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2005-11-18 Fifth Column
“Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.”
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Posted by Glinemp Pholung8093 2005-11-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1  Your literature and signs in the entrance lobby look like fascist propaganda and is extremely offensive.

Since "literature and signs" is plural, shouldn't that be "are extremely offensive"? If an English professor can't handle subject/verb agreement, it's no wonder he is failing history, economics and logic too. Simply beyond parody.
Posted by SteveS 2005-11-18 01:07||   2005-11-18 01:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Fire this clown. If he isn't fired get any federal funding for the school the school withdrawn.
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2005-11-18 04:14||   2005-11-18 04:14|| Front Page Top

#3 No suprise, Its not only in NJ but it seems most colleges nowdays are crawling with douchebags like this guy.
Posted by JerseyMike 2005-11-18 07:37||   2005-11-18 07:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Steve,
Good catch!! That was way funny. I agree w/ both of you.Fire the ASSHAT or pull Fed. Funding!!!
Posted by ARMYGUY 2005-11-18 07:42||   2005-11-18 07:42|| Front Page Top

#5 And this is an either or question, why?

Fire the guy AND pull funding until the prove themselves worthy of it.
Posted by AlanC">AlanC  2005-11-18 07:49||   2005-11-18 07:49|| Front Page Top

#6 Fire him. Blackball him. He can hold any opinion he wants, but taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize his treason.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-11-18 07:57|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-11-18 07:57|| Front Page Top

#7 better yet...send him to Quantico let him exercise his free speech there.
Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2005-11-18 08:05||   2005-11-18 08:05|| Front Page Top

#8 The same type of thing happened at Washington State University. Only in this case the school bought tickets for hecklers and organized protests against a play by a student playwright.

They also impose a political litmus test where if a student expresses opinions outside the the 'social norm' (such as discussing hunting and being against gun control) can get you dismissed:

From:
Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) Hat tip Sound Politics.

Meanwhile, across the country, Washington State University’s treatment of Swan was providing a chilling example of why “dispositions” concerned Professor Johnson. When one professor specifically invited him to “write what you really feel” and “feel comfortable in class,” Swan did so. He noted, for example, that he is a “conservative Christian,” believes that “white privilege and male privilege do not exist,” and opposes gun control. Swan then received negative evaluations on “dispositions” commanding him to be “sensitive to community and cultural norms,” “appreciate[e] and valu[e] human diversity,” and “sho[w] respect for others’ varied talents and perspectives”—expressly because of his beliefs.

These poor evaluations led Washington State to subject Swan to diversity training and order him to sign an agreement to abide by all the “dispositions” to his professors’ satisfaction, under penalty of dismissal. After FIRE informed Washington State President V. Lane Rawlins that this agreement represented an unconstitutional loyalty oath—in this case, loyalty to the university’s approved political viewpoints—Washington State quickly agreed to rescind the requirement. It also later agreed not to use “dispositions” theory in an unconstitutional manner.

Free speech for me! But not for thee!
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-11-18 08:18||   2005-11-18 08:18|| Front Page Top

#9 The same type of thing happened at Washington State University./em>

Sig Heil! Sig Heil! Sig Heil!
Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2005-11-18 08:27||   2005-11-18 08:27|| Front Page Top

#10 Somebody know somebody at Warrren Community College? Because as soon as you open their webpage, this is what you get:

Press Release
November 17, 2005
Warren County Community College is a "students first" college where learning without limits is always the main goal. We maintain a mission of building a community of learners through accessible, quality learning opportunities designed to meet personal aspirations for all students.
It has been brought to the administration's attention that a part-time instructor, Mr. John Daly, speaking for himself and using his personal email, sent a message to a student representing the Young Americans for Freedom in response to a personal email from her requesting him to announce an upcoming event on the campus. Mr Daly responded to her alone, and expressed his own personal views regarding his beliefs about this group.
The viewpoints of this professor in no way depict the views of Warren County Community College, its administration, or the Board of Trustees. The College does however support the constitution, the first amendment, and the right to free speech.
Additionally, Mr. Daly's message was sent as a one-to-one message, via e-mail, to one person, and not to the college community. Finally, the College is viewing this message as a personnel issue and will be addressing it according to the policies and procedures of the College.
Dr. Austin, college president stated, "I firmly believe every employee and student has first amendment rights, no matter how repugnant I personally find Mr. Daly's statements. Our attorneys have advised us of our obligation to follow state laws, board policies, and college due process in regards to any personnel matter. We are now investigating this matter further."
Posted by tu3031 2005-11-18 09:03||   2005-11-18 09:03|| Front Page Top

#11 That is sedition, plain and clear. It is long past time that real consequences be tagged to the act. When anyone tries to argue that sedition is protected free speech, you know the line was cross too long ago. Time to start now, not just with a clear declaration that such acts will be prosecuted, but each and every act by the courts to rationalize such behavior will be met by actions of both the legislative and executive branch to insure that the judiciary understands that it will not be tolerated.
Posted by Ulineng Snumble9989 2005-11-18 09:31||   2005-11-18 09:31|| Front Page Top

#12 The left's mantra of "Free speech for me, but not for thee" is alive and well I see. I have an idea professor, let me turn my guns on you. Freedom is slavery after all in your mind.
Posted by mmurray821 2005-11-18 09:35||   2005-11-18 09:35|| Front Page Top

#13 So I guess what he is saying is there will never be real freedom until there is total anarchy. Interesting concept.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-11-18 09:40||   2005-11-18 09:40|| Front Page Top

#14 Not anarchy - control by people like him.
Posted by lotp 2005-11-18 09:53||   2005-11-18 09:53|| Front Page Top

#15 The response from the School Administration is especially alarming. They don’t see it as a big deal because: “Mr. Daly's message was sent as a one-to-one message, via e-mail, to one person, and not to the college community.” So I guess it’s ok to bash students as long as they are conservative? What a moronic view and this teacher need to be canned. If he had displayed a similar disposition with a protected class he would be collecting unemployment. It's funny that they have the cajones to call conservative Nazis, this episode sounds just like the Nazi in Germany.
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2005-11-18 10:38||   2005-11-18 10:38|| Front Page Top

#16 now can we question thier Patriotism????????????????????? If not WHEN????

Sedition is a crime in the Constitution its way past time we prosecute these people. Free speech doesnt involve Treason or Sedition.
Posted by C-Low 2005-11-18 10:42||   2005-11-18 10:42|| Front Page Top

#17 Time for more Tar and Feathers.
Posted by SR-71 2005-11-18 10:47||   2005-11-18 10:47|| Front Page Top

#18 I read the Administration's note as:

"Hey, we gotta get rid of this guy, he's a loose cannon. But we have to do it on the q-t and make it look like we're going thru channels, we don't wanna rile the rabid lefties."
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-11-18 10:49||   2005-11-18 10:49|| Front Page Top

#19 Your main poster "Communism killed 100,000,000" is not only untrue...

You tell 'em, perfesser! Couldn't have been more then 99,999,999 from what I saw...
Posted by The Ghost of Walter Duranty 2005-11-18 11:00||   2005-11-18 11:00|| Front Page Top

#20 "..But we have to do it on the q-t and make it look like we're going thru channels, we don't wanna rile the rabid lefties."

The lefties in the local community, or the lefties on the faculty?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-11-18 11:01||   2005-11-18 11:01|| Front Page Top

#21 Warren Community College English professor

No insult intentded to the good perfesser, but English at a community college? He's catering to two sets of students: those taking remedial high school English, and those who want an associate (sub-university) degree in Liberal Arts. For the most part, the first group is going to struggle with his material and the pace of the class; of the second group, a portion will never complete the program, and the remainder will have a really useless piece of paper. Two-year schools are good for the technical and business subjects, and foreign languages -- anything substantive-- and much less expensive than the universities, but I suspect the good perfesser is not at the top of his profession, ability-wise.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-11-18 11:38||   2005-11-18 11:38|| Front Page Top

#22 Yo, Rebecca,

Shut the Fuck Up, you conservative, war-mongering Technocrat Bitch.

Don't you know that we run the joint now?

Daly's speech is protected just like mine, and no matter what Nazis like you try to do to us, you're all to weak and stupid to do anything about it.

Just slink away and cower like the rest of your kind, because in the end, you'd rather look the other way than actually confront those of us who are fucking your country in the ass, right in front of your faces (damn it's fun to watch all you pussie flay yourselves about my rights as I undermine everything you jellyfish believe in).

Get used to being my bitch,

Ward Churchill
Posted by Hyper">Hyper  2005-11-18 12:26||   2005-11-18 12:26|| Front Page Top

#23 Good points, Hyper. Time for tar and feathers.
Posted by SR-71 2005-11-18 13:28||   2005-11-18 13:28|| Front Page Top

#24 John Daly's on the phone right now cementing his new book deal. They are running into a few glitches, since, as an English Professor, it's understood that he can't write.
Posted by 2b 2005-11-18 13:34||   2005-11-18 13:34|| Front Page Top

#25 Seafarious ..re: #18 Good point. I hope you are right.
Posted by 2b 2005-11-18 13:43||   2005-11-18 13:43|| Front Page Top

#26 Thanks SR-71. But tar and feathers don't cut it.

Ridicule and mock the Churchills and Dalys? Of Course. But the Churchill's and Daly's are a dime a dozen. They have always been around, and will never go away; after all, they're just doing what their angst-ridden pea brains tell them to do.

Everybody needs to go after the Administrators who are turning have turned our Universities into Leftist and Neo-Anarchist cesspools by hiring, promoting, and protecting these parsites.
Posted by Hyper">Hyper  2005-11-18 13:49||   2005-11-18 13:49|| Front Page Top

#27 what TW said.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-11-18 14:31||   2005-11-18 14:31|| Front Page Top

#28 The CC'es website response is a cop out. This asshole is a professor and, as such, has 'WARREN COMMUNITY COLLEGE' embazioned on his chest - particulary while he is teaching, on campus, and is asking students to boycott.... As a Tenured professor HE REPRESENTS THE COLLEGE.

The fact that he is overtly acting against her in the classroom.

I will continue to expose your right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like your won't dare show their face on a college campus.

Nice open atmosphere there asswipe...
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-11-18 14:35||   2005-11-18 14:35|| Front Page Top

#29 "As a Tenured professor HE REPRESENTS THE COLLEGE."

Do community colleges have tenured professors?
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-11-18 16:58||   2005-11-18 16:58|| Front Page Top

#30 John Daly????? I hope he plays golf better than this. Seriously this is merely another example of those on the left who feel that they have the right to silence anybody they do not agree with. Plus the aging '60s radicals are having one last swan song on the way to the grave or the old folks home.
Posted by Cheaderhead 2005-11-18 17:21||   2005-11-18 17:21|| Front Page Top

#31  Mr Daly responded to her alone, and expressed his own personal views regarding his beliefs about this group.

CF is right. When he stated he would ask his students to boycott, it went beyond a so-called one-on-one communication.
Posted by Pappy 2005-11-18 20:16||   2005-11-18 20:16|| Front Page Top

#32 Found this asshole's letter in support of Lenny Pelletier: http://sundial.csun.edu/sun/97f/97f/102297op02.htm
-I am a student here at CSUN and I am writing this letter to let the CSUN community know about a very important event. All over California, students are mobilizing to free Leonard Peltier. Speak-outs, teach-ins, film showings and house meetings are being organized to build for a mass rally in San Francisco to demand that Native American activist, Leonard Peltier, be released from prison - 21 years after he was framed by the FBI...blah blah blah...Fight for jobs and education! Say no to prisons and racism! Free Leonard Peltier and Mumia Abu-Jamal!

John Peter Daly
Graduate Student, Linguistics
Posted by Scotty 2005-11-18 21:03||   2005-11-18 21:03|| Front Page Top

#33 He's a Wobbly too!

http://www.rtis.com/reg/bcs/pol/touchstone/november97/daly.htm

This September marks the 150th anniversary of the U.S. military executions of the San Patricios -- 68 mostly-Irish immigrants who, in a tremendous act of solidarity, deserted the U.S. Army and fought in five major battles on the side of the Mexicans...blah blah blah...Today big business plunders the entire globe in the hunt for super-profits. Those who wish to resist this global piracy can look to the San Patricios for an example of how the very troops that uphold imperialist domination can turn against it..

(Reprinted from the October 2, 1997 issue of Workers World newspaper
Posted by Scotty 2005-11-18 21:05||   2005-11-18 21:05|| Front Page Top

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