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2005-05-31 Europe
Blair faces clash over move to kill EU treaty
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Posted by Fred 2005-05-31 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6468 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The UK should vote, to kill it for good. No weasle room here, a vote must occur. Dead is dead.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-05-31 01:20||   2005-05-31 01:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Yup, I think a UK vote would be a suitable coup de grace. Hardly worth the expense and gnashing of teeth though.. C'est fin.
Posted by Howard UK 2005-05-31 05:07||   2005-05-31 05:07|| Front Page Top

#3 If the British referendum was expected in a few months' time rather than 'some time next year', that would be a good idea, but as things stand, continuing with plans for the UK referendum on this constitution is pointless. If the constitution's to be re-released for France, Holland and the others who vote 'no', it will now have to be re-drafted, and when will that be finished? I'd like to see Blair call a snap-referendum on the issue, but he certainly won't do that because he knows full well what would happen ;) .
Posted by Bulldog ">Bulldog  2005-05-31 06:11||   2005-05-31 06:11|| Front Page Top

#4 I thought the EU constitution had to ratified by all members. If the frogs said no, then it's already dead. The Dutch would just be putting a wooden stake through its heart.
Posted by Spot">Spot  2005-05-31 08:49||   2005-05-31 08:49|| Front Page Top

#5 The Europhiles are already speaking of redrafting... they'll NEVER give up until we have a glass dome built over the top and Europe looks like one of the pictures off the front of a Jehovahs Witness propaganda pamphlet.
Posted by Howard UK 2005-05-31 08:54||   2005-05-31 08:54|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Howard UK 2005-05-31 08:57||   2005-05-31 08:57|| Front Page Top

#7  "thought the EU constitution had to ratified by all members"

Yes, but that doesnt mean a no vote kills it. In theory they could just hold ANOTHER referendum in the country that voted no, till they get a yes vote. IIRC thats what happened when Denmark voted no on the Maastricht treaty. If the a SMALL country voted down the constitution, by a NARROW margin, thats probably what would happen. But this was France, and the margin was large, so it seems unlikely they will try that.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-05-31 10:08||   2005-05-31 10:08|| Front Page Top

#8 (Anyone else chuckling at the image of Aris sputtering and spewing with anger over what the French did to his beloved nation?)
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-05-31 10:27|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-05-31 10:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Now that you come to mention it, RC... [snigger]
Posted by Bulldog ">Bulldog  2005-05-31 10:38||   2005-05-31 10:38|| Front Page Top

#10 "Kill it! Kill it! Somebody get a stick!"
Posted by mojo">mojo  2005-05-31 11:14||   2005-05-31 11:14|| Front Page Top

#11 In order to kill The proposed Constitution (note: really a massive treaty disguised as a constitution), someone has to offer an alternative. Since all EU komissars and various country leaders have repeatedly stated that there is NO alternative, they won't kill it.

I wish there were a group of Europeans who would propose to copy the American Constitution and publish The Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers all over the EU. I would have done it, but I've left Europe for good.
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-05-31 12:34||   2005-05-31 12:34|| Front Page Top

#12 In order to kill The proposed Constitution (note: really a massive treaty disguised as a constitution), someone has to offer an alternative. Since all EU komissars and various country leaders have repeatedly stated that there is NO alternative, they won't kill it.

Isn't the alternative simply to, oh, go on as you are?
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-05-31 13:15|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-05-31 13:15|| Front Page Top

#13 I'm all for the committee working up another draft constitution for the countries to vote on. Such activity keeps them healthily occupied and out of trouble, which means the rest of the EU can get on with (hopefully) making things work.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-05-31 13:47||   2005-05-31 13:47|| Front Page Top

#14 Well...they (the French) made the A380 fly, there could still be some hope left.
Posted by Rafael 2005-05-31 23:24||   2005-05-31 23:24|| Front Page Top

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