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2007-02-28 Great White North

700k 'Lost Canadians' May Lose Citizenship In Legal Twist

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Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Canada's Citizenship Act said children born out of wedlock or to a father who took a second citizenship would be disqualified as Canadians.

Trailing daughter #2 was born in Germany, in a German hospital (an interesting experience, at least for me -- she wasn't paying close attention at the time). If her children are not born on American territory, they will not automatically acquire American citizenship as her children. This is a longstanding rule, to ensure that citizenship is not passed on to those with no real ties to the US... sort of reverse anchor babies thingy. Children born out of wedlock should not inherit their father's citizenship, in my opinion, nor should those born of one who took on another citizenship. I do find it odd, though, that this only applies to the father's children, although perhaps it's because the caffein hasn't yet kicked in.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-02-28 08:56|| 2007-02-28 08:56|| Front Page Top

#2 My daughter was born in a US military hospital in Japan, and her birth had to be registered with the US Consulate. She is quite definatly a US citizen, since children born to US service-people stationed abroad are US citizens. There is a small wrangle of late as to wether such children can run as a presidential candidate, since the numbers of US citizens stationed abroad, and having their children born overseas only became substantial in the last fifty years or so.

She has gotten a great deal of amusement over the years, as a tall, strapping blue-eyed blond, telling people that she was born in Japan and having them say "B-b-but you don't look Japanese!"

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2007-02-28 09:20|| www.ncobrief.com]">[www.ncobrief.com] 2007-02-28 09:20|| Front Page Top

#3 My daughter was born in Virginia, I've had much fun teasing her over the years as "Not Quite Southern,

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-02-28 10:21|| 2007-02-28 10:21|| Front Page Top

#4 lol, RJ! Pushin' for snark o' the week, are we?

Posted by BA 2007-02-28 11:04|| 2007-02-28 11:04|| Front Page Top

#5 I was delivered in Selma, Alabama. I don't know where I was assembled. I am, however, an American of southern Descent.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2007-02-28 12:17|| 2007-02-28 12:17|| Front Page Top

#6 Sgt. Mom, I was told that US military hospitals count as US soil for such purposes. However, I couldn't vouch for the legal expertise of whoever it was that told me.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-02-28 13:15|| 2007-02-28 13:15|| Front Page Top

#7 More or less right, TW... generally the patients at military hospitals overseas are members of the military and their officially recognized dependents... ergo, a child born in a military hospital overseas is therefore officially an American. Even if actually born in a civilian hospital off-post (which does happen!) there is really no question about citizenship.

Except for the stipulation about a presidential candidate being a native-born American... which is where the rather interesting grey area comes in. Such children are American citizens, but are they strictly speaking, native-born? It has come up once or twice, IIRC most recently because a potential candidate a couple of election cycles ago was born in China, where his parents were missionaries.
Just an interesting sidelight.
For the life of me though, I can't figure out how the Canadian bureaucrats have managed pass a rule which looks like it imperils the citizenship rights of overseas-born military and diplomatic dependents.

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2007-02-28 14:32|| www.ncobrief.com]">[www.ncobrief.com] 2007-02-28 14:32|| Front Page Top

#8 Deacon: born in Athens, GA, raised in the Atlanta 'burbs, but wised up and went to Auburn!

Posted by BA 2007-02-28 14:40|| 2007-02-28 14:40|| Front Page Top

#9 And just what does the Honorable Sen. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami, think of this?

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-02-28 16:13|| 2007-02-28 16:13|| Front Page Top

#10 Military dependents born overseas in a military hospital count as native born citizens. How else could Panama Canal Zone-born John McCain be a Presidential candidate?

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2007-02-28 20:21|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[ http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2007-02-28 20:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Dependents born in France are considered by the French government as citizens (albeit dual).

It was fun watching one of my Navy A-school classmates as he read his draft notice...

Posted by Pappy 2007-02-28 20:54|| 2007-02-28 20:54|| Front Page Top

#12 So did he show up in his US Navy uniform on the appointed date, Pappy?

Posted by trailing wife 2007-02-28 21:06|| 2007-02-28 21:06|| Front Page Top

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