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2008-08-11 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

The West must share the blame for war in Georgia

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Posted by john frum 2008-08-11 07:40|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 ...because being blamed for everything is what the West does best!

Posted by Raj 2008-08-11 08:18|| 2008-08-11 08:18|| Front Page Top

#2 The excuses only go so far. The Russians are not fighting Georgia to defend the rights of small nations. They also want to remind Europe where much of its energy comes from.

Spot on! Thats why Sarko can denounce the RU's so boldly. France is less dependent on Russian energy due to their nuclear power. Excellent article. Once again, it IS all about oil.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-08-11 08:22|| 2008-08-11 08:22|| Front Page Top

#3 The British broadsheets are all waving the white flag, just like they did when Chamberlain sold out the Czechs.

Posted by mrp 2008-08-11 09:42|| 2008-08-11 09:42|| Front Page Top

#4 There is going to be another World War, soon, and it will be doozy. From a historical perspective, I'd say it is 1935. Maybe a little later.

The brown smelly stuff is going to be hitting the rotating air circulation device real soon.

Posted by Angavising Sforza8051 2008-08-11 09:48|| 2008-08-11 09:48|| Front Page Top

#5 Then let it fly. I'm sick and tired of watching my country bend over and grab its ankles in front of the Russians, Chinese, and even small time players like Venezuela. Embargo the hell out of Russian energy and tough it out for a year while they go broke. There is no solution that will let everyone continue to live a comfortable, profitable life. Even appeasement will fall through when Russia gets a strong enough stranglehold on UK and EU energy supplies. They will eventually make you get down on your knees and service the king in front of the whole world.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-08-11 10:23|| 2008-08-11 10:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Rather than waiting for the Russians to instil the fear of death, the West should have taught Georgia the facts of life

LOL.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-08-11 10:24|| 2008-08-11 10:24|| Front Page Top

#7 #4 There is going to be another World War, soon, and it will be doozy. From a historical perspective, I'd say it is 1935. Maybe a little later.

The brown smelly stuff is going to be hitting the rotating air circulation device real soon.

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Why wait for Pearl Harbor Day #2.

Posted by Full Bosomed1072 2008-08-11 11:53|| 2008-08-11 11:53|| Front Page Top

#8 " By the early 1990s, there was a need for a new system of collective security in Europe, embracing the Russians. Once Moscow had renounced the ill-gotten gains of 1944-45, we should have welcomed the Russians back to a Europe which had been spiritually impoverished by their absence."

We tried that. We invited the Russians to a partnership for peace, we invited them to the G8. We TRIED to make them partners, but even under Yeltsin they took stands on Yugoslavia, Iraq, the FSU states, etc that were threatening. And Yeltsin betrayed the Russian liberals already in the mid-90s. Had we abandoned NATO, or refused the Visograd states entry, we would be in a worse position now. Surely we would not have averted the rise of a Putin, which was driven by internal russian considerations.

Posted by superstitiousGalitizianer 2008-08-11 12:01|| 2008-08-11 12:01|| Front Page Top

#9 More reason we need to get off oil. Find a way to get off oil and we cut the legs out from almost all of our enemies.

Nuke power now, everything else will fall in line when we've got that.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-08-11 12:16|| 2008-08-11 12:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Our failure to find a nuclear alternative is comparable to our failure to rearm in the late 1930s. Now, as then, it could open us to blackmail and condemn us to appeasement.

Bingo.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-11 13:49|| 2008-08-11 13:49|| Front Page Top

#11 nuclear AND other alternatives, AND breakthroughs on the consumption side. If we're serious we will pursue all.

Posted by superstitiousGalitizianer 2008-08-11 13:52|| 2008-08-11 13:52|| Front Page Top

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