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2011-03-20 Home Front: Politix
Obama Finally Has His Own War
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Posted by tipper 2011-03-20 02:40|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 given his track record, we can expect a losing debacle. Here is for hoping that the odds of the coin finally turning up heads will prevail.
Posted by Martini 2011-03-20 06:14||   2011-03-20 06:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Sad when even the Germans understand him. Of course this is really the EUs war (see French) and bammer is just trying to hop on to burnish his self esteem. Needs to prove to himself that he's a REAL leader.
Posted by AlanC 2011-03-20 07:37||   2011-03-20 07:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Sad when even the Germans understand him.

They "understood" Adolf Hitler as well. Didn't gain them a great deal however, in the end.
Posted by Besoeker on the road again 2011-03-20 07:49||   2011-03-20 07:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Then came the most important part of the speech: why the US should get involved. "Now, here is why this matters to us," said Obama, sounding a bit like a math teacher explaining a problem to his students. "The calls of the Libyan people for help would go unanswered. The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun. Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow." In other words, America is prepared to go to war over such concerns.

Sounds like his predecessor. My irony meter exploded.
Posted by Bobby 2011-03-20 08:09||   2011-03-20 08:09|| Front Page Top

#5 It would of been great if Obama wears his Nobel Peace prize at the next press conference to talk about the war.
Posted by airandee 2011-03-20 08:32||   2011-03-20 08:32|| Front Page Top

#6 But the EUroweenies gave him the Nobel Peace Prize before he even did anything. Even he didnt know what it was actually for.

Yasser Arafat got one too.( maybe he got two) Did Jimmuh Caahtuh get one, I forget.

It gives a deeper meaning to a box of Cracker Jacks, dont you agree?

And then..... it was off to Rio.
Posted by  Dribble2716 2011-03-20 09:30||   2011-03-20 09:30|| Front Page Top

#7 From what i hear/read he didnt fancy it! Hillary is the driving force behind this!
Posted by Angeretle Snore6772 2011-03-20 09:53||   2011-03-20 09:53|| Front Page Top

#8 given his track record, we can expect a losing debacle.

Perhaps but given his weak, spineless & extremely impatient nature I doubt he'll have the stomach for a long engagement. I expect the losing debacle to take the form of a quick loss followed by an even quicker exit and a loud proclamation of victory. Alternatively, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he were to perceive the use of overwhelming force as a kind of antidote to his domestic image as a wimp and if he were therefore to go all-in. I doubt there will be much middle ground, he doesn't have the character to go there.
Posted by AzCat 2011-03-20 10:35||   2011-03-20 10:35|| Front Page Top

#9 It would seem that at some point Gadaffi will have to be targeted or he will follow through on his threats in the future, i.e. shooting down airliners, disrupting shipping in the Mediterranean, and terrorism.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-03-20 10:50||   2011-03-20 10:50|| Front Page Top

#10 "It would seem that at some point Gadaffi will have to be targeted"

That point was a couple of decades years weeks ago, John, but NOW would be better than nothing.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-03-20 10:54||   2011-03-20 10:54|| Front Page Top

#11 Congress does not need to approve the US action, because it is not an official declaration of war.


War Powers Resolution of 1973
1541. Purpose and policy
(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to
(1) a declaration of war,
(2) specific statutory authorization, or
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.


Well...Obama got one outta three anyway.
Posted by DepotGuy 2011-03-20 11:04||   2011-03-20 11:04|| Front Page Top

#12 via RSM:
“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”
— Sen. Barack Obama, Dec. 20, 2007
Posted by Frank G 2011-03-20 11:14||   2011-03-20 11:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Obama got none out of three. Wiffed.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-03-20 11:27||   2011-03-20 11:27|| Front Page Top

#14 "Obama . . . Wiffed."

That's our Bambi, NS.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-03-20 11:37||   2011-03-20 11:37|| Front Page Top

#15 The calls of the Libyan people for help would go unanswered.

What about Bahraini, Yemeni, Syrian, and Iranian people?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-20 13:13||   2011-03-20 13:13|| Front Page Top

#16 Yeah, g(r)om, what about them?
/sarc

O has pi$$ed off our enemies (well, that's a given) and he has pi$$ed off our allies.

He has pi$$ed off everyone, so in that dept he is consistent.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2011-03-20 14:50||   2011-03-20 14:50|| Front Page Top

#17 The endgame is probably Egypt 'liberates' the eastern half of Libya plus the bits with the oil.

It would be kind of fitting to leave Daffy with a rump, piss poor Libya to rule over.
Posted by phil_b 2011-03-20 21:02||   2011-03-20 21:02|| Front Page Top

#18 I don't care about the Middle East anymore. Rot in hell f-ers and f-ettes.
Posted by Fi 2011-03-20 21:16||   2011-03-20 21:16|| Front Page Top

#19 "OBAMA'S WAR"

versus

* PEOPLE'S DAILY FORUM > [US SecDef] GATES: US EXPECTS TO HAND OFF LIBYA LEAD IN "DAYS", most likely to France, UK, or combined NATO].

* WAFF >[US State Dept]TURKEY WILL SERVE AS PROTECTING POWER FOR THE US IN LIBYA, US STATE DEPT. OFFICIALS TOLD CNN ON SUNDAY. Protection of Americans in Libyuh, + as a quasi-US Station for regular Diplomatic-Embassy services.

Until further notice.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > GADDAFI" LIBYA READY FOR A "LONG, GLORIOUS WAR" ["Long War" widout Limits].

Aka protractive "UNLIMITED WAR" - Jeebus, haven't heard or used this term in a long while.

* NEWS KERALA > [Gaddafi's Boyz]LIBYAN ARMY SAYS 48 KILLED IN [NFZ]STRIKES [circa 150 Wounded], REBELS FEAR [use of] CHEMICAL WEAPONS as per their discovery of allhehed Internationally outlawed/illegal CHEMWEAPS at a former Gaddafi arms depot near Benina Airport in Benghazi.

* Also from NEWS KERALA > FRENCH AIRCRAFT CARRIER LEAVES FOR LIBYA.

The infamous, "RELIABLE-PROPELLERS-ARE-ANTI-GREEN-HENCE-FOR-WUSSY-BRITISH-NAVAL-SHIPS", FNS CV CHARLES DE GAULLE.

"Propeller-Gate" Net betting pools have begun on whether the Chuck's Props will surrender once again.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-03-21 00:06||   2011-03-21 00:06|| Front Page Top

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