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2015-02-09 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Remember Stalingrad: Russian Veterans Write Open Letter to Angela Merkel About NATOâs New War

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Posted by Hupineger Glomomp1540 2015-02-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

Someone forgot to mention a bit of inconvenient history:

"The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, named after the Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov and the German foreign minister Joachim von Ribbentrop, officially the Treaty of Non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and also known as the Ribbentrop–Molotov Pact or Nazi–Soviet Pact, was a non-aggression pact signed in Moscow in the late hours of 23 August 1939."
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Posted by Besoeker 2015-02-09 04:14|| 2015-02-09 04:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Ok, the Russaian people did the heavy lifting, and most of the dying during WWII.

But we should not forget that without Soviet Union (ie the regime, Stamlin, the communists) Germany should have been forced toi surrender by Christmas 1939.

Geramny's western border was nearly unmanned so the whole plan was based in knocking Poland out of the war before the Allies were able to mount an offensive and in the interim make an impression demonstration to strike terror in the hearts of Allied governments and generals. But by 15th septmeber 1939 a) the Poles had counterattacked and managed to force the Geramns to lose ground and b) the Germans were running short of ammo something the Poles would notice sooner or later and tell teh Allies. So much for the terror inb Allied hearts. Then the Red Army backatabbed the Poles. Thuse over twenty million Soviet dead during the war wre due to Stralin and his puppets.

Posted by JFM 2015-02-09 05:57|| 2015-02-09 05:57|| Front Page Top

#3 No worries, NATO is no longer relevant factor. Champ and Vlad did a deal on the Ukraine and the Crimea.

Link to Champ video

Posted by Besoeker 2015-02-09 06:31|| 2015-02-09 06:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Remember Berlin '45. You got your revenge. It's not the Germans rearming. It's Vlad seeking to reestablish the ~~Reich~~ glories of Russia. Heck, the Western Europeans who can barely deal with a bunch of Muslims in their midst lack the will to geographically aggrandize themselves with another major welfare state. Maybe to satisfy your wounded chauvinistic ego they could pass Greece off to you.

Posted by Procopius2k 2015-02-09 08:45|| 2015-02-09 08:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Someone forgot to mention a bit of inconvenient history:

Like the Katyn Forest?

Posted by Pappy 2015-02-09 11:59|| 2015-02-09 11:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Well said Pappy.

Posted by Besoeker 2015-02-09 12:04|| 2015-02-09 12:04|| Front Page Top

#7 You know, you people give me an idea. Au, drat! Heinlein already used it.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-02-09 13:06|| 2015-02-09 13:06|| Front Page Top

#8 Heinlein wrote a lot of schtuff. Some of it contradictory - especially in his latter years.

Posted by Pappy 2015-02-09 14:31|| 2015-02-09 14:31|| Front Page Top

#9 I was referring to the self-elimination of the "white race".

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-02-09 14:38|| 2015-02-09 14:38|| Front Page Top

#10 Seems the Russians have historically made a pretty good stab at that...

Posted by Pappy 2015-02-09 18:34|| 2015-02-09 18:34|| Front Page Top

#11 FYI both Russian Orthodox RUSSIA + rival Greek Orthdox GREECE repor now want Germany to pay reparations for WW2.

IMO the above is more evidencia/indicia that Putin's latest or most recent actions in East Ukraine, etc. is more about GERMANY now, NOT UKRAINE-SPECIFIC SEAPARATISM, CAUCASUS INSURGENCY, ISIS, ETC.

Iff anything, its about the future of Russo-German relations + coop/partnership under OWG-NWO, + WHOM WILL DOMINATE OR CONTROL. OLE DARTH VLAD IS MAKING SURE D ***** RUSSIA-N-ONLY-RUSSIA IS THE "ALPHA".

WHAT WILL BE GERMANY'S RESPONSE - Will Merkelian Germany seek to amend its post-WW2 Constitution, as like Shinzo Abe + Japan???

Put another way, iff RUSSIA = CHINA, RUSSIA'S GERMANY = CHINA'S JAPAN.

On a higher note, it goes to the question as to whether the World is ready to trust Germany + Japan, + to allow them to be come players again on the international stage - WHERE PUTINIST RUSSIA IS CONCERNED, IMO IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY DE FACTO DESTABILIZING HARD BOY THREAT TO RUSSIA THE FORMER IS NOT READY TO ACCEPT THE RETURN OF GERMANY ANDOR JAPAN TO THE WORLD STAGE.

OTOH A STRONG RE-ARMED GERMANY IS PRECISELY WHAT IS NEEDED BY BOTH RUSSIA + NATO-EU TO BACK UP THE OWG-NWO, ANTI-ISLAM, UNIFIED JUDEOCHRISTIAN MIL BASTION + INTER-RELIGIOUS "NO MAN'S LAND" THAT IS SSSHHH ... CCCCC THE CRIMEA = BLACK SEA REGION.

IMO Putin = Russia believes he is presently well-ahead of the Hard Boyz in entrenching Russia-specific MilPol power in the Crimea + Black Sea Region, includ as per NATO threats of anti-Russian mil buildup, TO WHICH PUTIN LIKELY BELIEVES THE US-WEST SHOULD THANK HIM - WHAT PUTIN IS SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED NOW IS KEEPING GERMANY SECULAR, UNDER INTERNATIONAL = UNO, NATO-EU CONTROL, + NON-NUCLEAR. DITTO AS PER CURRENTLY WESTERN SECULAR, BUT ISLAMIST-PRESSURED, ALLEGED "NEO-OTTOMAN" WANNABE TURKEY.

Lest we fergit, Russia may fear Radical Islam, Turkey, + Germany on its Euro side but it also has Iran + ultimately Far East-desiring China to contend with on its CENTASIA + EAST ASIA flanks.

* FYI DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > HEAD OF GERMANY'S ARMED FORCES ASSOCIATION: IFF YOU WANT PEACE PREPARE FOR WAR.

* TOPIX > [Voice of America] GERMANY WARNS EUROPEAN ORDER AT RISK AHEAD OF UKRAINE PEACE TALKS, espec iff NATO-EU concedes or surrenders to Darth Vlad on Ukraine's sovereign territorial integrity.

* SAME >[Trend] OBAMA: WE CAN'T LET RUSSIA REDRAW EUROPEAN BORDERS.

Ditto POTUS Obama as per OWG Co-Superpower Rising Iran in the ME, + ultimately OWG Co-Superpower Rising China in East Asia-Pacific - OTOH, WHILE ARGENTINA'S CHRISTINA IS INDEED RAMPAGING IN THE MEDIAS, THUS FAR SHE HASN'T ATTACKED THE FALKLANDS ANDOR MERCUSOR RIVAL BRAZIL YET.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2015-02-09 21:00|| 2015-02-09 21:00|| Front Page Top

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