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Witch hunt at the University of Oklahoma
The editors of The Oklahoma Daily finally got their wish: policing and punishing students for what they say and think.

Less than two days after an editorial griped that the University of Oklahoma’s promised “bias hotline” was months behind its scheduled implementation, the university confirmed the system is going live Friday afternoon.
"text of complaint" >> /dev/null
The Daily reports that the school switched third-party vendors in the middle of the planned implementation.

More at the link
Posted by: badanov || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is Norman following in Austin's path?
Posted by: Shick de Medici6262 || 09/13/2016 9:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Thought this was going to be a story about the search for the missing Hilda.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 9:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, once you toss out academic freedom, you don't mind being micro-managed by the legislative branch? Got to give the pols something to do between legislative sessions. We have a match.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 12:16 Comments || Top||

#4 
Posted by: Griper Unomolet8394 || 09/13/2016 12:33 Comments || Top||


Economy
The mind-blowing stupidity of Wells Fargo
[THEWEEK] Wells Fargo is in hot water. U.S. regulators announced Thursday that the bank has to pay $2.5 million in customer refunds and $185 million in legal fees. It's comeuppance for some truly breathtaking stupidity on the bank's part.

The problem began with what's called "cross-selling." Your average big corporation has a lot of customers, but also a lot of different products and services. Wells Fargo, for instance, is one of the biggest banks in the country, and its offerings run the gamut from credit and debit cards, to online banking, to savings and checking accounts and more. Usually, most of a company's customers only use one or two of those products and services. But since it's already gone to the trouble to acquire those customers, it presumably behooves Wells Fargo and other big firms to get their employees to hawk the rest of their products and services to those customers as well.

That's cross-selling. Which seems straightforward enough. But it turns out, as a business model, cross-selling can be tricky. Doing it properly requires the right strategy, metrics, and so forth. Wells Fargo did not do cross-selling properly.

First off, the bank used a crude metric -- simply the average number of products sold to each customer. Then it imposed strict cross-selling quotas on employees that arguably went way beyond what was reasonably possible.

Next, as the L.A. Times' E. Scott Reckard found in 2013, Wells Fargo reportedly treated its employees horribly. "Managers constantly hound, berate, demean, and threaten employees to meet these unreachable quotas," said a Los Angeles city attorney investigation sparked by the Times' report.
Welcome to banking and retail.
Managers themselves were reportedly berated in front of coworkers if they fell short. Plenty of people put in extra hours, and then had to sue Wells Fargo when they weren't paid overtime.

"When I worked at Wells Fargo, I faced the threat of being fired if I didn’t meet their unreasonable sales quotes every day," one former employee said in a statement. "We were constantly told we would end up working for McDonald's" revealed another.
Posted by: Fred || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I've never participated in these bullshit schemes. I've bought cars two different times when the dealership rep said "The company will send a survey out in a few days--I have to have 5 stars on that survey to keep my job."

I said nothing, and never returned any survey. People have to stand up to this bullshit. Bad behavior is bad behavior, whether its disguised as capitalism or totalitarianism.
Posted by: Crusader || 09/13/2016 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Leadership sets the tone of the unit. In the uniform services, it usually means the commander and staff are fired as well.
I'm sure the CEO and board are above accountability and make the big money (and bonuses).
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 12:12 Comments || Top||

#3  It's only stupid if either of two things happened: (1) The $185M fine caused them to lose money or (2) someone significant does significant jail time.
Posted by: gorb || 09/13/2016 12:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Clinton Surrogate Blames Methodism For Campaign's Lies About HRC's Health [VIDEO]
[Daily Caller] Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm thinks that Hillary Clinton’s religion played a key part in the campaign's decision not to disclose her pneumonia diagnosis.

MSNBC’s Hallie Jackson had just asked Granholm why Clinton waited to tell the public about her illness, when "the campaign has already struggled with trust issues?"

"You've got to admit that -- and you probably do this, too -- we in my house say when you get a cold, power through, power through. Don’t give it any power," Granholm responded. "I am certain that Hillary Clinton, being the stoic Methodist that she is, didn't want to give it power."

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 02:24 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No Jennifer, it's not Methodism. A person lies because they are a fvcking liar. That's what they do.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 9:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Really. I figured she was a Shaker.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/13/2016 11:10 Comments || Top||

#3  That's a relief, knowing this. All this time, I just thought she was full of shit.
Posted by: Raj || 09/13/2016 11:18 Comments || Top||

#4  #2 Really. I figured she was a Shaker.

Nicely played.
Posted by: Crusader || 09/13/2016 11:29 Comments || Top||

#5  I've been powering through sickness all week and now I know it's pneumonia and my doctors say to take some time off and I still have two months to go so I'll do just that and catch up on some reading and visit my granddaughter" or something like that.

Instead her instinct was to lie, lie to cover up the lie, and then lie again. Just because Obama and Bill do it doesn't mean lying is Presidential.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/13/2016 12:13 Comments || Top||

#6  ..but it seems to be a trend.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 13:08 Comments || Top||

#7  ...sort of like the governor of Illinois next residence is a prison, state or federal.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 13:09 Comments || Top||

#8  Power is her illness.
Posted by: Angolutle Prince of the Veal Cutlets4353 || 09/13/2016 17:13 Comments || Top||

#9  As a wag said, Hillary would rather climb a tree to lie than to stand on the ground to tell the truth.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 19:24 Comments || Top||

#10  Shes been needing a walker for some time now.
Posted by: Fat Bob Fleling9437 || 09/13/2016 19:43 Comments || Top||


Dr. Zuhki Jasser MD: HRC Didn't Pass Out from Dehydration, It was Cardio or Neurological Disorder (VIDEO)
[Gateway] Dr. Zuhdi Jasser M.D. joined Steve Malzberg on Newsmax TV to discuss Hillary Clinton’s health concerns. Dr. Jasser was a physician for the Navy and and physician for Congress told Steve Hilary’s medical emergency was not caused by dehydration.

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser: What she had was a syncopal episode. She passed out. That’s either cardiovascular or neurologic. Now, her team wants us to believe it is dehydration. She didn’t appear to be dehydrated and that doesn’t get fixed in 90 minutes. So I can tell you that it really appears and if I let a patient with the condition of syncope leave my office, and not get admitted, and get evaluated immediately, that would be malpractice. So there’s something going on.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 01:28 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The difference between a syncopal episode and dying is that you wake up after a syncopal episode.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/13/2016 3:33 Comments || Top||

#2  And the falling catheter clip?
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/13/2016 10:09 Comments || Top||

#3  All I know is that I have been down from heat/dehy and I did not do that.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/13/2016 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Ever seen one of these defibrillators?
Posted by: gorb || 09/13/2016 12:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Or something like one of these Collie clips might explain the sound of whatever it was that fell on the ground out from under her clothing by her right cankle between the 12s and 13s mark in this video. I noticed that an ad was strategically placed to pop up at the 10s mark that covered it up, but you can cancel it and replay to your heart's content and see what happened.
Posted by: gorb || 09/13/2016 12:30 Comments || Top||

#6  She wasn't conscious while they put her in the van.
Just look at her feet.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/13/2016 13:56 Comments || Top||

#7  frequent involuntary coughing is a symptom of pneumonia and if you have pneumonia you will have a mild fever, and if you don't drink water when you have a fever you will eventually be unable to sweat as well and if you don't sweat you will overheat and pass out

so at least some things seem to make some sense
Posted by: lord garth || 09/13/2016 14:46 Comments || Top||

#8  they lied told you it was pneumonia because the truth is worth. Bank on it. That's how they roll
Posted by: Frank G || 09/13/2016 19:10 Comments || Top||

#9  Anxiety cough, something in gut making dysentery.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/13/2016 19:21 Comments || Top||


Hillary Clinton's Campaign Needs To Hire Better Liars
[The Federalist] Hillary Clinton’s campaign has a problem. A truth problem, to be specific. No, not the problem of being completely incapable of ever telling the truth, although that is a problem. The truth problem I’m talking about is the Clinton campaign’s inability to tell believable lies.

"But why not just ask the Clinton campaign to tell the truth?" you might ask. "Wouldn’t that be easier?"

Maybe. But these are the Clintons. If you’re a Clinton, you lie. It’s what you do. Expecting them to not lie is a fool’s errand. But given the amount of time the Clintons have spent in politics lying to the public‐somewhere in the neighborhood of three decades‐they really ought to be better at it by now.

For those who’ve been living under a rock, people have been asking questions about the aging Democratic nominee’s health ever since a potentially life-threatening blood clot near her brain was discovered after the former Secretary of State suffered a serious concussion that sidelined her for several weeks. According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Clinton blamed that concussion for her alleged inability to recall details about her lawless e-mail server scheme.

Here are a few headlines that captured the rough tenor of coverage of Hillary’s health woes over the past few weeks:

CNN (Aug. 24, 2016): Clinton’s health is fine, but what about Trump?
New York Post (Sept. 4, 2016): Dr. Drew loses show after discussing Hillary’s health
Washington Post (Sept. 6, 2016): Can we just stop talking about Hillary Clinton’s health now?
Sarah Silverman (Sept. 8, 2016): "I think anyone bringing up her health is a f***ing a**hole"

The wheels officially came off the bus on Sunday when Hillary Clinton seized up and passed out on camera. Suddenly, asking questions about her health no longer indicted you as an un-person who should be sent off to the re-education camps.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The quality of their liars doesn't matter.

She could kill a puppy, a kitten, and a newborn on live television. Immediately after doing so at least 90 percent of the "professional media" would scramble to explain what "provoked" her to do so (and why we should be ok with it). And 45% of the voters would immediately write it off as "At least she didn't insult anyone like Trump likes to do".

People who actually believe in right and wrong have to step up. Conversations that are "uncomfortable" have to take place. Hillary isn't "a woman who might be the first woman president". Instead, she's a sack of evil shit that has to be denounced at every turn.
Posted by: Crusader || 09/13/2016 0:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Nah. They are about as skilled as you get. Hillary's lied so much that we have lost all ability to know whether or not she is telling the truth about anything. I've taken the approach that whenever she or her apparatchiks open their mouths, I assume they are lying. What about Slick Willy (What's the meaning of "Is.") and Obama (If you like your insurance and your doctor, you can keep them)? They've got this down pretty damn good.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 10:04 Comments || Top||

#3  whenever she or her apparatchiks open their mouths, I assume they are lying

But, JQC, this only works 95% of the time.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/13/2016 10:06 Comments || Top||

#4  The quality of the lies is key.

If she had pneumonia and they claimed the flu instead of deny, deny, deny they would have gotten sympathy and a free pass for a weekend or more of rest.

If she has something worse than pneumonia you claim pneumonia because people know it is serious when you are old but goes away (or the patient does) so if she survives it wouldn't effect her Presidency.

I think the quality of her lies is so poor because the sycophants in the media copy/paste even the most insane lies with a smile. They have done her a disservice by letting her natural Clinton lying muscles go flabby.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/13/2016 18:08 Comments || Top||

#5  "not infectious" but she poses with the prop child and her staff is also coming down with it
Posted by: Frank G || 09/13/2016 18:46 Comments || Top||

#6  her staff is also Supposedly coming down with it

I think that's bullshit
Posted by: Frank G || 09/13/2016 19:11 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Humans may speak a universal language, say scientists
[Telegraph] Humans across the globe may be actually speaking the same language after scientists found that the sounds used to make the words of common objects and ideas are strikingly similar.

The discovery challenges the fundamental principles of linguistics, which state that languages grow up independently of each other, with no intrinsic meaning in the noises which form words.

But research which looked into several thousand languages showed that for basic concepts, such as body parts, family relationships or aspects of the natural world, there are common sounds - as if concepts that are important to the human experience somehow trigger universal verbalisations.

"These sound symbolic patterns show up again and again across the world, independent of the geographical dispersal of humans and independent of language lineage," said Dr Morten Christiansen, professor of psychology and director of Cornell's Cognitive Neuroscience Lab in the US where the study was carried out.

"There does seem to be something about the human condition that leads to these patterns. We don't know what it is, but we know it's there."

The study found, that in most languages, the word for ’nose’ is likely to include the sounds ’neh’ or the ’oo’ sound, as in ’ooze.’
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 01:21 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Many words have onomatopoeic roots. Hardly surprising they are similar in different languages.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/13/2016 4:54 Comments || Top||

#2  A barking chien, eh?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/13/2016 6:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Golly so the Tower of Babel 8sn'the just some cool story in the end?

Whoda thunk it?
Posted by: Flusing Platypus6789 || 09/13/2016 7:13 Comments || Top||

#4  "There does seem to be something about the human condition that leads to these patterns. We don't know what it is, but we know it's there."

You know Sherlock, if you walk to the next building or across the commons, there's an office with title like anthropology department. They have this theory about an African diaspora in where hunter gathers migrated (before a wall could be built) out of the continent to populate the world. That would imply all the basics and knowledge needed by hunter gathers and a language to communicate them. Given the population wasn't yet even near millions*, we can speculate that their vocabulary wasn't either.

*See - Population Bottleneck.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 9:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Does Director Christiansen include languages outside the major lingustic families, languages like Piraha, spoken only by an isolated tribe in the Amazonian jungle, described as:

Unrelated to any other extant tongue, and based on just eight consonants and three vowels, Pirahã has one of the simplest sound systems known. Yet it possesses such a complex array of tones, stresses, and syllable lengths that its speakers can dispense with their vowels and consonants altogether and sing, hum, or whistle conversations.

...The Pirahã, Everett wrote, have no numbers, no fixed color terms, no perfect tense, no deep memory, no tradition of art or drawing, and no words for “all,” “each,” “every,” “most,” or “few”—terms of quantification believed by some linguists to be among the common building blocks of human cognition. Everett’s most explosive claim, however, was that Pirahã displays no evidence of recursion, a linguistic operation that consists of inserting one phrase inside another of the same type, as when a speaker combines discrete thoughts (“the man is walking down the street,” “the man is wearing a top hat”) into a single sentence (“The man who is wearing a top hat is walking down the street”). Noam Chomsky, the influential linguistic theorist, has recently revised his theory of universal grammar, arguing that recursion is the cornerstone of all languages, and is possible because of a uniquely human cognitive ability.


Contrariwise, what Procopius2k said.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/13/2016 10:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah, linguists.
When my dogs(dachsund, shar-pei, labs) bark, they sound the same. Must be the American kennels, eh?
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/13/2016 10:15 Comments || Top||

#7  "Excuse me, I speak Jive"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/13/2016 19:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Yeah the language is 'Sex'.

Next question?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/13/2016 19:25 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Wayne Newton to Kaepernick, Other Anthem Protesters: ‘Get the Hell Out!'
[Breitbart] Singer Wayne Newton had a message for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and other athletes who are protesting the oppression of black people in America by not standing for the national anthem.

"I think every American has the right to say and do whatever it is that freedom offers us," Newton said. "However, during the national anthem, is not the time or the place to show that kind of thing. I have no tolerance at all for it. I support the right to say what they believe and how they believe it, but that’s the wrong place and time."

Newton then added they could "get the hell out" if they do not like it.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 00:58 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: Blossom Unains5562 || 09/13/2016 19:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Colin says he's protesting social injustice. I guess he has a gripe about the inequities of income distribution. He and the other protesters should donate some of the millions they are paid from football and redistribute these millions to others who are less fortunate.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 20:06 Comments || Top||

#3  ... remember for the Left, the pubic treasury is their charity, just not from their personal bank accounts.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 20:22 Comments || Top||



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