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2015-02-09 Terror Networks
Jordan Says 56 IS Targets Destroyed in 3 Days of Strikes
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Posted by trailing wife 2015-02-09 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6529 views ]  Top
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#1 Consider also that Jordan is not working under US rules of engagement and supervision of American lawyers. That has to increase their BDA results exponentially over US controlled strikes.
Posted by tipover 2015-02-09 01:49||   2015-02-09 01:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Ah, I wonder if the US has been given an idea of what Jordan is about to do and wants to limit collateral damage?

[Is it the beginning of the end for ISIS? ] - US? planes dropping leaflets on Raqqa telling civilians to get out of Dodge...
Posted by Tony 2015-02-09 02:19||   2015-02-09 02:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Creating refugees is a tactic going back to Biblical times, for reasons many here could explain to me better than I to them. But I'm sure our reasons for doing so are the reverse of ISIS's reasons for doing so.
Posted by trailing wife 2015-02-09 06:22||   2015-02-09 06:22|| Front Page Top

#4 Little hard to leach off the local population if the local population isn't there anymore. Also known as 'drying up the pond'.
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-02-09 08:59||   2015-02-09 08:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Perchance the leaflets are similar to the ones dropped on various German cities just before the Brits bombed the snot out of them and dumped a bizzillion tons of incendiaries on them?

could Raqqa become the MEs equivalent to Dresden?

Has the clueless ones decided that ole Abdullah is a man of his word and when he gets his blood up its katy bar the door?
Posted by Bill Clinton 2015-02-09 13:35||   2015-02-09 13:35|| Front Page Top

#6 Myquestion is more along the lines of if Jordan has the air force for a Dresden? ME air force's usually aren't very large.
Posted by charlesmobile 2015-02-09 18:34||   2015-02-09 18:34|| Front Page Top

#7 The Royal Jordanian Air force consists of approximately 12,000 personnel and 450 aircraft.

The aircraft consist of Cobras (Hellicopters), F16, Vampire FB.6, Tiger, Mirage and other fighters and Hercules transports, FireFlies and Slingbys.
Posted by Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2015-02-09 18:55||   2015-02-09 18:55|| Front Page Top

#8  the campaign has destroyed 20 percent of the fighting capabilities of Daesh

If they hadn't been sitting on their hands for the last 9 months,...this could be over.
Posted by Skidmark 2015-02-09 21:33||   2015-02-09 21:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Folks tend to lose sight of the immense destructive capability of modern weapons systems because we do tend to be circumspect about their use. Lets look at the numbers:

Jordanian 60 or so F16 (not counting about 20 2 seaters), most Block 40, so they have the Air to Ground upgrades. And having the US fly top cover and SEAD frees up all aircraft for strike config. And the UAE adds to those numbers as well. But lets say 60 for the sake of argument.

Remember, a B-17 carried about 4500 lbs of iron bombs on average. A single F-16 carries a max bomb load of about 20,000 lbs - and these are far more accurate even with just iron bombs due to the targeting computers onboard, and higher explosive yield in the bombs themselves.

Here's the math: 60 F-16 at 16000 pounds each is 960,000 pounds of bombs. Thats 210 or so B-17s in raw tonnage.

Now factor in that Tirtonal is 18% more effective than TNT, and at least 50% more accurate in terms of CEP from WW2 high altitude area bombing, so you need 68% more to match. Thats 350+ typical B-17s.

Then factor in that shorter trip to the target, and the far faster turnaround for F-16's, for a much higher sortie number in 24 hours (sortie rate and surge rate is something often overlooked in modern aircraft). Being generous, we can use factor of only 4 to 1 - that is for 1 B-17 missions in 24 hours the F-16 will fly 4 during the strike. So that's in excess of 1400 B-17s equivalent sorties.

Dreseden took about 720 RAF plus 520 US bombers to execute, and they did it over 4 days. That's 1240 bombers each day, or about 5000 sorties over the 4 days, dropping a total of 3900 tons per historical recod.

Over the same 4 days, 60 F-16 can generate 4 sorties the first day, 3 the second and 2 each of the follow, accounting for pilot fatigue. 660 sorties, each carrying 16,000 pounds. Over 5000 tons of bombs.

So yeah, Jordan can "Dresden" a place if they really really dont give a crap about carpet bombing a city.
Posted by OldSpook 2015-02-09 22:22||   2015-02-09 22:22|| Front Page Top

#10 The success so far shows what a modern air force can do against a 3rd world band of savages, when not constrained by lawyers and ignorant politicians - and those who are sympathizers with the enemy (ValJar looking at you)
Posted by OldSpook 2015-02-09 22:32||   2015-02-09 22:32|| Front Page Top

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