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2010-04-28 Home Front: Politix

How Arizona became center of immigration debate

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Posted by ed 2010-04-28 07:50|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Fox News

"The latest immigration bill hasn't been scored yet by the Congressional Budget Office, but many of the components are similar to those in the failed 2007 immigration bill, which would have cost an estimated $30 billion over five years, including $20 billion for enforcement measures. The CBO also said the 2007 bill would have added $15 billion to the federal deficit.

FoxNews.com's latest taxpayer calculator estimates how much someone in your income range would have paid on average under the 2007 bill.

People earning under $15,000 would have paid an estimated $1.27 over five years. The same average for those making $30,000 to $50,000k would be $48. The bill would have cost Americans bringing home $100,000 to $200,000 an average of $365 over five years, or $73 a year.

Staffers and sources on Capitol Hill say that, like the 2007 bill, the latest legislation would require citizenship applicants to learn English and pay a fine, but it also may contain a "touch back" provision in which people would go to their home countries to register but would be allowed to "wait in line" while working in the U.S. with visas.

The conservative Heritage Foundation says comprehensive immigration reform will cost U.S. taxpayers much more -- about $90 billion a year, once low-skilled immigrants are fully legalized. The organization says these immigrants will receive an average of $3 to $4 in benefits for every $1 paid in taxes.

If you are adding millions and millions of very poorly educated people into the welfare system, into Social Security and Medicare, you are going to have a huge expansion of government costs, says Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation."

Posted by Shoting Unelet2578 2010-04-28 10:01|| 2010-04-28 10:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Al Sharpton is planning a "civil rights" protest out here, and everybody is more than aware that the last time he did that, in a pique of antisemitism, the end result was a Jewish store being burned, and eight people killed.

If he tries a similar riot out here, I look forward to his being Joe Arpaio's personal trustee, as well as whoever replaces Joe Arpaio when he retires, until Al's hair is cotton white, and he needs a walker to hobble around.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-04-28 11:08|| 2010-04-28 11:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Last week, 67 illegal immigrants were found crammed inside a U-Haul truck a fairly typical scenario in the state.

It must have been the color of their skin that tipped em off. The racist bastids!

Posted by DepotGuy 2010-04-28 12:12|| 2010-04-28 12:12|| Front Page Top

#4 So it is better for 67 illegals to be crammed in a U-Haul instead of put in Sheriff Joe's jail for a short stay until they can be shipped back to Mexico?

We live in a small neighborhood. Everyone knows everyone. If people come into the neighborhood who we don't recognize, we ask them who they are and can we help them. So far, one of them was a criminal who the police rounded up later. We have a strong neighborhood watch program where we look out for each other. The program has good ties with our local police. We all work together to prevent crime. Works well. It is not the neighbors who are trying to commit crimes in our neighborhood but the outsiders. Just consider what Arizona did as a neighborhood watch program. If San Francisco wants to b!tch about this immigration law and boycott Arizona, Arizona should take up a collection and ship bunches of illegals to San Francisco to be taken care of in that "refuge city." The rest of us should boycott San Francisco.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-04-28 14:14|| 2010-04-28 14:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Interestingly, the Texas legislature will be considering a bill like Arizona's in the January session. link

Posted by trailing wife at the Toyota shop 2010-04-28 14:46|| 2010-04-28 14:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Texas passes a law similar to Arizona's law. It is doubtful California and New Mexico will pass such laws. Does this mean illegals will then funnel into New Mexico and California? Not that they are not now, but just asking.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-04-28 15:39|| 2010-04-28 15:39|| Front Page Top

#7 regarding the Sharpton protest vs Freddie's Fashion Mart in Harlem, the eviction of the black owned retailer that was the 'cause' was initiated because the owner of the mall, a black Pentacostal Church, requested that retailer be evicted

this is another small but, I think, important detail in the Al Sharpton legacy

Posted by lord garth 2010-04-28 15:39|| 2010-04-28 15:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Does this mean illegals will then funnel into New Mexico and California?

Unlikely they'll stay long in New Mexico. It usually ranks per capita income just above Louisiana and Mississippi. If they want poverty, they can just stay home with the family. Free bennies are minimal constrained by that economy. New Mexico does have its share of illegals, noted often for their run for border as soon as there's a vehicular homicide or shooting. However, most just transit here to get to someplace with greater population centers to mingle with.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-04-28 19:15|| 2010-04-28 19:15|| Front Page Top

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