (except his family's). That blithering idiot created hyperinflation and now he's going to cause a global recession.

    I agree with the American congressman who said there should be regime change in Washington.
    Posted by: Jaimble Bluetooth4081 || 04/15/2022 12:15 Comments || Top||

    #17  However, for the record, Biden's ratings are down to something like 35 percent favorability. Also remember that many irregularities were reported in the 2020 election which is why many Americans call him President *. And then there is the centerpiece of his agenda, the Build Back Better legislation, that went down in flames in the US Senate. So the claim that Americans support Biden's policies is not strictly true. It's more like we're stuck with his policies until we get rid of him either with impeachment, the 25th Amendment or the 2024 election.
    Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/15/2022 12:27 Comments || Top||

    #18  This place is crawling with Biden trolls. No one who sees what a shithead the US has in the White House would support his policies.

    Least of all Trump supporters... if Trump were still in the White House this war would never have happened. Trump is a rational businessman who never would have dreamed of trying to shut down an economy that supplies most of the world with its essential commodities.
    Posted by: Jaimble Bluetooth4081 || 04/15/2022 12:27 Comments || Top||

    #19  #18 This place is crawling with Biden trolls

    Either you're being deliberately obtuse, or an idiot. There's not a single real poster here defending Biden
    Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2022 12:29 Comments || Top||

    #20  That's laughable. You support his stupid foreign policies to the letter. He's deliberately prolonging the war so he can grind down the US economy and impose more control on you. Only a troll would be so stupid as to fail to see what he's doing.
    Posted by: Phinegum Smith7698 || 04/15/2022 12:39 Comments || Top||

    #21  Rantburg: We even love Joe Biden™

    /sarc
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 12:40 Comments || Top||

    #22  Now America is doing it again, ensuring that another generation of Indians will bitterly resent America and that India will remain neutral...

    Maybe you Indians will stay home then and stop coming here.
    Posted by: Ebbatch Dark Lord of the Hemps6848 || 04/15/2022 13:02 Comments || Top||

    #23  ^There are those of us who want nothing more. Leftists here call us nazis.
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 13:10 Comments || Top||

    #24  ^ By that I meant us Americans staying home.
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 13:10 Comments || Top||

    #25  Oddly enough, India appears to have the world's highest tariffs on agricultural products. And is a wheat exporter. But I stand to be corrected on either point.
    Posted by: Matt || 04/15/2022 13:19 Comments || Top||

    #26  Putin doesn't care what the world thinks. Xi doesn't care what the world thinks. That is the attitude America needs to take. They're never going to love you, quit wasting your resources and money.
    Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/15/2022 14:03 Comments || Top||

    #27  if Trump were still in the White House this war would never have happened.

    Exactly. Trump's policies would have kept oil prices low and would have threatened Putin with nukes if he invaded while working with Putin to expand Russian influence in Asia to help contain the Chinese and combat Islamists and the Taliban. What a missed opportunity that was.
    Posted by: Phinegum Smith7698 || 04/15/2022 14:18 Comments || Top||

    #28  ^ This is essentially what John Mearsheimer has been arguing for - a policy based on realism instead of wishful thinking and liberal imperialist nonsense.

    Russia would have been a key part of Trump's containment strategy for China. Instead the Biden people are spouting all the old Obama and Clinton bullshit about how "the democracies" are fighting "authoritarian" regimes... as if Ukraine's one-party dictator is a "democrat."

    No one outside Washington or London takes this rhetoric seriously.
    Posted by: Jaimble Bluetooth4081 || 04/15/2022 14:24 Comments || Top||

    #29  To those of us who have been suffering from Obama and his puppet Biden for a lot longer than the last two years, the concern troll shit here is laughable. The Obambiden Collective has been the one who's been exporting American industry to, among others, Putin's oligarghy, which uses the resulting wealth to make war and fund trolls who blame Biden for... some pissant sanctions.

    They're concerned about India? Here, take a hint: Sri Lanka is now bankrupt not because of Biden but because the local Chinese-appointed puppet decided to destroy agriculture there. They slept through it while having a wet dream about Putin. Same situation wrt Lebanon. Hezbollah, who's Putin's and Iran's proxies, have bankrupted the country and blown up a major part of Beiruit along the way.

    Biden pretends to fight Putin and Putin and his trolls pretend to fight Biden, but it's all kayfabe. Meanwhile, Putin's the one who's wearing down the Russian military when he should have been spending his 200 billion dollar personal fortune on new tires. He's good at manipulating his western puppets while pretending to fight them and paying trolls to blame them for the consequences but not good at _actual military operations_.
    Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 04/15/2022 15:10 Comments || Top||

    #30  I could care less others think is in 'our' interests.

    You mean you couldn't care less?


    Idiomatically, both mean exactly the same thing. Like our spelling and irregular grammar, designed to trip up non-native speakers into trying to parse the unparseable.

    ensuring that another generation of Indians will bitterly resent America and that India will remain neutral...

    Neutral would be lovely after all those decades of Socialist India siding with the Soviet Union while claiming to be neutral. Much as I love India —between all my parents’ Indian friends, Rudyard Kipling (sorry, I know y’all hate that, but I fell in love with India while reading Kim), and Mr. Wife’s wonderful experience working over there in 1990-‘91 — India will ever be only for India. Which is fine — as Rabbi Hillel said, “If I am not for myself, who will be for me?”, but it would be nice if other countries accorded us the same rather than threatening to stop liking us if we don’t do their bidding' even as so many of their best and brightest so eagerly emigrate to our shoes.
    Posted by: trailing wife || 04/15/2022 15:11 Comments || Top||

    #31  John Mearsheimer is the only US foreign policy expert left (except Kissinger) who still talks sense. He says the US goals were to create a western "bulwark" next to Russia's capital by incorporating Ukraine into NATO and to make InrIne into an EU liberal democracy. Mearsheimer has said that Putin's goals all along have been to thwart the above -- by "wrecking" (Mearsheimer's term) Ukraine.

    This is exactly what has happened. At least 1/4 of Ukraine's infrastructure has been obiterated. By end of summer 3/4 of Ukraine (outside of Donbas) will be obliterated. As to the other goals, NATO membership is out of the question and Ukraine is now a one-party dictatorship.

    It's a pity that John Mearsheimer is not advising US policy. The world would have been spared a great deal. Ukraine would be neutral and at peace. The US would still be prosperous and free, and would have gained an extremely valuable partner with which to completely encircle and contain the only real threat to the US... which, as Mearsheimer tried to remind the Washington lunatics, is Chjna.
    Posted by: Jaimble Bluetooth4081 || 04/15/2022 15:55 Comments || Top||

    #32  @trailingwife - thank you for this courteous reminiscence.

    I fell in love with India while reading Kim

    A lovely and cruel country that has broken many hearts.

    wonderful experience working over there in 1990-‘91

    A time of great hope - expectations of change for the better... most of them unrealized (see above)

    India will ever be only for India. Which is fine

    As any sensible human ought to be

    Kipling...

    "Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
    Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat;
    But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
    When two strong men stand face to face, tho' they come from the ends of the earth!"
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 16:40 Comments || Top||

    #33  Re. Kim, if you'd like a glimpse of how beautiful India was before it was industrialized, see the 1950s Hollywood version of Kim with (I think) Errol Flynn as Mahbub Ali the undercover English spy / horse trader. The colors oddly seem right.

    Flynn or whoever plays Mahbub Ali very well. The whole thing is nicely done. India was astonishingly beautiful back then.
    Posted by: Slineling Chusong5031 || 04/15/2022 16:47 Comments || Top||

    #34  John Mearsheimer is the only voice that speaks what you WANT to hear. Please
    Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2022 19:05 Comments || Top||

    #35  We are eternally grateful to

    So you couldn't figure it out for yourselves?
    There's probably some political royalty due for that.
    Posted by: Skidmark || 04/15/2022 22:26 Comments || Top||


    Briefly about the RFS cruiser Moskva
    Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
    [Chernovec] The Russian military released an official report on the situation with the cruiser

    - The source of ignition on the cruiser "Moskva" is localized.
    - There is no open burning.
    - Explosions of ammunition are stopped.
    - Cruiser "Moskva" remains afloat.
    - The main missile weapons were not damaged
    - The crew was evacuated to the ships of the Black Sea Fleet in the area.
    - Currently, measures are being taken to tow the cruiser to the port. (Sevastopol)

    From Russian military journalist Boris Rozhin:
    The cruiser "Moscow" sank

    [ColonelCassad] The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that the cruiser "Moskva" sank. They were not able to drag them to Sevastopol:

    During the towing of the cruiser "Moskva" to the port of destination due to damage to the hull received during the fire from the detonation of ammunition, the ship lost stability. The ship sank in a stormy sea.

    The crew was evacuated on the ships of the Black Sea Fleet.

    Posted by: badanov || 04/15/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  Schrodinger's Cat Cruiser? Sunk and floating at the same time?
    Posted by: magpie || 04/15/2022 0:28 Comments || Top||



    #4  If anyone noticed, not one article about the Moskva being hit by antiship missiles was from neither the Russian Ministry of Defense, nor the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, nor the Ukrainian general staff.

    All the sources for the missile strike stories have come from unnamed Ukrainian politicians, or from sources outside the Ukrainian military.

    In the Ukrainian roundup article originally posted by korrespondent.net, the Moskva is mentioned 13 times, and in none of those mentons are sourced from the Ukrainian military.
    Posted by: badanov || 04/15/2022 7:58 Comments || Top||

    #5  Either way badanov, the Russians have to go with either they can't defend their own flagship from a country that has almost no navy, or they lost their own flagship due to incompetence.

    Neither are a good look for projecting military power and strength.
    Posted by: DarthVader || 04/15/2022 8:58 Comments || Top||

    #6  DM's contribution:
    Posted by: Mercutio || 04/15/2022 9:14 Comments || Top||

    #7  they can't defend their own flagship from a country that has almost no navy

    BLUF: You do not need a navy to kill a ship

    The "almost no navy" meme is quickly becoming popular despite being nonsense. There is an old naval axiom, "A ship's a fool that fights a fort" referring to the advantages that accrue to the land-based side in a battle.

    Nowadays, serious ship-killing is done with missiles instead of guns. In addition to being launched from warships, missiles can launched from planes, from land by fixed installations or mobile launchers, or even by hand. There are reports of ships hit by infantry anti-tank missiles. No navy required. "Missiles - they blow stuff up good!"
    Posted by: SteveS || 04/15/2022 9:38 Comments || Top||

    #8  How deep is it sunk? Can they prevent the US Navy from harvesting intelligence from the hulk?
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 9:52 Comments || Top||

    #9  A far better headline for this post would have been
    Cruiser "Moskva" sank
    Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 04/15/2022 9:56 Comments || Top||

    #10  How deep is it sunk? Can they prevent the US Navy from harvesting intelligence from the hulk?

    The area around there is all continental shelf, so 500 meters max is the depth. No where close to deep enough.
    Posted by: DarthVader || 04/15/2022 10:05 Comments || Top||

    #11  The Ukes are certainly getting a lot of mileage out of those Bayractor drones.
    Posted by: ed in texas || 04/15/2022 10:11 Comments || Top||

    #12  The Daily Mail links do not report a source.
    Posted by: badanov || 04/15/2022 10:38 Comments || Top||

    #13  Drone swarms are so easy to launch. A squad of infantrymen would be very hard pressed to quickly distinguish a swarm of dirt cheap drones bought at a DIY store from drones that could kill all of them. I wonder if this ploy won't become popular in war zones.
    Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 04/15/2022 10:39 Comments || Top||

    #14  The "almost no navy" meme is quickly becoming popular despite being nonsense. There is an old naval axiom, "A ship's a fool that fights a fort" referring to the advantages that accrue to the land-based side in a battle.

    IIRC some backwater Houthis hit a number of *cough* Saudi ships.

    Silkworms in the Suez?

    Syracuse held off Rome "without almost no Navy", and what was they had, was latched and reefed to prevent port entry.

    How many ships did the Allies lose trying to force the Dardanelles in WWI? That's, WW1 for you Tiktokrs.

    Rhodes? Constantinople? Baltimore? History is nearly completely on the side of adequate coastal defense vs. Navy.

    As the weapons systems have become more portable, more accurate, and more range, coastal operations become dicier and dicier; if and how much is true, what raises my eyebrows would be the defeat of detection and CIWS systems defenses.
    Posted by: swksvolFF || 04/15/2022 10:45 Comments || Top||

    #15  #12 The Daily Mail links do not report a source.

    The British tabloids' usual source for tendentious rumors, lies and unconfirmed bullshit about foreign affairs is the British intelligence community (MI6 or MI5).
    Posted by: Ulang Poodle6981 || 04/15/2022 10:53 Comments || Top||

    #16  After the Ukrainian defenders knocked out the missile cruiser Moskva, the total number of cruise missiles of the Russian Black Sea Fleet ships in the Black Sea decreased from 72 to 56, BlackSeaNews reports.
    Posted by: Pliny Ebbineling4240 || 04/15/2022 10:59 Comments || Top||

    #17  The RFS Kerch, a 9,800 ton Kara class missile cruiser in Sevastopol was damaged by fire in 2014. It never returned to service. It was scrapped in 2020.

    The Russians have a problem with fires aboard their vessels and with damage control practices.
    Posted by: badanov || 04/15/2022 11:17 Comments || Top||

    #18  The problem with the "it wuz an accident" scenario is that the first item I saw this week re: the Moskva was Wednesday afternoon, with a report that the Ukranians had severly damaged it with a missile, with all the "we had an ammo fire accident" reports coming afterwards.
    Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 04/15/2022 11:36 Comments || Top||

    #19  And that is my point. The source for the cruise missile claims were all Ukrainian private sources, not the Ukrainian high command.
    Posted by: badanov || 04/15/2022 11:43 Comments || Top||

    #20 
    Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2022 13:22 Comments || Top||

    #21  Sunk and floating at the same time?

    When you're up you're up
    When you're down you're down
    And when you're only halfway-up...
    Posted by: swksvolFF || 04/15/2022 13:44 Comments || Top||

    #22  My, my my, fl-oat-ah...
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 13:51 Comments || Top||

    #23  Badanov, why did the Ukranian hoaxers know to put out that the Ukranians launched a missile strike coincidentally the morning of the day it turns out later that the mine or the fire-they-set-to-kill-the-spider got out of hand and away from their damage control and sunk the ship? Isn't that kind of a big coincidence?

    They haven't been claiming they sunk the Moskva every day for the past three weeks and finally got it right by coincidence.
    Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 04/15/2022 17:33 Comments || Top||

    #24  so 500 meters max is the depth.

    How much in real feet?
    Posted by: Skidmark || 04/15/2022 22:52 Comments || Top||


    Economy
    Obama economist Steve Rattner says Biden's $1.9trillion American Rescue Plan will 'go down in history as an extraordinary policy mistake' that has put the U.S. 'behind the curve' on skyrocketing inflation
    Posted by: Skidmark || 04/15/2022 06:18 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  depends on who writes history


    and, btw, the Modern Monetary Theory devotees are not conceding anything --- blaming inflation on 'unique and unforeseeable circumstances.
    Posted by: Lord Garth || 04/15/2022 7:19 Comments || Top||

    #2  Bad Luck™
    Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2022 7:26 Comments || Top||

    #3  Shade from the Bath House regime. No honor among thieves?
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/15/2022 8:13 Comments || Top||

    #4  Reminds me when Barney Frank went up in front of committee and 'testified against the bank bailouts' even though he was right in the middle of it, to be in front of the story.
    Posted by: swksvolFF || 04/15/2022 10:04 Comments || Top||

    #5  Allowing Biden to take office was the extraordinary policy mistake of American history -- one the USA may not survive. Many once respected US institutions had their hand in that mistake of all mistakes.
    Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 04/15/2022 10:16 Comments || Top||

    #6  Spend, spend, spend,"President Biden approves $800M in artillery, helicopters for Ukraine". Every week and where is he getting all this money. I wonder how Biden trickle down economics will work.
    Posted by: Dale || 04/15/2022 11:55 Comments || Top||

    #7  News for you Bubba, the old republic died decades ago. The concentration of power has far exceeded the point where it can be saved. We're at the point where the Founders wrote Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security.
    We might get a second republic but only through blood and tears cause those with the power will not go willingly.
    Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/15/2022 15:35 Comments || Top||



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