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2014-05-21 China-Japan-Koreas
US Navy 'Shaping Events' in South China Sea
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Posted by Squinty 2014-05-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 "...We are NOT leaving" > OTOH it is the view of certain PHIL Govt. leaders that the US isn't serious or truly defending the PHIL either.

To wit,

* ABS-CBN NEWS > [US-PHIL] EDCA USELESS, WON'T PROTECT PHIL TERRITORY: BELLO, who also believes the US is cheating the PHIL on not paying rent on the PHIL Milbases it uses ala Turkey [US$500.0M per annum], + it is the PHIL whom must pay the US for any improvements or upgrades made by the US to PHIL Milbases.

Akbayan Representative Walden Bello.

> No defense iff China attacks Luzon or widin PHIL territorial waters.
> EDCA applicable only to specific defense of Scarborough Shoal [Panatag Shoal], nine Spratly islands, + PHIL continental shelf.
> EDCA USELESS AS PER CHINA'S NEW CONTRUCTION ON MABINI REEF.

* RELATED PHILIPPINES NEWS > [Ferdinand Marcos, JR]BONGBONG: PHIL IN LOSING END OF [EDCA] DEFENSE DEAL WID US.

* Also from PHILIPINES NEWS > NO, BEIJING'S SOUTH CHINA SEA OFFENSIVE ISN'T ABOUT OIL + FISH.

* WORLD NEWS > [SCMP] SOUTH CHINA SEA CLAIMANTS MUST STEEL THEMSELVES AGZ MORE AGGRESSIVE CHINA.

* SAME > [VOA] CHINA'S SCS STRATEGY UNMOVED BY VIETNAM PROTESTS.

* SAME > [PHIL Sun-Star] VALDERAMA: CHINA MAY GROW LARGER.

Which gener speaking is what OBAMA-THE-GLOBALIST + ANTI-US GLOBALISTS desire as per their OWG Co-Superpowers - HOWEVER ROUGH, GEOPOL + NUCLEAR "PARITY" WID THE USA AT MINIMA, NOT "INFERIORITY".

CHINA = RUSSIA = IRAN = BRAZIL? = ???? = AS THESE GROW LARGER, CONVERSELY THE US MUST VOLUNTARILY OR FORCIBLY SHRINK.

Again, SEVEN [more?] US-STYLE PAR OWG CO-SUPERPOWERS FOR SEVEN GLOBAL FED UNIONS [more?] ON SEVEN CONTINENTS.

At least for starters.

* VOICE OF RUSSIA > US NOT CAPABLE OF CONFRONTING RUSSIA + CHINA AT SAME TIME - POLITICAL ANALYST.

Venezuela diplomat ALfredo T. Hardy.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-05-21 01:39||   2014-05-21 01:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Excerpt from Rules of Combat:

Navy

1. Spend three weeks getting somewhere
2. Adopt an aggressive offshore posture
3. Send in the Marines
4. Drink Coffee
5. Bring back the Marines
Posted by BrerRabbit 2014-05-21 03:57||   2014-05-21 03:57|| Front Page Top

#3 You can always drag some of those soon to be broken/mothballed ships out there and sink them. Give notice of future territorial claims to the 'reef'.
Posted by Procopius2k 2014-05-21 07:53||   2014-05-21 07:53|| Front Page Top

#4 I seem to recall a rather inhospitable departure from Subic Clark and other bases when it seemed that the USN was not viewed fondly. What, you want us back committed to your existence? Gee, maybe we should think about it.
Posted by Chereth Slavitle4002 2014-05-21 14:08||   2014-05-21 14:08|| Front Page Top

#5 Don't think too hard - under-used body parts tend to get hurt.
Posted by Pappy 2014-05-21 15:27||   2014-05-21 15:27|| Front Page Top

#6 BrerRabbit,
You have to admit that the navy has good coffee.
Posted by Squinty 2014-05-21 20:20||   2014-05-21 20:20|| Front Page Top

#7 BELLO, who also believes the US is cheating the PHIL on not paying rent on the PHIL Milbases it uses ala Turkey [US$500.0M per annum], + it is the PHIL whom must pay the US for any improvements or upgrades made by the US to PHIL Milbases.

That's right. Harass Uncle Sam about rent. That should make the US more inclined to risk blood and treasure to defend the PI.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2014-05-21 22:45||   2014-05-21 22:45|| Front Page Top

#8 China at this time would like to remind ASEAN + Japan that they have NucWeapons, + more Ships + PLanes + Tanks, etc. than they do.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > BEIJING: US "MUST USED TO CHINA'S RISE" | WASHINGTON'S ENGAGEMENT IN TERRORIAL ISSUES "COMPLICATES [already pre-existing?] PROBLEMS".

* TOPIX > [BNN] CHINA PRESIDENT SAYS ASIA NATIONS SHOULD AVOID MILITARY TIES OUTSIDE OF REGION.

China = Xi means the USA - however, XI is seemingly hypocritically also proposing a new Asia-only security structure which can include Russia + Iran + CENTASIA states.

Move along, people, clearly no CHINA-LED "ASIAN UNION" + OWG GLOBALIST CO-SUPERPOWER here.

* RELATED SAME > [American Thinker] CHINA + RUSSIA AGREE TO CONTAIN THE USA.

* RELATED BIGNEWSNETWORK > EURASIAN ECONOMIC UNION SOON TO BE REALITY.

Russia, Belarus, + Kazakhistan.

* BIG NEWS NETWORK > [VOA News] VIETNAM: CHINA OIL RIG "SERIOUSLY THREATENS [regional]PEACE", + stability + martime safety + freedom of navigation.

* SAME > JAPAN PROPOSES MILITARY PRESENCE IN REMOTE ISLANDS, i.e. Amami Oishima, Miyakogima, + Ishigakijima NEAR nANSEI + Senkaku Islands.

IMO the US = USDOD should be doing the same thing ala the CNMI + Bonins.

* WORLD NEWS > [PHIL Star] FEW BARRIERS TO CHINA'S PUSH IN SOUTH CHINA SEA.

* SAME > TAIPEI: SEA DISPUTES AFFECT TAIWAN SECURITY.

* SAME > [Malaysia Business Insight] CHINA ANSWERS ASEAN + OBAMA.

ARTIC = ...
> China is exploiting historical regional divisions + rivalries = lack of unity.
> China next target could be PAGASA ISLAND = CHINA-CLAIMED ZHONGYE ISLAND, a scenario which will liley de facto mean war wid the PHIL + invocation of the US-PHIL mutual defense treaty???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-05-21 23:18||   2014-05-21 23:18|| Front Page Top

#9 That's right. Harass Uncle Sam about rent.

The Philippines should want the bases for the same reason that US Congress critters want them; it stimulates the local economy.
Posted by Squinty 2014-05-21 23:22||   2014-05-21 23:22|| Front Page Top

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