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#1 What Steve said, especially in that last annotation.
WTF is it with the head-smackingly dumb s**t that people come up with - including people "who've been there" like Zbig and Brent? The foreign policy field, more or less my home forever, seems to have an amazing abundance of of and tolerance for simply idiotic ideas.
I'm pretty sure Obama's not as smart as many like to believe, I'm positive he's utterly over his head in these matters, but I still don't see anything like this happening. The problems and booby traps are too obvious even for the Clinton III/Beltway Lightweight Brigade to ignore. Plus there's risk (eewwwwww, we don't do risk, even if we ARE "transformational").
In any case, Iz'rl would have a veto over anything remotely like this, so I can't see it being feasible.
Meanwhile, if the new team (or the Iraqis) doesn't manage to screw up Iraq, whatever will we do with the hallucinogenic touchstone assumption that all good things in the MidEast can only proceed from and follow upon a love-fest between Iz'rl and the Paleos? The assertion that has beclowned a thousand think tankers, "intelligence community" analysts, State weenies, and former big-shots will just be left there, writhing on the deck. Not that it will die, or its buffoonish adherents suffer a bit - first principle of idiotic Beltway conventional wisdom foreign policy: no ridiculous claim or idea, however spectacular or undeniable the debunking thereof, can result in a loss of prestige or regard for the clown who authored it. Absolute zero accountability.
Posted by Verlaine 2008-12-04 03:37||
#2 In any case, Iz'rl would have a veto over anything remotely like this, so I can't see it being feasible.
Actually, I think the Israelis are smart enough to allow this. It would be a black hole sucking the life out of the Obama regime for no accomplishment or less than zero benefit. Scowcroft and Jones should be smarter than this, but looking at the policy papers of the Atlantic Council of the United States (think tank they are assoc with), this is just like the self defeating actions they advocate.
It's going to a long four years and we are going to appreciate just what a tough guy Jimmy Carter was.
#4 NATO won't play. I've said for some time that Obama may will try to enfluence the action in Africa through the deployment of US troops under the new AFRICOM/US State (Peace Corps-Lite) structure. Scowcroft, Brzesniki and Kissenger are bitter old men who no longer have any visible or elected public role in international affairs. The need to go find Florida. I well remember their hayday. It wasn't that outstanding, believe me.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-12-04 08:08||
#5 They would be human shields for a massive Paleo arms upgrade, same as the Lebanon border.
Posted by Grunter 2008-12-04 08:35||
#6 I can see one reason to have NATO forces there. To assist in moving the Paleos into Jordan, in lieu of the Israelis forcing them to leave, prior to reclaiming the West Bank as part of "greater Israel".
Posted by Anonymoose 2008-12-04 09:38||
#7 "They need to go find Florida. I well remember their hayday. It wasn't that outstanding, believe me."
Ditto, in spades.
Posted by AlanC 2008-12-04 09:48||
#8 Grunter is right, and I forgot to include that important point in my diatribe. The Widows Ammunition Fund would indeed be busy ...
Posted by Steve White 2008-12-04 09:49||
#9 There is now a "Temporary International Presence in Hebron" called by the acronym TIPH which most Israelis refer to as "Two Idiots Patroling Hebron".
It is acknowledged as a farce by both Israelis and Palestinians.
Posted by mhw 2008-12-04 10:02||
#10 I would take this with a huge mountain of salt.
But if true...
It would be the political equivalent of using a flamethrower to remove a wart on your nose.
Posted by DarthVader 2008-12-04 10:07||
#11 Let's also not forget that if U.S. troops actually shoot any palestinians it will have negative consequences in our efforts in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and elsewhere in the muslim world.
Posted by DoDo 2008-12-04 11:09||
#12 But DoDo, to the left that's not a bug, but a feature.