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2010-05-11 Economy
The Amazing Carelessness Of ObamaCare
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Posted by Beavis 2010-05-11 09:23|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 How about you goddamn bastards read the fucking thing next time?

Better yet, let's vote you out and ship you to Iran.
Posted by DarthVader 2010-05-11 11:18||   2010-05-11 11:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Come-on Darth, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel...

Notice how they try to shift the blame on the Scott Brown win? Why if he hadn't win then we wouldn't be in this sorry mess....

And of course your right - they didn't even read the farking thing. Just sign on the dotted line. And now they find out they are the proud owners of worthless desert land in Nevada.
Posted by CrazyFool 2010-05-11 11:30||   2010-05-11 11:30|| Front Page Top

#3 It was never about healthcare. Progressives have been working toward this for nearly a century. This is their ultimate goal and many were willing to commit political suicide to enact this with the bet that it couldn't be undone. Others were so lacking in character they couldn't put resistence. But the Dems never counted on the Tea Party.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2010-05-11 11:40||   2010-05-11 11:40|| Front Page Top

#4 And now we they find out we they are the proud owners of worthless desert land in Nevada.

FIFY.
Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2010-05-11 11:50||   2010-05-11 11:50|| Front Page Top

#5 The 1099 expansion isn't an effort "to catch tax cheats", it's foundation for a VAT.
Posted by AzCat 2010-05-11 12:30||   2010-05-11 12:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Employers with more than 50 workers could face big penalties even if they are trying to do the right thing by offering health insurance to their workers. For example, they could be fined $2,000 per worker if they fail to follow Washington's rules in providing "affordable" coverage. The way around that seems fairly simple. Employers offer no coverage, tell their employees their pay is being docked $2,000 to pay the government fine, if the employees don't like that, they are free to find other employment. My brother in MA is self-employed & has been paying the state fine (about $750) to NOT participate in MaxTaxCare.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-05-11 12:43||   2010-05-11 12:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Since Insurance providers can't deny coverage for pre-existing conditions I can see most people opting to pay the $750 fine (rather than the $7-10K insurance) and simply sign up for insurance when they need it (i.e. after they are diagnosed with something serious). And then dropping out again when / if they are cured.

I wish I could get auto-insurance after an having an accident and have them cover it.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-05-11 12:58||   2010-05-11 12:58|| Front Page Top

#8 CF, that's already happening in Massachusetts. Insurance companies are saddled with people signing up to get coverage for major medical only when they need it now.
Posted by mom 2010-05-11 13:06||   2010-05-11 13:06|| Front Page Top

#9 "But once Scott Brown won Massachusetts' special Senate election...the only way to get a bill to the president's desk was to have the House pass the Senate bill as is."

Bwwaahahahaha! This is great, now they're gonna blame it all on Scott Brown. Man, they're really grabbing at straws...keep it up guys, lookin good.
Posted by Keeney 2010-05-11 13:16||   2010-05-11 13:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Yep, Short-term customers boosting health costs
Posted by Beavis 2010-05-11 13:17||   2010-05-11 13:17|| Front Page Top

#11 "The administration's personnel office said it is basically going to ignore the law"

So what else is new?
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2010-05-11 13:26||   2010-05-11 13:26|| Front Page Top

#12 Beavis, thanks for your link, I found the article very interesting, as were its comments, one I liked a lot: there's no way to create a system that's foolproof. People with an sociopathic tendencies, including many corporate lawyers, are always going to find a way
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-05-11 13:51||   2010-05-11 13:51|| Front Page Top

#13 For example, small-business owners are telling members of Congress they are terrified about the risks the law presents to their ability to keep and hire workers -- imperiling the nation's already fragile economic recovery.

You get the feeling that the One is saying "Screw small business. We don't give a flip about their concerns. This is bigger. This is about my legacy. This is about getting a hold of the scrotum of business and squeezing hard."
Posted by JohnQC 2010-05-11 17:57||   2010-05-11 17:57|| Front Page Top

#14 It's much worse than that John: a few large businesses are easily controlled; orders of magnitude more small ones not so much. This is the intentional deep-sixing of small business in favor of a more easily controlled marketplace.

The present Democratic Party have essentially morphed into mid 1930s style European Corporatists. The Republican Party is, sadly, merely a pale shadow of the Democratic Party; Corporatist-lite if you will.

I predict this will end badly. How's that for going out on a limb? ;)
Posted by AzCat 2010-05-11 18:45||   2010-05-11 18:45|| Front Page Top

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